wrote:
>
> I had to look a bit to find small and no gadgets. Mazda 2 was it, I
> still reverse into parking spaces and oh my gawd, it doesn't have a
> backup camera

I don't care for all this new car/features stuff either. It's just more
fancy little things that can go wrong. I like the old basic cars. I
really miss those little triangular vent windows in front to funnel in
fresh air. The vents with the fan turned on don't do so good.

I can understand people that drive high mileage each year and want the
extra luxuries (Like Ed), but I rarely drive and I don't need all that.

Here's a good one. My old van was a 1972 Dodge Tradesman. I bought it
used in 1988 for $500. It worked well for me for 21 years with very
little repairs. That's what I used the entire 20 years that I was in
business for myself.

Anyway, it had a fantastic hot heater but I guess it worked with water
temperature. Each cold morning, I would drive to work and no heat until
it warmed up. After about 3-4 miles, the water finally got hot and the
heater was great. Problem was, I rarely drove to work more than 3 miles
each way. Most winters, I got to my destination before the heater kicked
in. So I drove most of the time with "no heat."

I plan to rent a car soon just to go see my parents. God help me with
that. I'll probably need a quick lesson just to learn all the features
and how to drive the darn thing. Ridiculous.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 05:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I bought my Tarus new in 1990 and sold it in 2008. I don't like getting new-to-me
>cars. I also now buy pre-owned, as they call it. But I buy SUVs, because it is easier
>on my arthritic knees and back to just step into a car instead of bending down to
>get in and out. Chronic pain will do that. The only problem with my current ride is
>the color. Two dark blue in a row...I want a red one. ;-))
>
>N.

Red vehicles tend to attract more speeding tickets

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> I had to look a bit to find small and no gadgets. Mazda 2 was it, I
>> still reverse into parking spaces and oh my gawd, it doesn't have a
>> backup camera
>
>I don't care for all this new car/features stuff either. It's just more
>fancy little things that can go wrong. I like the old basic cars. I
>really miss those little triangular vent windows in front to funnel in
>fresh air. The vents with the fan turned on don't do so good.
>
>I can understand people that drive high mileage each year and want the
>extra luxuries (Like Ed), but I rarely drive and I don't need all that.
>
>Here's a good one. My old van was a 1972 Dodge Tradesman. I bought it
>used in 1988 for $500. It worked well for me for 21 years with very
>little repairs. That's what I used the entire 20 years that I was in
>business for myself.
>
>Anyway, it had a fantastic hot heater but I guess it worked with water
>temperature. Each cold morning, I would drive to work and no heat until
>it warmed up. After about 3-4 miles, the water finally got hot and the
>heater was great. Problem was, I rarely drove to work more than 3 miles
>each way. Most winters, I got to my destination before the heater kicked
>in. So I drove most of the time with "no heat."
>
>I plan to rent a car soon just to go see my parents. God help me with
>that. I'll probably need a quick lesson just to learn all the features
>and how to drive the darn thing. Ridiculous.

Well think about it - you could rent a Merc, then sf would have to buy
something else, maybe a Rolls Royce, in order to feel she is queening
it over us

On 2016-08-08 7:42 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:21:58 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> T...
>>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> T...
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/7/2016 9:06 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some people must be jealous, because it's 4 years old now and it will
>>>>>> be our last car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Going to die soon? My car is less than a year old, I'm pretty sure I'm
>>>>> a couple years older than you and I plan on getting at least one more
>>>>> car.
>>>>
>>>> If it's up to me, I'll never buy a car again.
>>>
>>> Me either. I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma with less than 30,000 miles on it
>>> and
>>> I hope to drive it until I die since I hate all the bells and whistles on
>>> new cars.
>>
>> That's it!
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>>
>> Heh mine is a 20 year old import from Japan <g> Yes, I am boasting about it
>> LOLOL
>>
>> I love it and will never changed it unless forced
>>
>> 2800 automatic Mitsubishi Pajero SWB SUV
>>
>> I don't like all the fancy doodads on the newer cars either, but then like I
>> always say ..a good thing we don't all like the same thing, or there
>> wouldn't be enough to go around)
>
> I had to look a bit to find small and no gadgets. Mazda 2 was it, I
> still reverse into parking spaces and oh my gawd, it doesn't have a
> backup camera

Backup mirrors are highly over rated. They are handy for checking the
clearance when you are in the space and close to the vehicle or other
object behind. Other than that, they are all but useless. You have to
look in all directions anyway, and that back up monitor is nothing more
than a distraction. A vehicle with good visibility and properly adjusted
mirrors is better than a backup camera. They do not show vehicles or
pedestrians approaching from the side.

