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On 8/10/2016 8:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 10:09:49 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>> My second Karmann Ghia was jinxed. I was the third owner and the car was
>> hit seven times but it was never moving when hit. I bought it from my
>> brother. He had the rounded nose fixed and the next day it was hit in
>> the rear and pushed up on the sidewalk. Parked on the corner of my
>> street it was hit for the last time during the night. Sold the engine
>> and junked the body.
>>
>> My first, a '64 Ghia I bought for $15 and it rusted away. A
>> convertible, I could hold the windshield frame and make the front
>> fenders rock. Fun to drive though except in the winter as the heat was
>> rusted out.
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> Do you not have laws about the state of your cars??? Ours have to be
>> tested
>> every year

>
> Yes, but it is a joke. The shop I went to always said you needed a
> headlight adjustment and put the sticker on after they "adjusted"
> them. Another shop checked your brakes by pushing the pedal down
> while he scraped off the old sticker.
>
> ---------------
>
> Did you see the link I posted earlier to Cindy about what happens when
> we have our annual MOT?
>
> If the car doesn't pass any of those things, it isn't allowed on the
> road. I rather think I prefer that
>
>
>

That is what was supposed to be checked here too. Some legitimate shops
did, others did the visible stuff like lights so they would not be
obviously cheating if the state was watching. You also had shops that
told you the car needed expensive work but it was just a scam.

I bet your inspection system, if done by independent shops, has a lot of
fraud too. Always somebody looking for the quick easy buck.
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On 8/10/2016 8:52 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
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> We could get a certification from a repair shop once the fixed
> whatever it is you failed. The guy in town looked the other way
> for me on emissions, too expensive to fix on that aged car and I
> really only drove it a couple of miles a week. Doesn't make it
> right but I didn't care.
>
> nancy



We have strange laws. If you can't meet the emissions you have to get
your car fixed. OK, makes sense. If the repair would exceed $865 you
get a waiver and can continue to pollute.
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On 8/10/2016 8:52 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

> We always had our testing done by the state, no conflict of interest
> problems.


Maybe. Some things checked are subjective. NJ used to have the state
doing the testing. A friend that lived there failed. He sent his wife
wearing a low cut blouse and it passed. Same thing the next year.

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On 8/10/2016 1:03 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/10/2016 8:52 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> We could get a certification from a repair shop once the fixed
>> whatever it is you failed. The guy in town looked the other way
>> for me on emissions, too expensive to fix on that aged car and I
>> really only drove it a couple of miles a week. Doesn't make it
>> right but I didn't care.


> We have strange laws. If you can't meet the emissions you have to get
> your car fixed. OK, makes sense. If the repair would exceed $865 you
> get a waiver and can continue to pollute.


That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car with
emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
new car to get to work.

But sense doesn't usually count with things like that.

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When I lived in Oklahoma for a couple years, we had to get inspection stickers,
every year, I think.

Here in Iowa, nope, no inspections. No motorcycle helmet law anymore, either,
which makes for a lot of donor-cycles on the roads. And yet we have one of the
lowest vehicle insurance rates in the country, or so I have been told. Go figure.

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> It's this one, very easy to use.
>
> Cheri
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R5LVVA...=vegainmelb-20
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Thanks very much! I'll have a look at that, it looks really useful!
>
> Certainly better than my sponge on a stick <g>


I had a lot of those too O, but I hated them because they just seemed to
move the dirt around, then the hands and knees thing for waxing years ago
(none of that now with the new floors) but I really like this for my use.
With just the two of us, not having to do it every other day.

Cheri

----------------------------

I have been looking on line. There are a few out there and I have been be
taking note

It is difficult for me to kneel because I've had knee replacements in both,
but I have one of these:

http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebas...el-easy-911294

... and I can manage to 'kneel' on my shins. It is tiring though and I
rarely do it because fortunately D does most of the floor stuff for me I
do use it in when I am working in the garden though. I can turn it upside
down when I get tired and just enjoy sitting on it <g>

I would still like one of those scrubbers though. )




