Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high heat
today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was lost
in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant that serves
food and sells board games said that he reported something around 2:30 a.m.
They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go home. Said he
smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.

We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for about
5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and much damage
to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was hurt. All we know is
that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished apartment complex.
They say it could take weeks to months to find out the cause, if they ever
do.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139

At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not hot
either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So... Tonight's the
night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for later.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:42:02 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
>green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not hot
>either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So... Tonight's the
>night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for later.

Dinner tonight here will be simple, just a porterhouse steak, an
avocado, onion and tomato, most likely.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:42:02 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
>>green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not
>>hot
>>either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So... Tonight's the
>>night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for later.
>
> Dinner tonight here will be simple, just a porterhouse steak, an
> avocado, onion and tomato, most likely.

Okay.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high heat
> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant that
> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something around
> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go home.
> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
>
> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was hurt.
> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished
> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find out the
> cause, if they ever do.
>
> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
>
> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not
> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So... Tonight's
> the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for later.

That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at least,
and your dinner sounds good.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high heat
>> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
>> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant that
>> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something around
>> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go home.
>> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
>>
>> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
>> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
>> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was hurt.
>> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished
>> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find out the
>> cause, if they ever do.
>>
>> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
>>
>> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
>> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not
>> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
>> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for
>> later.
>
> That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at
> least, and your dinner sounds good.

Thanks! Alas, somebody just posted to FB that a tree caught fire from a
smoldering ember. The fire isn't totally out. No leftovers on dinner.
Everyone ate their portion. That ought to tick people off here.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high heat
>> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
>> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant that
>> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something around
>> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go home.
>> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
>>
>> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
>> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
>> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was hurt.
>> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished
>> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find out the
>> cause, if they ever do.
>>
>> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
>>
>> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
>> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not
>> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
>> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for
>> later.
>
> That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at
> least, and your dinner sounds good.

Scary. I've never heard of cars melting before!


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high heat
>>> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
>>> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant that
>>> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something around
>>> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go home.
>>> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
>>>
>>> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
>>> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
>>> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was
>>> hurt. All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not
>>> finished apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to
>>> find out the cause, if they ever do.
>>>
>>> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
>>>
>>> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
>>> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not
>>> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
>>> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for
>>> later.
>>
>> That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at
>> least, and your dinner sounds good.
>
> Scary. I've never heard of cars melting before!

I hadn't either. I have pics on my FB feed but it's a closed community group
so I can't post a link to them. But it does make sense as much of the car's
body is no longer metal.

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 9:44:54 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high heat
> >> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
> >> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant that
> >> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something around
> >> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go home.
> >> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
> >>
> >> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
> >> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
> >> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was hurt.
> >> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished
> >> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find out the
> >> cause, if they ever do.
> >>
> >> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
> >>
> >> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion and
> >> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but not
> >> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
> >> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for
> >> later.
> >
> > That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at
> > least, and your dinner sounds good.
>
> Scary. I've never heard of cars melting before!
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

That's rather odd - the Brits are at the cutting edge in car melting technology.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/03/world/...ing-melts-car/

"Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
email.me:

> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
heat
> today.

I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
miserable.

No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
thermometers agree.


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You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 9:44:54 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>> >> heat
>> >> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
>> >> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant
>> >> that
>> >> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something
>> >> around
>> >> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go
>> >> home.
>> >> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
>> >>
>> >> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
>> >> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
>> >> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was
>> >> hurt.
>> >> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished
>> >> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find out
>> >> the
>> >> cause, if they ever do.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
>> >>
>> >> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion
>> >> and
>> >> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but
>> >> not
>> >> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
>> >> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for
>> >> later.
>> >
>> > That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at
>> > least, and your dinner sounds good.
>>
>> Scary. I've never heard of cars melting before!
>>
>
> That's rather odd - the Brits are at the cutting edge in car melting
> technology.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/03/world/...ing-melts-car/

There you go then! No good asking me what is the new trend here ... ;-)



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On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
> heat
> > today.
>
> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
> here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
> miserable.
>
> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> thermometers agree.
>
Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more moisture into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would experience less discomfort.
====

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:33:20 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
> > email.me:
> >
> > > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
> > heat
> > > today.
> >
> > I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
> > AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> > returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
> > here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
> > consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
> > 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
> > 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> > happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
> > same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> > newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
> > air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
> > miserable.
> >
> > No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> > thermometers agree.
> >
> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more moisture into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would experience less discomfort.
> ====

It depends. My in-law's cooler works swell in Oroville CA. That place is a tinderbox on the verge of exploding i.e., very dry. For them, the summer will probably be a long one.

