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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> Cheddar with fehta is pure TIAD... what a disgusting combo.


Not sure but I might agree with you on this, Sheldon.
I love both cheeses but have never combined them.
The combination *does* sound a bit off to me.
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On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 10/29/2016 8:14 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 2:41:52 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
> >> intolerant and hurtful.

> >
> > Oh, is this now a "safe space"? **** that.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

> Awwww, we might hurt someone's widdle feelings! Sorry, this isn't grade
> school. Bruce really should stop trying to play net-cop.


Actually, I believe Bruce was being sarcastic, and responded in kind.

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On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 11:22:17 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > Cheddar with fehta is pure TIAD... what a disgusting combo.

>
> Not sure but I might agree with you on this, Sheldon.
> I love both cheeses but have never combined them.
> The combination *does* sound a bit off to me.


A very mild U.S. cheddar has so little taste that practically
anything would go with it. It's the tofu of cheeses.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 11:22:17 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >
> > > Cheddar with fehta is pure TIAD... what a disgusting combo.

> >
> > Not sure but I might agree with you on this, Sheldon.
> > I love both cheeses but have never combined them.
> > The combination *does* sound a bit off to me.

>
> A very mild U.S. cheddar has so little taste that practically
> anything would go with it. It's the tofu of cheeses.


Agree. Mild cheddar cheese tastes just like American Cheese Product, the
somewhat fake cheese.
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On 2016-10-29, Dave Smith > wrote:

> That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
> feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.


Are you sure that's not an Olive Garden side dish?

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On 2016-10-29, Jeßus > wrote:

> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.


Shotgun round? Triple ought buck?

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On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 4:38:39 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-10-29 9:34 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je�us wrote:

>
> >>>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil.
> >>>> Very
> >>>> intolerant and hurtful.
> >>

> > (piggybacking here)
> >
> > Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
> > personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
> > sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
> > or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.
> >
> > Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands

>
> Don't worry about me. I am not as thin skinned as some around here who
> insist on their right to be offended. I like olive oil and I got into
> using it when I learned it was the way they did their grown up grilled
> cheese at the corner bakery.


I can't say if this is a grown-up cheese sandwich but I'd eat one of these too. One quarter of a sandwich would be enough for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYq31xLj-DY
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On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 12:21:38 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
> A few days ago I tried an experiment - a quick easy grilled cheese
> sandwich. Instead of the normal method I toasted two slices of white bread,
> Made a sandwich with cheese, in this case sharp cheddar, and put it in the
> microwave for - I forget - 30 seconds? Maybe a minute?
>
> Terrible results - cheese tasted rubbery and awful. Who'd a thought it?
>
> Back to regularly grilled cheese sandwiches in the future.
>


First of all, you sound as though you are a Cherman. Second of all and this is as equally as important as my first statement: What kind of cheese did you use?
I've miked cheese sandwiches before and they turn out OK. What's missing is the nice buttery crust you get from doing them in the pan. It's not much work really. btw, change your nationality from Cherman to like some guy or gal from Lichtenstein or some place. Latvia is probably a better choice.



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> when something closes the door from the inside.


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On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 1:00:48 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> In article > , Bruce
> says...
> >
> > In article >, Cheri says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > In article >, Cheri says...
> > > >>
> > > >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > > >> ...
> > > >> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > >> >>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> > > >> >>>> olive oil.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> > > >> >>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
> > > >> > tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
> > > >> > I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like olive
> > > >> > oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, each to their own.
> > >
> > > That's what "my taste" means...duh.

> >
> > Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
> > intolerant and hurtful.

>
> Oh and non-inclusive.


Get a spine you wimp...talk about "intolerant and hurtful"...what about some of your postings?
Sometimes you come across as an elitist twit.
Smarten up.
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 11:21:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Cheddar with fehta is pure TIAD... what a disgusting combo.

>
>Not sure but I might agree with you on this, Sheldon.
>I love both cheeses but have never combined them.
>The combination *does* sound a bit off to me.


I like many cheezes but cheddar and feta are my least favorites. I
can't remember when I last tasted fehta but I remember not liking its
texture... I know it will seem weird but I like cubes of cheddar on a
toothpic dipped in Chinese black bean sauce. I also like Ritz
crackers spread with Chinese duck sauce and topped with shredded mozz.


