"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-08-07, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> .....leftover fresh pasta.
>
> How does that work?

Well, it was fresh as it was going into the boiling water. It's not quite so
fresh now but it's really good.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/6/2016 7:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/6/2016 3:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These are not my neighbors or their guests. They are people looking for
>>>> drugs. I see the same cars over and over again. By now, I know which
>>>> ones are the druggies and which are the dealers. Obviously I can't stop
>>>> them but I'd like them to go elsewhere. They are parked outside the
>>>> park, after dark, and the park is closed. They have no reason to be
>>>> there.
>>> (snippage)
>>>
>>> So call the cops! Whining about it on RFC isn't going to change
>>> anything.
>>
>> And neither is calling the cops. BDTD. Why do you whine about the food
>> at the club?
>
> I haven't mentioned (whined) about the food at the Club in quite some
> time.

I remember you posting the menu somewhat recently.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/6/2016 7:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/6/2016 3:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These are not my neighbors or their guests. They are people looking for
>>>> drugs. I see the same cars over and over again. By now, I know which
>>>> ones are the druggies and which are the dealers. Obviously I can't stop
>>>> them but I'd like them to go elsewhere. They are parked outside the
>>>> park, after dark, and the park is closed. They have no reason to be
>>>> there.
>>> (snippage)
>>>
>>> So call the cops! Whining about it on RFC isn't going to change
>>> anything.
>>
>> And neither is calling the cops. BDTD.
>
> One call may not do it. Call again. Make noise. Go up the ladder. For
> crying out loud, if things are really that bad, ask your neighbors to join
> in and call the police, too. The more voices the better. Would you like
> someone from RFC to call the police for you? My point is only you and
> your neighbors can do anything about it if this is going on in your
> neighborhood.

We all do Jill. But as I have said countless times... This area has had far
too many people moving into it and there isn't enough LE to keep up. A car
was stolen in the vicinity of my painter's house a couple of days ago. He
lives like three houses away but around the corner.

Today we saw a person being put in a body bag. Some kind of really bad
accident over near where my mom lives. Many fire trucks, aid cars, cops and
Sheriffs there. Earlier today there was a rape in the bathroom of a nearby
dog park. A shoplifter stealing flowers from Safeway. Another couple of
people stealing clothing and shoes from a donation bin. One was inside the
bin, passing bags through the opening to the other person outside. These are
just the things I know of. I had the unfortunate timing of driving by the
after effects of the accident. I read about the others on FB. And there are
more. LE is kept very busy here.

There is no way they could possibly get to the area and witness a drug deal
going on if someone were to call them unless perhaps they just got lucky and
happened to be in the area. And frankly, they have bigger fish to fry than
that. They have made quite a few really big drug busts around here lately. I
also have it on good authority that they will not arrest a person who is
high on certain drugs. Why? They don't have the resources to deal with them
as they come off of the drugs.

Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 7/26/2016 3:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > She'd get dressed, drive to work, only to have them tell her that
> > she wasn't needed that day. When she tried to call ahead of time to
> > see if she was needed, they told her that she wasn't allowed to
> > call them. Or on the few occasions that she did work, they'd tell
> > her that she had to stay late but wouldn't allow her to call and
> > tell us this. This of course left her dad and I wondering where she
> > was. The only thing we could do was drive there and see if her car
> > was outside. He did call once to see if she was still there and she
> > got in trouble for him calling.
>
> I'm sorry Julie but I find this very hard to believe. You might have
> answered it later because as you can tell I'm not replying to a
> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
> that happening anywhere.

Agreed. This is bogus.

--

On 2016-08-06 8:31 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-08-07, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> .....leftover fresh pasta.
>
> How does that work?
>

Only in Bothell can you have fresh leftovers.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>
>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>
>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved shipping
>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck again.
>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>
>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in this
>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>
> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?

Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically the
moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
company.
>
> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.

Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it almost 12
years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some of
Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.

http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>
>>Plus when
>>we refinanced, we agreed not to sell the house for 5 years. Just not an
>>option even if we wanted to. We can't afford to put this house up to code
>>and the older houses aren't selling well here with all the new
>>construction.
>>Plus we have no money to buy anything else.
>
> Fair enough, I hope in future you plan ahead a little better with
> finance and choice of property.

There isn't going to be another house. I'm getting towards elderly now and
if I do have to move, it would have to be into some kind of senior place.
One thing I did put my foot down on when we bought the house was that it had
no stairs or if it had to have stairs, then I had to be able to have
everything I needed on one level. Such as kitchen, laundry and my bedroom at
least. That let out most of the properties for sale and all of the new
houses. Those are all being built up and up and up. No yard to speak of. No
extra parking. Just many flights of stairs. I watched my parent's struggle
with their stairs and I already don't do well with them. So this was
something that was flat out not open for discussion.

I also took the school district into consideration. For instance, the
Everett school district is not good, IMO. There were houses for sale just a
few blocks from here but in Mill Creek and that is the Everett school
disctrict. That was a no go for me.