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:40:50 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1ahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 9:44:54 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
> >> >> heat
> >> >> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it was
> >> >> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant
> >> >> that
> >> >> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something
> >> >> around
> >> >> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go
> >> >> home.
> >> >> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
> >> >>
> >> >> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much for
> >> >> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall and
> >> >> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was
> >> >> hurt.
> >> >> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not finished
> >> >> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find out
> >> >> the
> >> >> cause, if they ever do.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
> >> >>
> >> >> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion
> >> >> and
> >> >> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but
> >> >> not
> >> >> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
> >> >> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad for
> >> >> later.
> >> >
> >> > That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt at
> >> > least, and your dinner sounds good.
> >>
> >> Scary. I've never heard of cars melting before!
> >>
> >
> > That's rather odd - the Brits are at the cutting edge in car melting
> > technology.
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/03/world/...ing-melts-car/
>
> There you go then! No good asking me what is the new trend here ... ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Buildings with a mirrored concave parabolic surface are not a good idea - they are certainly pretty though. The 30 St Mary Axe building is a design that's pretty and it won't hurt cars - unless they crash into it.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
>> email.me:
>>
>> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>> heat
>> > today.
>>
>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
>> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
>> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
>> here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
>> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
>> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
>> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
>> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
>> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
>> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
>> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
>> miserable.
>>
>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>> thermometers agree.
>>
> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more moisture
> into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would experience
> less discomfort.
> ====

They work quite well in a dry climate.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:40:50 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1ahoo.com> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 9:44:54 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>> >> >> heat
>> >> >> today. Except perhaps for downtown Bothell where sadly, much of it
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> lost in the wee hours to fire. The owner of a fairly new restaurant
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> serves food and sells board games said that he reported something
>> >> >> around
>> >> >> 2:30 a.m. They are open until midnight and he was closing up to go
>> >> >> home.
>> >> >> Said he smelled smoke but at first, nobody could find the source.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We still don't know the particulars except that it wiped out much
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> about 5-7 blocks. Two restaurants, at least one bank, a small mall
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> much damage to vegetation and cars. They melted. Luckily nobody was
>> >> >> hurt.
>> >> >> All we know is that it started in a newly remodeled but not
>> >> >> finished
>> >> >> apartment complex. They say it could take weeks to months to find
>> >> >> out
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> cause, if they ever do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.king5.com/news/local/mass...hell/279666139
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At any rate, tonight's dinner is hamburger gravy with celery, onion
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> green pepper over mashed potatoes. It's not exactly chilly here but
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> hot either and we are expected to have hot weather coming. So...
>> >> >> Tonight's the night for hot food. Got pasta salad and fruit salad
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> later.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's too bad about the fire, but it is good that nobody was hurt
>> >> > at
>> >> > least, and your dinner sounds good.
>> >>
>> >> Scary. I've never heard of cars melting before!
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's rather odd - the Brits are at the cutting edge in car melting
>> > technology.
>> >
>> > http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/03/world/...ing-melts-car/
>>
>> There you go then! No good asking me what is the new trend here ... ;-)
>>
>
> Buildings with a mirrored concave parabolic surface are not a good idea -
> they are certainly pretty though. The 30 St Mary Axe building is a design
> that's pretty and it won't hurt cars - unless they crash into it.

Hmmmm yes, that could cause a few headaches.


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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> > news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont- email.me:
> >
> > > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the
> > > high
> > heat
> > > today.
> >
> > I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
> > 100K+ AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115.
> > Then it returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while
> > low teens. Out here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles
> > west of town, it's consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs
> > since then. They report 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115.
> > Yesterday it was 113 there, 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to
> > last all summer. This has never happened before - the temperature
> > in both places was always close to the same. Must be a very local
> > phenomena, I've seen no mention in the newspaper. My usual source
> > of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot air - the water in
> > it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very miserable.
> >
> > No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> > thermometers agree.
> >
> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more
> moisture into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would
> experience less discomfort. ====


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler

Suspect it's too damp where he is.

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On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
> heat
> > today.
>
> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
> here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
> miserable.
>
> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> thermometers agree.
>
>
> --
> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
> when something closes the door from the inside.

Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked at.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:33:20 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
>> > email.me:
>> >
>> > > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>> > heat
>> > > today.
>> >
>> > I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>> > 100K+
>> > AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
>> > returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
>> > here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
>> > consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They
>> > report
>> > 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
>> > 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
>> > happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to
>> > the
>> > same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
>> > newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows
>> > hot
>> > air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange,
>> > Very
>> > miserable.
>> >
>> > No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>> > thermometers agree.
>> >
>> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more moisture
>> into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would experience
>> less discomfort.
>> ====
>
> It depends. My in-law's cooler works swell in Oroville CA. That place is a
> tinderbox on the verge of exploding i.e., very dry. For them, the summer
> will probably be a long one.

Works well here too. The added moisture in the air is refreshing.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
>> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
>> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
>> here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
>> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
>> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
>> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
>> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
>> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
>> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
>> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
>> miserable.
>>
>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>> thermometers agree.
>
>Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked at.

I was about to say it must be high in humdity in AZ (which renders
evap coolers useless) but I just checked the weather and humidity is
only 16% ATM, so it's not that.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...DMns0ATF656IBw

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 1:19:09 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> >> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The 100K+
> >> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> >> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
> >> here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
> >> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
> >> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
> >> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> >> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
> >> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> >> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot
> >> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very
> >> miserable.
> >>
> >> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> >> thermometers agree.
> >
> >Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked at.
>
> I was about to say it must be high in humdity in AZ (which renders
> evap coolers useless) but I just checked the weather and humidity is
> only 16% ATM, so it's not that.
> https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...DMns0ATF656IBw

If I was in most parts of Arizona, I'd sure have a swamp cooler. Under the right conditions, they work amazingly well and use 75% less energy than refrigerant cooling.

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 4:34:50 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:33:20 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> >> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
> >> > email.me:
> >> >
> >> > > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
> >> > heat
> >> > > today.
> >> >
> >> > I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
> >> > 100K+
> >> > AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> >> > returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
> >> > here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
> >> > consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They
> >> > report
> >> > 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
> >> > 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> >> > happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to
> >> > the
> >> > same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> >> > newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows
> >> > hot
> >> > air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange,
> >> > Very
> >> > miserable.
> >> >
> >> > No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> >> > thermometers agree.
> >> >
> >> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more moisture
> >> into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would experience
> >> less discomfort.
> >> ====
> >
> > It depends. My in-law's cooler works swell in Oroville CA. That place is a
> > tinderbox on the verge of exploding i.e., very dry. For them, the summer
> > will probably be a long one.
>
> Works well here too. The added moisture in the air is refreshing.

I'll take your word for it.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>>> 100K+
>>> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
>>> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
>>> here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
>>> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
>>> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
>>> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
>>> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
>>> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
>>> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows
>>> hot
>>> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange,
>>> Very
>>> miserable.
>>>
>>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>>> thermometers agree.
>>
>>Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not
>>turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked at.
>
> I was about to say it must be high in humdity in AZ (which renders
> evap coolers useless) but I just checked the weather and humidity is
> only 16% ATM, so it's not that.
> https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...DMns0ATF656IBw

My old one quit blowing the water out. Not sure why. Worked like a fan but
the water was never getting onto the cooling pad.

On 7/23/2016 7:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:33:20 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
>>> > email.me:
>>> >
>>> > > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>>> > heat
>>> > > today.
>>> >
>>> > I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>>> > 100K+
>>> > AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
>>> > returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens.
>>> Out
>>> > here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
>>> > consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They >
>>> report
>>> > 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113
>>> there,
>>> > 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
>>> > happened before - the temperature in both places was always close
>>> to > the
>>> > same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
>>> > newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just
>>> blows > hot
>>> > air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very
>>> strange, > Very
>>> > miserable.
>>> >
>>> > No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>>> > thermometers agree.
>>> >
>>> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more
>>> moisture into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would
>>> experience less discomfort.
>>> ====
>>
>> It depends. My in-law's cooler works swell in Oroville CA. That place
>> is a tinderbox on the verge of exploding i.e., very dry. For them, the
>> summer will probably be a long one.
>
> Works well here too. The added moisture in the air is refreshing.

Moisture is not refreshing when it's 100 degrees in the house.

