butter and loss of power
 

Recently my power was off for 5 days due to a really severe flood. I had butter in the freezer and it seems to be just fine. I have heard of people keeping butter out of the fridge for weeks. It has no rancid smell and tastes fine, is it safe to eat?

butter and loss of power
 

On 7/15/2016 1:55 PM, wrote:
> Recently my power was off for 5 days due to a really severe flood. I had butter in the freezer and it seems to be just fine. I have heard of people keeping butter out of the fridge for weeks. It has no rancid smell and tastes fine, is it safe to eat?
>
Of course it is! How do you think people kept butter before the days of
refrigeration and ice boxes?

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>Recently my power was off for 5 days due to a really severe flood. I had butter in the freezer and it seems to be just fine. I have heard of people keeping butter out of the fridge for weeks. It has no rancid smell and tastes fine, is it safe to eat?

It'll be fine. My butter never sees the fridge once I start using it.
Done this for at least a decade without any issues.

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I've read that salted butter keeps much better.

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> wrote in message
...
> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.

I read that salt is used to cover what could be a rancid taste. Don't know
if this is true or not. Don't think my grandma ever added salt to hers.

I do remember attempting to eat a pat of butter in a restaurant in Wichita.
In those days, the pats came on a piece of paper with waxed paper over the
top. The butter tasted terrible. For this reason, I went for many years
thinking that I hated butter unless my grandma made it. I realize now that
the butter was likely rancid. The restaurant appeared to be a fancy one, but
maybe not. It was somewhere downtown and a place I'd never been before.

I also remember arguing with my mom when she insisted that I put the oil and
vinegar on my salad. She and I had both ordered "dry" salads and the
waitress wouldn't have this. I now know it is much easier just to order a
lemon wedge. Nobody ever questions that but some wait staff have issues if
you want no dressing.

So... I was unhappy. Roll that I wouldn't eat because of the bad butter.
Salad that I wouldn't eat because the roll and vinegar ruined it. But in
taking that bite of salad, I swallowed a loose tooth. From there it was all
downhill.

My mom freaked and dragged me to the restaurant's entrance where the pay
phone was so she could call someone. Dr. or dentist. Can't remember who.
That was the highlight of the meal. I stood there watching people coming in
and out through the fancy looking revolving door while my mom stood there
freaking, only to learn that I'd pass the tooth my stool.

I don't remember any more of the meal. Maybe they just took me home and I
ate no more. Knowing how freaked out my mom was, she likely thought it
wouldn't be safe for me to eat or something. Not sure. Meal was memorable
though.

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:00:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.
>
>I read that salt is used to cover what could be a rancid taste. Don't know
>if this is true or not. Don't think my grandma ever added salt to hers.
>
>I do remember attempting to eat a pat of butter in a restaurant in Wichita.
>In those days, the pats came on a piece of paper with waxed paper over the
>top. The butter tasted terrible. For this reason, I went for many years
>thinking that I hated butter unless my grandma made it. I realize now that
>the butter was likely rancid. The restaurant appeared to be a fancy one, but
>maybe not. It was somewhere downtown and a place I'd never been before.
>
>I also remember arguing with my mom when she insisted that I put the oil and
>vinegar on my salad. She and I had both ordered "dry" salads and the
>waitress wouldn't have this. I now know it is much easier just to order a
>lemon wedge. Nobody ever questions that but some wait staff have issues if
>you want no dressing.
>
>So... I was unhappy. Roll that I wouldn't eat because of the bad butter.
>Salad that I wouldn't eat because the roll and vinegar ruined it. But in
>taking that bite of salad, I swallowed a loose tooth. From there it was all
>downhill.
>
>My mom freaked and dragged me to the restaurant's entrance where the pay
>phone was so she could call someone. Dr. or dentist. Can't remember who.
>That was the highlight of the meal. I stood there watching people coming in
>and out through the fancy looking revolving door while my mom stood there
>freaking, only to learn that I'd pass the tooth my stool.
>
>I don't remember any more of the meal. Maybe they just took me home and I
>ate no more. Knowing how freaked out my mom was, she likely thought it
>wouldn't be safe for me to eat or something. Not sure. Meal was memorable
>though.

Have you ever considered a career in being a weight loss councilor?
I've never - ever - come across anyone who can take all the joy out
food like you can.

