On 7/22/2016 7:13 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had with
>> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never consider
>> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as standard
>> these days but some entry level one may not.
>>
>> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a couple
>> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year ir
>> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>
> I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
> windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
> downhill from there.
>

I've had heated seats for 15 years. Present car has cooled seats too.
It was nice today when it was 96F (35.5C) outside and the climate
control is set on 72.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...

> Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.

I do not. I'm a cold weather person.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC in my
>>> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to differ. I
>>> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when the sun
>>> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car uncomfortably warm
>>> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
>>> >
>>> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car with no
>>> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had with
>>> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never consider
>>> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as standard
>>> these days but some entry level one may not.
>>>
>>> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a couple
>>> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year ir
>>> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>>
>> I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>> windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
>> downhill from there.
>
> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a hundred
> here for several months out of the year.

Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their cars
and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating and they
cause me to overheat quickly.

On 7/22/2016 5:42 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 4:00:14 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> In the 50's or so people did not shower as often as we do
>>> today, hair cream was more common, detergents and washing machines not
>>> as good.
>>>
>>>
>> Ever look at old photos from the 30's & 40's and notice all those
>> doilies on the backs of chairs and sofas? That was to absorb all
>> that nasty, greasy hair cream men used to apply to tame their locks.
>
> Nobody I know uses it anymore, but I still love the smell of Brylcreem.
>
> Cheri
Brylcream, a little dab'll do yer
Brylcream, you'll look so debonair
Brylcream, the girls will all pursue yer
They'll love to get their fingers in your hair.

Obviously, whoever wrote that last line had a strange fetish:-)
Graham

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:45:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Yep. I hate those seat warmers too.

That's about 11 new things you've 'hated' this week. You could always
leave them turned off.

> My SIL and bro have them in their cars

My Subaru Forester has heated seats. I initially thought they were a
stupid idea but I was very wrong about that. Great for lower back
pain.

>and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating and they
>cause me to overheat quickly.

Aww.

On 7/22/2016 11:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>>> I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>>> windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
>>> downhill from there.
>>
>> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a hundred
>> here for several months out of the year.
>
> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their
> cars and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating
> and they cause me to overheat quickly.

You don't need them in mild climates, but when it is 10 degrees, they
sure are nice. Most cold morning I turn them on, but after 10 or 15
minutes I turn it off. My wife leaves hers on.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their cars
> and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating and
> they cause me to overheat quickly.

I've never ridden in a car that had them, but I imagine I wouldn't care for
them since I do overheat easily too.

Cheri

"graham" > wrote in message
...

> Brylcream, a little dab'll do yer
> Brylcream, you'll look so debonair
> Brylcream, the girls will all pursue yer
> They'll love to get their fingers in your hair.
>
> Obviously, whoever wrote that last line had a strange fetish:-)
> Graham

LOL, possibly.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC in my
>>> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to differ. I
>>> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when the sun
>>> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car uncomfortably warm
>>> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
>>> >
>>> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car with no
>>> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had with
>>> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never consider
>>> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as standard
>>> these days but some entry level one may not.
>>>
>>> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a couple
>>> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year ir
>>> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>>
>> I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>> windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
>> downhill from there.
>
> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a hundred
> here for several months out of the year.

I've never had a car with it, but we don't have your hellish heat to deal
with.

I do need a heater for winter though)


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"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >,
>> >
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC in my
>> >> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to differ. I
>> >> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when the
>> >> > sun
>> >> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car uncomfortably
>> >> > warm
>> >> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car with
>> >> > no
>> >> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had with
>> >> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never
>> >> consider
>> >> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as standard
>> >> these days but some entry level one may not.
>> >>
>> >> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a
>> >> couple
>> >> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year ir
>> >> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>> >
>> > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>> > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
>> > downhill from there.
>>
>> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a hundred
>> here
>> for several months out of the year.
>
> Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.

