On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:26:11 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
> On 27-Jul-2016, sf > wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:27:52 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > > I recently phoned Ziploc and susggested they have a two quart
> > > > size because the one quart is often too small and the one gallon is
> > > > too large.
> >
> > That's one of my pet peeves too Sheldon! Somebody used to make a half
> > gallon size, I know because I bought them. Maybe it was Hefty. The
> > fact remains that now, nobody does. Whoever thought it was a good
> > idea to discontinue that size obviously doesn't cook!
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
> Amazon sells Ziploc brand 2qt/half-gallon bags - two types, freezer and
> marinade.
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...on+ziploc+bags

Thanks! They didn't when I checked, so I gave up on Amazon.

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sf

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:12:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:50:39 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>> "The Greatest!" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:29:59 UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>> > Don't bother to make suggestions for product improvement to many large
>>>> > companys, they're typically met with annoyance for telling them what
>>>> > to do. I recently phoned Ziploc and susggested they have a two quart
>>>> > size because the one quart is often too small and the one gallon is
>>>> > too large. The woman told me that they see no good reason to produce
>>>> > that size and in a MYOB tone... I asked her how she'd feel if bras
>>>> > only came in A and D cup... at least I got a giggle from the witch.
>>>>
>>>> I run into the same thing with the Amazon packaging, requesting smaller
>>>> boxes for shipping. It's ridiculous that they send a huge box, full of
>>>> bubble wrap for a package of batteries or something equally small. BTW,
>>>> I
>>>> agree that the two quart size would be handy.
>>>
>>>
>>> I get Prime Pantry stuff, it comes in a standard - size box, sometimes my
>>> boxes are full, sometimes they are near empty. I guess their reasoning is
>>> that standardizing = cost savings. I was just in Target on lunch break,
>>> was noticing that everything is in like a gazillion sizes (Ziploc food
>>> containers!), but just a very few sizes of Ziplocs...mentioned this to
>>> some co-workers, and they all complained about a lack of product between
>>> the one quart and gallon sizes, so two - quarters would surely sell.
>>>
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>> There is a fuss here about it too. Huge great boxes for tiny things.
>>> Such
>>> a waste.
>>
>>Yes, and then we're stuck taking them down and getting rid of them in the
>>recycle barrel.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>Yesterday my new Weber arrived by private carrier... you gotta see the
>Weber carton, triple walled heavy corrugated with honeycomb
>reinforcements everywhere. It took me over two hours to unpack it,
>then another hour to fold up all the extra corrugated and break up the
>styrofoam. The outer carton is so heavy and so strong it can easily
>substitute for a coffin. The trucker said it weighed 160 pounds...
>I'd guesstimate 75 lbs is packaging. Weber packaging is an
>engineering miracal, however their assembly instructions are a total
>failure. I'm going to wait for this 90º+ heat to go before attempting
>to decipher their lousy assembly instructions, they are by far the
>worst I've ever seen. This is a grill that retails for nearly $1,000.
>I've seen much better assembly instructions with a $20 tomato cage...
>the users manual is worse, TP is better grade paper, and the font is
>so small I need a magnifying glass to read it... phone directories are
>printed on better paper use a more legible font. After looking it
>over I see no reason it can't be shipped much more throughly
>assembled... shouldn't need more than 15 minutes, instead it will take
>about 6 hours... the bag of assorted fasteners must weigh five pounds.
>I'll eventually assemble it but I'm not happy with the instructions.-
>
>------------
>
>Good grief! You will have fun packing that back up if it has to go back!