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:00:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.
>>
>>I read that salt is used to cover what could be a rancid taste. Don't know
>>if this is true or not. Don't think my grandma ever added salt to hers.
>>
>>I do remember attempting to eat a pat of butter in a restaurant in
>>Wichita.
>>In those days, the pats came on a piece of paper with waxed paper over the
>>top. The butter tasted terrible. For this reason, I went for many years
>>thinking that I hated butter unless my grandma made it. I realize now that
>>the butter was likely rancid. The restaurant appeared to be a fancy one,
>>but
>>maybe not. It was somewhere downtown and a place I'd never been before.
>>
>>I also remember arguing with my mom when she insisted that I put the oil
>>and
>>vinegar on my salad. She and I had both ordered "dry" salads and the
>>waitress wouldn't have this. I now know it is much easier just to order a
>>lemon wedge. Nobody ever questions that but some wait staff have issues if
>>you want no dressing.
>>
>>So... I was unhappy. Roll that I wouldn't eat because of the bad butter.
>>Salad that I wouldn't eat because the roll and vinegar ruined it. But in
>>taking that bite of salad, I swallowed a loose tooth. From there it was
>>all
>>downhill.
>>
>>My mom freaked and dragged me to the restaurant's entrance where the pay
>>phone was so she could call someone. Dr. or dentist. Can't remember who.
>>That was the highlight of the meal. I stood there watching people coming
>>in
>>and out through the fancy looking revolving door while my mom stood there
>>freaking, only to learn that I'd pass the tooth my stool.
>>
>>I don't remember any more of the meal. Maybe they just took me home and I
>>ate no more. Knowing how freaked out my mom was, she likely thought it
>>wouldn't be safe for me to eat or something. Not sure. Meal was memorable
>>though.
>
> Have you ever considered a career in being a weight loss councilor?
> I've never - ever - come across anyone who can take all the joy out
> food like you can.

Heh.

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:26:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:00:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.
>>>
>>>I read that salt is used to cover what could be a rancid taste. Don't know
>>>if this is true or not. Don't think my grandma ever added salt to hers.
>>>
>>>I do remember attempting to eat a pat of butter in a restaurant in
>>>Wichita.
>>>In those days, the pats came on a piece of paper with waxed paper over the
>>>top. The butter tasted terrible. For this reason, I went for many years
>>>thinking that I hated butter unless my grandma made it. I realize now that
>>>the butter was likely rancid. The restaurant appeared to be a fancy one,
>>>but
>>>maybe not. It was somewhere downtown and a place I'd never been before.
>>>
>>>I also remember arguing with my mom when she insisted that I put the oil
>>>and
>>>vinegar on my salad. She and I had both ordered "dry" salads and the
>>>waitress wouldn't have this. I now know it is much easier just to order a
>>>lemon wedge. Nobody ever questions that but some wait staff have issues if
>>>you want no dressing.
>>>
>>>So... I was unhappy. Roll that I wouldn't eat because of the bad butter.
>>>Salad that I wouldn't eat because the roll and vinegar ruined it. But in
>>>taking that bite of salad, I swallowed a loose tooth. From there it was
>>>all
>>>downhill.
>>>
>>>My mom freaked and dragged me to the restaurant's entrance where the pay
>>>phone was so she could call someone. Dr. or dentist. Can't remember who.
>>>That was the highlight of the meal. I stood there watching people coming
>>>in
>>>and out through the fancy looking revolving door while my mom stood there
>>>freaking, only to learn that I'd pass the tooth my stool.
>>>
>>>I don't remember any more of the meal. Maybe they just took me home and I
>>>ate no more. Knowing how freaked out my mom was, she likely thought it
>>>wouldn't be safe for me to eat or something. Not sure. Meal was memorable
>>>though.
>>
>> Have you ever considered a career in being a weight loss councilor?
>> I've never - ever - come across anyone who can take all the joy out
>> food like you can.
>
>Heh.

Seriously, you could be really effective in that role :)

I'm currently cooking dinner before breakfast (as I often do).
Slow cooked lamb shoulder (browned first/finished with balsamic
vinegar), with the usual host of veggies, stock and herbs and spices.