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In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 2:41:52 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, Cheri says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > In article >, Cheri says...
> > > >>
> > > >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > > >> ...
> > > >> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > >> >>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> >>>> On 2016-10-28 3:53 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> Sf, if the butter is too hard and you are making a cheese sandwich
> > > >> >>>>> in
> > > >> >>>>> a pan
> > > >> >>>>> or grill on the stove, just put the butter in first to melt and
> > > >> >>>>> then
> > > >> >>>>> plop the bread
> > > >> >>>>> into it...do the same thing when you grill the other side.
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> > > >> >>>> olive oil.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> > > >> >>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
> > > >> > tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
> > > >> > I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like olive
> > > >> > oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, each to their own.
> > >
> > > That's what "my taste" means...duh.

> >
> > Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
> > intolerant and hurtful.

>
> Oh, is this now a "safe space"? **** that.


lol I don't care either. I was trying to talk from Cheri's perspective.
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In article >, Roy
says...
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 1:00:48 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > In article > , Bruce
> > says...
> > >
> > > In article >, Cheri says...
> > > >
> > > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > In article >, Cheri says...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, each to their own.
> > > >
> > > > That's what "my taste" means...duh.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
> > > intolerant and hurtful.

> >
> > Oh and non-inclusive.

>
> Get a spine you wimp...talk about "intolerant and hurtful"...what about some of your postings?
> Sometimes you come across as an elitist twit.
> Smarten up.
> =====


Do you realize how non-inclusive you sound?
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In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 13:21:22 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >>
> >> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> > On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


> >> >> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a
> >> >> decent
> >> >> olive oil.
> >> >>
> >> > You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> >> > NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.

> >
> >For one thing, it's healthier.

>
> Um, it's Cheese, like pure cholesterol!


Yes, cheese is. And butter is too. That could be a reason to use olive
oil.

> When properly cooked the bread doesn't soak up much butter... I use no
> butter in the pan, only a thin coat on the bread... if truly concerned
> serve grilled cheese on a paper towel. However if someone needs to
> limit their cholesterol for health reasons they shouldn't be eating
> cheese at all.


Or in moderation, or occasionally, or light cheese or don't make it
worse by also using butter or pig out because you like the flavour.
Choices.
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In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:47:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 2016-10-28 10:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >>
> >>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> >>>>>> olive oil.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> >>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> >>>
> >>> For one thing, it's healhier.
> >>>
> >>That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
> >>feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.

> >
> >Communists, the both of you.

>
> Pretend commies, even a Greek Style Affectionado wouldn't eat a fehta
> grilled cheese... fehta doesn't melt. I can't believe those two
> prevaricators, one lies, the other swears to it.


I notice that you're worked up. I don't know over what.
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In article >, jmcquown says...
>
> On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je?us wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In article > , Bruce
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> In article >, Cheri says...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> >>>>>>>>>> olive oil.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> >>>>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
> >>>>>>> tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
> >>>>>>> I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like olive
> >>>>>>> oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey, each to their own.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's what "my taste" means...duh.
> >>>
> >>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
> >>> intolerant and hurtful.

> >

> (piggybacking here)
>
> Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
> personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
> sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
> or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.


I was trying to take Cheri's approach. "Each to their own", "Can't have
an opinion", "If you like to eat dog turds, who are we to say that's
disgusting", "Don't hurt me". Y'all took it a bit too seriously.

> Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands


You could say that the rich, greasy saturated fat factor's already
provided by the cheese and that you can therefore use a little bit of
olive oil instead of butter. Or not.


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In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-10-29 2:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, Jeßus says...
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2016-10-28 10:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >>>
> >>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> >>>>>>> olive oil.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> >>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> >>>>
> >>>> For one thing, it's healhier.
> >>>>
> >>> That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
> >>> feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.
> >>
> >> Communists, the both of you.

> >
> > lol. But cheddar, feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes, that's almost a
> > pizza. Who puts butter on a pizza?
> >

>
> What the hell... cut it up and serve it in a cocktail glass and call it
> a Martini.