I have a backup camera in my CRV. It came as part of the package when I
bought it. There are a lot of bells and whistles on that car that I
enjoy and use a lot. I like the moon roof, the tilting steering wheel,
AC, stereo with CD, AUX and USB port, rear window defogger, power
windows and mirrors, but I can live without the backup camera.


> The Nissan was 14 years old and just starting to have repair bills, I
> know the person who has it now but he can fix these things himself,
> that makes a difference.

My rule of thumb is to keep driving them until the cost of repairs is
more than the cost of replacing. If you are financing them it takes a
few years to pay them off, during which time most problems are under
warranty. Once they are paid off you may have the occasional repair,
but mostly regular maintenance. Then when they start getting really old
you can run into some major repairs. Sometimes you can consider the
effect of the problem against the cost.

When the gas tank on my then 15 year old Buick needed to be replace it
was about $1000 to repair. That was a necessity. When the AC went kaput
a few months later I was thinking about thorwing good money after bad,
and we could live without AC. If it was really hot we could use the
other car. When the brakes needed to be replaced it was a safety issue.
My mechanic did that for under $500. We got another year out of it,and
that brake job was the only repair of the year, so it was still cheaper
than replacement.

On 2016-08-08 8:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
As
>> I said before, it's always in context when the subject is cars. I
>> don't talk about driving to the grocery store in my Mercedes just so I
>> can name drop a brand, which is how most of the brand name droppers do
>> it here.
>
> What you're referring to as name dropping is all small potatoes.
> Coffee makers, really? Pots? People mention them in discussions
> of coffee makers and pots, no different than you talking about
> your car in discussions of cars.

It is almost comical that someone would think mentioning the brand of
coffee maker(s) they have is bragging, except that it is sort of sad
they would think that way. I think it is just a matter of context, and
since this is a cooking and food forum, we often compare the pros and
cons of different makes. I have a Tim Hortons coffee maker (made by
Bunn). I got talked into it because it is so fast. When it dies it will
be replaced by something a lot cheaper. We only use it once or twice a
week so the water in the reservoir is constantly heated and evaporates
over time. I have have had a number of espresso makers over the years
because none of them lasted very long. I don't think I am bragging to
say that I now have a Breville. It is actually the second Breville. The
first one lasted about 10 years longer than any of the other makers,
some of which died within months. Thank goodness for Canadian Tires
return policy because I bought one machine there, returned it and a
number of replacements.

On 2016-08-08, Nancy Young > wrote:

> nancy, has a wet vac, too

So does everyone with a cheapo shop vac.

If you mean like a Rainbow vacuum cleaner, big whoop. I tossed my
mom's cuz I didn't wanna tangle with whatever the Hell was living in
the bottom of that thing. 8|

I suspect Mom was unawares of the Genuine Rainbow Freshener/Deodorizer
stuff @ $22 a pop.

nb

On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
>
>> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
>
> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>
>

Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it. It also
sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 9:36:51 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> "Nancy Young" > wrote
> >
> >>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
> >
> >> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
> >
> > Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
> > went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
> > me, a benefactress. Hee.
> >
> >
>
> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it. It also
> sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
> they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.

We thought about getting central vac for our house, but it seemed a little
excessive for a 1200 square foot ranch. The attraction was better dust
control (husband is allergic to dust mites), but we ended up getting a
canister vac with HEPA filtration. We're all hardwood floors, anyway.

Cindy Hamilton

> wrote in message
...

> I have two Dysons, one stick and the Dyson Animal. That would seem a
> lot for 1500sq ft but it works for me

Brand name dropping braggart. LOL

Cheri

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It is almost comical that someone would think mentioning the brand of
> coffee maker(s) they have is bragging, except that it is sort of sad
> they would think that way.

I had Starbucks coffee once...just asked for plain coffee. It wasn't
very good...not good enough to justify the price. My home brew or 7-11
tastes better to me at a much lower price.

I don't know about high-end machines. I like my one morning cup of
coffee. I won't pay thousands of dollars for a machine that will deliver
a super cup of coffee. My cheap cup works for me.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it. It also
> sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
> they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.