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:26:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:00:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>>> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.
>>>>
>>>>I read that salt is used to cover what could be a rancid taste. Don't
>>>>know
>>>>if this is true or not. Don't think my grandma ever added salt to hers.
>>>>
>>>>I do remember attempting to eat a pat of butter in a restaurant in
>>>>Wichita.
>>>>In those days, the pats came on a piece of paper with waxed paper over
>>>>the
>>>>top. The butter tasted terrible. For this reason, I went for many years
>>>>thinking that I hated butter unless my grandma made it. I realize now
>>>>that
>>>>the butter was likely rancid. The restaurant appeared to be a fancy one,
>>>>but
>>>>maybe not. It was somewhere downtown and a place I'd never been before.
>>>>
>>>>I also remember arguing with my mom when she insisted that I put the oil
>>>>and
>>>>vinegar on my salad. She and I had both ordered "dry" salads and the
>>>>waitress wouldn't have this. I now know it is much easier just to order
>>>>a
>>>>lemon wedge. Nobody ever questions that but some wait staff have issues
>>>>if
>>>>you want no dressing.
>>>>
>>>>So... I was unhappy. Roll that I wouldn't eat because of the bad butter.
>>>>Salad that I wouldn't eat because the roll and vinegar ruined it. But in
>>>>taking that bite of salad, I swallowed a loose tooth. From there it was
>>>>all
>>>>downhill.
>>>>
>>>>My mom freaked and dragged me to the restaurant's entrance where the pay
>>>>phone was so she could call someone. Dr. or dentist. Can't remember who.
>>>>That was the highlight of the meal. I stood there watching people coming
>>>>in
>>>>and out through the fancy looking revolving door while my mom stood
>>>>there
>>>>freaking, only to learn that I'd pass the tooth my stool.
>>>>
>>>>I don't remember any more of the meal. Maybe they just took me home and
>>>>I
>>>>ate no more. Knowing how freaked out my mom was, she likely thought it
>>>>wouldn't be safe for me to eat or something. Not sure. Meal was
>>>>memorable
>>>>though.
>>>
>>> Have you ever considered a career in being a weight loss councilor?
>>> I've never - ever - come across anyone who can take all the joy out
>>> food like you can.
>>
>>Heh.
>
> Seriously, you could be really effective in that role :)
>
> I'm currently cooking dinner before breakfast (as I often do).
> Slow cooked lamb shoulder (browned first/finished with balsamic
> vinegar), with the usual host of veggies, stock and herbs and spices.

I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for Thai
food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this place.
My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I can't see
it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this place but Thai is
not a flavor profile that appeals to me.

http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>Recently my power was off for 5 days due to a really severe flood. I had
>>butter in the freezer and it seems to be just fine. I have heard of people
>>keeping butter out of the fridge for weeks. It has no rancid smell and
>>tastes fine, is it safe to eat?
>
> It'll be fine. My butter never sees the fridge once I start using it.
> Done this for at least a decade without any issues.

Me too.

Cheri

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On 7/15/2016 7:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
> will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for
> Thai food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this
> place. My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I
> can't see it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this
> place but Thai is not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>
> http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html

The menu states "Showering Rama" (weird name) is made with chicken OR tofu.

Jill

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/15/2016 7:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
>> will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for
>> Thai food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this
>> place. My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I
>> can't see it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this
>> place but Thai is not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>>
>> http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html
>
> The menu states "Showering Rama" (weird name) is made with chicken OR
> tofu.

Oh. I guess I missed that. He did like chicken. The girls did not like the
food. I could have predicted that. So... Husband has food for tomorrow.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:49:45 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 7/15/2016 7:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
>>> will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for
>>> Thai food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this
>>> place. My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I
>>> can't see it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this
>>> place but Thai is not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>>>
>>> http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html
>>
>> The menu states "Showering Rama" (weird name) is made with chicken OR
>> tofu.
>
> The dinner menu says any meat (chicken, beef, pork), tofu, shrimp, or
> "seafood" (last two for an upcharge).

Okay. I did miss that. I just gave it a quick glance. Perhaps the girl who
paid for the meal does like the food there but the two that went her did
not. I could have predicted as such as one is pretty picky.

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:40:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> I'm currently cooking dinner before breakfast (as I often do).
>> Slow cooked lamb shoulder (browned first/finished with balsamic
>> vinegar), with the usual host of veggies, stock and herbs and spices.
>
>I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
>will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for Thai
>food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this place.
>My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I can't see
>it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this place but Thai is
>not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>
>http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html

I had a look at the dinner menu and nothing got me particularly
excited. To be fair, I'm not especially big on Asian cuisine (unless
it involves coconut or satay) so I'm a bit hard to please in that
regard. For the appetizers I'd go for either the Chicken Satay or the
Crab Delight. I'd have to try the roast Duck Curry as the main.