Quoi?
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article > , Bruce
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a
>>>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>>> olive oil.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is
>>>>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
>>>>>>>> tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like
>>>>>>>> olive
>>>>>>>> oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, each to their own.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what "my taste" means...duh.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil.
>>>> Very
>>>> intolerant and hurtful.

>>

> (piggybacking here)
>
> Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
> personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
> sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
> or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.
>
> Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands


Bruce is trying to be sarcastic, witty, and wonderful, but failing miserably
everyday. Always good for a chuckle though. LOL

Cheri

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 10/29/2016 8:14 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 2:41:52 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil.
>> >> Very
>> >> intolerant and hurtful.
>> >
>> > Oh, is this now a "safe space"? **** that.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >

>> Awwww, we might hurt someone's widdle feelings! Sorry, this isn't grade
>> school. Bruce really should stop trying to play net-cop.

>
> Actually, I believe Bruce was being sarcastic, and responded in kind.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Yep.

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On 10/29/2016 1:33 PM, Brooce wrote:
> In article >, jmcquown says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article > , Bruce
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
>>>>>>>>>>>> olive oil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
>>>>>>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
>>>>>>>>> tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like olive
>>>>>>>>> oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, each to their own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what "my taste" means...duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
>>>>> intolerant and hurtful.
>>>

>> (piggybacking here)
>>
>> Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
>> personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
>> sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
>> or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.

>
> I was trying to take Cheri's approach. "Each to their own", "Can't have
> an opinion", "If you like to eat dog turds, who are we to say that's
> disgusting", "Don't hurt me". Y'all took it a bit too seriously.
>
>> Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands

>
> You could say that the rich, greasy saturated fat factor's already
> provided by the cheese and that you can therefore use a little bit of
> olive oil instead of butter. Or not.
>

I could call it a troll MORPHING to jump out of killfiles. Oh wait, it is.

Jill
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 10/29/2016 1:33 PM, Brooce wrote:
>> In article >, jmcquown says...
>>>
>>> On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article > , Bruce
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> olive oil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is
>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked
>>>>>>>>>> spud
>>>>>>>>>> tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like
>>>>>>>>>> olive
>>>>>>>>>> oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, each to their own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what "my taste" means...duh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil.
>>>>>> Very
>>>>>> intolerant and hurtful.
>>>>
>>> (piggybacking here)
>>>
>>> Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
>>> personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
>>> sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
>>> or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.

>>
>> I was trying to take Cheri's approach. "Each to their own", "Can't have
>> an opinion", "If you like to eat dog turds, who are we to say that's
>> disgusting", "Don't hurt me". Y'all took it a bit too seriously.
>>
>>> Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands

>>
>> You could say that the rich, greasy saturated fat factor's already
>> provided by the cheese and that you can therefore use a little bit of
>> olive oil instead of butter. Or not.
>>

> I could call it a troll MORPHING to jump out of killfiles. Oh wait, it
> is.
>
> Jill


He is famous for that, all the way back to John, and I don't really know
where he gets "Cheri's approach", since many people say that people have
individual tastes, which is very true, but I imagine the vegan dog turd
dinners have corrupted his brain by now.

Cheri



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>
> On 10/29/2016 1:33 PM, Brooce wrote:
> > In article >, jmcquown says...
> >>
> >> On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je?us wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In article > , Bruce
> >>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >>>>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> >>>>>>>>>>>> olive oil.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> >>>>>>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
> >>>>>>>>> tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
> >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like olive
> >>>>>>>>> oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey, each to their own.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's what "my taste" means...duh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
> >>>>> intolerant and hurtful.
> >>>
> >> (piggybacking here)
> >>
> >> Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
> >> personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
> >> sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
> >> or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.

> >
> > I was trying to take Cheri's approach. "Each to their own", "Can't have
> > an opinion", "If you like to eat dog turds, who are we to say that's
> > disgusting", "Don't hurt me". Y'all took it a bit too seriously.
> >
> >> Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands

> >
> > You could say that the rich, greasy saturated fat factor's already
> > provided by the cheese and that you can therefore use a little bit of
> > olive oil instead of butter. Or not.
> >

> I could call it a troll MORPHING to jump out of killfiles. Oh wait, it is.


