On 7/28/2016 5:22 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>>
>> There was a just a huge butt woman talking at the democratic convewntion.
>>
>
> They are all huge buttheads.
Only the ones imitating Trump:-)

I like neither hillary or trump.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 17:59:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>I like neither hillary or trump.

You don't like adding the slightest bit of context to your posts
either.

On 7/28/2016 8:59 PM, wrote:
> I like neither hillary or trump.
>

Many of us are in that situation. No matter who wins, we are screwed.
I keep hoping a savior will pop up.

Much as I dislike Biden, he would be a better choice. How about Biden
versus Condi Rice?

On 7/28/2016 9:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> Still avoiding admitting that your daughter shouldn't be drinking
> coffee.
>
> -sw
>

At 18 I don't see that as a problem unless she is drinking 10 cups a day.

On 7/28/2016 7:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/28/2016 8:59 PM, wrote:
>> I like neither hillary or trump.
>>
>
> Many of us are in that situation. No matter who wins, we are screwed. I
> keep hoping a savior will pop up.
>
> Much as I dislike Biden, he would be a better choice. How about Biden
> versus Condi Rice?

ISTM that you all are worried about who makes it to the oval office when
you should concern yourself about the bozos who end up in Congress.

> wrote in message
...
>I like neither hillary or trump.

Ditto.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/28/2016 8:59 PM, wrote:
>> I like neither hillary or trump.
>>
>
> Many of us are in that situation. No matter who wins, we are screwed. I
> keep hoping a savior will pop up.
>
> Much as I dislike Biden, he would be a better choice. How about Biden
> versus Condi Rice?

I'm going to keep checking either Green or Libertarian. So far, more seem to
be going Libertarian but some of the Bernie or Bust said they'd do Green.
Whichever seems to have more on their side is who I will probably go with. I
realize they're not likely to win but I will not vote for either of those
to. That being said... I still have a feeling that something earth shaking
will still happen and then things will change.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:19:40 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:16:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:39:20 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:25:19 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking
>>>>>>>>>> distance
>>>>>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they
>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>> drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's no
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caffeine is a gateway drug. It has different effects on adolescent
>>>>>>>> brains than it does on adults. It actually increases the effects
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> cocaine and makes it more addictive. Kids should not be using and
>>>>>>>> getting addicted to caffeine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...y-drug-cocaine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I guess it's OK if all the other kids are doing it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Riiiiiiiight. I never tried cocaine and never would. Even though at
>>>>>>> times it
>>>>>>> was very readily available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The facts are hard for you to digest, I know. Obviously not
>>>>>> everybody
>>>>>> who abuses caffeine also abuses cocaine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But hey, if you want to let your overweight kid get hooked on
>>>>>> caffeine, then go for it even though it's not healthy for her -
>>>>>> mentally or physically.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU actually have the nerve to talk about her overweight kid? That's
>>>>> rich.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. I've seen pics of him and he has mentioned the large portions
>>>> of
>>>> foods that he eats.
>>>
>>> My weight has nothing to do with your daughter's weight and the fact
>>> that caffeine is not healthy for an overweight teen.
>>>
>>> Cheri herself probably weighs in excess of 300 pounds which is why
>>> she's a miserable person with a hard-on for me.
>>
>> What a nasty piece of work you are!
>
> Still avoiding admitting that your daughter shouldn't be drinking
> coffee.

There is NO reason she can't have coffee.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/28/2016 9:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>
>> Still avoiding admitting that your daughter shouldn't be drinking
>> coffee.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> At 18 I don't see that as a problem unless she is drinking 10 cups a day.