Jill

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 10:03:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> >>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
> >>> 100K+
> >>> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> >>> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens. Out
> >>> here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
> >>> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They report
> >>> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113 there,
> >>> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> >>> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to the
> >>> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> >>> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows
> >>> hot
> >>> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange,
> >>> Very
> >>> miserable.
> >>>
> >>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> >>> thermometers agree.
> >>
> >>Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not
> >>turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked at.
> >
> > I was about to say it must be high in humdity in AZ (which renders
> > evap coolers useless) but I just checked the weather and humidity is
> > only 16% ATM, so it's not that.
> > https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...DMns0ATF656IBw
>
> My old one quit blowing the water out. Not sure why. Worked like a fan but
> the water was never getting onto the cooling pad.

Does nothing ever work in your house? From door locks to garage door openers...nothing but problems it seems.
Maybe you need a maintenance man to go along with the gardener/grounds keeper.
====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 10:03:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> >>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
> >>> 100K+
> >>> AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
> >>> returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens.
> >>> Out
> >>> here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of town, it's
> >>> consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They
> >>> report
> >>> 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113
> >>> there,
> >>> 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
> >>> happened before - the temperature in both places was always close to
> >>> the
> >>> same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
> >>> newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows
> >>> hot
> >>> air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange,
> >>> Very
> >>> miserable.
> >>>
> >>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> >>> thermometers agree.
> >>
> >>Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not
> >>turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked
> >>at.
> >
> > I was about to say it must be high in humdity in AZ (which renders
> > evap coolers useless) but I just checked the weather and humidity is
> > only 16% ATM, so it's not that.
> > https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...DMns0ATF656IBw
>
> My old one quit blowing the water out. Not sure why. Worked like a fan but
> the water was never getting onto the cooling pad.

Does nothing ever work in your house? From door locks to garage door
openers...nothing but problems it seems.
Maybe you need a maintenance man to go along with the gardener/grounds
keeper.
====

I don't have a gardener and never had a grounds keeper. What I have now is a
handy man. He does it all.

At one point, Zillow assigned numbers to houses in terms of quality of
construction. They no longer do. Used to be 1 being the worst and 10 being
the best. Mine was 4 as was my friend's in Shoreline. My parent's and bro's
were a 6. I kept plugging random addresses in until I found some 10's. None
in this area. I did find a very few in Seattle. Huge places. Likely custom
built. And 4 was the worst that I ever saw listed.

Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked at got
very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed ones. Those who
got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine worked well only a very
few times. I doubt that I will buy another. Unless someone manages to make
one that isn't prone to problems.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2016 7:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 8:33:20 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>>>> > news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont-
>>>> > email.me:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>>>> > heat
>>>> > > today.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>>>> > 100K+
>>>> > AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115. Then it
>>>> > returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low teens.
>>>> Out
>>>> > here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of town, it's
>>>> > consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since then. They >
>>>> report
>>>> > 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115. Yesterday it was 113
>>>> there,
>>>> > 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to last all summer. This has never
>>>> > happened before - the temperature in both places was always close
>>>> to > the
>>>> > same. Must be a very local phenomena, I've seen no mention in the
>>>> > newspaper. My usual source of cooling, evaporative cooler, just
>>>> blows > hot
>>>> > air - the water in it nust be too hot to cool the air. Very
>>>> strange, > Very
>>>> > miserable.
>>>> >
>>>> > No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>>>> > thermometers agree.
>>>> >
>>>> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more
>>>> moisture into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would
>>>> experience less discomfort.
>>>> ====
>>>
>>> It depends. My in-law's cooler works swell in Oroville CA. That place
>>> is a tinderbox on the verge of exploding i.e., very dry. For them, the
>>> summer will probably be a long one.
>>
>> Works well here too. The added moisture in the air is refreshing.
>
> Moisture is not refreshing when it's 100 degrees in the house.

Yes it is! I don't like dried out skin and eyes.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked at got
> very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed ones. Those who
> got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine worked well only a very
> few times. I doubt that I will buy another. Unless someone manages to make
> one that isn't prone to problems.

Ok Julie. I think I have the perfect solution.
Actually I have 2 solutions. First one is to buy an air conditioner.
It doesn't have to be a whole house one, just small enough to take
off the heat and humidity.

Here's a replacement for your expensive swamp coolers.
The theory is to add moisture into a hot dry environmenr, rigth"

Here's my plan. You said one of your freezers only contains blue ice
things.

Put two of them in a shallow container, a 9X13 baking dish or even a
cookie sheet with sides. Put a small fan to blow right across them. As
the blue ice warms, it will sweat. With the low humidity, the fan
blowing across them will help to add moisture to your air and it will
be cold air too. This will work. Every hour or two replace the blue ice
with more from your freezer full. Rotate your blue ice.