We were also warned to stay in Snohomish county and not King as their
property taxes are much higher. There are many things to take into
consideration when buying a house. The reason this house was put up for sale
is that it is not on a bus line. The woman who lived here could no longer
drive so she was essentially trapped here unless she could find someone to
give her a ride.
>
>>This is not even one of the worst areas. Marysville, Everett and even
>>Arlington are getting bad. Crime and drugs are worse there than here.
>>Bottom
>>line, we own the house and are stuck here.
>
> I'm sure there are worse areas, but there is nothing that could compel
> me to stay in an area such as you have described on RFC over the
> years.

Well, that's you. I wouldn't live where you do either. Doesn't sound at all
appealing to me.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 21:08:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-06 8:31 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2016-08-07, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> .....leftover fresh pasta.
>>
>> How does that work?
>
>Only in Bothell can you have fresh leftovers.

Is salt fresh when only just extracted?

If a racoon falls through a window and no one is around to hear it,
does it make a sound?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/6/2016 10:49 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have to wonder why they bought the house in the first place. It
>>>>>>> sounds like she never liked it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there ever a point where people in this newsgroup start minding
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own business? Remember when they were questioning why you live where
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> live, McBiddy?
>>>>>
>>> Sticks and stones, Bruce. You're an asshole.
>>>>
>>>> To date Bruthie has never posted anything even remotely food
>>>> related... he's one of the most prolific shit stirrers here.
>>>
>>> Ain't that the truth!
>>>
>>> I didn't buy this house and it's true, I wouldn't have. Still, there
>>> isn't a thing wrong with it. The roof doesn't leak, all the appliances
>>> work, the AC keeps me nice and cool in the summer. So what if I don't
>>> like the wallpaper in the kitchen? That's not important.
>>>
>>> Julie makes it sound like she lives in a slum. It was her [husband's]
>>> choice to buy it. At least on Dataw I don't have to worry about whether
>>> or not my neighbors are dealing drugs. Then again, I don't sit around
>>> wondering what my neighbors are doing.
>>
>> No I don't. We don't even HAVE slums here in this state. Not that I know
>> of. The worst low income places I've seen around here look like heaven
>> compared to some of the places I've seen pictures of in NY and Chicago or
>> have seen for real in Philadelphia and Washington DC. And this isn't a
>> low income area. Slums are generally rental places and low income. Here
>> are some statistics about this city. Does this look like a slum to you?
>> The gray house in the pic is not my house but it is very near here. I've
>> never seen a slum like that.
>
> Oh yeah, you do have slums in the state, practically every city has one.

Well, I have never seen any. The state has taken great pains to integrate
low income people into all areas.

http://nhi.org/online/issues/142/organize.html

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...9121202AAXvLwo

This link mentions tent city but to me that is not a slum. It is a homeless
camp.

http://listverse.com/2014/08/06/10-o...pected-places/

I don't know. Maybe I have the wrong idea of what a slum is. I think of it
as a building. We do have homeless all over. They may or may not have
shelters. And they're sometimes living in the nice parts of town. For
instance, in the woods by where my mom lives.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-08-07, > wrote:
>
>
>> paint, not even that expensive.
>
> Apparently, you haven't priced a gallon of paint, lately.

It's not cheap!

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>
>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>
>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved shipping
>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck again.
>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>
>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in this
>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>
>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>
>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically the
>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>company.
>>
>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>
>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it almost 12
>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some of
>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>
>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp

LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
is now worth 400K anyway... so you could pay similar on another place
anyway. Prices seem to be on par with Sydney. Anyway, I'm over the
topic for now.

<snip>

>> I'm sure there are worse areas, but there is nothing that could compel
>> me to stay in an area such as you have described on RFC over the
>> years.
>
>Well, that's you. I wouldn't live where you do either. Doesn't sound at all
>appealing to me.

No argument there, you'd have a nervous breakdown within a week and
all the women in the area would disown you instantly anyway, in all
seriousness. We have no crime to speak of and a community that helps
and looks out for each other. It's just horrible.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:31:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2016-08-07, > wrote:
>>
>>> paint, not even that expensive.
>>
>> Apparently, you haven't priced a gallon of paint, lately.
>
>It's not cheap!

Agreed, paint ain't cheap.

On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 7/26/2016 3:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > She'd get dressed, drive to work, only to have them tell her that
>> > she wasn't needed that day. When she tried to call ahead of time to
>> > see if she was needed, they told her that she wasn't allowed to
>> > call them. Or on the few occasions that she did work, they'd tell
>> > her that she had to stay late but wouldn't allow her to call and
>> > tell us this. This of course left her dad and I wondering where she
>> > was. The only thing we could do was drive there and see if her car
>> > was outside. He did call once to see if she was still there and she
>> > got in trouble for him calling.
>>
>> I'm sorry Julie but I find this very hard to believe. You might have
>> answered it later because as you can tell I'm not replying to a
>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>> that happening anywhere.
>
>Agreed. This is bogus.

I would think that most parents would report this typeof thing to
Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the US).