She doesn't even have one cup per day.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:16:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:39:20 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:25:19 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking
>>>>>>>>> distance
>>>>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>> drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's no
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Caffeine is a gateway drug. It has different effects on adolescent
>>>>>>> brains than it does on adults. It actually increases the effects of
>>>>>>> cocaine and makes it more addictive. Kids should not be using and
>>>>>>> getting addicted to caffeine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...y-drug-cocaine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I guess it's OK if all the other kids are doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Riiiiiiiight. I never tried cocaine and never would. Even though at
>>>>>> times it
>>>>>> was very readily available.
>>>>>
>>>>> The facts are hard for you to digest, I know. Obviously not everybody
>>>>> who abuses caffeine also abuses cocaine.
>>>>>
>>>>> But hey, if you want to let your overweight kid get hooked on
>>>>> caffeine, then go for it even though it's not healthy for her -
>>>>> mentally or physically.
>>>>
>>>> YOU actually have the nerve to talk about her overweight kid? That's
>>>> rich.
>>>
>>> Indeed. I've seen pics of him and he has mentioned the large portions of
>>> foods that he eats.
>>
>> My weight has nothing to do with your daughter's weight and the fact
>> that caffeine is not healthy for an overweight teen.
>>
>> Cheri herself probably weighs in excess of 300 pounds which is why
>> she's a miserable person with a hard-on for me.
>
> What a nasty piece of work you are!

He would be if he wasn't so hilarious. He is to laugh at on a regular basis.


Cheri

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> There is NO reason she can't have coffee.
>
> Other than it's an unnecessary drug that causes high blood pressure,
> increased heart rate, insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach
> irritation, nausea and vomiting... All things that aren't healthy for
> physical development.

Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once. That did make me sick
and I never took them again.
>
> What are the benefits?
>
> Better to get kids hooked while they're young so they can die sooner.
> Anyway, I'm done. You know it's not healthy, you just want your
> daughter to have as many ailments as you claim to have. Misery loves
> company.

Good. Be done. You're flat out wrong.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
>the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once. That did make me sick
>and I never took them again.

Lucky. You were only one step away from coffee enemas. From there,
only a matter of time before you have been eventually found dead with
a syringe and a can of Folgers in some seedy back alley.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>>normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
>>the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once. That did make me
>>sick
>>and I never took them again.
>
> Lucky. You were only one step away from coffee enemas. From there,
> only a matter of time before you have been eventually found dead with
> a syringe and a can of Folgers in some seedy back alley.

Well, that's not true. What is true is that I got a phone call from someone
I will not name. She asked me how to get coffee stains out of her underwear.
She's in her 80's now. She survived it. I have no clue what led her to doing
the enemas and I don't want to know.

If coffee really was that bad for people, we would have lost most of the
population of this state.

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:07:17 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>>>normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
>>>the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once. That did make me
>>>sick
>>>and I never took them again.
>>
>> Lucky. You were only one step away from coffee enemas. From there,
>> only a matter of time before you have been eventually found dead with
>> a syringe and a can of Folgers in some seedy back alley.
>
>Well, that's not true.

Well... perhaps not.

>What is true is that I got a phone call from someone
>I will not name. She asked me how to get coffee stains out of her underwear.
>She's in her 80's now. She survived it. I have no clue what led her to doing
>the enemas and I don't want to know.

Some people do strange things. I once met a Japanese woman who drank
her own urine (health benefits apparently) and wore a medical type
mask to filter the perfectly good air in country Queensland. Just off
the planet.

>If coffee really was that bad for people, we would have lost most of the
>population of this state.

I never said coffee is bad, but you still need to keep it in some sort
of moderation. These caffeinated drinks like Red Bull OTOH certainly
are bad for you IMO.

On 2016-07-29 9:03 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:07:17 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:

>> If coffee really was that bad for people, we would have lost most of the
>> population of this state.
>
> I never said coffee is bad, but you still need to keep it in some sort
> of moderation. These caffeinated drinks like Red Bull OTOH certainly
> are bad for you IMO.
>


Some of us have speculated on the nature of Julie's mental issues.
Perhaps this helps to explain it.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:39:43 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Some of these people are spending $40 to $80 a month,
> maybe more. I'm too frugal (cheap?) to buy coffee every day when I can
> make it myself for pennies.

They're on their way to or on a break from their office jobs, making
decent money, and what they spend it on is their business.
Personally, the drinks that Starbucks makes their Bigbucks on don't
interest me. Plain coffee with cream & sugar that I add to my taste
is as fancy as I get, and it's not a $4 drink.

--

sf

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
> > normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
> > the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>
> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
> problems you have now.