I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot climate. I
remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which is
what I do here) I soon closed them again))



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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>
>> Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>
> I do not. I'm a cold weather person.

Oh yes! I am much happier in the winter When it's cold you can put on
more warm clothes. In the heat there is a limit to how much you can take
off.


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"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/22/2016 5:42 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 4:00:14 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In the 50's or so people did not shower as often as we do
>>>> today, hair cream was more common, detergents and washing machines not
>>>> as good.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ever look at old photos from the 30's & 40's and notice all those
>>> doilies on the backs of chairs and sofas? That was to absorb all
>>> that nasty, greasy hair cream men used to apply to tame their locks.
>>
>> Nobody I know uses it anymore, but I still love the smell of Brylcreem.
>>
>> Cheri
> Brylcream, a little dab'll do yer
> Brylcream, you'll look so debonair
> Brylcream, the girls will all pursue yer
> They'll love to get their fingers in your hair.
>
> Obviously, whoever wrote that last line had a strange fetish:-)
> Graham

Yuck!
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In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> T...
> >> > In article >,
> >> >
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC in my
> >> >> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to differ. I
> >> >> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when the
> >> >> > sun
> >> >> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car uncomfortably
> >> >> > warm
> >> >> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car with
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had with
> >> >> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never
> >> >> consider
> >> >> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as standard
> >> >> these days but some entry level one may not.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a
> >> >> couple
> >> >> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year ir
> >> >> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
> >> >
> >> > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
> >> > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
> >> > downhill from there.
> >>
> >> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a hundred
> >> here
> >> for several months out of the year.
> >
> > Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>
> I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot climate. I
> remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which is
> what I do here) I soon closed them again))

It's pretty hot here normally, but it's mid winter now. I can't wait
until they turn on the oven again

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> T...
>> >> > In article >,
>> >> >
>> >> > says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC in
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to differ.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > sun
>> >> >> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car uncomfortably
>> >> >> > warm
>> >> >> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never
>> >> >> consider
>> >> >> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as
>> >> >> standard
>> >> >> these days but some entry level one may not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a
>> >> >> couple
>> >> >> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year
>> >> >> ir
>> >> >> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>> >> > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's
>> >> > all
>> >> > downhill from there.
>> >>
>> >> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a
>> >> hundred
>> >> here
>> >> for several months out of the year.
>> >
>> > Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>>
>> I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot climate. I
>> remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which is
>> what I do here) I soon closed them again))
>
> It's pretty hot here normally, but it's mid winter now. I can't wait
> until they turn on the oven again

Odd how some people can tolerate heat more then others. I would have
thought it depends on how it was when you were raised, but that's not true
in your case.




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In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >,
> > says...

> >> I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot
climate. I
> >> remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which is
> >> what I do here) I soon closed them again))
> >
> > It's pretty hot here normally, but it's mid winter now. I can't wait
> > until they turn on the oven again
>
> Odd how some people can tolerate heat more then others. I would have
> thought it depends on how it was when you were raised, but that's not true
> in your case.

No, I was raised in a similar climate to England, but I always liked 25+
(or even better 30+) temperatures.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/22/2016 7:13 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had with
>>> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never consider
>>> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as standard
>>> these days but some entry level one may not.
>>>
>>> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a couple
>>> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the year ir
>>> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>>
>> I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>> windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
>> downhill from there.
>>
>
> I've had heated seats for 15 years. Present car has cooled seats too. It
> was nice today when it was 96F (35.5C) outside and the climate control is
> set on 72.

Ooh boy. Not for me. Actually 72 is even too warm for my comfort. I'll take
cold over warm any day.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 6:13:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
> > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
> > downhill from there.
> >
> >
> You must live where there is no humidity and the temperature
> is not in the upper 90's in the summer.

"Bruce" forgot he pretends to live in Australia.