Re the Massaman Curry:
"Massaman curry paste and coconut milk with potatoes, onion, and
roasted peanut"

Potato with coconut milk and roasted peanuts? Really? I'll pass on
that one...

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On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 1:41:08 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:26:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:00:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.
> >>>>
> >>>>I read that salt is used to cover what could be a rancid taste. Don't
> >>>>know
> >>>>if this is true or not. Don't think my grandma ever added salt to hers.
> >>>>
> >>>>I do remember attempting to eat a pat of butter in a restaurant in
> >>>>Wichita.
> >>>>In those days, the pats came on a piece of paper with waxed paper over
> >>>>the
> >>>>top. The butter tasted terrible. For this reason, I went for many years
> >>>>thinking that I hated butter unless my grandma made it. I realize now
> >>>>that
> >>>>the butter was likely rancid. The restaurant appeared to be a fancy one,
> >>>>but
> >>>>maybe not. It was somewhere downtown and a place I'd never been before.
> >>>>
> >>>>I also remember arguing with my mom when she insisted that I put the oil
> >>>>and
> >>>>vinegar on my salad. She and I had both ordered "dry" salads and the
> >>>>waitress wouldn't have this. I now know it is much easier just to order
> >>>>a
> >>>>lemon wedge. Nobody ever questions that but some wait staff have issues
> >>>>if
> >>>>you want no dressing.
> >>>>
> >>>>So... I was unhappy. Roll that I wouldn't eat because of the bad butter.
> >>>>Salad that I wouldn't eat because the roll and vinegar ruined it. But in
> >>>>taking that bite of salad, I swallowed a loose tooth. From there it was
> >>>>all
> >>>>downhill.
> >>>>
> >>>>My mom freaked and dragged me to the restaurant's entrance where the pay
> >>>>phone was so she could call someone. Dr. or dentist. Can't remember who.
> >>>>That was the highlight of the meal. I stood there watching people coming
> >>>>in
> >>>>and out through the fancy looking revolving door while my mom stood
> >>>>there
> >>>>freaking, only to learn that I'd pass the tooth my stool.
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't remember any more of the meal. Maybe they just took me home and
> >>>>I
> >>>>ate no more. Knowing how freaked out my mom was, she likely thought it
> >>>>wouldn't be safe for me to eat or something. Not sure. Meal was
> >>>>memorable
> >>>>though.
> >>>
> >>> Have you ever considered a career in being a weight loss councilor?
> >>> I've never - ever - come across anyone who can take all the joy out
> >>> food like you can.
> >>
> >>Heh.
> >
> > Seriously, you could be really effective in that role :)
> >
> > I'm currently cooking dinner before breakfast (as I often do).
> > Slow cooked lamb shoulder (browned first/finished with balsamic
> > vinegar), with the usual host of veggies, stock and herbs and spices.
>
> I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
> will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for Thai
> food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this place..
> My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I can't see
> it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this place but Thai is
> not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>
> http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html

Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it cheap. Hee hee.

A new food court opened up recently. It serves mostly Japanese and local food items. It's a damn beautiful food court!

http://www.frolichawaii.com/stories/...-village-walk/

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:40:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> I'm currently cooking dinner before breakfast (as I often do).
>>> Slow cooked lamb shoulder (browned first/finished with balsamic
>>> vinegar), with the usual host of veggies, stock and herbs and spices.
>>
>>I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
>>will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for
>>Thai
>>food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this place.
>>My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I can't
>>see
>>it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this place but Thai
>>is
>>not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>>
>>http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html
>
> I had a look at the dinner menu and nothing got me particularly
> excited. To be fair, I'm not especially big on Asian cuisine (unless
> it involves coconut or satay) so I'm a bit hard to please in that
> regard. For the appetizers I'd go for either the Chicken Satay or the
> Crab Delight. I'd have to try the roast Duck Curry as the main.
>
> Re the Massaman Curry:
> "Massaman curry paste and coconut milk with potatoes, onion, and
> roasted peanut"
>
> Potato with coconut milk and roasted peanuts? Really? I'll pass on
> that one...

I don't think I've ever eaten curry. The smell of it just puts me on.

