Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
or
http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju

Janet US

On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>
> Janet US

MalWart is an evil evil corporation!

I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!

John Kuthe...

On 2016-07-09, Janet B > wrote:

> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home

Yet WW will still be able to get yer $$$$, not to mention sell you all
the junk necessary to ferget yer wallet.

nb

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> > Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
> >
> > http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> > or
> > http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
> >
> > Janet US
>
> MalWart is an evil evil corporation!
>
> I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!

That's because you give most of your money to your Chinese landlord,
funny man.

On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:53:09 AM UTC-10, Janet B wrote:
> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>
> Janet US

Everything is proceeding as we have planned.

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 09:53:04 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>
>Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>
>http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
>or
>http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>
>Janet US

I don't get it? I usually just whip out my credit card, stick it in
their card reader and leave. How can it be an improvement to flip
through my iphone apps, turn on the Walmart app, scan some image?

Please, somebody keep that person from getting in front of me who sets
her pocket book the size of a diaper bag on the counter, starts
rumbling through it searching for her 20th Century style check book,
finally pulls out the check book to write a check and tells the
Cashier there is no ink in her pen. Now the Cashier starts looking all
over the store to find a manager with a pen.

William

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 13:42:08 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 09:53:04 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>>
>>http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
>>or
>>http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>>
>>Janet US
>
>I don't get it? I usually just whip out my credit card, stick it in
>their card reader and leave. How can it be an improvement to flip
>through my iphone apps, turn on the Walmart app, scan some image?
>
>Please, somebody keep that person from getting in front of me who sets
>her pocket book the size of a diaper bag on the counter, starts
>rumbling through it searching for her 20th Century style check book,
>finally pulls out the check book to write a check and tells the
>Cashier there is no ink in her pen. Now the Cashier starts looking all
>over the store to find a manager with a pen.
>
>William
>
I'm all set to leave the store you stupid man. I've written my check
and paid my bill, but you've stopped to put your credit card in your
wallet and left your cart blocking the exit lane. Most women can push
their cart, put their card away and walk at the same time.
Janet US

On 7/9/2016 1:42 PM, William wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 09:53:04 -0600, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>>
>> Janet US
>
> I don't get it? I usually just whip out my credit card, stick it in
> their card reader and leave. How can it be an improvement to flip
> through my iphone apps, turn on the Walmart app, scan some image?

My wallet with driver's license is always with me when I leave home, not
always my phone. CC or cash will always be faster.
>


> Please, somebody keep that person from getting in front of me who sets
> her pocket book the size of a diaper bag on the counter, starts
> rumbling through it searching for her 20th Century style check book,
> finally pulls out the check book to write a check and tells the
> Cashier there is no ink in her pen. Now the Cashier starts looking all
> over the store to find a manager with a pen.
>
> William
>
>

Her twin sister shops here.

In article >,
says...
>
> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>
> Janet US

I'm looking forward to an app which encourages shoppers to leave
their smartphone at home.

Janet UK.

On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>
> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>
> Janet US
>
>
No Smart Phone here and I would not be interested even if
I had one.

On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 09:17:53 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>>
>> Janet US
>
>MalWart is an evil evil corporation!
>
>I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!

Really? I didn't know that. Ya learn something new everyday.

Sam Walton was ok, I think.

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 09:53:04 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:
>
> Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>

Sound like a combination of pay by phone and scanning items as they go
into the cart. Woohoo. A self checkout variation that will increase
the time they have customers in the stores, inside the aisles. How
many more employees can they eliminate now?

--

sf

On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>Sam Walton was ok, I think.

He was, he wanted and did, found a store to help small American
manufacturers. When his greedy kids inherited they sent everything
offshore

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I have no cell phone and have no desire to get one. Just like the
government (GMO label reading) and scanning as you go, plus
the assumption by nearly every entity that everyone has a computer,
I'm ag'in this too. Bah, humbug.

N.

On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:39:11 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> I have no cell phone and have no desire to get one. Just like the
> government (GMO label reading) and scanning as you go, plus
> the assumption by nearly every entity that everyone has a computer,
> I'm ag'in this too. Bah, humbug.
>

Don't own a cell phone? Then the app isn't for you. End of story.


--

sf

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
> > Sam Walton was ok, I think.
>
> He was, he wanted and did, found a store to help small American
> manufacturers. When his greedy kids inherited they sent everything
> offshore

Yes. When Sam ran it, they supported the military with free FPO/AP
shipping on orders over 25$. When Sam died, that changed to charing
overseas airmail rates even though FPO/AP stuff is sent to the nearest
miltary PO box and shipped for free from there by the military systems.

They also supported the elderly (my Mom got a job at age 70, working
the fabric department). Even part time, they had the option to get
insurance at a very decent rate and as a benny, they earned walmart
stock at a set amount per hour worked (it wasn't a lot but it was free
and over time, you could end up with a tidy nest egg, even working 20
hours a week).

Mom mentioned they had a voluntary 501K that didnt require you be full
time or anything like that to contribute to but as she was already 70,
it wasn't workable (had to start withdrawing almost as soon as she had
anything in it).