Janet UK

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/22/2016 11:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>>> I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>>>> windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
>>>> downhill from there.
>>>
>>> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a hundred
>>> here for several months out of the year.
>>
>> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their
>> cars and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating
>> and they cause me to overheat quickly.
>
> You don't need them in mild climates, but when it is 10 degrees, they sure
> are nice. Most cold morning I turn them on, but after 10 or 15 minutes I
> turn it off. My wife leaves hers on.

Most winters it doesn't even get to freezing much. You might wake up to
frost on car windows but the ground rarely freezes deeply. And I generally
still use my AC in the winter because the sun coming through the windows
makes the car hot. If I do use the heat, it's generally just to get the
moisture off the windows.

But... I have lived in very cold climates and I still wouldn't have liked
heated seats. Just feels uncomfortable to me. And the parts of me that do
get cold are not the ones I am sitting on, or my back either. It's mainly
just my hands that get cold.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their
>> cars and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating
>> and they cause me to overheat quickly.
>
> I've never ridden in a car that had them, but I imagine I wouldn't care
> for them since I do overheat easily too.

I did not realize that my SIL had them. She was rushing me to the ER when I
had gone into sepsis and had spiked a fever. So the heated seat was most
unwelcome!

In article >,
says...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 6:13:47 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
> > > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's all
> > > downhill from there.
> > >
> > >
> > You must live where there is no humidity and the temperature
> > is not in the upper 90's in the summer.
>
> "Bruce" forgot he pretends to live in Australia.

"Huh?"

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>
>> >> I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot
> climate. I
>> >> remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which
>> >> is
>> >> what I do here) I soon closed them again))
>> >
>> > It's pretty hot here normally, but it's mid winter now. I can't wait
>> > until they turn on the oven again
>>
>> Odd how some people can tolerate heat more then others. I would have
>> thought it depends on how it was when you were raised, but that's not
>> true
>> in your case.
>
> No, I was raised in a similar climate to England, but I always liked 25+
> (or even better 30+) temperatures.

Hmmm you can have my share)



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On 2016-07-23 12:20 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:45:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too.
>
> That's about 11 new things you've 'hated' this week. You could always
> leave them turned off.
>
>> My SIL and bro have them in their cars
>
> My Subaru Forester has heated seats. I initially thought they were a
> stupid idea but I was very wrong about that. Great for lower back
> pain.

My wife used to rave about the seat warmer in her friend's car. I
thought it sounded like a useless thing in a car, but when I got my CRV
it was one of the options that came with it. I like it. I have to turn
it off after a while because it gets uncomfortably warm but it sure is
great when you first get into a cold car on a freezing day.



>
>> and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating and they
>> cause me to overheat quickly.
>
> Aww.
>

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> T...
>>> > In article >,
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> >> T...
>>> >> > In article >,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC
>>> >> >> > in my
>>> >> >> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to
>>> >> >> > differ. I
>>> >> >> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when
>>> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> > sun
>>> >> >> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car uncomfortably
>>> >> >> > warm
>>> >> >> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car
>>> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> > no
>>> >> >> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had
>>> >> >> with
>>> >> >> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never
>>> >> >> consider
>>> >> >> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as
>>> >> >> standard
>>> >> >> these days but some entry level one may not.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a
>>> >> >> couple
>>> >> >> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the
>>> >> >> year ir
>>> >> >> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>>> >> > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and it's
>>> >> > all
>>> >> > downhill from there.
>>> >>
>>> >> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a
>>> >> hundred
>>> >> here
>>> >> for several months out of the year.
>>> >
>>> > Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>>>
>>> I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot climate.
>>> I
>>> remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which is
>>> what I do here) I soon closed them again))
>>
>> It's pretty hot here normally, but it's mid winter now. I can't wait
>> until they turn on the oven again
>
> Odd how some people can tolerate heat more then others. I would have
> thought it depends on how it was when you were raised, but that's not true
> in your case.
>

It got hot in Wichita and I don't remember it affecting me too badly as a
child. I also think small children often tolerate heat better than even
older kids. Then again, we had AC in the house and I have plenty of pics of
me out in my kiddie pool pouring buckets of water down myself.