Is there a term for endless bitching about someone you've killfiled?
Coward morphing perhaps?
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In article >, Cheri says...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 10/29/2016 1:33 PM, Brooce wrote:
> >> In article >, jmcquown says...
> >>>
> >>> On 10/29/2016 4:36 AM, Je?us wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article > , Bruce
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>> In article >, Cheri says...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-28 6:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2016 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> decent
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> olive oil.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
> >>>>>>>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked
> >>>>>>>>>> spud
> >>>>>>>>>> tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
> >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like
> >>>>>>>>>> olive
> >>>>>>>>>> oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hey, each to their own.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's what "my taste" means...duh.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil.
> >>>>>> Very
> >>>>>> intolerant and hurtful.
> >>>>
> >>> (piggybacking here)
> >>>
> >>> Intolerant and hurtful? Hardly. I'm amazed how mere expressions of
> >>> personal likes and dislikes when it comes to making a grilled cheese
> >>> sandwich can translate into "intolerant". I doubt Dave took it that way
> >>> or felt he was being denigrated but if he did, I apologize.
> >>
> >> I was trying to take Cheri's approach. "Each to their own", "Can't have
> >> an opinion", "If you like to eat dog turds, who are we to say that's
> >> disgusting", "Don't hurt me". Y'all took it a bit too seriously.
> >>
> >>> Jill <---still wouldn't use olive oil when making grilled cheese sands
> >>
> >> You could say that the rich, greasy saturated fat factor's already
> >> provided by the cheese and that you can therefore use a little bit of
> >> olive oil instead of butter. Or not.
> >>

> > I could call it a troll MORPHING to jump out of killfiles. Oh wait, it
> > is.
> >
> > Jill

>
> He is famous for that, all the way back to John, and I don't really know
> where he gets "Cheri's approach", since many people say that people have
> individual tastes, which is very true, but I imagine the vegan dog turd
> dinners have corrupted his brain by now.


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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:30:28 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:00:42 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article > , Bruce
>> >says...
>> >>
>> >> In article >, Cheri says...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> > > In article >, Cheri says...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> >> > >> ...
>> >> > >> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:07:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >>I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the
>> >> > >> >>purpose.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Nonsense, nothing is better than buddah... I had a giant baked spud
>> >> > >> > tonight, never occured to use anything but real buddah.
>> >> > >> > I wouldn't eat fried eggs unless fried in real buddah. I like olive
>> >> > >> > oil for salads but never for frying eggs or grilled cheese.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I agree, nothing like butter for those things and my taste.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hey, each to their own.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's what "my taste" means...duh.
>> >>
>> >> Nevertheless, it sounded dismissive of people who prefer olive oil. Very
>> >> intolerant and hurtful.

>>
>> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.

>
>As to what the benefits are?


No benefits for olive oil lovers!
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:53:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.

>
>You got me. WTH is OOO? ;-D


Olive Oil Oppression, what else

>And on a serious note:
> Many years ago someone in another food group mentioned
> using EVOO to make scrambled eggs. That's just so wrong, imo.


I tend to agree.

>My grilled cheese sandwiches are plain and simple:
> - Buttered (on the outside)


On the outside of the sandwich?

>fresh white bread
> - one slice American Cheese Product (same taste as mild cheddar)
> - one thin slice of tomato plus some s&p


I do open grilled 'sandwiches':
Wholemeal bread
BUTTER
very finely sliced onion
thin slice of tomato
Vintage cheese (usually), which is a well aged cheddar
S&P




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On 29 Oct 2016 16:20:14 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-10-29, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.

>
>Shotgun round? Triple ought buck?


Hmm, could a solution to vegans, I suppose.

OOO = olive oil oppression ("dismissive of people who prefer olive
oil. Very intolerant and hurtful") There's a whole demographic out
there suffering from oil-based repression in our society. This must be
stamped out, post haste.


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>Do you realize how non-inclusive you sound?


Do you realise (note non-American spelling that George W. Bush once
said the Republicans are the 'party of idealism and inclusion'? Never
knew you were a Republican!
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 09:16:19 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:47:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2016-10-28 10:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
>>>
>>>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
>>>>>>> olive oil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
>>>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
>>>>
>>>> For one thing, it's healhier.
>>>>
>>>That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
>>>feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.