Not a big fan of coconut in things but by itself it's okay. And I don't like
peanuts in things. Especially not savory things.

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dsi1 wrote:
>
> Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it cheap. Hee hee.

I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
hot food. Never had any though....yet.

I have no urge for Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese food.

I do still love Chinese food. Mostly the Szechwan hotter foods. One
local restaurant keeps putting menus on my door. I plan to try it
sometime soon. If I do the lunch menu, it's much cheaper.

Anyway, here's my wish list for an order there. Whenever I do this, I'll
call it in for pickup so I don't have to give a generous tip to a
deliverer. I'm cheap .

- 2 spring rolls (not egg rolls)
- 1 quart or pint of hot&sour soup (with fried noodle pack)
- 1 sweet and sour pork (not hot)
- 1 from the hot menu like General Tso's chicken or whatever
- all with fried rice, not plain white rice

This one order will give me a couple of meals and a couple of snacks.

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On 7/15/2016 2:00 PM, wrote:
> I've read that salted butter keeps much better.
>
One can also use it as anal lube in an emergency.

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On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:


> Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My
> wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> cheap. Hee hee.


I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai. Vietnamese
food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had Japanese
several times and it just wasn't very good at all.

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:13:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
> hot food. Never had any though....yet.

I've heard that, but never experienced a truly hot dish so they must
tone it down for white people. I think you'll like it when you get to
try it. Pad Thai is a famous noodle dish, but if you like meat and
you like salad - try Thai Beef Salad sometime. It's addictive. I'm a
big fan of any Thai eggplant dish too. I may not know what the dish
is, but I know I'll like it if it contains eggplant.

--

sf

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 10:07:25 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:13:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
> > hot food. Never had any though....yet.
>
> I've heard that, but never experienced a truly hot dish so they must
> tone it down for white people.
....

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of the first time I ordered some green curry from a well known Asian food restaurant, and I told the water I wanted it hot but not too hot. When I got the green curry dish I ordered it was delicious but barely hot at all! I learned!! Now I order stuff "thai hot" so they know I mean business! MeLOVES capsaicin!! :-)

John Kuthe...

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 2:11:58 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it cheap. Hee hee.
>
> I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
> hot food. Never had any though....yet.
>
> I have no urge for Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese food.
>
> I do still love Chinese food. Mostly the Szechwan hotter foods. One
> local restaurant keeps putting menus on my door. I plan to try it
> sometime soon. If I do the lunch menu, it's much cheaper.
>
> Anyway, here's my wish list for an order there. Whenever I do this, I'll
> call it in for pickup so I don't have to give a generous tip to a
> deliverer. I'm cheap .
>
> - 2 spring rolls (not egg rolls)
> - 1 quart or pint of hot&sour soup (with fried noodle pack)
> - 1 sweet and sour pork (not hot)
> - 1 from the hot menu like General Tso's chicken or whatever
> - all with fried rice, not plain white rice
>
> This one order will give me a couple of meals and a couple of snacks.

I'd eat that. These days we go to Panda which is a fast food joint that serves mostly stir fried Chinese-like dishes. It's a sad state of affairs. The old ways are dying out.

https://www.pandaexpress.com/menu/entrees

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 10:07:25 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:13:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
> > hot food. Never had any though....yet.
>
> I've heard that, but never experienced a truly hot dish so they must
> tone it down for white people. I think you'll like it when you get to
> try it.
>
I've had Thai food once. It was at a local restaurant that had
rave reviews. I did request easy on the heat and it was a chicken
dish. Very unimpressive as it was not too hot butter rubbery
chicken. Blah. I'll try it again at another restaurant in the
future but really have no desire any time soon.
>
> I'm a big fan of any Thai eggplant dish too. I may not know what the dish
> is, but I know I'll like it if it contains eggplant.
>
> sf
>
That is one vegetable I can go the rest of my life without every
eating again.

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 3:59:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>
> > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> > passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My
> > wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> > cheap. Hee hee.
>
>
> I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai. Vietnamese
> food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had Japanese
> several times and it just wasn't very good at all.

Korean food and culture is trending in the US and worldwide. My friend's German ex-girlfriend is so obsessed with the Koreans that she loves their spicy dishes now. He says she would never eat spicy foods before. I can hardly believe it's possible.