OK. If we are having a vacuum contest here, all should know that Julie
is going to win that hands down. Almost everything in her life sucks.
:-D

On 8/8/2016 7:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>
>>>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
>>
>>> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
>>
>> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
>> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
>> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>>
>>
>
> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> long hose.

OTOH the cable and hose on a conventional canister vac always seemed to
get tangled or caught in some way so I had a central one installed. I
would like a small handvac for small spills. I have one that came with
my power tool package but it's not very effective. I'd like a Dyson but
I drive a Mazda, not a Mercedes:-)
Graham

On 8/8/2016 9:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
>> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
>> me, a benefactress. Hee.

> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it.

I have coveted a central vac. My inlaws had one and I loved it, but
really, that hose is a problem.

> It also
> sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
> they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.

I love that it's quiet and that the motor is so strong. And all
the dust goes elsewhere, not that modern vacuums leak as much as
the old ones did.

So I have a Ken**** canister and a S***k stick that does a
surprisingly good job for in between cleaning when it's not worth
dragging the heavier one upstairs.

nancy

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > T...
> > > In article >,
> > >
> > > says...
> > >>
> > >> On 8/7/2016 9:06 PM, sf wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Some people must be jealous, because it's 4 years old now and it
> > >> > will
> > >> > be our last car.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Going to die soon? My car is less than a year old, I'm pretty sure
> > >> I'm
> > >> a couple years older than you and I plan on getting at least one more
> > >> car.
> > >
> > > If it's up to me, I'll never buy a car again.
> >
> > Me either. I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma with less than 30,000 miles on it
> > and
> > I hope to drive it until I die since I hate all the bells and whistles
> > on
> > new cars.
>
> That's it!
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Heh mine is a 20 year old import from Japan <g> Yes, I am boasting about
> it
> LOLOL
>
> I love it and will never changed it unless forced
>
> 2800 automatic Mitsubishi Pajero SWB SUV
>
> I don't like all the fancy doodads on the newer cars either, but then like
> I
> always say ..a good thing we don't all like the same thing, or there
> wouldn't be enough to go around)

I guess all those new car buyers help keep the economy going, so I hope
they'll keep doing what they're doing

------------------

Amen to that


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GARY ... fixed now?

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!

> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P

Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
me, a benefactress. Hee.

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Ophelia wrote:
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>
> GARY ... fixed now?

Yes it is! :-D (just thought you would want to know)

On 2016-08-08 9:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 9:36:51 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
>>>
>>>> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
>>>
>>> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
>>> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
>>> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
>> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
>> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
>> long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it. It also
>> sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
>> they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.
>
> We thought about getting central vac for our house, but it seemed a little
> excessive for a 1200 square foot ranch. The attraction was better dust
> control (husband is allergic to dust mites), but we ended up getting a
> canister vac with HEPA filtration. We're all hardwood floors, anyway.

It is handy that they vacuum is in the basement, or in the garage. The
dust that gets stirred up gets sucked into the hose instead of blowing
out the back of a machine you are using.

My wife likes her Romba but I don't see the point. You have to run
around and move stuff out of the way before starting up. It takes about
45 minutes to do a room and that pretty well sucks the life out of the
battery so it has to be recharged before you can do another room.
AFAIAC, it is easier to just go in with the regular vacuum because it
takes less time to do that than it does to prepare for the Romba. And
those things aren't cheap.

On 2016-08-08 9:59 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> It is almost comical that someone would think mentioning the brand of
>> coffee maker(s) they have is bragging, except that it is sort of sad
>> they would think that way.
>
> I had Starbucks coffee once...just asked for plain coffee. It wasn't
> very good...not good enough to justify the price. My home brew or 7-11
> tastes better to me at a much lower price.
>
> I don't know about high-end machines. I like my one morning cup of
> coffee. I won't pay thousands of dollars for a machine that will deliver
> a super cup of coffee. My cheap cup works for me.
>


After having been through so many espresso makers I was prepared to
spend big bucks on a good machine. I had taken my Braun espresso maker
to a repair shop because it had been so much better than my previous
machines. I asked his advice and he said unless I went commercial it
was not worth it. He showed me a 2 year old $3000 home unit that was in
for repair and he could not get the parts.


I like my espresso maker for my morning latte. I think when my current
drip machine bites the dust I will be looking for a Melitta funnel.