On 7/23/2016 3:46 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote
>> "Bruce" > wrote
>>> Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>>
>> I do not. I'm a cold weather person.
>
> Oh yes! I am much happier in the winter When it's cold you can put
> on more warm clothes. In the heat there is a limit to how much you can
> take off.
>
Indeed.

On 7/23/2016 12:25 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 11:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their
>> cars and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating
>> and they cause me to overheat quickly.
>
> You don't need them in mild climates, but when it is 10 degrees, they
> sure are nice. Most cold morning I turn them on, but after 10 or 15
> minutes I turn it off. My wife leaves hers on.

Mine are adjustable from barely warm to ouch hot. Like
you, I like to take the edge off when it's really cold but
I generally turn mine off when the car warms up.

nancy

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> T...
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> >> T...
>>>> >> > In article >,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > says...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On 7/22/2016 3:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I used to get laughed at by coworkers because I insisted on AC
>>>> >> >> > in my
>>>> >> >> > car. They kept telling me that I didn't need it. I beg to
>>>> >> >> > differ. I
>>>> >> >> > think I use that more than I do heat. Even in the winter, when
>>>> >> >> > the
>>>> >> >> > sun
>>>> >> >> > comes through the car windows, it can make the car
>>>> >> >> > uncomfortably
>>>> >> >> > warm
>>>> >> >> > inside. And I don't like driving around with my windows down.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Thankfully, these days it's pretty hard to even buy a new car
>>>> >> >> > with
>>>> >> >> > no
>>>> >> >> > AC. At least not a Ford. I was told it is standard now.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Your co-workers are either nuts, cheap, or both. First car I had
>>>> >> >> with
>>>> >> >> AC was a '68 Olds Vista Cruiser I bought about 1972. I'd never
>>>> >> >> consider
>>>> >> >> a car without it. I don't know of any that don't have it as
>>>> >> >> standard
>>>> >> >> these days but some entry level one may not.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Rae I put the windows down too. When I was much younger I had a
>>>> >> >> couple
>>>> >> >> of convertibles, little desire today. Maybe 5 days out of the
>>>> >> >> year ir
>>>> >> >> would be fun, not today at 95 degrees in the hot sun.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I don't like airco and my car doesn't have it. I'd rather open the
>>>> >> > windows. Before you know it, you'll also want a bum warmer and
>>>> >> > it's all
>>>> >> > downhill from there.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I would not have a car without it since it's frequently over a
>>>> >> hundred
>>>> >> here
>>>> >> for several months out of the year.
>>>> >
>>>> > Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>>>>
>>>> I used to think so too until I moved to a country with a hot climate. I
>>>> remember the first day it was hot, so I opened all the windows (which
>>>> is
>>>> what I do here) I soon closed them again))
>>>
>>> It's pretty hot here normally, but it's mid winter now. I can't wait
>>> until they turn on the oven again
>>
>> Odd how some people can tolerate heat more then others. I would have
>> thought it depends on how it was when you were raised, but that's not
>> true in your case.
>>
>
> It got hot in Wichita and I don't remember it affecting me too badly as a
> child. I also think small children often tolerate heat better than even
> older kids. Then again, we had AC in the house and I have plenty of pics
> of me out in my kiddie pool pouring buckets of water down myself.

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On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 07:20:30 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-07-23 12:20 AM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:45:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too.
>>
>> That's about 11 new things you've 'hated' this week. You could always
>> leave them turned off.
>>
>>> My SIL and bro have them in their cars
>>
>> My Subaru Forester has heated seats. I initially thought they were a
>> stupid idea but I was very wrong about that. Great for lower back
>> pain.
>
>My wife used to rave about the seat warmer in her friend's car. I
>thought it sounded like a useless thing in a car, but when I got my CRV
>it was one of the options that came with it. I like it. I have to turn
>it off after a while because it gets uncomfortably warm but it sure is
>great when you first get into a cold car on a freezing day.