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On 8/10/2016 8:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 10:09:49 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> My second Karmann Ghia was jinxed. I was the third owner and the car was
>> hit seven times but it was never moving when hit. I bought it from my
>> brother. He had the rounded nose fixed and the next day it was hit in
>> the rear and pushed up on the sidewalk. Parked on the corner of my
>> street it was hit for the last time during the night. Sold the engine
>> and junked the body.
>>
>> My first, a '64 Ghia I bought for $15 and it rusted away. A
>> convertible, I could hold the windshield frame and make the front
>> fenders rock. Fun to drive though except in the winter as the heat was
>> rusted out.
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> Do you not have laws about the state of your cars??? Ours have to be
>> tested
>> every year

>
> Yes, but it is a joke. The shop I went to always said you needed a
> headlight adjustment and put the sticker on after they "adjusted"
> them. Another shop checked your brakes by pushing the pedal down
> while he scraped off the old sticker.
>
> ---------------
>
> Did you see the link I posted earlier to Cindy about what happens when
> we have our annual MOT?
>
> If the car doesn't pass any of those things, it isn't allowed on the
> road. I rather think I prefer that
>
>
>

That is what was supposed to be checked here too. Some legitimate shops
did, others did the visible stuff like lights so they would not be
obviously cheating if the state was watching. You also had shops that
told you the car needed expensive work but it was just a scam.

I bet your inspection system, if done by independent shops, has a lot of
fraud too. Always somebody looking for the quick easy buck.

Ed Pawlowski

-----------------------

It wouldn't surprise me at all. It is important to have a trusted one. We
have used the same garage for our cars for many years and have never had any
problems.



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On 8/10/2016 1:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> It is difficult for me to kneel because I've had knee replacements in both,
> but I have one of these:
>
> http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebas...el-easy-911294
>

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Folding-Portable-Garden-Kneeler-Padded/dp/B01F5QSDTI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1470851542&sr=8-4&keywords=garden+kneeler>

Mine is like this one - it can fold up and be hung in the garage.
Actually, I use it more for sitting, than kneeling (I've built a lot of
raised beds).

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
>> It's this one, very easy to use.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R5LVVA...=vegainmelb-20
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> Thanks very much! I'll have a look at that, it looks really useful!
>>
>> Certainly better than my sponge on a stick <g>

>
> I had a lot of those too O, but I hated them because they just seemed to
> move the dirt around, then the hands and knees thing for waxing years ago
> (none of that now with the new floors) but I really like this for my use.
> With just the two of us, not having to do it every other day.
>
> Cheri
>
> ----------------------------
>
> I have been looking on line. There are a few out there and I have been be
> taking note
>
> It is difficult for me to kneel because I've had knee replacements in
> both,
> but I have one of these:
>
> http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebas...el-easy-911294
>
> .. and I can manage to 'kneel' on my shins. It is tiring though and I
> rarely do it because fortunately D does most of the floor stuff for me
> I
> do use it in when I am working in the garden though. I can turn it upside
> down when I get tired and just enjoy sitting on it <g>
>
> I would still like one of those scrubbers though. )


I don't kneel at all anymore and hope not to, unless of course I fall. ;-)
Seriously, dh does vacuuming, and he does the gardening now (though I'm
still not over the fact that he pruned my beautiful hydrangea way back in
May so no blooms this year but he just didn't know) so I do keep and eye
out.

Cheri

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"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
>> It's this one, very easy to use.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R5LVVA...=vegainmelb-20
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> Thanks very much! I'll have a look at that, it looks really useful!
>>
>> Certainly better than my sponge on a stick <g>

>
> I had a lot of those too O, but I hated them because they just seemed to
> move the dirt around, then the hands and knees thing for waxing years ago
> (none of that now with the new floors) but I really like this for my use.
> With just the two of us, not having to do it every other day.
>
> Cheri
>
> ----------------------------
>
> I have been looking on line. There are a few out there and I have been be
> taking note
>
> It is difficult for me to kneel because I've had knee replacements in
> both,
> but I have one of these:
>
> http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebas...el-easy-911294
>
> .. and I can manage to 'kneel' on my shins. It is tiring though and I
> rarely do it because fortunately D does most of the floor stuff for me I
> do use it in when I am working in the garden though. I can turn it upside
> down when I get tired and just enjoy sitting on it <g>
>
> I would still like one of those scrubbers though. )


I don't kneel at all anymore and hope not to, unless of course I fall. ;-)
Seriously, dh does vacuuming, and he does the gardening now (though I'm
still not over the fact that he pruned my beautiful hydrangea way back in
May so no blooms this year but he just didn't know) so I do keep and eye
out.