--

On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 06:04:13 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:39:11 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>> I have no cell phone and have no desire to get one. Just like the
>> government (GMO label reading) and scanning as you go, plus
>> the assumption by nearly every entity that everyone has a computer,
>> I'm ag'in this too. Bah, humbug.
>>
>
>Don't own a cell phone? Then the app isn't for you. End of story.

More condescension!

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On 7/10/2016 9:19 AM, cshenk wrote:

>
> Mom mentioned they had a voluntary 501K that didnt require you be full
> time or anything like that to contribute to but as she was already 70,
> it wasn't workable (had to start withdrawing almost as soon as she had
> anything in it).
>
>

Maybe. Misconception that you have to start withdrawing at age 70 1/2.
That only applies if you are no longer employed or are the owner of the
business depending on the plan.

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans...ributions-rmds

Terms of the plan govern
The plan’s terms may allow you to wait until the year you actually
retire to take your first RMD (unless you are a 5% owner).
Alternatively, a plan may require you to begin receiving distributions
by April 1 of the year after you reach age 70½, even if you have not
retired.

Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 7/10/2016 9:19 AM, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> > Mom mentioned they had a voluntary 501K that didnt require you be
> > full time or anything like that to contribute to but as she was
> > already 70, it wasn't workable (had to start withdrawing almost as
> > soon as she had anything in it).
> >
> >
>
> Maybe. Misconception that you have to start withdrawing at age 70
> 1/2. That only applies if you are no longer employed or are the owner
> of the business depending on the plan.
>
> https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans...ployee/retirem
> ent-topics-required-minimum-distributions-rmds
>
> Terms of the plan govern
> The plan’s terms may allow you to wait until the year you actually
> retire to take your first RMD (unless you are a 5% owner).
> Alternatively, a plan may require you to begin receiving
> distributions by April 1 of the year after you reach age 70½, even if
> you have not retired.

I don't know which they had then, only that it wasn't usable for her
needs. Probably have to start withdraw at 70 1/2 sort.

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On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:32:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> > > Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
> > >
> > > http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> > > or
> > > http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
> > >
> > > Janet US
> >
> > MalWart is an evil evil corporation!
> >
> > I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!
>
> That's because you give most of your money to your Chinese landlord,
> funny man.

One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:32:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>> >
>> > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
>> > > Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
>> > >
>> > > http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
>> > > or
>> > > http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
>> > >
>> > > Janet US
>> >
>> > MalWart is an evil evil corporation!
>> >
>> > I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!
>>
>> That's because you give most of your money to your Chinese landlord,
>> funny man.
>
>One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!

You're taking out China from the inside John? Like a double agent?
A true patriot!

On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 6:32:44 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:32:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> > > > Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
> > > >
> > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> > > > or
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
> > > >
> > > > Janet US
> > >
> > > MalWart is an evil evil corporation!
> > >
> > > I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!
> >
> > That's because you give most of your money to your Chinese landlord,
> > funny man.
>
> One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!
>
> John Kuthe...

That's what my honorable uncle Chan use to say. It is most good advice.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:32:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> > > > Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: You Can Leave Your Wallets at Home
> > > >
> > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...s-home-n605306
> > > > or
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/hw5a2ju
> > > >
> > > > Janet US
> > >
> > > MalWart is an evil evil corporation!
> > >
> > > I NEVER give them ANY of MY MONEY!!! Evah!!
> >
> > That's because you give most of your money to your Chinese landlord,
> > funny man.
>
> One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!

Can I quote you on that when I buy a Chinese made appliance tomorrow?

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:14:48 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >
> > One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!
>
> Can I quote you on that when I buy a Chinese made appliance tomorrow?

Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.

--

sf

sf wrote:
>
> Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
> looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
> it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
> clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
> I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
> high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.

And let's not forget who "ruined that country." Democrats!
Kennedy started it and Johnson took it way overboard.
Lucky YOU didn't have to worry about getting drafted back then
to fight an unpopular war, but I did (have to worry).

On 2016-07-12 10:38 AM, sf wrote:

> Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
> looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
> it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
> clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
> I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
> high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.

You got dragged into a conflict to back a corrupt regime. It all could
have been avoided if the US had truly honoured its commitment to
democracy by insisting on holding the plebiscite on reunification that
had been part of the deal to end the hostilities in their civil war. The
Vietnamese wanted their country back. The French had colonized it and
lost it to the Japanese. The Vietnamese helped to defeat the Japanese
only to have their land handed back to the French. The Americans did not
want the communists to gain anymore ground in the region, and the
communists had a lot of support because they were the only group that
was really fighting for independence.

It's a shame that things worked out the way they did. I am sure the US
would have helped them to develop. They chose instead to fight tooth and
nail and allow the destruction to go on.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:38:52 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:14:48 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> >
>> > One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!
>>
>> Can I quote you on that when I buy a Chinese made appliance tomorrow?
>
>Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
>looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
>it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
>clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
>I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
>high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.