Now it's your turn. Tell me why this won't work.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked at
>> got
>> very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed ones. Those
>> who
>> got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine worked well only a
>> very
>> few times. I doubt that I will buy another. Unless someone manages to
>> make
>> one that isn't prone to problems.
>
> Ok Julie. I think I have the perfect solution.
> Actually I have 2 solutions. First one is to buy an air conditioner.
> It doesn't have to be a whole house one, just small enough to take
> off the heat and humidity.

Take off *what* humidity? You still don't get it. Why do you think I bought
the swamp coolers? To add humidity to the dry air.
>
> Here's a replacement for your expensive swamp coolers.
> The theory is to add moisture into a hot dry environmenr, rigth"

They do. This is why I bought them and compared to AC, they were not
expensive. This is all a moot point. Even if I did want AC, I flat out have
no money to buy it.
>
> Here's my plan. You said one of your freezers only contains blue ice
> things.
>
> Put two of them in a shallow container, a 9X13 baking dish or even a
> cookie sheet with sides. Put a small fan to blow right across them. As
> the blue ice warms, it will sweat. With the low humidity, the fan
> blowing across them will help to add moisture to your air and it will
> be cold air too. This will work. Every hour or two replace the blue ice
> with more from your freezer full. Rotate your blue ice.

No. Why? That stuff is there for medical reasons and is frequently being
used for that. We have four people in the house right now. Normal summer
temps. No one is suffering. I have no clue why you want us to have AC right
now. As for the fan and ice thing, I have tried it and it doesn't work any
better than just a fan.

> Now it's your turn. Tell me why this won't work.

Sorry. I never made it past high chemistry. But I can tell you that it
doesn't work. I have tried it. Many years ago.

Roy > wrote in
:

> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont- email.me:
>>
>> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>> heat
>> > today.
>>
>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>> 100K+ AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115.
>> Then it returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low
>> teens. Out here in the farmland where I live, about 2 miles west of
>> town, it's consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since
>> then. They report 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115.
>> Yesterday it was 113 there, 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to
>> last all summer. This has never happened before - the temperature in
>> both places was always close to the same. Must be a very local
>> phenomena, I've seen no mention in the newspaper. My usual source of
>> cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot air - the water in it
>> nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very miserable.
>>
>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>> thermometers agree.
>>
> Evaporator coolers compound the problem by releasing even more
> moisture into the air. If you had a proper air conditioner you would
> experience less discomfort. ====

In past years the swamp cooler worked fime as long as the humidy wasn't
too high. I've used one for decades. But in this case, extremely unusual
125+ temps, no help. Guess that's not what they were designed for.

--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

dsi1 > wrote in
:

> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont- email.me:
>>
>> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>> heat
>> > today.
>>
>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>> 100K+ AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115.
>> Then it returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low
>> teens. Out here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of
>> town, it's consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since
>> then. They report 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115.
>> Yesterday it was 113 there, 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to
>> last all summer. This has never happened before - the temperature in
>> both places was always close to the same. Must be a very local
>> phenomena, I've seen no mention in the newspaper. My usual source of
>> cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot air - the water in it
>> nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very miserable.
>>
>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>> thermometers agree.
>>
>>
>> --
>> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
>> when something closes the door from the inside.
>
> Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not
> turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked
> at.


First thing I look at. Plenty of water Pump working fine. Water lines to
pads clear. Pads nice and wet.

--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked
> at got very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed
> ones. Those who got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine
> worked well only a very few times. I doubt that I will buy another.
> Unless someone manages to make one that isn't prone to problems.
>

I've had good luck with all mine over the past 30 - 40 years. Never
bother to look them up - just buy what the installer sells. But you have
to tinker with them. Be sure the lines from the water distributer hub
through the lines to the pads ("spider") are all working right. Things
get plugged up, especially with very hard well water like I have. Have to
be sure the pump is working, that the mesh water filter around pump is
not plugged up. And of course that the water feed to the cooler is
working right and the float valve in the cooler is allowing water to flow
into the cooler.

Sounds like a lot of trouble but usually there are few problems. Easy to
fix things yourself, no expensive A/C servicing bill.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> dsi1 > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>>> news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont- email.me:
>>>
>>> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
>>> heat
>>> > today.
>>>
>>> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
>>> 100K+ AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115.
>>> Then it returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low
>>> teens. Out here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of
>>> town, it's consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since
>>> then. They report 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115.
>>> Yesterday it was 113 there, 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to
>>> last all summer. This has never happened before - the temperature in
>>> both places was always close to the same. Must be a very local
>>> phenomena, I've seen no mention in the newspaper. My usual source of
>>> cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot air - the water in it
>>> nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very miserable.
>>>
>>> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
>>> thermometers agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
>>> when something closes the door from the inside.
>>
>> Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not
>> turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked
>> at.
>
>
> First thing I look at. Plenty of water Pump working fine. Water lines to
> pads clear. Pads nice and wet.