Cheri

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Sounds lovely) I can't say I am too far off that <g>

We are very lucky)

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On 8/10/2016 1:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> It is difficult for me to kneel because I've had knee replacements in
> both,
> but I have one of these:
>
> http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebas...el-easy-911294
>

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Folding-Portable-Garden-Kneeler-Padded/dp/B01F5QSDTI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1470851542&sr=8-4&keywords=garden+kneeler>

Mine is like this one - it can fold up and be hung in the garage.
Actually, I use it more for sitting, than kneeling (I've built a lot of
raised beds).
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Cool I'm getting there)


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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 8/10/2016 8:52 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> We could get a certification from a repair shop once the fixed
>> whatever it is you failed. The guy in town looked the other way
>> for me on emissions, too expensive to fix on that aged car and I
>> really only drove it a couple of miles a week. Doesn't make it
>> right but I didn't care.
>>
>> nancy

>
>
> We have strange laws. If you can't meet the emissions you have to get
> your car fixed. OK, makes sense. If the repair would exceed $865 you get
> a waiver and can continue to pollute.


I think it's like that here or similar. At least it used to be. I only ever
had one car that didn't pass. That was many years ago. I think back then
they only required you to spend $250 to fix it. Of course, you could spend
less if that's what it took to pass.

One of my cars passed once and then they told me that I needed to take it to
the shop. My muffler was just hanging there, disconnected.

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In article >, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car with
> emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
> new car to get to work.


In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
Communist philosophy to me, and I don't admire him for it.
Let the state do its own damned enforcement without us ratting out
strangers, friends and family over a vehicle violation.
We are also one of the states that just made it a violation to sip
coffee among many other things while driving. "1984" is coming true.

> But sense doesn't usually count with things like that.


Amen.

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> "1984" is coming true.


Coming true? It was a done deal at least 15 years ago.


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On 8/11/2016 7:13 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car with
>> emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
>> new car to get to work.

>
> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
> license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
> proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
> Communist philosophy to me,


Squit, twaddle and bunkum!

and I don't admire him for it.
> Let the state do its own damned enforcement without us ratting out
> strangers, friends and family over a vehicle violation.
> We are also one of the states that just made it a violation to sip
> coffee among many other things while driving. "1984" is coming true.
>

It's called: "Distracted driving!" It's at least as dangerous as driving
over the limit!
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On 8/11/2016 9:13 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car with
>> emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
>> new car to get to work.

>
> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
> license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
> proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
> Communist philosophy to me, and I don't admire him for it.


That is not nice. It would be nice if he had something like
that come back to bite him on the butt. Karma being a bitch,
as they say.

> Let the state do its own damned enforcement without us ratting out
> strangers, friends and family over a vehicle violation.
> We are also one of the states that just made it a violation to sip
> coffee among many other things while driving. "1984" is coming true.


I don't know about where you live, but here, I'd be damned happy
if they'd enforce the no cell phone while driving law we already
have. I'm pretty sure people won't be pulled over for changing
the radio or sipping coffee.

People are already up in arms about the proposed law, I don't think
it'll pass, but we'll see. I think they're still red in the face
over the runny egg law that got them laughed at a while back.

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In article > , Bruce
> wrote:

> Just because you don't like communism, doesn't mean this has anything to
> do with communism.


I'm posting:

Says who?
[Ob:Food] Beef stew and some sort of new to me Oroweat Italian bread
that tastes just like white bread, but the slices are smaller.

But was going to post:

[No, it doesn't. It is just a important tool in both Communism and
Nazism. Rat on your neighbor is a unpleasant byproduct of collectivism.

Are you useful or on the dole?
Do you seek validation by snitching on others?
Do you suffer from schadenfreude?
Do you suffer from envy?
Do you suffer from inferiority?
Do you let others determine what you think?

If you suffer from more than one of the above, you're probably a full
throttle collectivist and the reason that America is going to hell. I
can't speak for other countries.]

Luckily, I stopped myself.

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> Ratting on your neighbour is universal. You don't have to be a communist
> to be an asshole.


Wow! Thank you! I misread your post and am too politically correct to
call a spade a spade. I'll work on that.

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On 2016-08-12, Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:

> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
> license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
> proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
> Communist philosophy to me, and I don't admire him for it.
> Let the state do its own damned enforcement without us ratting out
> strangers, friends and family over a vehicle violation.
> We are also one of the states that just made it a violation to sip
> coffee among many other things while driving. "1984" is coming true.