Doris

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>news >>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>
>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved shipping
>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck again.
>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>
>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in
>>>>this
>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>
>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>
>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically the
>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>>company.
>>>
>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>
>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it almost
>>12
>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some of
>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>
>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>
> LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
> America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
> is now worth 400K anyway... so you could pay similar on another place
> anyway. Prices seem to be on par with Sydney. Anyway, I'm over the
> topic for now.

Yes, America's a big place. Do you really think we could just move to some
other state? Do you really think we'd want to? And no, we could not pay
similar on some other place. We can't pay any more than we do now and you
can't really even rent a place for what we pay now. You're over the topic
because I flat out proved you wrong.
>
> <snip>
>
>>> I'm sure there are worse areas, but there is nothing that could compel
>>> me to stay in an area such as you have described on RFC over the
>>> years.
>>
>>Well, that's you. I wouldn't live where you do either. Doesn't sound at
>>all
>>appealing to me.
>
> No argument there, you'd have a nervous breakdown within a week and
> all the women in the area would disown you instantly anyway, in all
> seriousness. We have no crime to speak of and a community that helps
> and looks out for each other. It's just horrible.

Why would I have a nervous breakdown? And what does that mean that the women
would disown me? No women own me here. Nobody does.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 7/26/2016 3:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > She'd get dressed, drive to work, only to have them tell her that
>> > she wasn't needed that day. When she tried to call ahead of time to
>> > see if she was needed, they told her that she wasn't allowed to
>> > call them. Or on the few occasions that she did work, they'd tell
>> > her that she had to stay late but wouldn't allow her to call and
>> > tell us this. This of course left her dad and I wondering where she
>> > was. The only thing we could do was drive there and see if her car
>> > was outside. He did call once to see if she was still there and she
>> > got in trouble for him calling.
>>
>> I'm sorry Julie but I find this very hard to believe. You might have
>> answered it later because as you can tell I'm not replying to a
>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>> that happening anywhere.
>
> Agreed. This is bogus.

Are you really telling me that if you had a job as a teen, they let you use
the phone? If that's so then all other places in this country are not like
they are here. I never had a job where I was allowed to freely use the
phone. Although I did do some reception and switchboard work so I
technically could do it.

But if you are the person on the register and there is no other counter
person... Do you really think it would be okay to leave to use the phone to
call home? I don't.

I never worked in a restaurant but I did work in a store. I had countless
days where I could not leave work at my scheduled hour. My parents learned
not to expect me to come home right away. If you are waiting on customers,
you can't just leave them there. And then there are things like
straightening up to do. No boss is going to allow you time to call home.
They want you to work!

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 7/26/2016 3:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > She'd get dressed, drive to work, only to have them tell her that
>>> > she wasn't needed that day. When she tried to call ahead of time to
>>> > see if she was needed, they told her that she wasn't allowed to
>>> > call them. Or on the few occasions that she did work, they'd tell
>>> > her that she had to stay late but wouldn't allow her to call and
>>> > tell us this. This of course left her dad and I wondering where she
>>> > was. The only thing we could do was drive there and see if her car
>>> > was outside. He did call once to see if she was still there and she
>>> > got in trouble for him calling.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry Julie but I find this very hard to believe. You might have
>>> answered it later because as you can tell I'm not replying to a
>>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>>> that happening anywhere.
>>
>>Agreed. This is bogus.
>
> I would think that most parents would report this typeof thing to
> Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the US).

Really? Why? They didn't violate any sort of anything. Were you never
required to stay late at work? If so, did you boss tell you kindly to call
home? Mine never did. This is a joke.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-08-06 8:31 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2016-08-07, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> .....leftover fresh pasta.
>>
>> How does that work?
>>
>
> Only in Bothell can you have fresh leftovers.

It was fresh when I cooked it. As opposed to dry.

Only three days ago, First bove says . . . .

> On 8/3/2016 1:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
(snip)
>> We are pretty sure that drug deals are going on across the street
>> from our house. Why there? No clue. I will sit out there and stare
>> at cars that are there for a long time with no apparent reason.


And then today, bove states . . . .

> On 8/6/2016 6:58 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
(snip)
> My neighbors don't do drugs. I know my neighbors. They're fine.
> These are people who don't live here that are coming into this area.
> Calling the police doesn't do any real good because it doesn't take
> long to buy drugs or do drugs or whatever they're doing and the
> people are always long gone before the law arrives. I do have pics of
> the one car. It was black then gray now white. Same car. I am not
> seeing it as often.

It seems bove simply cannot make up her mind. Which tale is true??
It's doubtful bove knows what the truth even is, since most of her
publicly shared 'experiences' in RFC appear to be of a fantastical
nature. As usual, one has to take whatever bove writes with much more
than a few grains of salt.

Sky

================================
Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
================================

On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>>> that happening anywhere.
>>
>> Agreed. This is bogus.
>
> I would think that most parents would report this typeof thing to
> Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the US).

18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
work if she doesn't want to.

I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
hovering.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>>>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>>>> that happening anywhere.
>>>
>>> Agreed. This is bogus.
>>
>> I would think that most parents would report this typeof thing to
>> Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the US).
>
> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
> work if she doesn't want to.