Weird.

"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked
>> at got very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed
>> ones. Those who got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine
>> worked well only a very few times. I doubt that I will buy another.
>> Unless someone manages to make one that isn't prone to problems.
>>
>
> I've had good luck with all mine over the past 30 - 40 years. Never
> bother to look them up - just buy what the installer sells. But you have
> to tinker with them. Be sure the lines from the water distributer hub
> through the lines to the pads ("spider") are all working right. Things
> get plugged up, especially with very hard well water like I have. Have to
> be sure the pump is working, that the mesh water filter around pump is
> not plugged up. And of course that the water feed to the cooler is
> working right and the float valve in the cooler is allowing water to flow
> into the cooler.
>
> Sounds like a lot of trouble but usually there are few problems. Easy to
> fix things yourself, no expensive A/C servicing bill.

Mine were cheap portables. Nothing to install. Storing them when not in use
was a problem though. No good place to put them.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 6:43:00 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in
> :
>
> > On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> >> news:nmup2g$jrc$1@dont- email.me:
> >>
> >> > Apparently Washington state is the only state that escaped the high
> >> heat
> >> > today.
> >>
> >> I'm having my own private high heat this past month. About 6/15 The
> >> 100K+ AZ town in live near had a week-long heat wave, around 115.
> >> Then it returned to normal - high 90s, low 100s, once in a while low
> >> teens. Out here in the farmland where I live, aboutc 2 miles west of
> >> town, it's consistently been around 15 degrees above theirs since
> >> then. They report 100 on the radio weather report, 1 get 115.
> >> Yesterday it was 113 there, 132 here. I'm afraid this is going to
> >> last all summer. This has never happened before - the temperature in
> >> both places was always close to the same. Must be a very local
> >> phenomena, I've seen no mention in the newspaper. My usual source of
> >> cooling, evaporative cooler, just blows hot air - the water in it
> >> nust be too hot to cool the air. Very strange, Very miserable.
> >>
> >> No, it's not a defective thermometer, all three of my outside
> >> thermometers agree.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
> >> when something closes the door from the inside.
> >
> > Check your water level. If it's not going down, your water pump is not
> > turning on. It's either the switch or the pump that needs to be looked
> > at.
>
>
> First thing I look at. Plenty of water Pump working fine. Water lines to
> pads clear. Pads nice and wet.

It's an interesting problem. My guess is that the hotter the temperature, the better one of these gizmos would work. Make sure that the relative humidity is not too high. How high is too high? Beats me but if everything is working, it's got to be the humidity. Good luck!



>
> --
> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
> when something closes the door from the inside.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "KenK" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked
> >> at got very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed
> >> ones. Those who got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine
> >> worked well only a very few times. I doubt that I will buy another.
> >> Unless someone manages to make one that isn't prone to problems.
> >>
> >
> > I've had good luck with all mine over the past 30 - 40 years. Never
> > bother to look them up - just buy what the installer sells. But you have
> > to tinker with them. Be sure the lines from the water distributer hub
> > through the lines to the pads ("spider") are all working right. Things
> > get plugged up, especially with very hard well water like I have. Have to
> > be sure the pump is working, that the mesh water filter around pump is
> > not plugged up. And of course that the water feed to the cooler is
> > working right and the float valve in the cooler is allowing water to flow
> > into the cooler.
> >
> > Sounds like a lot of trouble but usually there are few problems. Easy to
> > fix things yourself, no expensive A/C servicing bill.
>
> Mine were cheap portables. Nothing to install. Storing them when not in use
> was a problem though. No good place to put them.