It's yer own damn fault. Who the Hell lives in Nevada!?

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On 2016-08-12, graham > wrote:

> It's called: "Distracted driving!" It's at least as dangerous as driving
> over the limit!


You mean like sipping yer 7-11 coffee or tuning yer radio or looking
at the instrument cluster, which the Japanese keep annoyingly placing
in the middle of the dashboard with all their other computer crap?
Izzat anything like an entire laptop ("SCHMODS") in a police cruiser
or the 2-way radios on almost any govt vehicle. BTW, all these govt
ppl get ZERO training on any of this junk.

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On 2016-08-11 10:39 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Let the state do its own damned enforcement without us ratting out
>> strangers, friends and family over a vehicle violation.
>> We are also one of the states that just made it a violation to sip
>> coffee among many other things while driving. "1984" is coming true.

>
> I don't know about where you live, but here, I'd be damned happy
> if they'd enforce the no cell phone while driving law we already
> have. I'm pretty sure people won't be pulled over for changing
> the radio or sipping coffee.
>
> People are already up in arms about the proposed law, I don't think
> it'll pass, but we'll see. I think they're still red in the face
> over the runny egg law that got them laughed at a while back.
>


Using a hands on cell phone or texting has been illegal here for a
couple years. There does not seem to be a heck of a lot of enforcement,
but due to a very obvious lack of compliance the recently doubled the
fine to $490 plus 3 demerit points. For repeat offenders they can issue
a summons and get a fine up to $1000.

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On 8/11/2016 10:39 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> I don't know about where you live, but here, I'd be damned happy
> if they'd enforce the no cell phone while driving law we already
> have. I'm pretty sure people won't be pulled over for changing
> the radio or sipping coffee.
>
> People are already up in arms about the proposed law, I don't think
> it'll pass, but we'll see. I think they're still red in the face
> over the runny egg law that got them laughed at a while back.
>
> nancy


The runny egg law. <giggling> It's like trying to force everyone to
eat a steak or a hamburger *well done*. Sorry, we're (most of us)
adults here. I, for one, have never, ever been sick from eating a runny
egg. I have also never gotten sick because I ate a steak or a burger
rare or medium rare.

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On 8/12/2016 12:17 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-08-12, Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:
>
>> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
>> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
>> license plate number to the appropriate authority.

(snippage)
>
> It's yer own damn fault. Who the Hell lives in Nevada!?
>
> nb
>

Ben Cartright! and his sons, Adam, Hoss and Little Joe. And sometimes a
hand named Candy. They have a spread right outside of Virginia City.
They occasionally go into town to gamble. Which is what people in
Nevada seem to be doing with lots of people driving vehicles that smoke,
do crack, etc. Uh... LOL

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On 2016-08-12, jmcquown > wrote:

> Ben Cartright! and his sons, Adam, Hoss and Little Joe. And sometimes a
> hand named Candy.


.....all dead! Yeah, that's who I wanna emulate. (not)

I have a friend who recently moved to Carson City. I needle 'im,
unmercifully.

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On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:25:12 +1000, Bruce >
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says...
>>
>> In article >, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car with
>> > emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
>> > new car to get to work.

>>
>> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
>> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
>> license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
>> proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
>> Communist philosophy to me

>
>Just because you don't like communism, doesn't mean this has anything to
>do with communism.


Has not a whit to do with communism, instead it typifies a perfect
democracy, where the masses play a active part to insure that the
miscrants among us who are wreaking havoc upon the responsible
majority are made accountable. The creeps driving unsafe vehicals
present danger to everyone. It's rare those driving with baldy tires
and lousy brakes cause accidents where they suffer injury, instead
they harm innocents. Driving is not a right, it's a privilege that
must be earned... I don't care an iota what the creeps can't afford...
WALK!
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On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 8:23:33 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:25:12 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> In article >, Nancy Young
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car with
> >> > emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
> >> > new car to get to work.
> >>
> >> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
> >> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
> >> license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
> >> proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
> >> Communist philosophy to me

> >
> >Just because you don't like communism, doesn't mean this has anything to
> >do with communism.