I've had seat warmers in my last couple of cars, and I don't know how
I ever managed without them. The ones in my Venza heat up really
quickly, which is nice. Next car I get, I'd like to have a steering
wheel warmer as well. That would be super useful.

Doris

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:55:52 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Yep. I hate those seat warmers too. My SIL and bro have them in their cars
> > and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating and
> > they cause me to overheat quickly.
>
> I've never ridden in a car that had them, but I imagine I wouldn't care for
> them since I do overheat easily too.
>
My car has seat warmers. You turn it on, it warms up the seat (so
you're not sitting on a block of ice) and then gradually decreases the
heat to off. It's only 10-15 minutes, maybe less. I never think to
time it. Neither of us like to turn the heater on, because we hate
breathing hot air - so the seat warmer does a nice job of making the
seat comfortable quickly.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>>
>>> Same here, but I just open one or two windows. I like hot weather.
>>
>> I do not. I'm a cold weather person.
>
> Oh yes! I am much happier in the winter When it's cold you can put on
> more warm clothes. In the heat there is a limit to how much you can take
> off.

Honestly, where I am, it doesn't really get cold enough to wear a coat most
days, but very true that you can always put on more clothes if cold.

Cheri

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Ooh boy. Not for me. Actually 72 is even too warm for my comfort. I'll take
> cold over warm any day.


Here's an interesting observation from your posts the last couple of
days.

You would NEVER even consider a car without air conditioning. Ok, that's
fine and normal for many people.

However for the past few years we've heard you whine and cry about the
hot weather occasionally. You constantly defended your position that you
can't possibly install even a small window unit ac in your house and you
constantly tell us that no one in your area has air conditioning.

You've spent more money on 2 swamp coolers in the past 2 years but still
refuse an ac. Personally, I'd punch a damn hole in the wall for one if I
ever had even a little need each year.

So anyway...all this about no ac in your house but yet you would never
even consider a car without it.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> But... I have lived in very cold climates and I still wouldn't have liked
> heated seats. Just feels uncomfortable to me.

A friend of mine asked me to run to the grocery store for her one day
and she gave me the keys to her car. Before I even got out of the
neighborhood, my butt felt like it was on fire. I thought something was
wrong with ME. I had never even heard of heated seats. hahaha

On 7/23/2016 11:46 AM, Gary wrote:

> However for the past few years we've heard you whine and cry about the
> hot weather occasionally. You constantly defended your position that you
> can't possibly install even a small window unit ac in your house and you
> constantly tell us that no one in your area has air conditioning.
>
> You've spent more money on 2 swamp coolers in the past 2 years but still
> refuse an ac. Personally, I'd punch a damn hole in the wall for one if I
> ever had even a little need each year.
>
Split units can be installed just about anywhere, and need only a 3-4"
hole in the wall.

<http://www.wikihow.com/Install-a-Split-System-Air-Conditioner>

On 7/23/2016 1:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/22/2016 5:42 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 4:00:14 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In the 50's or so people did not shower as often as we do
>>>>> today, hair cream was more common, detergents and washing machines not
>>>>> as good.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ever look at old photos from the 30's & 40's and notice all those
>>>> doilies on the backs of chairs and sofas? That was to absorb all
>>>> that nasty, greasy hair cream men used to apply to tame their locks.
>>>
>>> Nobody I know uses it anymore, but I still love the smell of Brylcreem.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>> Brylcream, a little dab'll do yer
>> Brylcream, you'll look so debonair
>> Brylcream, the girls will all pursue yer
>> They'll love to get their fingers in your hair.
>>
>> Obviously, whoever wrote that last line had a strange fetish:-)
>> Graham
>
> Yuck!
Don't you remember that jingle on ITV back in the late 50s - early 60s?
Graham

sf wrote:
>
> My car has seat warmers. You turn it on, it warms up the seat (so
> you're not sitting on a block of ice)

Oh get real. No one sits in their car and the seat feels like a block of
ice. Especially not you living in the fairly warm Bay Area and
(according to Sheldon) especially you with plenty of ass insulation.
Car seat warmers...just another gimmick and something else to break.