Nancy Young wrote:

> On 8/8/2016 9:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
> >> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
> >> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>
> > Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> > powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> > the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> > long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it.
>
> I have coveted a central vac. My inlaws had one and I loved it, but
> really, that hose is a problem.
>
> > It also
> > sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
> > they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.
>
> I love that it's quiet and that the motor is so strong. And all
> the dust goes elsewhere, not that modern vacuums leak as much as
> the old ones did.
>
> So I have a Ken**** canister and a S***k stick that does a
> surprisingly good job for in between cleaning when it's not worth
> dragging the heavier one upstairs.



Nancy, do you still have the cat that enjoys getting "vacuumed"...???


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wrote in message ...

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> I had to look a bit to find small and no gadgets. Mazda 2 was it, I
>> still reverse into parking spaces and oh my gawd, it doesn't have a
>> backup camera
>
>I don't care for all this new car/features stuff either. It's just more
>fancy little things that can go wrong. I like the old basic cars. I
>really miss those little triangular vent windows in front to funnel in
>fresh air. The vents with the fan turned on don't do so good.
>
>I can understand people that drive high mileage each year and want the
>extra luxuries (Like Ed), but I rarely drive and I don't need all that.
>
>Here's a good one. My old van was a 1972 Dodge Tradesman. I bought it
>used in 1988 for $500. It worked well for me for 21 years with very
>little repairs. That's what I used the entire 20 years that I was in
>business for myself.
>
>Anyway, it had a fantastic hot heater but I guess it worked with water
>temperature. Each cold morning, I would drive to work and no heat until
>it warmed up. After about 3-4 miles, the water finally got hot and the
>heater was great. Problem was, I rarely drove to work more than 3 miles
>each way. Most winters, I got to my destination before the heater kicked
>in. So I drove most of the time with "no heat."
>
>I plan to rent a car soon just to go see my parents. God help me with
>that. I'll probably need a quick lesson just to learn all the features
>and how to drive the darn thing. Ridiculous.

Well think about it - you could rent a Merc, then sf would have to buy
something else, maybe a Rolls Royce, in order to feel she is queening
it over us

---------------------------------------

Hahahaha

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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
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>
> GARY ... fixed now?

Yes it is! :-D (just thought you would want to know)
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"l not -l" wrote in message ...


On 8-Aug-2016, wrote:

> On 2016-08-08 8:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> As
> >> I said before, it's always in context when the subject is cars. I
> >> don't talk about driving to the grocery store in my Mercedes just so I
> >> can name drop a brand, which is how most of the brand name droppers do
> >> it here.
> >
> > What you're referring to as name dropping is all small potatoes.
> > Coffee makers, really? Pots? People mention them in discussions
> > of coffee makers and pots, no different than you talking about
> > your car in discussions of cars.
>
> It is almost comical that someone would think mentioning the brand of
> coffee maker(s) they have is bragging, except that it is sort of sad
> they would think that way.

One odd thing about the SF snark was that she says it was about product name
dropping. The two products mentioned by brand were the least expensive; a
$5 drip cone and a $20 French press. Hardly impressive brands or amounts.
Besides, I don't recall her ever getting snippy about the periodic Kuerig
mentions, most of which cost more than all my coffee makers combined.

The four coffee makers I mentioned are all simple, non-electric models.
They don't burn-out or otherwise fail. One was dropped and the glass insert
broke a few years ago; easily replaced for $8. I have lived in the same
home for 45 years; my accumulation of coffee makers reflects my changing
needs over those years and the fact that simple devices last a long time.

The vacuum pot I mentioned is the most expensive, costing about $70 circa
1978; I bought it because it was/is fun to watch brewing coffee and it
brewed the amount I drank at the time. It now sees service when I want to
brew 8 cups, a rare but occasional circumstance.

----------------------

Hey don't let it get to you. Her Bossiness is just trying to control
everyone!

So long as you are happy with what you have ... tough to anyone who doesn't
like it and you can tell me about them any time you like )


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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it. It also
> sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
> they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.

OK. If we are having a vacuum contest here, all should know that Julie
is going to win that hands down. Almost everything in her life sucks.
:-D
-----------------------------------

Did you read about her day and the medical problems she copes with each
day??????

No joke.


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"graham" wrote in message ...