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On 2016-07-16 11:07 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:13:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
>> hot food. Never had any though....yet.
>
> I've heard that, but never experienced a truly hot dish so they must
> tone it down for white people. I think you'll like it when you get to
> try it. Pad Thai is a famous noodle dish, but if you like meat and
> you like salad - try Thai Beef Salad sometime. It's addictive. I'm a
> big fan of any Thai eggplant dish too. I may not know what the dish
> is, but I know I'll like it if it contains eggplant.

Thai restaurants around here offer a range of heat on most of their
dishes 1 to 5 chili (symbols). The one we used to go to seemed to be hit
and miss. On one occasion we ordered something quite hot that was fairly
mild, while a dish we had ordered mild was quite hot. We tried a new
Thai restaurant a few months ago and, not being sure of their heat
levels, I ordered something medium. I liked the nice nip to it and would
not have wanted it much hotter and said that level 3 seemed to be the
way to go foe me. Then my son pointed out that I had asked for it medium
hot, and on their scale medium hot is only 2.

I once went to a Spanish restaurant with a guy from India. We ordered
paella and he asked for some hot sauce to go with it and explained that
he was from India and he liked his food spicy hot. When the waiter
brought a bowl of hot sauce and some crackers. I tried some. Holy cow.
It was hot. He said that it might be hot for me but again said he was
from India and is used to hot spice, that it would not be as hot for
him. Then he tried some..... " Oh golly, that is very hot".
>

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:13:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
>> hot food. Never had any though....yet.
>
> I've heard that, but never experienced a truly hot dish so they must
> tone it down for white people. I think you'll like it when you get to
> try it. Pad Thai is a famous noodle dish, but if you like meat and
> you like salad - try Thai Beef Salad sometime. It's addictive. I'm a
> big fan of any Thai eggplant dish too. I may not know what the dish
> is, but I know I'll like it if it contains eggplant.

I had an Thai neighbor in CA and most of what she made was seriously hot.
She bought the little peppers every week and sent some to friends in other
states. She bought tons of the things and would sit on a bamboo mat in the
garage. sorting through them before mailing.

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 2:11:58 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty passé.
> > Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My wife and
> > kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it cheap. Hee hee.
>
> I'd like to try Thai food sometime because I understand it's basically
> hot food. Never had any though....yet.
>
> I have no urge for Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese food.
>
> I do still love Chinese food. Mostly the Szechwan hotter foods. One
> local restaurant keeps putting menus on my door. I plan to try it
> sometime soon. If I do the lunch menu, it's much cheaper.
>
> Anyway, here's my wish list for an order there. Whenever I do this, I'll
> call it in for pickup so I don't have to give a generous tip to a
> deliverer. I'm cheap .
>
> - 2 spring rolls (not egg rolls)
> - 1 quart or pint of hot&sour soup (with fried noodle pack)
> - 1 sweet and sour pork (not hot)
> - 1 from the hot menu like General Tso's chicken or whatever
> - all with fried rice, not plain white rice
>
> This one order will give me a couple of meals and a couple of snacks.

I'd eat that. These days we go to Panda which is a fast food joint that
serves mostly stir fried Chinese-like dishes. It's a sad state of affairs.
The old ways are dying out.

https://www.pandaexpress.com/menu/entrees

I made the mistake of getting food for Angela there once. She was stuck
home, sick and I was having a very bad day. I'd been out driving people
around and doing errands and I got home far later than I wanted to. I think
they were close to closing. The food was dried out and inedible.

More recently, she went to the one at the mall with friends and said that
the food was good.

My friend who used to work near one said that it could be good or bad. She
said to check the steam tables first. If they were busy, the food was likely
to be more fresh. But it's still highly Americanized. Her husband was
Japanese and she prefers authentic Asian food.

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 3:59:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>
> > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> > passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My
> > wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> > cheap. Hee hee.
>
>
> I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai. Vietnamese
> food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had Japanese
> several times and it just wasn't very good at all.

Korean food and culture is trending in the US and worldwide. My friend's
German ex-girlfriend is so obsessed with the Koreans that she loves their
spicy dishes now. He says she would never eat spicy foods before. I can
hardly believe it's possible.