There's not much packing left, just the outer carton. I'll wait for
the heat to go before I tackle it... probably won't be difficult once
I get started. I'm not in any big rush, I'm a very patient man... I
learned many years ago in my trade that the faster you go the more
behinder you get... like I'd tell my impatient boss, do you want it
fast or do you want it good? The most difficult part of these DIY
assemblies is IDing all the components, familiarizing myself with
them, and arranging them in order. I don't think I'll need to send it
back, if any parts are missing/defective I'm sure they'll send
replacements. The instructions say the only tools needed are a
Phillips and flat blade screwdriver, and they supply a small stamped
wrench... I have plenty of tools. My only problem will be deciding
where to do the assembling, says to choose a flat level surface for
the frame... there's the concrete garage floor but I don't relish
working on the hard ground... I have saw horses and boards so I'll set
up a work station under a shady tree. I don't imagine I'll encounter
any problems, it just looks overwhelming when that huge carton is
first opened. I still think they should ship it in two cartons, one
for the pre assembled lower frame and cabinet, and another carton for
the actual grill. It would end up being two much smaller/lighter
cartons and I believe they'd sell more units that way, a lot of people
don't like having to assemble stuff, and having the store do it can be
costly and the kids they have do it don't do a very good job.

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:12:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:50:39 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>> "The Greatest!" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:29:59 UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>> > Don't bother to make suggestions for product improvement to many
>>>> > large
>>>> > companys, they're typically met with annoyance for telling them what
>>>> > to do. I recently phoned Ziploc and susggested they have a two quart
>>>> > size because the one quart is often too small and the one gallon is
>>>> > too large. The woman told me that they see no good reason to produce
>>>> > that size and in a MYOB tone... I asked her how she'd feel if bras
>>>> > only came in A and D cup... at least I got a giggle from the witch.
>>>>
>>>> I run into the same thing with the Amazon packaging, requesting smaller
>>>> boxes for shipping. It's ridiculous that they send a huge box, full of
>>>> bubble wrap for a package of batteries or something equally small. BTW,
>>>> I
>>>> agree that the two quart size would be handy.
>>>
>>>
>>> I get Prime Pantry stuff, it comes in a standard - size box, sometimes
>>> my
>>> boxes are full, sometimes they are near empty. I guess their reasoning
>>> is
>>> that standardizing = cost savings. I was just in Target on lunch break,
>>> was noticing that everything is in like a gazillion sizes (Ziploc food
>>> containers!), but just a very few sizes of Ziplocs...mentioned this to
>>> some co-workers, and they all complained about a lack of product between
>>> the one quart and gallon sizes, so two - quarters would surely sell.
>>>
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>> There is a fuss here about it too. Huge great boxes for tiny things.
>>> Such
>>> a waste.
>>
>>Yes, and then we're stuck taking them down and getting rid of them in the
>>recycle barrel.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>Yesterday my new Weber arrived by private carrier... you gotta see the
>Weber carton, triple walled heavy corrugated with honeycomb
>reinforcements everywhere. It took me over two hours to unpack it,
>then another hour to fold up all the extra corrugated and break up the
>styrofoam. The outer carton is so heavy and so strong it can easily
>substitute for a coffin. The trucker said it weighed 160 pounds...
>I'd guesstimate 75 lbs is packaging. Weber packaging is an
>engineering miracal, however their assembly instructions are a total
>failure. I'm going to wait for this 90º+ heat to go before attempting
>to decipher their lousy assembly instructions, they are by far the
>worst I've ever seen. This is a grill that retails for nearly $1,000.
>I've seen much better assembly instructions with a $20 tomato cage...
>the users manual is worse, TP is better grade paper, and the font is
>so small I need a magnifying glass to read it... phone directories are
>printed on better paper use a more legible font. After looking it
>over I see no reason it can't be shipped much more throughly
>assembled... shouldn't need more than 15 minutes, instead it will take
>about 6 hours... the bag of assorted fasteners must weigh five pounds.
>I'll eventually assemble it but I'm not happy with the instructions.-
>
>------------
>
>Good grief! You will have fun packing that back up if it has to go back!