On 8/8/2016 7:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>
>>>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
>>
>>> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
>>
>> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
>> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
>> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>>
>>
>
> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
> long hose.

OTOH the cable and hose on a conventional canister vac always seemed to
get tangled or caught in some way so I had a central one installed. I
would like a small handvac for small spills. I have one that came with
my power tool package but it's not very effective. I'd like a Dyson but
I drive a Mazda, not a Mercedes:-)
-----------------------------

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On 2016-08-08 11:04 AM, l not -l wrote:
> On 8-Aug-2016, wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-08 8:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> As
>>>> I said before, it's always in context when the subject is cars. I
>>>> don't talk about driving to the grocery store in my Mercedes just so I
>>>> can name drop a brand, which is how most of the brand name droppers do
>>>> it here.
>>>
>>> What you're referring to as name dropping is all small potatoes.
>>> Coffee makers, really? Pots? People mention them in discussions
>>> of coffee makers and pots, no different than you talking about
>>> your car in discussions of cars.
>>
>> It is almost comical that someone would think mentioning the brand of
>> coffee maker(s) they have is bragging, except that it is sort of sad
>> they would think that way.
>
> One odd thing about the SF snark was that she says it was about product name
> dropping. The two products mentioned by brand were the least expensive; a
> $5 drip cone and a $20 French press. Hardly impressive brands or amounts.
> Besides, I don't recall her ever getting snippy about the periodic Kuerig
> mentions, most of which cost more than all my coffee makers combined.
>
> The four coffee makers I mentioned are all simple, non-electric models.
> They don't burn-out or otherwise fail. One was dropped and the glass insert
> broke a few years ago; easily replaced for $8. I have lived in the same
> home for 45 years; my accumulation of coffee makers reflects my changing
> needs over those years and the fact that simple devices last a long time.

I can recall a couple mentioning brands more or less an aside, basically
an indication of the size and type and that they were not expensive
appliances. Same here. My first cappuccino machine was stove top
model. I also had a Moka pot. I had electric steam pressure
espresso-cappuccino maker in the basement that was put away years ago
because it was annoying to have to let it cool down and drop pressure
before opening to add more water. I upgraded to an electric pump
machine that was short lived, followed by a succession of similar Asian
made with Italian name espresso machines that were usually paid for by
the refund from the failed ones that were returned on an all regular
basis. When we broke the pot on a cheap drip machine I would have been
happy to have replaced it with a similar machine but there was a deal on
the Tim Hortons (Bunn) machine with heated reservoir that makes coffee
in less than a minute. Not bragging.... just a fact, and since we only
use it once or twice a week and the heated reservoir causes a loss of
water, it won't take me much to decide to get rid of it and get a
cheaper model. I can wait three minutes for coffee instead of just one.
Goodness knows how many Melitta funnels we went through, some for size
and some for breakage.

Come to think if it, and IIRC, the first mention of a brand in this
thread started with a comment from someone about how they could make
less than a whole pot of their coffee with the brand mentioned.


>
> The vacuum pot I mentioned is the most expensive, costing about $70 circa
> 1978; I bought it because it was/is fun to watch brewing coffee and it
> brewed the amount I drank at the time. It now sees service when I want to
> brew 8 cups, a rare but occasional circumstance.


Did they still have vacuum coffee makers in 1978. I remember them from
the 60s. We had them in a snack bar where I worked in 1965-66 and in a
restaurant where I did weekend cleanup in 1967. I can't remember seeing
one since them. Not saying I haven't, but it seems to me that once drip
coffee hit the mainstream in NA the vacuum pots disappeared. They sure
made good coffee, but a lot of the glass carafes broke on the hot burners.

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 3:10:51 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-08 2:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 7:55:47 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 22:05:14 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 8/7/2016 9:06 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Some people must be jealous, because it's 4 years old now and
> >>>> it will be our last car.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Going to die soon? My car is less than a year old, I'm pretty
> >>> sure I'm a couple years older than you and I plan on getting at
> >>> least one more car.
> >>>
> >> I think we probably will too, mainly because I draw the line at a
> >> 10+ YO vehicle and let's face it - new car buying is something he
> >> enjoys.
> >>
> >> -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> >
> > I've always owned old cars. I would love to have most of the ones I
> > had back in the day. These days, my car is 12 years old. It's a great
> > car, although I wouldn't recommend one to anybody.
> >
>
> It's okay. You can mention the make of the car. Just don't tell us what
> brand of coffee maker(s) you use.