>>
>>Communists, the both of you.

>
>Pretend commies, even a Greek Style Affectionado wouldn't eat a fehta
>grilled cheese... fehta doesn't melt.


Feta can be okay on things like that, IMO. Note I said *can be*. I've
had some very nice grilled sandwiches and pizzas with feta, OTOH I've
had some failures too. Needs to be done right... but don't ask what
that might be.

>I can't believe those two
>prevaricators, one lies, the other swears to it.
>A grown up grilled cheese would be baked brie with kalamata olives in
>warm pita.


That sounds very nice too, even though I'm not a huge pita bread fan.
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:28:09 +1100, Bruce >
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>In article >, Brooklyn1
>says...
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:47:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 2016-10-28 10:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
>> >>
>> >>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
>> >>>>>> olive oil.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
>> >>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
>> >>>
>> >>> For one thing, it's healhier.
>> >>>
>> >>That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
>> >>feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.
>> >
>> >Communists, the both of you.

>>
>> Pretend commies, even a Greek Style Affectionado wouldn't eat a fehta
>> grilled cheese... fehta doesn't melt. I can't believe those two
>> prevaricators, one lies, the other swears to it.

>
>I notice that you're worked up. I don't know over what.


DS1 syndrome?
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 08:52:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 11:22:17 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> > Cheddar with fehta is pure TIAD... what a disgusting combo.

>>
>> Not sure but I might agree with you on this, Sheldon.
>> I love both cheeses but have never combined them.
>> The combination *does* sound a bit off to me.

>
>A very mild U.S. cheddar has so little taste that practically
>anything would go with it. It's the tofu of cheeses.


Might as well use mozzarella in it's place? I don't much like plain
old cheddar, well aged sharp cheddar is another matter.
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In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:28:09 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Brooklyn1
> >says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:47:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 2016-10-28 10:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
> >> >>>>>> olive oil.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
> >> >>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For one thing, it's healhier.
> >> >>>
> >> >>That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
> >> >>feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.
> >> >
> >> >Communists, the both of you.
> >>
> >> Pretend commies, even a Greek Style Affectionado wouldn't eat a fehta
> >> grilled cheese... fehta doesn't melt. I can't believe those two
> >> prevaricators, one lies, the other swears to it.

> >
> >I notice that you're worked up. I don't know over what.

>
> DS1 syndrome?


Maybe, I don't get it at all. Who lies and about what?

I also had to Webster 'prevaricator': someone who avoids telling the
truth by not directly answering a question.


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On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 07:36:15 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:28:09 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, Brooklyn1
>> >says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:47:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On 2016-10-28 10:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>> I stopped using butter for grilled cheese. I prefer to use a decent
>> >> >>>>>> olive oil.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>> You might have some reason for doing that but olive oil is definitely
>> >> >>>>> NOT what I'm looking for when I make a grilled cheese sandwich.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I do have a reason. It is better than butter for the purpose.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> For one thing, it's healhier.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>That too. Sometimes I make a grownup grille cheese.... with cheddar,
>> >> >>feta, onion and sun dried tomatoes. It is much better with olive oil.
>> >> >
>> >> >Communists, the both of you.
>> >>
>> >> Pretend commies, even a Greek Style Affectionado wouldn't eat a fehta
>> >> grilled cheese... fehta doesn't melt. I can't believe those two
>> >> prevaricators, one lies, the other swears to it.
>> >
>> >I notice that you're worked up. I don't know over what.

>>
>> DS1 syndrome?

>
>Maybe, I don't get it at all. Who lies and about what?
>
>I also had to Webster 'prevaricator': someone who avoids telling the
>truth by not directly answering a question.


Webster should amend it to include anyone wearing a suit.
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On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 4:14:56 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:53:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >"Jeßus" wrote:
> >>
> >> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.

> >
> >You got me. WTH is OOO? ;-D

>
> Olive Oil Oppression, what else
>
> >And on a serious note:
> > Many years ago someone in another food group mentioned
> > using EVOO to make scrambled eggs. That's just so wrong, imo.

>
> I tend to agree.
>
> >My grilled cheese sandwiches are plain and simple:
> > - Buttered (on the outside)

>
> On the outside of the sandwich?