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 1:19:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-23 12:20 AM, Je�us wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:45:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Yep. I hate those seat warmers too.
> >
> > That's about 11 new things you've 'hated' this week. You could always
> > leave them turned off.
> >
> >> My SIL and bro have them in their cars
> >
> > My Subaru Forester has heated seats. I initially thought they were a
> > stupid idea but I was very wrong about that. Great for lower back
> > pain.
>
> My wife used to rave about the seat warmer in her friend's car. I
> thought it sounded like a useless thing in a car, but when I got my CRV
> it was one of the options that came with it. I like it. I have to turn
> it off after a while because it gets uncomfortably warm but it sure is
> great when you first get into a cold car on a freezing day.
>
>
>
> >
> >> and Angela's came with a removable one. I find them very irritating and they
> >> cause me to overheat quickly.
> >
> > Aww.
> >

My Sonata had heated seats and fog lights. I never had a car with either of them. I use the heated seats when I got new passengers on them. The switch was small so nobody would notice me pushing on them. It's a fun thing to do with this option. The fog lights were just plain cool.

OTOH, for the states in Northern regions of the mainland, heated seats are most welcome - fog lights too.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> sf wrote:
>>
>> My car has seat warmers. You turn it on, it warms up the seat (so
>> you're not sitting on a block of ice)
>
> Oh get real. No one sits in their car and the seat feels like a block of
> ice. Especially not you living in the fairly warm Bay Area and

Might be the case with leather seats, but mine are some kind of velour
material, never cold.

Cheri

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2016 1:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/22/2016 5:42 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 4:00:14 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the 50's or so people did not shower as often as we do
>>>>>> today, hair cream was more common, detergents and washing machines
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> as good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ever look at old photos from the 30's & 40's and notice all those
>>>>> doilies on the backs of chairs and sofas? That was to absorb all
>>>>> that nasty, greasy hair cream men used to apply to tame their locks.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody I know uses it anymore, but I still love the smell of Brylcreem.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>> Brylcream, a little dab'll do yer
>>> Brylcream, you'll look so debonair
>>> Brylcream, the girls will all pursue yer
>>> They'll love to get their fingers in your hair.
>>>
>>> Obviously, whoever wrote that last line had a strange fetish:-)
>>> Graham
>>
>> Yuck!
> Don't you remember that jingle on ITV back in the late 50s - early 60s?

No I don't

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> My car has seat warmers. You turn it on, it warms up the seat (so
>>> you're not sitting on a block of ice)
>>
>> Oh get real. No one sits in their car and the seat feels like a block of
>> ice. Especially not you living in the fairly warm Bay Area and
>
> Might be the case with leather seats, but mine are some kind of velour
> material, never cold.

I have to say I was a bit mystified by that one. I don't think I've ever
sat on a cold car seat ... but then I've never sat on a car seat with no
clothes on ...


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On 7/23/2016 6:20 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>
> But... I have lived in very cold climates and I still wouldn't have
> liked heated seats. Just feels uncomfortable to me. And the parts of me
> that do get cold are not the ones I am sitting on, or my back either.
> It's mainly just my hands that get cold.

Then you would like my heated steering wheel. It is my favorite feature
in the winter, even more than the seats. More comfortable than wearing
gloves.

On 7/23/2016 1:21 PM, Gary wrote:

> Car seat warmers...just another gimmick and something else to break.
>

Many of us like the comfort of them on a cold morning. When the
temperature is well below freezing they sure are nice. Of course. my
car will be running and warming up as I used the remote to start it,
turn on the heat to the desired temperature and if needed, the defroster.

Does you car have a radio in it? The new ones even have AM/FM now but
that's just another gimmick.