It's an 04 VW Passat 1.8T 4-motion wagon. I wouldn't recommend one of these cars unless you like to work on cars or are a glutton for punishment.

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 2:18:19 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > T...
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> On 8/7/2016 9:06 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Some people must be jealous, because it's 4 years old now and it will
> >>> > be our last car.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Going to die soon? My car is less than a year old, I'm pretty sure I'm
> >>> a couple years older than you and I plan on getting at least one more
> >>> car.
> >>
> >> If it's up to me, I'll never buy a car again.
> >
> > Me either. I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma with less than 30,000 miles on it
> > and I hope to drive it until I die since I hate all the bells and whistles
> > on new cars.
>
> Spinach (Angela's Nissan) is a 2001. I think it had less than 20,000 miles
> on it when she got it. I had wrongly presumed that the odometer had flipped,
> but no. My mom rarely drove it. Now the main problems she is having with it
> are things wearing out from age. Like a rubber seal around the door. The
> seals are no longer being made so the mechanic just took it off. It had been
> hanging off at the broken part. This would explain why her door froze shut a
> few winters ago.
>
> Sparkly (my Ford Focus) is a 2014 and hasn't reached 7,000 yet. I am putting
> more miles on it now that I have to go to North Seattle once a week.

You and Angela name your cars? How quaint. I wonder how many people on this forum have names for their vehicles.
====

"Roy" wrote in message
...

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 2:18:19 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > T...
> >> In article >,
> >>
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> On 8/7/2016 9:06 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Some people must be jealous, because it's 4 years old now and it
> >>> > will
> >>> > be our last car.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Going to die soon? My car is less than a year old, I'm pretty sure
> >>> I'm
> >>> a couple years older than you and I plan on getting at least one more
> >>> car.
> >>
> >> If it's up to me, I'll never buy a car again.
> >
> > Me either. I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma with less than 30,000 miles on it
> > and I hope to drive it until I die since I hate all the bells and
> > whistles
> > on new cars.
>
> Spinach (Angela's Nissan) is a 2001. I think it had less than 20,000 miles
> on it when she got it. I had wrongly presumed that the odometer had
> flipped,
> but no. My mom rarely drove it. Now the main problems she is having with
> it
> are things wearing out from age. Like a rubber seal around the door. The
> seals are no longer being made so the mechanic just took it off. It had
> been
> hanging off at the broken part. This would explain why her door froze shut
> a
> few winters ago.
>
> Sparkly (my Ford Focus) is a 2014 and hasn't reached 7,000 yet. I am
> putting
> more miles on it now that I have to go to North Seattle once a week.

You and Angela name your cars? How quaint. I wonder how many people on this
forum have names for their vehicles.
====

Raises hand! Grandson gave our cars names and they have stuck) Since we
both have the same model (except for length) it does differentiate



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 8-Aug-2016, wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-08 8:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> As
>> >> I said before, it's always in context when the subject is cars. I
>> >> don't talk about driving to the grocery store in my Mercedes just so I
>> >> can name drop a brand, which is how most of the brand name droppers do
>> >> it here.
>> >
>> > What you're referring to as name dropping is all small potatoes.
>> > Coffee makers, really? Pots? People mention them in discussions
>> > of coffee makers and pots, no different than you talking about
>> > your car in discussions of cars.
>>
>> It is almost comical that someone would think mentioning the brand of
>> coffee maker(s) they have is bragging, except that it is sort of sad
>> they would think that way.
>
> One odd thing about the SF snark was that she says it was about product
> name
> dropping. The two products mentioned by brand were the least expensive; a
> $5 drip cone and a $20 French press. Hardly impressive brands or
> amounts.
> Besides, I don't recall her ever getting snippy about the periodic Kuerig
> mentions, most of which cost more than all my coffee makers combined.
>
> The four coffee makers I mentioned are all simple, non-electric models.
> They don't burn-out or otherwise fail. One was dropped and the glass
> insert
> broke a few years ago; easily replaced for $8. I have lived in the same
> home for 45 years; my accumulation of coffee makers reflects my changing
> needs over those years and the fact that simple devices last a long time.
>
> The vacuum pot I mentioned is the most expensive, costing about $70 circa
> 1978; I bought it because it was/is fun to watch brewing coffee and it
> brewed the amount I drank at the time. It now sees service when I want to
> brew 8 cups, a rare but occasional circumstance.