That was my thought. I remember the old caffeine pills...No Dose. And
she took almost a full bottle once? Why in the world would someone take
a full bottle of those except for maybe a death by caffeine wish.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> No Starbucks, but our town of 10,000 has three Dunkin Donuts. I can see
> it as a treat once in a while, but you can make top notch coffee at home
> much cheaper. Some of these people are spending $40 to $80 a month,
> maybe more. I'm too frugal (cheap?) to buy coffee every day when I can
> make it myself for pennies.


I use SB when I'm "on the road", e.g. when I'm running around going to meetings or events or whatever...here in Chicago they're thick as flies, so there's always one handy. I prolly spend about $50.00/month there...and yeah, I'm a "Gold" member, lol...

SB is "consistent", e.g. I can always get the exact iced tea or Thai Chicken Wrap or Rice Krispie treat or whatever that I like, plus they've got reliable wifi and are open very early, e.g. 5-6:00 AM and stay open until 9-10:00 PM...

I rarely go there just to "hang out" anymore, but SB is a boon sometimes. This past summer has been hot so when I do my shopping at Trader Joe's I'll hit the adjacent SB's for an iced drink and some frigid A/C as a break between TJ's and lugging the vittles home (I am car-less, walk or public transit everywhere)...same in winter, can be a cozy and warm break from doing errands during our arctic winters.

There are of course TONS of coffee places around, especially small independent ones. But many have wierd hours, their service and product can be quite variable. Tried a new one recently, people raved about it, but when I proffered my debit card to pay for the iced coffee, I got the "Sorry, we don't accept cards for purchases under $5.00...BUT there is an ATM across the way at the 7 - 11..." So I simply turned heel and exited, I'm not going to make a special trip to an ATM just because the owner is too cheap to accept small card charges.

And I gotta tell ya, Dunkin' Donuts has TERRIBLE coffee, have bought containers of it several times for the office, it never fails to not satisy...

For my iced home brewed coffee - and iced is all I drink, even in winter - I use Cafe Bustelo, a 10 oz. brick/can is like $2.78 at Aldi's. It's a spectacular product, rich and flavorful and strong AND at a give - away price. The yellow and red artwork is very cool, too, I have in fact a Bustelo canister on my desk, it holds office supplies. Cafe Bustelo is one of my "favorite things to buy"...

--
Best
Greg

On 7/28/2016 10:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>> There is NO reason she can't have coffee.
>
> Other than it's an unnecessary drug that causes high blood pressure,
> increased heart rate, insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach
> irritation, nausea and vomiting... All things that aren't healthy for
> physical development.
>
> What are the benefits?
>
> Better to get kids hooked while they're young so they can die sooner.
> Anyway, I'm done. You know it's not healthy, you just want your
> daughter to have as many ailments as you claim to have. Misery loves
> company.
>
> -sw
>

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270202.php
The potential health benefits associated with drinking coffee include:
protecting against type 2 diabetes, Parkinson's disease, liver disease,
liver cancer, and promoting a healthy heart

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/fe...-food?page=2#1

On 7/29/2016 9:03 AM, Je�us wrote:

>
> I never said coffee is bad, but you still need to keep it in some sort
> of moderation. These caffeinated drinks like Red Bull OTOH certainly
> are bad for you IMO.
>

Sensible approach. Moderation is important.

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:01:31 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/29/2016 9:03 AM, Je?us wrote:
>> I never said coffee is bad, but you still need to keep it in some sort
>> of moderation. These caffeinated drinks like Red Bull OTOH certainly
>> are bad for you IMO.
>>
>
>Sensible approach. Moderation is important.

Having said that...

I got about three hours sleep last night and have to head out shortly
(@ 7:30AM)... the three double lattes this morning have helped
considerably to get me going

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:59:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/28/2016 10:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> There is NO reason she can't have coffee.
>>
>> Other than it's an unnecessary drug that causes high blood pressure,
>> increased heart rate, insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach
>> irritation, nausea and vomiting... All things that aren't healthy for
>> physical development.
>>
>> What are the benefits?
>>
>> Better to get kids hooked while they're young so they can die sooner.
>> Anyway, I'm done. You know it's not healthy, you just want your
>> daughter to have as many ailments as you claim to have. Misery loves
>> company.
>>
>http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270202.php
>The potential health benefits associated with drinking coffee include:
>protecting against type 2 diabetes, Parkinson's disease, liver disease,
>liver cancer, and promoting a healthy heart
>
>http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/fe...-food?page=2#1

Yep. IMO coffee is at least benign if not actually beneficial in
reasonable doses.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>> normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance
>> to
>> the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>
> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
> problems you have now.