She was 17 at the time, but still...
>
> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
> hovering.

Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the register to
call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.

And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
late!" I don't think so.

I sure as hell don't hover.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>> work if she doesn't want to.
>
>She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>
>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>> hovering.
>
>Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the register to
>call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.
>
>And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
>you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
>late!" I don't think so.

LOL, why on earth not? Why would a customer care?
The Bothell phenomenon again, I guess.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:02:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>>news >>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved shipping
>>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck again.
>>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in
>>>>>this
>>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>>
>>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>>
>>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically the
>>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>>>company.
>>>>
>>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>>
>>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it almost
>>>12
>>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some of
>>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>>
>>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>>
>> LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
>> America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
>> is now worth 400K anyway... so you could pay similar on another place
>> anyway. Prices seem to be on par with Sydney. Anyway, I'm over the
>> topic for now.
>
>Yes, America's a big place. Do you really think we could just move to some
>other state? Do you really think we'd want to? And no, we could not pay
>similar on some other place. We can't pay any more than we do now and you
>can't really even rent a place for what we pay now. You're over the topic
>because I flat out proved you wrong.

Like hell I was. You've just worn me down with your endless denials
and excuses.

>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> I'm sure there are worse areas, but there is nothing that could compel
>>>> me to stay in an area such as you have described on RFC over the
>>>> years.
>>>
>>>Well, that's you. I wouldn't live where you do either. Doesn't sound at
>>>all
>>>appealing to me.
>>
>> No argument there, you'd have a nervous breakdown within a week and
>> all the women in the area would disown you instantly anyway, in all
>> seriousness. We have no crime to speak of and a community that helps
>> and looks out for each other. It's just horrible.
>
>Why would I have a nervous breakdown?

This is no place for a Princess and people here are much more grounded
and down to earth, that's why. Women here complain about losing power
or water, not about some store no longer stocking their favourite
diabetes enhancement fluids... or birds flying into shops, or bad men
with turbans, or whatever.

>And what does that mean that the women
>would disown me? No women own me here. Nobody does.

Oh god...

> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>
>> She was 17 at the time, but still...

She's at work. She's not 12, she doesn't need you hanging
over her, oh, she's late, what to do. I laugh at the thought
my parents would have been at home, wringing their hands,
work was over, where is she? They didn't do that when I
was 14 and had an after school job. Let her live her life
already.

>> And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
>> you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
>> late!" I don't think so.

If you were supposed to pick her up, she'd have to let you know
she wasn't coming out. Somehow she would manage.

Quit fixating on her, she'll text you on her way out if it's
that scary for you to think she can just come home when she
wants to without all the hand holding and drama.

nancy

Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>>>>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>>>>> that happening anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed. This is bogus.
>>>
>>> I would think that most parents would report this typeof thing to
>>> Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the US).
>>
>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>> work if she doesn't want to.
>
> She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>
>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>> hovering.
>
> Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the register to
> call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.
>
> And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
> you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
> late!" I don't think so.
>
> I sure as hell don't hover.
>
>

There's no reason the manager or supervisor couldn't call on her behalf.

--
jinx the minx

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>
>>She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>>
>>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>>> hovering.
>>
>>Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the register
>>to
>>call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.
>>
>>And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
>>you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
>>late!" I don't think so.
>
> LOL, why on earth not? Why would a customer care?
> The Bothell phenomenon again, I guess.

I'd care if I were the customer. If someone that to me, I'd walk out. You
would really be okay with the cashier doing this instead of waiting on you?
*Shakes head* Okay then. Whatev.

Now probably what the manager should have done was to call our house
himself. But he was a 16 year old kid. Do you think *he* would think to do
that? Probably not. It's all a moot point anyway. The entire staff there has
changed many times over and the place still sucks.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:34:20 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:31:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2016-08-07, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> paint, not even that expensive.
>>>
>>> Apparently, you haven't priced a gallon of paint, lately.
>>
>>It's not cheap!
>
>Agreed, paint ain't cheap.

I bought a one quart can of Rustoleum recently, $11+tx.
Yoose want to see pricy paint, check out brand name nail polish... no,
I don't paint my nails, I bought a bottle of white to touch up a piece
of molding on a wooden medicine chest that a cat chewed, Revlon/$6.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:46:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>>
>>>She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>>>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>>>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>>>> hovering.
>>>
>>>Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the register
>>>to
>>>call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.
>>>
>>>And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
>>>you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
>>>late!" I don't think so.
>>
>> LOL, why on earth not? Why would a customer care?
>> The Bothell phenomenon again, I guess.
>
>I'd care if I were the customer. If someone that to me, I'd walk out. You
>would really be okay with the cashier doing this instead of waiting on you?
>*Shakes head* Okay then. Whatev.

Yes, of course I would be fine with it. You really can't deal with a
20 second delay so a young person can let their parents know they are
working late? What an asshole you are.

>Now probably what the manager should have done was to call our house
>himself. But he was a 16 year old kid. Do you think *he* would think to do
>that? Probably not. It's all a moot point anyway. The entire staff there has
>changed many times over and the place still sucks.