There's not much packing left, just the outer carton. I'll wait for
the heat to go before I tackle it... probably won't be difficult once
I get started. I'm not in any big rush, I'm a very patient man... I
learned many years ago in my trade that the faster you go the more
behinder you get... like I'd tell my impatient boss, do you want it
fast or do you want it good? The most difficult part of these DIY
assemblies is IDing all the components, familiarizing myself with
them, and arranging them in order. I don't think I'll need to send it
back, if any parts are missing/defective I'm sure they'll send
replacements. The instructions say the only tools needed are a
Phillips and flat blade screwdriver, and they supply a small stamped
wrench... I have plenty of tools. My only problem will be deciding
where to do the assembling, says to choose a flat level surface for
the frame... there's the concrete garage floor but I don't relish
working on the hard ground... I have saw horses and boards so I'll set
up a work station under a shady tree. I don't imagine I'll encounter
any problems, it just looks overwhelming when that huge carton is
first opened. I still think they should ship it in two cartons, one
for the pre assembled lower frame and cabinet, and another carton for
the actual grill. It would end up being two much smaller/lighter
cartons and I believe they'd sell more units that way, a lot of people
don't like having to assemble stuff, and having the store do it can be
costly and the kids they have do it don't do a very good job.
--------------------------------------

It sounds like you have it well in hand but good luck with it anyway)



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On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:13:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "The Greatest!" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:29:59 UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> > Don't bother to make suggestions for product improvement to many large
>>> > companys, they're typically met with annoyance for telling them what
>>> > to do. I recently phoned Ziploc and susggested they have a two quart
>>> > size because the one quart is often too small and the one gallon is
>>> > too large. The woman told me that they see no good reason to produce
>>> > that size and in a MYOB tone... I asked her how she'd feel if bras
>>> > only came in A and D cup... at least I got a giggle from the witch.
>>>
>>> I run into the same thing with the Amazon packaging, requesting smaller
>>> boxes for shipping. It's ridiculous that they send a huge box, full of
>>> bubble wrap for a package of batteries or something equally small. BTW, I
>>> agree that the two quart size would be handy.
>>
>>
>> I get Prime Pantry stuff, it comes in a standard - size box, sometimes my
>> boxes are full, sometimes they are near empty. I guess their reasoning is
>> that standardizing = cost savings. I was just in Target on lunch break,
>> was noticing that everything is in like a gazillion sizes (Ziploc food
>> containers!), but just a very few sizes of Ziplocs...mentioned this to
>> some co-workers, and they all complained about a lack of product between
>> the one quart and gallon sizes, so two - quarters would surely sell.
>>
>> ----------------------------
>>
>> There is a fuss here about it too. Huge great boxes for tiny things. Such
>> a waste.
>
>Yes, and then we're stuck taking them down and getting rid of them in the
>recycle barrel.
>
>---------------------
>
>Yes They say they are going to change that ... but it could take a year
>!!!!! It makes me angry because that stuff isn't free. We pay for it one
>way or another.

I solved that problem long ago... ordered a case of good quality
Scotch brand packing tape, a commercial dispensor, a quality box
cutter and lots of extra blades from Amazon. I can make quick work of
slicing large cartons into managable pieces, folding them into small
packets, stomping them flat, and taping them securely. Yoose probably
don't know but I invented trash compacting... nothing goes into my
recyclables bin lest I compress it to its smallest possible volume. I
generate a lot of pet food cans but they get stomped flat.