Patronising again, they have long been back on their feet without your
assistance. They even managed to put care in place for babies born
to mums who had been sprayed with agent orange.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:38:52 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:14:48 +1000, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!
> >>
> >> Can I quote you on that when I buy a Chinese made appliance tomorrow?
> >
> >Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
> >looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
> >it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
> >clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
> >I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
> >high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.
>
> Patronising again, they have long been back on their feet without your
> assistance. They even managed to put care in place for babies born
> to mums who had been sprayed with agent orange.

Nevertheless: next time you're having a baby, make sure you're in
Canada, not in Vietnam.

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 10:59:06 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
> >
> > Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
> > looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
> > it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
> > clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
> > I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
> > high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.
>
> And let's not forget who "ruined that country." Democrats!
> Kennedy started it and Johnson took it way overboard.
> Lucky YOU didn't have to worry about getting drafted back then
> to fight an unpopular war, but I did (have to worry).

You certainly can blame Kennedy and Johnson for escalating
the U.S. presence in Vietnam, but we were there starting
in 1950. I suppose you can still blame the Democrats (Truman)
for that, but Eisenhower didn't pull us out, either. Perhaps
he didn't know much about conducting a war...

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 02:06:57 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:38:52 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:14:48 +1000, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article >,
>> >> says...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > One must sometimes dance with the devil before defeating him!!
>> >>
>> >> Can I quote you on that when I buy a Chinese made appliance tomorrow?
>> >
>> >Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
>> >looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
>> >it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
>> >clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
>> >I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
>> >high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.
>>
>> Patronising again, they have long been back on their feet without your
>> assistance. They even managed to put care in place for babies born
>> to mums who had been sprayed with agent orange.
>
>Nevertheless: next time you're having a baby, make sure you're in
>Canada, not in Vietnam.

Definitely - tragedy.

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:42:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-12 10:38 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > Things seem to be shifting to Viet Nam, at least where I live. I was
> > looking at a desk in the Crate & Barrel catalog yesterday and noticed
> > it said made in Viet Nam, then hubby came home with some cute baby
> > clothes that were labeled Viet Nam, come to think of it - the last top
> > I bought was manufactured there too. We ruined that country, so it's
> > high time we did something to help them get back on their feet.
>
> You got dragged into a conflict to back a corrupt regime. It all could
> have been avoided if the US had truly honoured its commitment to
> democracy by insisting on holding the plebiscite on reunification that
> had been part of the deal to end the hostilities in their civil war. The
> Vietnamese wanted their country back. The French had colonized it and
> lost it to the Japanese. The Vietnamese helped to defeat the Japanese
> only to have their land handed back to the French. The Americans did not
> want the communists to gain anymore ground in the region, and the
> communists had a lot of support because they were the only group that
> was really fighting for independence.
>
> It's a shame that things worked out the way they did. I am sure the US
> would have helped them to develop. They chose instead to fight tooth and
> nail and allow the destruction to go on.

The Vietnamese aren't mulling over the past. They think of the now and future. It's a heck of a happening place. The American Vietnam vets that have gone there seem to come back very happy. It will be a major tourist destination. The commies running the country must be doing something right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmlq0dOaDM

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

> The Vietnamese aren't mulling over the past. They think of the now and
> future. It's a heck of a happening place. The American Vietnam vets that
> have gone there seem to come back very happy. It will be a major tourist
> destination. The commies running the country must be doing something
> right.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmlq0dOaDM

Wonderful. Spectacular. Amazing, Brilliant ))


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On 7/12/2016 9:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> The Vietnamese aren't mulling over the past. They think of the now and
>> future. It's a heck of a happening place. The American Vietnam vets
>> that have gone there seem to come back very happy. It will be a major
>> tourist destination. The commies running the country must be doing
>> something right.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmlq0dOaDM
>
> Wonderful. Spectacular. Amazing, Brilliant ))
>
>

Vietnam reminds me of Ireland. You'd never guess they could be economic
powerhouses - but they are.

In article >, says...
>
> On 7/12/2016 9:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "dsi1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >> The Vietnamese aren't mulling over the past. They think of the now and
> >> future. It's a heck of a happening place. The American Vietnam vets
> >> that have gone there seem to come back very happy. It will be a major
> >> tourist destination. The commies running the country must be doing
> >> something right.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmlq0dOaDM
> >
> > Wonderful. Spectacular. Amazing, Brilliant ))
> >
> Vietnam reminds me of Ireland. You'd never guess they could be
economic
> powerhouses - but they are.

Didn't the EU have to save Ireland from bankruptcy?

On 7/12/2016 10:37 AM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 7/12/2016 9:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> The Vietnamese aren't mulling over the past. They think of the now and
>>>> future. It's a heck of a happening place. The American Vietnam vets
>>>> that have gone there seem to come back very happy. It will be a major
>>>> tourist destination. The commies running the country must be doing
>>>> something right.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmlq0dOaDM
>>>
>>> Wonderful. Spectacular. Amazing, Brilliant ))
>>>
>> Vietnam reminds me of Ireland. You'd never guess they could be
> economic
>> powerhouses - but they are.
>
> Didn't the EU have to save Ireland from bankruptcy?
>

You probably know more about that than I. It happens to the best of US.