Yeah, whatever.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

>>Why would I have a nervous breakdown?
>
> This is no place for a Princess and people here are much more grounded
> and down to earth, that's why. Women here complain about losing power
> or water, not about some store no longer stocking their favourite
> diabetes enhancement fluids... or birds flying into shops, or bad men
> with turbans, or whatever.

Really? Why would they complain about losing power or water? You'd think
they'd be used to that by now and know what to do. I do.

And what is a diabetes enhancement fluid?
>
>>And what does that mean that the women
>>would disown me? No women own me here. Nobody does.
>
> Oh god...

I'm an atheist.

"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>>>> current post because I've just been too busy. They wouldn't allow an
>>>>>> 18 year old to call home to say she has to work late? No fk'n way is
>>>>>> that happening anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. This is bogus.
>>>>
>>>> I would think that most parents would report this typeof thing to
>>>> Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the US).
>>>
>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>
>> She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>>
>>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>>> hovering.
>>
>> Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the register
>> to
>> call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.
>>
>> And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
>> you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
>> late!" I don't think so.
>>
>> I sure as hell don't hover.
>>
>>
>
> There's no reason the manager or supervisor couldn't call on her behalf.

I never met him but I've been told he was 16 and an idiot who never should
have been made manager.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:46:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>>>
>>>>She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>>>>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>>>>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>>>>> hovering.
>>>>
>>>>Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the
>>>>register
>>>>to
>>>>call or text? They were required to put their phones in a locker.
>>>>
>>>>And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier said to
>>>>you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell her that I'll be
>>>>late!" I don't think so.
>>>
>>> LOL, why on earth not? Why would a customer care?
>>> The Bothell phenomenon again, I guess.
>>
>>I'd care if I were the customer. If someone that to me, I'd walk out. You
>>would really be okay with the cashier doing this instead of waiting on
>>you?
>>*Shakes head* Okay then. Whatev.
>
> Yes, of course I would be fine with it. You really can't deal with a
> 20 second delay so a young person can let their parents know they are
> working late? What an asshole you are.

Things must be a lot different in Australia then. This place is what is
known as a fast food restaurant. People don't go there for the quality of
the food. They go there for the fast.
>
>>Now probably what the manager should have done was to call our house
>>himself. But he was a 16 year old kid. Do you think *he* would think to do
>>that? Probably not. It's all a moot point anyway. The entire staff there
>>has
>>changed many times over and the place still sucks.
>
> Yeah, whatever.

On 8/6/2016 10:58 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>
>>>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>>>
>>>> She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>
>> She's at work. She's not 12, she doesn't need you hanging
>> over her, oh, she's late, what to do. I laugh at the thought
>> my parents would have been at home, wringing their hands,
>> work was over, where is she? They didn't do that when I
>> was 14 and had an after school job. Let her live her life
>> already.
>
> What gives you the idea that I was hanging over her? I wasn't. I was at
> home and I never wring my hands nor do I sit around worrying about
> things.

But dad called her at work and you drove over there to see if
her car was still there.

> the beginning to stick it out, even though she disliked the job. But
> then she she asked me if she could quit, I felt that she had totally
> valid reasons for doing so. She went the exta mile for them many times,
> but was getting nothing back in return.

Probably everyone here's had a sucky job and had to learn to
deal with it or get out of it.

> I still can't see why anyone here would think they would allow her time
> off of the register to call home.

I don't know why she would have to.

>> If you were supposed to pick her up, she'd have to let you know
>> she wasn't coming out. Somehow she would manage.
>
> Nobody was picking her up. She has had her own car for two years now.

Do you see the word If? I said IF you had to pick her up, she'd
have to let you know. So somehow it would be possible.

>> Quit fixating on her, she'll text you on her way out if it's
>> that scary for you to think she can just come home when she
>> wants to without all the hand holding and drama.
>
> *I'm* not fixated on her. I can't even say why you would say such a
> thing.

All you ever talk about boils down to you doing everything for
her because she can't or won't do it for herself.

> You seem to be making things up. You people here are the ones
> causing drama with your lala land where people can have jobs where they
> can just use the phone and text whenever they feel like it.

We're the ones who held down jobs and managed our work life without
our parents getting involved. A lot of us probably at an age
much younger than 17.

nancy

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:32:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>news >>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>
>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved shipping
>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck again.
>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>
>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in this
>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>
>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>
>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically the
>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>>company.
>>>
>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>
>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it almost 12
>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some of
>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>
>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>
>LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
>America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
>is now worth 400K anyway...