Some days are just like that, no accounting for the snark, it just happens.


Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "graham" wrote in message ...
> On 8/8/2016 7:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
>>>
>>>> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
>>>
>>> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
>>> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
>>> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
>> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
>> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
>> long hose.
>
> OTOH the cable and hose on a conventional canister vac always seemed to
> get tangled or caught in some way so I had a central one installed. I
> would like a small handvac for small spills. I have one that came with my
> power tool package but it's not very effective. I'd like a Dyson but I
> drive a Mazda, not a Mercedes:-)
> -----------------------------
>
> *snort*

I would like to drive a Mercedes, just not pay for it.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Roy" wrote in message

> You and Angela name your cars? How quaint. I wonder how many people on
> this
> forum have names for their vehicles.
> ====
>
> Raises hand! Grandson gave our cars names and they have stuck) Since
> we
> both have the same model (except for length) it does differentiate

We've always named ours too.

Cheri

On 8/8/2016 11:51 AM, The Greatest! wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> So I have a Ken**** canister and a S***k stick that does a
>> surprisingly good job for in between cleaning when it's not worth
>> dragging the heavier one upstairs.
>
>
>
> Nancy, do you still have the cat that enjoys getting "vacuumed"...???

Haha! What a memory. Sadly, Moxie has been departed a few years
now. I chalk up her lack of fear of vacuuming to the fact that she was
pretty deaf. Not totally deaf.

nancy

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:10:45 PM UTC-4, Roy wrote:

> You and Angela name your cars? How quaint. I wonder how many people on this forum have names for their vehicles.
> ====

I named my cars when I was a kid, but outgrew it at about age 26. It
seems a little twee, doesn't it?

Ok, I sometimes refer to my husband's FJ Cruiser as "The Herkimer"
(as a nod to Mystery Men), but that's not its name.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:26:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-08 7:42 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:21:58 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>>> T...
>>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> T...
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/7/2016 9:06 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some people must be jealous, because it's 4 years old now and it will
>>>>>>> be our last car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going to die soon? My car is less than a year old, I'm pretty sure I'm
>>>>>> a couple years older than you and I plan on getting at least one more
>>>>>> car.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's up to me, I'll never buy a car again.
>>>>
>>>> Me either. I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma with less than 30,000 miles on it
>>>> and
>>>> I hope to drive it until I die since I hate all the bells and whistles on
>>>> new cars.
>>>
>>> That's it!
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Heh mine is a 20 year old import from Japan <g> Yes, I am boasting about it
>>> LOLOL
>>>
>>> I love it and will never changed it unless forced
>>>
>>> 2800 automatic Mitsubishi Pajero SWB SUV
>>>
>>> I don't like all the fancy doodads on the newer cars either, but then like I
>>> always say ..a good thing we don't all like the same thing, or there
>>> wouldn't be enough to go around)
>>
>> I had to look a bit to find small and no gadgets. Mazda 2 was it, I
>> still reverse into parking spaces and oh my gawd, it doesn't have a
>> backup camera
>
>Backup mirrors are highly over rated. They are handy for checking the
>clearance when you are in the space and close to the vehicle or other
>object behind. Other than that, they are all but useless. You have to
>look in all directions anyway, and that back up monitor is nothing more
>than a distraction. A vehicle with good visibility and properly adjusted
>mirrors is better than a backup camera. They do not show vehicles or
>pedestrians approaching from the side.
>
>I have a backup camera in my CRV. It came as part of the package when I
>bought it. There are a lot of bells and whistles on that car that I
>enjoy and use a lot. I like the moon roof, the tilting steering wheel,
>AC, stereo with CD, AUX and USB port, rear window defogger, power
>windows and mirrors, but I can live without the backup camera.