Don't you have an unused garage?
====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> > :
>> >
>> >> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked
>> >> at got very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed
>> >> ones. Those who got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine
>> >> worked well only a very few times. I doubt that I will buy another.
>> >> Unless someone manages to make one that isn't prone to problems.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I've had good luck with all mine over the past 30 - 40 years. Never
>> > bother to look them up - just buy what the installer sells. But you
>> > have
>> > to tinker with them. Be sure the lines from the water distributer hub
>> > through the lines to the pads ("spider") are all working right. Things
>> > get plugged up, especially with very hard well water like I have. Have
>> > to
>> > be sure the pump is working, that the mesh water filter around pump is
>> > not plugged up. And of course that the water feed to the cooler is
>> > working right and the float valve in the cooler is allowing water to
>> > flow
>> > into the cooler.
>> >
>> > Sounds like a lot of trouble but usually there are few problems. Easy
>> > to
>> > fix things yourself, no expensive A/C servicing bill.
>>
>> Mine were cheap portables. Nothing to install. Storing them when not in
>> use
>> was a problem though. No good place to put them.
>
> Don't you have an unused garage?
> ====

No. We have a very tiny room that is called a garage. It is not large enough
to park a car in. We keep our stockpile out there. Things like paper goods
and canned goods. Also the small upright freezer, some seasonal decorations
and tools. It's flat out fill, save for the small walking path.

We do have the back house. Although there is room in there, it would be too
hard to get the unit back there. Trying to roll it that far on the cement
would damage the wheels. We do have a small flatbed but the ground is so
uneven that it's not worth trying to use that. Doesn't work very well.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 3:38:42 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "KenK" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> >> > :
> >> >
> >> >> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked
> >> >> at got very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed
> >> >> ones. Those who got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine
> >> >> worked well only a very few times. I doubt that I will buy another.
> >> >> Unless someone manages to make one that isn't prone to problems.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I've had good luck with all mine over the past 30 - 40 years. Never
> >> > bother to look them up - just buy what the installer sells. But you
> >> > have
> >> > to tinker with them. Be sure the lines from the water distributer hub
> >> > through the lines to the pads ("spider") are all working right. Things
> >> > get plugged up, especially with very hard well water like I have. Have
> >> > to
> >> > be sure the pump is working, that the mesh water filter around pump is
> >> > not plugged up. And of course that the water feed to the cooler is
> >> > working right and the float valve in the cooler is allowing water to
> >> > flow
> >> > into the cooler.
> >> >
> >> > Sounds like a lot of trouble but usually there are few problems. Easy
> >> > to
> >> > fix things yourself, no expensive A/C servicing bill.
> >>
> >> Mine were cheap portables. Nothing to install. Storing them when not in
> >> use
> >> was a problem though. No good place to put them.
> >
> > Don't you have an unused garage?
> > ====
>
> No. We have a very tiny room that is called a garage. It is not large enough
> to park a car in. We keep our stockpile out there. Things like paper goods
> and canned goods. Also the small upright freezer, some seasonal decorations
> and tools. It's flat out fill, save for the small walking path.
>
> We do have the back house. Although there is room in there, it would be too
> hard to get the unit back there. Trying to roll it that far on the cement
> would damage the wheels. We do have a small flatbed but the ground is so
> uneven that it's not worth trying to use that. Doesn't work very well.

A "back house", you have out back? What pray tell is this building? An old residence perhaps? Do you rent it out? I'm looking for a six-month rental come winter...perhaps we could make a deal. Your winters are mild and ours aren't. I could even fix it up for part of the rent. Hmmmm, the possibilities abound.
====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 3:38:42 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "KenK" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> >> > :
> >> >
> >> >> Both of my swamp coolers were inexpensive. None of the ones I looked
> >> >> at got very good reviews and the last one I bought got very mixed
> >> >> ones. Those who got working ones must have gotten very lucky. Mine
> >> >> worked well only a very few times. I doubt that I will buy another.
> >> >> Unless someone manages to make one that isn't prone to problems.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I've had good luck with all mine over the past 30 - 40 years. Never
> >> > bother to look them up - just buy what the installer sells. But you
> >> > have
> >> > to tinker with them. Be sure the lines from the water distributer hub
> >> > through the lines to the pads ("spider") are all working right.
> >> > Things
> >> > get plugged up, especially with very hard well water like I have.
> >> > Have
> >> > to
> >> > be sure the pump is working, that the mesh water filter around pump
> >> > is
> >> > not plugged up. And of course that the water feed to the cooler is
> >> > working right and the float valve in the cooler is allowing water to
> >> > flow
> >> > into the cooler.
> >> >
> >> > Sounds like a lot of trouble but usually there are few problems. Easy
> >> > to
> >> > fix things yourself, no expensive A/C servicing bill.
> >>
> >> Mine were cheap portables. Nothing to install. Storing them when not in
> >> use
> >> was a problem though. No good place to put them.
> >
> > Don't you have an unused garage?
> > ====
>
> No. We have a very tiny room that is called a garage. It is not large
> enough
> to park a car in. We keep our stockpile out there. Things like paper goods
> and canned goods. Also the small upright freezer, some seasonal
> decorations
> and tools. It's flat out fill, save for the small walking path.
>
> We do have the back house. Although there is room in there, it would be
> too
> hard to get the unit back there. Trying to roll it that far on the cement
> would damage the wheels. We do have a small flatbed but the ground is so
> uneven that it's not worth trying to use that. Doesn't work very well.