That tiny house on that tiny lot... the Bove's house would be barely
worth $75,000 where I live in the northern Catskills.... if it had a
few acres it would qualify as a hunters cabin. I don't believe that
house would sell for $400,000... the most any realtor would list it
for is $100,000, and it would sell for under $75,000. How the Bove
describes it (trashed) I doubt it's salable. To me a slab house in
any location is worth $ZERO... on a tiny lot like the Boves, it's a
liability, it's totally worthless... I wouldn't pay 5¢ for it... I
just paid $10,000 to have a much better house in a far better location
on seven very private acres demolished.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/6/2016 10:58 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:26:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's her
>>>>>> job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home after
>>>>>> work if she doesn't want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>>
>>> She's at work. She's not 12, she doesn't need you hanging
>>> over her, oh, she's late, what to do. I laugh at the thought
>>> my parents would have been at home, wringing their hands,
>>> work was over, where is she? They didn't do that when I
>>> was 14 and had an after school job. Let her live her life
>>> already.
>>
>> What gives you the idea that I was hanging over her? I wasn't. I was at
>> home and I never wring my hands nor do I sit around worrying about
>> things.
>
> But dad called her at work and you drove over there to see if
> her car was still there.
>
>> the beginning to stick it out, even though she disliked the job. But
>> then she she asked me if she could quit, I felt that she had totally
>> valid reasons for doing so. She went the exta mile for them many times,
>> but was getting nothing back in return.
>
> Probably everyone here's had a sucky job and had to learn to
> deal with it or get out of it.
>
>> I still can't see why anyone here would think they would allow her time
>> off of the register to call home.
>
> I don't know why she would have to.

You're missing my point! I didn't say she should have to. But it was her
first day of work and they kept her for far longer than her scheduled shift.
My husband was freaking out when she didn't come home. So when he called to
find out if she was still at work, she got in trouble for it. She was also
told that she was not allowed to call prior to her shift to see if the
needed her or not. This had been my suggestion. I felt it was very wrong of
them to keep expecting her to show up for work just in case she was needed.

She did everything that was expected of her and yet they showed her no
consideration whatever. But it was not just her. It was everyone who worked
there. Which is why she quit that job.
>
>>> If you were supposed to pick her up, she'd have to let you know
>>> she wasn't coming out. Somehow she would manage.
>>
>> Nobody was picking her up. She has had her own car for two years now.
>
> Do you see the word If? I said IF you had to pick her up, she'd
> have to let you know. So somehow it would be possible.

Why are you dreaming things up? I don't sit around playing what ifs. But I
do know someone who loves that game. I could hook you up if you'd like.
>
>>> Quit fixating on her, she'll text you on her way out if it's
>>> that scary for you to think she can just come home when she
>>> wants to without all the hand holding and drama.
>>
>> *I'm* not fixated on her. I can't even say why you would say such a
>> thing.
>
> All you ever talk about boils down to you doing everything for
> her because she can't or won't do it for herself.

What? What did I do for her with this job? Nothing. Except to loan her a
pair of my shoes because she didn't have any black ones and the ones she was
required to mail order hadn't arrived yet. I never suggested that she work
there. That was her thing. She had said repeatedly that she didn't want to
work with food, then asked if she could take the job. *shrugs* I figured at
that point, any job was better than no job but since it turned out not to be
an actual paying job, then no bueno. Would be different it were a volunteer
thing but it wasn't.
>
> > You seem to be making things up. You people here are the ones
>> causing drama with your lala land where people can have jobs where they
>> can just use the phone and text whenever they feel like it.
>
> We're the ones who held down jobs and managed our work life without
> our parents getting involved. A lot of us probably at an age
> much younger than 17.

And just where exactly did I get involved in this? Except to tell her that
she should call to see if she was needed instead of repeatedly showing up
for work and being sent home.

On 8/6/2016 7:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/6/2016 7:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Food talk is maybe half and half here. Boring food-only posters
>>>>> moved to
>>>>> Facebook. Good riddance. The diversity here in RFC keeps it alive.
>>>>> Look
>>>>> at other ngs. Look at the posting numbers.
>>>>
>>>> Julie responses keeps this place going on most days, without Julie the
>>>> numbers would be dismal.
>>>
>>> Well, I am glad that I have some use. I could tell an amusing story of
>>> what happened at Winco today but I won't. People will just say that
>>> stuff like that only happens in Bothell, even though Winco isn't in
>>> Bothell, or that I made it up. So...
>>>
>>> I am not cooking today. I did make fruit salad. Yummy, yummy! I am not
>>> sure where hubby is. I presume at Seafair or the Mariners or some such
>>> thing. And Angela is on her friend's boat. So for the time being, I have
>>> peace. I have leftover au jus and beef so I can make myself a French Dip
>>> if I decide that I want that. I also have some leftover fresh pasta so I
>>> could go that route too.
>>
>> Really and truly, that's good. A choice of food YOU want to eat. And
>> some peace and quiet.
>
> Well, it didn't last. He actually called here asking for dinner as I was
> typing that out. He got a premade, stuffed chicken breast from Costco,
> peas, homemade honey whole wheat rolls and butter and a big bowl of
> fruit salad. I have three more of the chicken breasts. They are stuffed
> with quinoa and Mediterranean veggies. But they have feta in them so I
> can't eat them.

Couldn't the stuffing and feta cheese be removed before consuming the
chicken breast? Seems a simple remedy.

And, one can't help but wonder why bove's spouse cannot put his own
dinner together, especially on a weekend? Is he that completely
helpless? Or, is bove there only to cater to each and every one of his
whims and appetites on demand? Only curious.