Except for the camera and the moon roof (loathe them as the sun
triggers my migraine flicking past) my little car has all that stuff.
>
>
>> The Nissan was 14 years old and just starting to have repair bills, I
>> know the person who has it now but he can fix these things himself,
>> that makes a difference.
>
> My rule of thumb is to keep driving them until the cost of repairs is
>more than the cost of replacing. If you are financing them it takes a
>few years to pay them off, during which time most problems are under
>warranty. Once they are paid off you may have the occasional repair,
>but mostly regular maintenance. Then when they start getting really old
>you can run into some major repairs. Sometimes you can consider the
>effect of the problem against the cost.
>
>When the gas tank on my then 15 year old Buick needed to be replace it
My maz>was about $1000 to repair. That was a necessity. When the AC
went kaput
>a few months later I was thinking about thorwing good money after bad,
>and we could live without AC. If it was really hot we could use the
>other car. When the brakes needed to be replaced it was a safety issue.
>My mechanic did that for under $500. We got another year out of it,and
>that brake job was the only repair of the year, so it was still cheaper
>than replacement.
>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 06:57:58 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> I have two Dysons, one stick and the Dyson Animal. That would seem a
>> lot for 1500sq ft but it works for me
>
>Brand name dropping braggart. LOL
>
>Cheri

Yes, terrible ain't it?

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 10:03:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
>> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
>> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
>> long hose. It can be awkward to carry it around and to move it. It also
>> sometimes kinks, and doing that too often ruins the wiring in it and
>> they cost an arm and half a leg to replace.
>
>OK. If we are having a vacuum contest here, all should know that Julie
>is going to win that hands down. Almost everything in her life sucks.
>:-D

Too funny!

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 08:25:33 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 8/8/2016 7:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-08-08 8:10 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/8/2016 2:15 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners, I'm livin' the life!
>>>
>>>> LOL again. If a dust buster counts, I have three. :P
>>>
>>> Well, I donated my dust buster to Goodwill when I finally
>>> went crazy and bought a second vacuum cleaner. Yeah, that's
>>> me, a benefactress. Hee.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is it bragging to say we have central vac? That thing is great. It has
>> powerful suction but is relatively quiet to use because the works are in
>> the basement. It also has a powerful beater bar. The drawback is the
>> long hose.
>
>OTOH the cable and hose on a conventional canister vac always seemed to
>get tangled or caught in some way so I had a central one installed. I
>would like a small handvac for small spills. I have one that came with
>my power tool package but it's not very effective. I'd like a Dyson but
>I drive a Mazda, not a Mercedes:-)
>Graham

God does this mean I am someone??? I have Dyson and a Mazda - well a
Mazda 2, my younger daughter has the swanky 6 lol

On 2016-08-08 3:11 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:26:47 -0400, Dave Smith
pedestrians approaching from the side.
>>
>> I have a backup camera in my CRV. It came as part of the package when I
>> bought it. There are a lot of bells and whistles on that car that I
>> enjoy and use a lot. I like the moon roof, the tilting steering wheel,
>> AC, stereo with CD, AUX and USB port, rear window defogger, power
>> windows and mirrors, but I can live without the backup camera.
>
> Except for the camera and the moon roof (loathe them as the sun
> triggers my migraine flicking past) my little car has all that stuff.

I didn't think I would like it, and for the same reason. As it turned
out, I rarely even notice it when I am driving, and the odd time it is
an issue, I simply close the inner slider to block it. I also shut both
when It is exceptionally sunny so I don't bake my head and to ease the
load on the AC.

On 2016-08-08, > wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 10:03:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>>OK. If we are having a vacuum contest here, all should know that Julie
>>is going to win that hands down. Almost everything in her life sucks.

> Too funny!

Too easy.

nb

Nancy Young wrote:
>sf wrote:
>>Nancy Young wrote:
>>>l not -l wrote:
>>>>sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> You have to wonder why anyone would think in those terms to begin
>>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder why there are so many braggarts here.
>>>> It appears to correlate with the number of suspicious, judgmental people
>>>> here.
>>>
>>> Bragging about coffee makers, that's a low bar. Not like
>>> someone who mentions their new Mercedes. Ahem.
>>>
>> I didn't talk about driving to the grocery store in my new Mercedes,
>> which would be bragging. We were talking about cars at the time.
>
>It doesn't matter to me what you drive, but you've mentioned it
>more than once. Which is fine except you're jumping on people
>for have more than one $30 something coffee makers like Who is
>going to be jealous of that? Hey, I have two vacuum cleaners,
>I'm livin' the life!

Only two measly vacuum cleaners... I have six... I have an old
Kenmore tank type and an old Kenmore upright (basement vacuums), and a
wonderful Dyson Animal for the main floor... does a Dust Buster and
two Shop Vacs count... one Shop vac lives in the basement and one Shop
Vac lives in the garage. The Dust Buster is a necessary when you have
cats.