Skittish? I have never been skittish. I was anemic two times. Both due to
medical reasons I won't get into here. And there was only one period of time
when I couldn't eat. It started with a violent stomach illness, the cause of
which was never determind.
>
> Misery loves company.

I guess you would know.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>> > normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance
>> > to
>> > the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>>
>> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
>> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
>> problems you have now.
>
> That was my thought. I remember the old caffeine pills...No Dose. And
> she took almost a full bottle once? Why in the world would someone take
> a full bottle of those except for maybe a death by caffeine wish.

That was the stuff. I was very busy as a teen. I was in a variety of school
things after school and I had a job. The job required me to quite often work
nights. I might get off of work at 4:00 a.m. and have to go to school right
after. I was seriously sleep deprived my senior year and coffee wasn't
enough to help. The caffeine pills did help but as I said... I built up a
tolerance to them and had to keep taking more and more.

I took the large dose following graduation. We went to a party at my
friend's beach house after that. I probably hadn't eaten well. I don't
recall eating dinner due to the time of the ceremony. The ferries in those
days did have food service but I doubt it was operating by the time we
boarded. I may have purchased something from a machine. Likely candy.

We did bring food to the party but that was so many years ago, I don't
remember what. So eating stuff that wasn't a real meal then taking all the
pills to stay up all night did not work for me. I remember sleeping all day
once I got home.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:28:41 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
>>> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
>>> problems you have now.
>>
>> That was my thought. I remember the old caffeine pills...No Dose. And
>> she took almost a full bottle once? Why in the world would someone take
>> a full bottle of those except for maybe a death by caffeine wish.
>
> She's exaggerating, as usual.
>
> Screw the caffeine pills and coffee. We took black beauties and
> yellow jackets when we were kids.

I don't even know what those are. I have heard the first term before.

On 7/29/2016 12:57 PM, The Greatest! wrote:

> SB is "consistent", e.g. I can always get the exact iced tea or Thai Chicken Wrap or Rice Krispie treat or whatever that I like, plus they've got reliable wifi and are open very early, e.g. 5-6:00 AM and stay open until 9-10:00 PM...
>
> I rarely go there just to "hang out" anymore, but SB is a boon sometimes. This past summer has been hot so when I do my shopping at Trader Joe's I'll hit the adjacent SB's for an iced drink and some frigid A/C as a break between TJ's and lugging the vittles home (I am car-less, walk or public transit everywhere)...same in winter, can be a cozy and warm break from doing errands during our arctic winters.
>
> There are of course TONS of coffee places around, especially small independent ones. But many have wierd hours, their service and product can be quite variable. Tried a new one recently, people raved about it, but when I proffered my debit card to pay for the iced coffee, I got the "Sorry, we don't accept cards for purchases under $5.00...BUT there is an ATM across the way at the 7 - 11..." So I simply turned heel and exited, I'm not going to make a special trip to an ATM just because the owner is too cheap to accept small card charges.
>
> And I gotta tell ya, Dunkin' Donuts has TERRIBLE coffee, have bought containers of it several times for the office, it never fails to not satisy...
>
> For my iced home brewed coffee - and iced is all I drink, even in winter - I use Cafe Bustelo, a 10 oz. brick/can is like $2.78 at Aldi's. It's a spectacular product, rich and flavorful and strong AND at a give - away price. The yellow and red artwork is very cool, too, I have in fact a Bustelo canister on my desk, it holds office supplies. Cafe Bustelo is one of my "favorite things to buy"...
>

I like to go to some of the independent places, but there is a risk/
Some are very good, but there are many rather poor places. Crap shoot.
The chains and franchise operations are a good bet usually clean too.

I see the $5 or $10 minimum posted in many places. Up to $10 is legal.
I see it a lot, but prefer cash for things under $50 or so. Too much
time to reconcile the account with a lot of little charges..