Sky

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On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 23:27:11 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:32:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>>news >>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved shipping
>>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck again.
>>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in this
>>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>>
>>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>>
>>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically the
>>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>>>company.
>>>>
>>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>>
>>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it almost 12
>>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some of
>>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>>
>>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>>
>>LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
>>America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
>>is now worth 400K anyway...
>
>That tiny house on that tiny lot... the Bove's house would be barely
>worth $75,000 where I live in the northern Catskills.... if it had a
>few acres it would qualify as a hunters cabin. I don't believe that
>house would sell for $400,000... the most any realtor would list it
>for is $100,000, and it would sell for under $75,000. How the Bove
>describes it (trashed) I doubt it's salable. To me a slab house in
>any location is worth $ZERO... on a tiny lot like the Boves, it's a
>liability, it's totally worthless... I wouldn't pay 5¢ for it...

Well, it's still a home and better than nothing. It is Julie's ongoing
complaints and description of the area she lives in that would stop me
living there. Well, I wouldn't live in a built up high density area of
any sort anyway, so...

>I just paid $10,000 to have a much better house in a far better location
>on seven very private acres demolished.

It might have been better to burn the house and then claim insurance?

On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 22:49:22 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:34:20 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:31:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 2016-08-07, > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> paint, not even that expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, you haven't priced a gallon of paint, lately.
>>>
>>>It's not cheap!
>>
>>Agreed, paint ain't cheap.
>
>I bought a one quart can of Rustoleum recently, $11+tx.
>Yoose want to see pricy paint, check out brand name nail polish... no,
>I don't paint my nails, I bought a bottle of white to touch up a piece
>of molding on a wooden medicine chest that a cat chewed, Revlon/$6.

Nail polish certainly works out the be expensive. When I resprayed one
of my 4X4s a year or so ago, it ended up costing me about $1500 all
up, and that's just basic materials like primer, acetone and the paint
itself.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 23:27:11 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:32:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved
>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>>>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>>>
>>>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically
>>>>the
>>>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>>>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>>>>company.
>>>>>
>>>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>>>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it
>>>>almost 12
>>>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some
>>>>of
>>>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>>>
>>>LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
>>>America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
>>>is now worth 400K anyway...
>>
>>That tiny house on that tiny lot... the Bove's house would be barely
>>worth $75,000 where I live in the northern Catskills.... if it had a
>>few acres it would qualify as a hunters cabin. I don't believe that
>>house would sell for $400,000... the most any realtor would list it
>>for is $100,000, and it would sell for under $75,000. How the Bove
>>describes it (trashed) I doubt it's salable. To me a slab house in
>>any location is worth $ZERO... on a tiny lot like the Boves, it's a
>>liability, it's totally worthless... I wouldn't pay 5¢ for it...
>
> Well, it's still a home and better than nothing. It is Julie's ongoing
> complaints and description of the area she lives in that would stop me
> living there. Well, I wouldn't live in a built up high density area of
> any sort anyway, so...
>
>>I just paid $10,000 to have a much better house in a far better location
>>on seven very private acres demolished.
>
> It might have been better to burn the house and then claim insurance?

My house is not trashed nor is it a slab house.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 21:27:31 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 23:27:11 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:32:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>news >>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved
>>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I said
>>>>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must have
>>>>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>>>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>>>>
>>>>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically
>>>>>the
>>>>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little. My
>>>>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a moving
>>>>>company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>>>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend that
>>>>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>>>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it
>>>>>almost 12
>>>>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>>>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make some
>>>>>of
>>>>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>>>>
>>>>LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
>>>>America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
>>>>is now worth 400K anyway...
>>>
>>>That tiny house on that tiny lot... the Bove's house would be barely
>>>worth $75,000 where I live in the northern Catskills.... if it had a
>>>few acres it would qualify as a hunters cabin. I don't believe that
>>>house would sell for $400,000... the most any realtor would list it
>>>for is $100,000, and it would sell for under $75,000. How the Bove
>>>describes it (trashed) I doubt it's salable. To me a slab house in
>>>any location is worth $ZERO... on a tiny lot like the Boves, it's a
>>>liability, it's totally worthless... I wouldn't pay 5¢ for it...
>>
>> Well, it's still a home and better than nothing. It is Julie's ongoing
>> complaints and description of the area she lives in that would stop me
>> living there. Well, I wouldn't live in a built up high density area of
>> any sort anyway, so...
>>
>>>I just paid $10,000 to have a much better house in a far better location
>>>on seven very private acres demolished.
>>
>> It might have been better to burn the house and then claim insurance?
>
>My house is not trashed nor is it a slab house.

I never said it was.

In article >,
says...

Bitch, bitch, bitch...