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:13:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "The Greatest!" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:29:59 UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> > Don't bother to make suggestions for product improvement to many large
>>> > companys, they're typically met with annoyance for telling them what
>>> > to do. I recently phoned Ziploc and susggested they have a two quart
>>> > size because the one quart is often too small and the one gallon is
>>> > too large. The woman told me that they see no good reason to produce
>>> > that size and in a MYOB tone... I asked her how she'd feel if bras
>>> > only came in A and D cup... at least I got a giggle from the witch.
>>>
>>> I run into the same thing with the Amazon packaging, requesting smaller
>>> boxes for shipping. It's ridiculous that they send a huge box, full of
>>> bubble wrap for a package of batteries or something equally small. BTW,
>>> I
>>> agree that the two quart size would be handy.
>>
>>
>> I get Prime Pantry stuff, it comes in a standard - size box, sometimes my
>> boxes are full, sometimes they are near empty. I guess their reasoning is
>> that standardizing = cost savings. I was just in Target on lunch break,
>> was noticing that everything is in like a gazillion sizes (Ziploc food
>> containers!), but just a very few sizes of Ziplocs...mentioned this to
>> some co-workers, and they all complained about a lack of product between
>> the one quart and gallon sizes, so two - quarters would surely sell.
>>
>> ----------------------------
>>
>> There is a fuss here about it too. Huge great boxes for tiny things.
>> Such
>> a waste.
>
>Yes, and then we're stuck taking them down and getting rid of them in the
>recycle barrel.
>
>---------------------
>
>Yes They say they are going to change that ... but it could take a year
>!!!!! It makes me angry because that stuff isn't free. We pay for it one
>way or another.

I solved that problem long ago... ordered a case of good quality
Scotch brand packing tape, a commercial dispensor, a quality box
cutter and lots of extra blades from Amazon. I can make quick work of
slicing large cartons into managable pieces, folding them into small
packets, stomping them flat, and taping them securely. Yoose probably
don't know but I invented trash compacting... nothing goes into my
recyclables bin lest I compress it to its smallest possible volume. I
generate a lot of pet food cans but they get stomped flat.

---

We just take all our trash down to the recycling unit. We never use the
bins.



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On 7/28/2016 9:22 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:02:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I solved that problem long ago... ordered a case of good quality
>> Scotch brand packing tape, a commercial dispensor, a quality box
>> cutter and lots of extra blades from Amazon. I can make quick work of
>> slicing large cartons into managable pieces, folding them into small
>> packets, stomping them flat, and taping them securely. Yoose probably
>> don't know but I invented trash compacting... nothing goes into my
>> recyclables bin lest I compress it to its smallest possible volume. I
>> generate a lot of pet food cans but they get stomped flat.
>
> Serious Obsessive compulsive behavior there.
>
> -sw
>
I offer the larger boxes to neighbors. Someone always needs boxes.

I do agree things are frequently packed in too-large boxes. Anyone
remember that free silly little cow-shaped cookie cutter from the butter
is best website? It came in a rather large box considering it was just
a small metal cookie cutter shaped like a cow. The postage they spent
per box was $3.95. I was already buying butter so I'm not sure what
they gained by that promotion.

Jill

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:09:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/28/2016 9:22 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:02:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> I solved that problem long ago... ordered a case of good quality
>>> Scotch brand packing tape, a commercial dispensor, a quality box
>>> cutter and lots of extra blades from Amazon. I can make quick work of
>>> slicing large cartons into managable pieces, folding them into small
>>> packets, stomping them flat, and taping them securely. Yoose probably
>>> don't know but I invented trash compacting... nothing goes into my
>>> recyclables bin lest I compress it to its smallest possible volume. I
>>> generate a lot of pet food cans but they get stomped flat.
>>
>> Serious Obsessive compulsive behavior there.
>>
>> -sw

I buy a lot of stuff on line and it all arrives in oversize cartons,
if I didn't compress it into the smallest volume posssible I'd never
fit it into my recyclables bin. Sometimes I can't fit it all in but
not always, like now I have all the large cartons from my new well
pressure tank and all its attachments, I'll get rid of it over the
next few weeks... and I still have the large carton from my new Weber
grill. The weather hasn't been cooperative to assemble it, raining
like it would flood Noah's Ark... I'll eventually get to it.

>I offer the larger boxes to neighbors. Someone always needs boxes.

My neighbors have plenty of their own cartons, they'd think I was nuts
offering them mine... these are huge cartons, not the size someone
would want for normal shipping. Most people use the post office
cartons, the price includes postage, I use those often.