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:03:17 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:07:17 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>>>>>normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance
>>>>>to
>>>>>the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once. That did make me
>>>>>sick
>>>>>and I never took them again.
>>>>
>>>> Lucky. You were only one step away from coffee enemas. From there,
>>>> only a matter of time before you have been eventually found dead with
>>>> a syringe and a can of Folgers in some seedy back alley.
>>>
>>>Well, that's not true.
>>
>>Well... perhaps not.
>>
>>>What is true is that I got a phone call from someone
>>>I will not name. She asked me how to get coffee stains out of her
>>>underwear.
>>>She's in her 80's now. She survived it. I have no clue what led her to
>>>doing
>>>the enemas and I don't want to know.
>>
>>Some people do strange things. I once met a Japanese woman who drank
>>her own urine (health benefits apparently) and wore a medical type
>>mask to filter the perfectly good air in country Queensland. Just off
>>the planet.
>>
>>>If coffee really was that bad for people, we would have lost most of the
>>>population of this state.
>>
>>I never said coffee is bad, but you still need to keep it in some sort
>>of moderation. These caffeinated drinks like Red Bull OTOH certainly
>>are bad for you IMO.
>
> If you try to commit caffeine suicide by drinking coffee, you'll die
> from water poisoning first.

Probably. I do remember making some super strong iced tea in Jr. High. I had
a boring report to do about drugs and I was tired. I used the powdered tea
for iced and put enough water in it to have just slightly thinner than a
paste. The taste was horrible. I made it worse by adding lemon juice, then
orange juice. I drank as much a I could without gagging. Whipped through the
report in no time flat but then began to feel unwell. Really jittery. I
looked the symptoms up in my mom's medical book then laughed. Seems I had
overdosed on caffeine while writing a report on drugs.

I only felt unwell for a few hours. I drank a lot of water after that and it
helped to flush it out of my system.

On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> What I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>
> Rage Away.
>
> -sw
>

Ah, now we get to the root of the problem. Yes, there is some abuse
like that. Not everyone is like that though.

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:30:30 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
> > What I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> > too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> > because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through
> > coffee withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day
> > consumed in some way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't
> > have to put up with that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>
> Luxury problem. They, however, have to put up with you.

hehehe well there's a good point!

I'm a coffee people but not massively so. At work, it's just habit to
start the day with a cup, then I'll sip on it til noon or so (normally
just 1 cup, insulated container). At home, it's 1-2 cups of hot tea
(normally standard Lipton)

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On 7/23/2016 10:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I keep seeing that term bandied about in here and people keep accusing
> me of eating it. But in looking up the term, there does not seem to be
> any one answer. Chevy's Fresh Mex claims to be Tex Mex. We had one here
> years ago. It didn't last very long. We tried it a few times and didn't
> like the food. There was also one in Alameda. My husband did like it but
> Angela and I did not. Have also read that Taco Bell is Tex Mex. Only
> thing they have that I like are the bean burritos but I can't eat them
> due to all of the weird added ingredients. Those are easy enough to make
> at home.
>
> Some sources say that Tex Mex is Americanized dishes smothered in cheese.
>
> My uncle told me that sour cream is never used in Mexico. I think he was
> wrong about that as they have Crema which is very similar.
>
> Janet Wilder used to say that if you weren't eating it if you weren't in
> Texas.
>
> Many of the Mexican restaurants here have sort of a fusion of foods from
> both Mexico and South America. And certainly Americanized dishes such as
> various salads.
>
> So... What is your interpretation of Tex Mex?


Crema is creme fresh, igno-****.

In article >, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
>
> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:30:30 -0500, Sqwertz >
> > wrote:
> > > What I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> > > too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> > > because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through
> > > coffee withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day
> > > consumed in some way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't
> > > have to put up with that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
> >
> > Luxury problem. They, however, have to put up with you.
>
> hehehe well there's a good point!
>
> I'm a coffee people but not massively so. At work, it's just habit to
> start the day with a cup, then I'll sip on it til noon or so (normally
> just 1 cup, insulated container). At home, it's 1-2 cups of hot tea
> (normally standard Lipton)

I have one cup of coffee a day and maybe one cup of camomile, peppermint
or green tea every 2 weeks. I wait until it cools down -which takes
forever with tea- and then drink it in one gulp to get it over and done
with.