---

One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place. Rave
reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 03:23:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:40:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> I'm currently cooking dinner before breakfast (as I often do).
>>>> Slow cooked lamb shoulder (browned first/finished with balsamic
>>>> vinegar), with the usual host of veggies, stock and herbs and spices.
>>>
>>>I'm not cooking. Husband had the leftover Mexican Tater Tot casserole. I
>>>will have the same. Was super good! The girls were talking of going for
>>>Thai
>>>food. I will believe it when I see it. Not sure they will like this place.
>>>My dad loved it and said that he always had the Showering Rama. I can't
>>>see
>>>it as I don't think he liked tofu. People rave about this place but Thai
>>>is
>>>not a flavor profile that appeals to me.
>>>
>>>http://thaifoodforyou.com/lynnwood.html
>>
>> I had a look at the dinner menu and nothing got me particularly
>> excited. To be fair, I'm not especially big on Asian cuisine (unless
>> it involves coconut or satay) so I'm a bit hard to please in that
>> regard. For the appetizers I'd go for either the Chicken Satay or the
>> Crab Delight. I'd have to try the roast Duck Curry as the main.
>>
>> Re the Massaman Curry:
>> "Massaman curry paste and coconut milk with potatoes, onion, and
>> roasted peanut"
>>
>> Potato with coconut milk and roasted peanuts? Really? I'll pass on
>> that one...
>
>I don't think I've ever eaten curry. The smell of it just puts me on.
>
>Not a big fan of coconut in things but by itself it's okay. And I don't like
>peanuts in things. Especially not savory things.

Yep...

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 3:59:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> > > passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My
> > > wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> > > cheap. Hee hee.
> >
> >
> > I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai. Vietnamese
> > food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had Japanese
> > several times and it just wasn't very good at all.
>
> Korean food and culture is trending in the US and worldwide. My friend's
> German ex-girlfriend is so obsessed with the Koreans that she loves their
> spicy dishes now. He says she would never eat spicy foods before. I can
> hardly believe it's possible.
>
> ---
>> One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place. Rave
> reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.

The woman was stalking a K-pop star so I suppose that had something to do with it. :)

My guess is that the future of food in the US is going to be mix of foods from Asia, Africa and Europe. This has happened before and the result is American food. This will be the new wave American food - everything going be mix-up.

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Find-in-Hawaii

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On 7/16/2016 2:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place.
> Rave reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.

It would appear obvious the only food that really appeals to you
involves beans.

Jill

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 3:59:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> > > passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My
> > > wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> > > cheap. Hee hee.
> >
> >
> > I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai. Vietnamese
> > food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had Japanese
> > several times and it just wasn't very good at all.
>
> Korean food and culture is trending in the US and worldwide. My friend's
> German ex-girlfriend is so obsessed with the Koreans that she loves their
> spicy dishes now. He says she would never eat spicy foods before. I can
> hardly believe it's possible.
>
> ---
>> One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place.
>> Rave
> reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.

The woman was stalking a K-pop star so I suppose that had something to do
with it. :)

My guess is that the future of food in the US is going to be mix of foods
from Asia, Africa and Europe. This has happened before and the result is
American food. This will be the new wave American food - everything going be
mix-up.

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Find-in-Hawaii

---

Some of that looks really good!

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/16/2016 2:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place.
>> Rave reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.
>
> It would appear obvious the only food that really appeals to you involves
> beans.

Nope. I love all kinds of raw vegetables, some cooked ones, popcorn, wild
rice. And lately I have been craving French Dips.

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dsi1 wrote:
>
>These days we go to Panda which is a fast food joint that serves mostly stir fried Chinese-like dishes. It's a sad state of affairs. The old ways are dying out.

Used to be a "Beijing Express" very nearby here. Just like you said
almost a fast food place for stir fry dishes (and other things). I loved
that food and ate there often. Guess that depends on the specific
location and who owned the franchise.

Looking up "Panda", I see there is one here but a bit far unless I'm out
that way anyway. Interestingly, it looks to me like Panda is the same
franchise as Beijing just under a new name. The websites are about the
same.

http://www.beyondmenu.com/26080/virg...ach-23452.aspx

http://www.beyondmenu.com/24894/acco...eek-20607.aspx

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 6:53:50 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 3:59:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> > > > passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. My
> > > > wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> > > > cheap. Hee hee.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai. Vietnamese
> > > food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had Japanese
> > > several times and it just wasn't very good at all.
> >
> > Korean food and culture is trending in the US and worldwide. My friend's
> > German ex-girlfriend is so obsessed with the Koreans that she loves their
> > spicy dishes now. He says she would never eat spicy foods before. I can
> > hardly believe it's possible.
> >
> > ---
> >> One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place.
> >> Rave
> > reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.
>
> The woman was stalking a K-pop star so I suppose that had something to do
> with it. :)
>
> My guess is that the future of food in the US is going to be mix of foods
> from Asia, Africa and Europe. This has happened before and the result is
> American food. This will be the new wave American food - everything going be
> mix-up.
>
> http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Find-in-Hawaii
>
> ---
>
> Some of that looks really good!