>
> Has not a whit to do with communism, instead it typifies a perfect
> democracy, where the masses play a active part to insure that the
> miscrants among us who are wreaking havoc upon the responsible
> majority are made accountable. The creeps driving unsafe vehicals
> present danger to everyone. It's rare those driving with baldy tires
> and lousy brakes cause accidents where they suffer injury, instead
> they harm innocents. Driving is not a right, it's a privilege that
> must be earned... I don't care an iota what the creeps can't afford...
> WALK!


The question is whether it is nobler to let others go about their business or to be a dirty rat-******* stoolie. The answer to that should be obvious to anybody from Brooklyn.
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There are a lot of people who themselves smoke, in Nevada.....lol.

N.
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On 2016-08-12 1:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> People are already up in arms about the proposed law, I don't think
>> it'll pass, but we'll see. I think they're still red in the face
>> over the runny egg law that got them laughed at a while back.
>>
>> nancy

>
> The runny egg law. <giggling> It's like trying to force everyone to
> eat a steak or a hamburger *well done*. Sorry, we're (most of us)
> adults here. I, for one, have never, ever been sick from eating a runny
> egg. I have also never gotten sick because I ate a steak or a burger
> rare or medium rare.


I don't like well done eggs. I prefer my scrambled eggs wet, and if a
sunny side up is not a little bit snotty it is overcooked for me. Those
brown bits that most people get on omelets.... I find them really nasty.



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On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:03:10 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 8/11/2016 10:39 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> I don't know about where you live, but here, I'd be damned happy
>> if they'd enforce the no cell phone while driving law we already
>> have. I'm pretty sure people won't be pulled over for changing
>> the radio or sipping coffee.
>>
>> People are already up in arms about the proposed law, I don't think
>> it'll pass, but we'll see. I think they're still red in the face
>> over the runny egg law that got them laughed at a while back.

>
>The runny egg law. <giggling> It's like trying to force everyone to
>eat a steak or a hamburger *well done*.


I thought this was some sort of joke until I looked it up. Wow. I
guess Steak Tartare was out of the question back then.

>Sorry, we're (most of us)
>adults here. I, for one, have never, ever been sick from eating a runny
>egg. I have also never gotten sick because I ate a steak or a burger
>rare or medium rare.


Neither have I.


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On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:49:16 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-12 1:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> People are already up in arms about the proposed law, I don't think
>>> it'll pass, but we'll see. I think they're still red in the face
>>> over the runny egg law that got them laughed at a while back.
>>>
>>> nancy

>>
>> The runny egg law. <giggling> It's like trying to force everyone to
>> eat a steak or a hamburger *well done*. Sorry, we're (most of us)
>> adults here. I, for one, have never, ever been sick from eating a runny
>> egg. I have also never gotten sick because I ate a steak or a burger
>> rare or medium rare.

>
>I don't like well done eggs. I prefer my scrambled eggs wet, and if a
>sunny side up is not a little bit snotty it is overcooked for me. Those
>brown bits that most people get on omelets.... I find them really nasty.


Agree, overcooked eggs are awful. Really changes the taste... and not
in a good way. Even though I like quiche, most taste too 'eggy' to me
and I suspect it's partly the fact that it gets cooked for so long
that makes the egg so dominant and changing the egg's flavour.
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In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:25:12 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> > That's funny! It makes sense in that the people driving a car

with
> >> > emission problems is more likely to be the one who can't afford a
> >> > new car to get to work.
> >>
> >> In Nevada, we're encouraged to turn in vehicles that seem to be smoking
> >> from the exhaust, have a cracked windshield, etc.. Just call in the
> >> license plate number to the appropriate authority. I know a man that is
> >> proud to do that. Civic duty and all. His attitude smacks of Nazi and
> >> Communist philosophy to me

> >
> >Just because you don't like communism, doesn't mean this has anything to
> >do with communism.

>
> Has not a whit to do with communism, instead it typifies a perfect
> democracy, where the masses play a active part to insure that the
> miscrants among us who are wreaking havoc upon the responsible
> majority are made accountable. The creeps driving unsafe vehicals
> present danger to everyone. It's rare those driving with baldy tires
> and lousy brakes cause accidents where they suffer injury, instead
> they harm innocents. Driving is not a right, it's a privilege that
> must be earned... I don't care an iota what the creeps can't afford...
> WALK!


Yes, but the examples LB gave ("smoking from the exhaust, have a cracked
windshield") aren't things that are likely to cause an accident. The
windshield maybe if you're very unlucky.
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