The bread is spread with butter, and then the sandwich is cooked
in a frying pan until the outside is crispy, golden-brown, and
delicious. It would more properly be called a "griddled cheese
sandwich", but the current name has stuck.

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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 4:14:56 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:53:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >"Jeßus" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.
>> >
>> >You got me. WTH is OOO? ;-D

>>
>> Olive Oil Oppression, what else
>>
>> >And on a serious note:
>> > Many years ago someone in another food group mentioned
>> > using EVOO to make scrambled eggs. That's just so wrong, imo.

>>
>> I tend to agree.
>>
>> >My grilled cheese sandwiches are plain and simple:
>> > - Buttered (on the outside)

>>
>> On the outside of the sandwich?

>
>The bread is spread with butter, and then the sandwich is cooked
>in a frying pan until the outside is crispy, golden-brown, and
>delicious. It would more properly be called a "griddled cheese
>sandwich", but the current name has stuck.


Oh yep, thanks, I understand now. I've done that myself.
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"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...

> I also had to Webster 'prevaricator': someone who avoids telling the
> truth by not directly answering a question.


Or maybe thinking the question is none of your business doesn't make one a
liar.

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On 2016-10-29 4:14 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:53:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>
>>> OOO is still an unrecognised issue in modern society.

>>
>> You got me. WTH is OOO? ;-D

>
> Olive Oil Oppression, what else
>
>> And on a serious note:
>> Many years ago someone in another food group mentioned
>> using EVOO to make scrambled eggs. That's just so wrong, imo.

>
> I tend to agree.
>
>> My grilled cheese sandwiches are plain and simple:
>> - Buttered (on the outside)

>
> On the outside of the sandwich?
>
>> fresh white bread
>> - one slice American Cheese Product (same taste as mild cheddar)
>> - one thin slice of tomato plus some s&p

>
> I do open grilled 'sandwiches':
> Wholemeal bread
> BUTTER
> very finely sliced onion
> thin slice of tomato
> Vintage cheese (usually), which is a well aged cheddar
> S&P



Open faced? In my world, that is a variation of a Cheese Dream, though
they were usually cheddar and bacon. A variation would be Cheddar and
leftover asparagus.

Lunch today was more like your version, except two slices of whole
grain. I had slices of a 3 year old cheddar, thinly sliced onion and
sliced tomato. I have to say I was really disappointed with the tomato
because it was quite bland.

FWIW.... I did it with butter today. I can't say that it was better
than olive oil. However, my more frequent version of a grilled cheese
is the one with a mixture of Cheddar and Feta with sun dried tomato, and
the olive oil enhances that one.






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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:45:11 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2016-10-29 4:14 PM, Je?us wrote:

<snip>
>> I do open grilled 'sandwiches':
>> Wholemeal bread
>> BUTTER
>> very finely sliced onion
>> thin slice of tomato
>> Vintage cheese (usually), which is a well aged cheddar
>> S&P

>
>
>Open faced? In my world, that is a variation of a Cheese Dream, though
>they were usually cheddar and bacon. A variation would be Cheddar and
>leftover asparagus.


I love cheese and aspargus on toast... I'm almost tempted to bake a
loaf of bread now but I've had my bread quota for the week.

>Lunch today was more like your version, except two slices of whole
>grain. I had slices of a 3 year old cheddar, thinly sliced onion and
>sliced tomato. I have to say I was really disappointed with the tomato
>because it was quite bland.


I hate that.

>FWIW.... I did it with butter today. I can't say that it was better
>than olive oil. However, my more frequent version of a grilled cheese
>is the one with a mixture of Cheddar and Feta with sun dried tomato, and
>the olive oil enhances that one.


I can see how olive oil would be great with that combo.
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:53:50 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
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> Sf, if the butter is too hard and you are making a cheese sandwich in a pan
> or grill on the stove, just put the butter in first to melt and then plop the bread
> into it...do the same thing when you grill the other side.
>

After Heaven only knows how many years, hubby has finally thrown in
the towel and is leaving my butter on the counter where I put it! I
still think that parmesan crust sounds delicious... but I'd rather do
it with butter as the undercoat, instead of mayonnaise.


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