On 7/29/2016 11:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>> normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
>> the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>
> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
> problems you have now.
>
> Misery loves company.
>
> -sw
>
You don't suppose this could have any relation to her GERD? Uh... yes.
Took me about 5 seconds to find this:

https://www.google.com/#q=GERD+caffeine

"This is because certain substances irritate the esophagus or weaken the
lower esophageal sphincter (LES), which prevents the backward flow of
stomach contents that causes reflux. Triggers can include: alcohol.
caffeinated products, such as coffee, soda, and tea."

Jill

On 7/28/2016 3:39 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> No Starbucks, but our town of 10,000 has three Dunkin Donuts. I can see
> it as a treat once in a while, but you can make top notch coffee at home
> much cheaper. Some of these people are spending $40 to $80 a month,
> maybe more. I'm too frugal (cheap?) to buy coffee every day when I can
> make it myself for pennies.

I worked with a woman who got very excited when she heard they were
opening a Dunkin Donuts in Beaufort. She said she and her husband love
their coffee. I said you *do* know they sell coffee (ground and beans,
IIRC) under the Dunkin Donuts name in the grocery store, right? "It's
just not the same!" Yeah, because you're going there for donuts, not
because they have fantastic coffee. She was a slender, pretty woman.
(I was surprised to learn she was 70, she didn't look it.) Her husband
was very overweight. Coffee was obviously not his primary interest.

Jill

On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.

I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
no one was ever at their desks actually working.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> > too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> > because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
> > withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
> > way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
> > that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>
> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
> no one was ever at their desks actually working.

Back when I first started college I worked part time at a furniture
store. We didn't have a coffee station, we had a constant beer keg in
the back room. We were a happy bunch and we actually sold quite a bit of
furniture. heheeh I wasn't a salesman, I was the warehouse manager
storing and keep track of stock.

On 8/1/2016 10:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
>> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
>> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
>> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
>> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
>> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>
> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
> no one was ever at their desks actually working.

So long as people get their work done, I don't care. The funny
thing is, you know the type, they come in and it's a whole half
hour/45 minutes getting coffee and a bagel, chatting up everyone
they come across, then they're first with the snide comments about
other people leaving early.

Luckily it was just a small number of people like that where I
worked. Most people just didn't have time for that.

nancy

On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>
>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>
> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?

Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
were at work (and Dad had enlisted).

> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.

Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".

> My mom took hers with mostly milk
> and sugar. Not much coffee. But she never really liked it.

Whatever.

Jill

On 8/1/2016 11:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 10:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
>>> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
>>> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
>>> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
>>> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
>>> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>>
>> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
>> no one was ever at their desks actually working.
>
> So long as people get their work done, I don't care. The funny
> thing is, you know the type, they come in and it's a whole half
> hour/45 minutes getting coffee and a bagel, chatting up everyone
> they come across, then they're first with the snide comments about
> other people leaving early.
>
Leaving early? Those of us who worked the hardest got the
better/requested hours. I requested the early shift, 7:30am so I could
leave at 3:30pm. Plenty of time to get home, hang out on the patio with
a book.

> Luckily it was just a small number of people like that where I
> worked. Most people just didn't have time for that.
>
There are always going to be people who manage to get paid to not do
much. Nothing we can do about it. Only their employers can.

Jill

On 2016-08-01 11:33 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
>>> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
>>> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
>>> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
>>> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
>>> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>>
>> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
>> no one was ever at their desks actually working.
>
> Back when I first started college I worked part time at a furniture
> store. We didn't have a coffee station, we had a constant beer keg in
> the back room. We were a happy bunch and we actually sold quite a bit of
> furniture. heheeh I wasn't a salesman, I was the warehouse manager
> storing and keep track of stock.
>

Alas, those were the days. There were a lot of places where it was not
uncommon for the staff to stick around on a Friday afternoon and have a
few beers, where employers put on Christmas parties... with booze.
Thanks to a number of lawsuits where the employers got pegged for
liability resulting from post party crashes, they are a thing of the past.