On 8/6/2016 10:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 8/6/2016 9:53 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:04:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>>> current post because I've just been too busy. They
>>>>>>> wouldn't allow an 18 year old to call home to say she has
>>>>>>> to work late? No fk'n way is that happening anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed. This is bogus.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think that most parents would report this typeof
>>>>> thing to Employment Standards (or whatever it's called in the
>>>>> US).
>>>>
>>>> 18 is an adult, if she has something to complain about, it's
>>>> her job to take care of it. She's even allowed to not go home
>>>> after work if she doesn't want to.
>>>
>>> She was 17 at the time, but still...
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe she was not permitted to call or text to say
>>>> she was going to be working late, what if someone was supposed
>>>> to pick her up. Maybe she says that to keep her parents from
>>>> hovering.
>>>
>>> Nonsense. Do you seriously think they would allow her off of the
>>> register to call or text? They were required to put their phones
>>> in a locker.
>>>
>>> And if you were the customer? What would you do if the cashier
>>> said to you... "Excuse me. I just have to call my mom and tell
>>> her that I'll be late!" I don't think so.
>>>
>>> I sure as hell don't hover.
>>
>> There's no reason the manager or supervisor couldn't call on her
>> behalf.
>>
> I never met him but I've been told he was 16 and an idiot who never
> should have been made manager.

Bove has now mentioned at least thrice that where angela sporadically
worked, its so-called "manager" is/was a 16-year old kid. Something is
especially wrong with this 'scenerio', and it seems to be quite
questionable? What company any where (in the USA) would allow a
non-adult (under 18!) to be responsible for the entire place with no
adult supervision!!?? Somehow, this seems to be to be a matter of gross
liability should something awful happen (robbery, murder, theft, etc.)
while this under-age "manager" was in charge. Yet another 'story' from
bove.

If my child had ever been unable to contact me while at work because
calls were not allowed to phone home, I'd have a huge hissy fit and
politely confront the owner and/or adult management to let them know of
my extreme dissatisfaction and concerns for the personal safety of my
child! Not to mention, I'd inform them how they'd be legally
responsible should anything happen. Bove seems to be the exception to
the rule, but perhaps this is only particular to that finite bubble of
unreality in bothell.

Sky

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 21:27:31 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 23:27:11 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:32:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:15:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
t...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:48:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>newsokcqb1vejfir8bhigvrt37n3an8huqpni@j. net...
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 05:39:54 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 8/3/2016 3:43 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I know it's a big upheaval, but why not move? The way you have
>>>>>>>>>>> described where you live here makes it sounds like an awful
>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Moving is not always an economical option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If by that you mean it costs money, sure. I've done it many times
>>>>>>>>> myself, the last time cost me about $18000, but that involved
>>>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>>>> containers plus a car transported by truck, boat and then truck
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>> I think just bringing Annie here cost about $1000. Anyway, as I
>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>> before, it's just a matter of planning ahead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It would cost a hell of a lot more than that to move here. Houses in
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>area start at around $500,000.00 and you don't get much for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <rolls eyes> I was talking about *moving costs*. You surely must
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> known that. And wouldn't moving and yet staying in the same area
>>>>>>> defeat the hypothetical purpose we are discussing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gee... What area would you suggest? One with higher crime? Technically
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>moving of things from one spot to another would cost me very little.
>>>>>>My
>>>>>>nephew has a truck and his friend and the friend's brother have a
>>>>>>moving
>>>>>>company.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And $500,000.00 hey? U.S real estate is much, much cheaper than in
>>>>>>> Australia and yet people here can move, why do you need to spend
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> much on a house? Did you spend or have your current house valued at
>>>>>>> $500,000.00? I call bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Zillow lists this house at very close to $400,000.00. We bought it
>>>>>>almost 12
>>>>>>years ago for just over $250,000.00. Oh and here's a Zillow listing of
>>>>>>houses for sale. Read it and eat your bullshit. Maybe you can make
>>>>>>some
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>Jill's Asiago dip to make it go down better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.zillow.com/bothell-wa/?ut...ampaign =serp
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL, Bothell again. Why do you only select the expensive locations?
>>>>>America is a large place. Never mind that you just claimed your house
>>>>>is now worth 400K anyway...
>>>>
>>>>That tiny house on that tiny lot... the Bove's house would be barely
>>>>worth $75,000 where I live in the northern Catskills.... if it had a
>>>>few acres it would qualify as a hunters cabin. I don't believe that
>>>>house would sell for $400,000... the most any realtor would list it
>>>>for is $100,000, and it would sell for under $75,000. How the Bove
>>>>describes it (trashed) I doubt it's salable. To me a slab house in
>>>>any location is worth $ZERO... on a tiny lot like the Boves, it's a
>>>>liability, it's totally worthless... I wouldn't pay 5¢ for it...
>>>
>>> Well, it's still a home and better than nothing. It is Julie's ongoing
>>> complaints and description of the area she lives in that would stop me
>>> living there. Well, I wouldn't live in a built up high density area of
>>> any sort anyway, so...
>>>
>>>>I just paid $10,000 to have a much better house in a far better location
>>>>on seven very private acres demolished.
>>>
>>> It might have been better to burn the house and then claim insurance?
>>
>>My house is not trashed nor is it a slab house.
>
> I never said it was.

I know. But the person who said it is in my KF.