A "back house", you have out back? What pray tell is this building? An old
residence perhaps? Do you rent it out? I'm looking for a six-month rental
come winter...perhaps we could make a deal. Your winters are mild and ours
aren't. I could even fix it up for part of the rent. Hmmmm, the
possibilities abound.
====

I don't know what the original intent of the building was. It's 400 sq. ft.
Cement floor, fireplace, shop lights, heat and phone. Husband had planned on
insulating it and putting up drywall and a floor. I think he did one roll of
insulation, then just a wee bit of drywall near the fireplace. Handyman did
say that he was asking about getting it finished.

The main problem is that there is no water. Handyman said it would be easy
enough to get water back there. Such as a hose. But would be far too costly
to get waste water back out of there. He suggested a composting toilet.
Nope. Not into those.

For the most part, the building is unused. We do store photo albums, bikes,
seasonal decorations and other things. Husband's original intent was a place
for the guys to hang out and play cards. I put the kibosh on that. I've had
enough of drunk military guys passing out in my house. Not that it would
necessarily happen now but it could. And with no bathroom, I don't want guys
peeing outside which I know they will do or worse still, trekking back and
forth in and out of the house.

I was then going to turn it into a dance studio. When our studio was moving,
they were selling things like the mirrors and barres for cheap. The problem?
The floor. Sprung floors are not cheap. So... That didn't happen.

More recently, the teens asked if they could use it as a hangout. Husband
agreed to let them do this. I did buy some cheap curtains and a few things
that they chose from Big Lots. But mostly they are making use of things that
we already have. So it isn't costing me much to let them use it. I even
offered to get them a fridge but they didn't want one.

It is next to the fire pit, so if it starts raining when they are out there,
they can duck inside the building.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:35:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I don't know what the original intent of the building was. It's 400 sq. ft.
> Cement floor, fireplace, shop lights, heat and phone. Husband had planned on
> insulating it and putting up drywall and a floor. I think he did one roll of
> insulation, then just a wee bit of drywall near the fireplace. Handyman did
> say that he was asking about getting it finished.
>
> The main problem is that there is no water. Handyman said it would be easy
> enough to get water back there. Such as a hose. But would be far too costly
> to get waste water back out of there. He suggested a composting toilet.
> Nope. Not into those.
>
> For the most part, the building is unused. We do store photo albums, bikes,
> seasonal decorations and other things. Husband's original intent was a place
> for the guys to hang out and play cards. I put the kibosh on that. I've had
> enough of drunk military guys passing out in my house. Not that it would
> necessarily happen now but it could. And with no bathroom, I don't want guys
> peeing outside which I know they will do or worse still, trekking back and
> forth in and out of the house.
>
> I was then going to turn it into a dance studio. When our studio was moving,
> they were selling things like the mirrors and barres for cheap. The problem?
> The floor. Sprung floors are not cheap. So... That didn't happen.
>
> More recently, the teens asked if they could use it as a hangout. Husband
> agreed to let them do this. I did buy some cheap curtains and a few things
> that they chose from Big Lots. But mostly they are making use of things that
> we already have. So it isn't costing me much to let them use it. I even
> offered to get them a fridge but they didn't want one.
>
> It is next to the fire pit, so if it starts raining when they are out there,
> they can duck inside the building.

I don't care what others are saying about your fire pit, deck, and now
the shack in back... I think it's great that you're doing this for
your daughter. It's a safe place for her to hang out with her friends
and you can keep an eye on them from inside the house. They won't
feel like they're right under your nose and you won't be worrying
about them.

--

sf

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 6:05:52 PM UTC-4, Roy wrote:

> A "back house", you have out back? What pray tell is this building? An old residence perhaps? Do you rent it out? I'm looking for a six-month rental come winter...perhaps we could make a deal. Your winters are mild and ours aren't. I could even fix it up for part of the rent. Hmmmm, the possibilities abound.

I'm pretty sure most people would refer to it as a "shed".

Cindy Hamilton