I'll have to agree with that. My wife's friend's son opened up a restaurant recently. We're going to have to go there real soon. :)

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Easy-in-Kailua

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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 11:02:06 PM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >These days we go to Panda which is a fast food joint that serves mostly stir fried Chinese-like dishes. It's a sad state of affairs. The old ways are dying out.
>
> Used to be a "Beijing Express" very nearby here. Just like you said
> almost a fast food place for stir fry dishes (and other things). I loved
> that food and ate there often. Guess that depends on the specific
> location and who owned the franchise.
>
> Looking up "Panda", I see there is one here but a bit far unless I'm out
> that way anyway. Interestingly, it looks to me like Panda is the same
> franchise as Beijing just under a new name. The websites are about the
> same.
>
> http://www.beyondmenu.com/26080/virg...ach-23452.aspx
>
> http://www.beyondmenu.com/24894/acco...eek-20607.aspx

It's a different company. Panda Express has a limited menu and most of entrees are wokked. It's a very slick operation and all the ingredients are prepped and bagged and ready for the wok. The food is cooked at high temperature in minutes and in amounts of about 6 portions. The food doesn't sit around a long time as it does in most Chinese joints that use steam tables. Brilliant!

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 6:53:50 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 3:59:09 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-07-16 5:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Those poor Chinese restaurants! These days they're looking pretty
> > > > passé. Everybody would rather have Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese.
> > > > My
> > > > wife and kids no longer want Chinese food. I like it because it
> > > > cheap. Hee hee.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't mind Chinese food, but it takes a back seat to Thai.
> > > Vietnamese
> > > food has not impressed. I have not yet tried Korean. I have had
> > > Japanese
> > > several times and it just wasn't very good at all.
> >
> > Korean food and culture is trending in the US and worldwide. My friend's
> > German ex-girlfriend is so obsessed with the Koreans that she loves
> > their
> > spicy dishes now. He says she would never eat spicy foods before. I can
> > hardly believe it's possible.
> >
> > ---
> >> One of my favorite Mexican places is gone and it's now a Korean place.
> >> Rave
> > reviews but in looking at the menu, the food doesn't appeal to me.
>
> The woman was stalking a K-pop star so I suppose that had something to do
> with it. :)
>
> My guess is that the future of food in the US is going to be mix of foods
> from Asia, Africa and Europe. This has happened before and the result is
> American food. This will be the new wave American food - everything going
> be
> mix-up.
>
> http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Find-in-Hawaii
>
> ---
>
> Some of that looks really good!

I'll have to agree with that. My wife's friend's son opened up a restaurant
recently. We're going to have to go there real soon. :)

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Easy-in-Kailua

---

Nice!

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On 7/17/2016 5:38 AM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> I'll have to agree with that. My wife's friend's son opened up a restaurant recently. We're going to have to go there real soon. :)
>
> http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Easy-in-Kailua
>

I'd go there. Some of the dishes look good to me. Nice to get
publicity like that up front too.

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On Sunday, July 17, 2016 at 4:12:04 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/17/2016 5:38 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > I'll have to agree with that. My wife's friend's son opened up a restaurant recently. We're going to have to go there real soon. :)
> >
> > http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono...Easy-in-Kailua
> >
>
> I'd go there. Some of the dishes look good to me. Nice to get
> publicity like that up front too.

Like a lot of chefs in this town, the owners got schooled/mentored/transformed by Alan Wong. He's like the godfather of the new Hawaiian cuisine.

http://www.alanwongs.com/

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My son picked up Thai food when he was here for a visit. I didn't want any
because it was peanutty, and I don't like peanuts or the flavor in hot foods.
His restaurant of choice scores their foods as 1-5 for degrees of heat. He
couldn't really eat the one he ordered as a "3" but enjoyed the "1" and "2"
dishes. I hate to think what a "5" would be...he loves hot food.

N.