On 2016-08-01 11:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 10:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
>>> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
>>> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
>>> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
>>> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
>>> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>>
>> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
>> no one was ever at their desks actually working.
>
> So long as people get their work done, I don't care. The funny
> thing is, you know the type, they come in and it's a whole half
> hour/45 minutes getting coffee and a bagel, chatting up everyone
> they come across, then they're first with the snide comments about
> other people leaving early.
>
> Luckily it was just a small number of people like that where I
> worked. Most people just didn't have time for that.

When I worked in the district equipment section he had a lunch room and
could get coffee before 8 am, at coffee breaks and noon hour. I was on
the road most of the time so when it was time for a break I stopped at a
coffee shop somewhere. When I transferred out of there I worked out of
a satellite office for a while, out of a trailer for a while, and then
we just had a parking lot where we picked up our vehicles. We stopped
at a coffee shop on the way out and that was where we got caught up,
passed mail and reports.

The majority of my co-workers were at work early and often put in a
little OT for free. One sleaze, who did not want to work with anyone
could be counted on to arrive at least a half hour late and leave a half
hour early. The only one who ever got hassled by the boss was a guy who
came in 5-10 minutes late every day. He had trouble getting to work on
time, even though he lived closer than anyone else. However, he used to
stay almost an hour extra every day. The boss only saw him come in late
and he had left for home long before this guy got back to the office and
then made phone calls and filed his paperwork.

On 8/1/2016 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> The only one who ever got hassled by the boss was a guy who came in 5-10
> minutes late every day. He had trouble getting to work on time, even
> though he lived closer than anyone else.

It's funny the excuses some people come up with.

One company I worked, they decided to use a temp agency. Both of the
guys they brought in lived in West Memphis, Arkansas. They each had to
drive the same route to work. One guy was perpetually late. When he
showed up he was rather ungroomed and disheveled. Looking like he'd
slept in his clothes. Could have used a shower, too.

One morning he showed up about two hours late. He blamed it on traffic
driving across the bridge. Funny how the other guy, from the same area
in the same traffic, managed to show up on time. Guess which other
young man became a permanent employee and which one was not invited
back? Heh.

Jill

On 7/28/2016 1:01 PM, Gary wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> Heck, I didn't begin drinking coffee until I joined the military.
>> Usta drink it cuz we gotta 15 min break in the morning and by God, one
>> didn't do nothing at break. So, I smoked and learned to like coffee.
>>
>> Now, all these yrs later, I still wonder what I like about coffee.
>> It's a little like them bay leaves. Jes gotta have it!
>
> About 5 years ago, we had an especially cold spell in the winter.
> Instead of drinking coffee in the morning, I switched to hot chicken
> broth each morning. Loved it.
>
> It was real homemade chicken broth 1.5 cup with one tsp chicken bouillon
> added for more flavor. yum
>
Homemade chicken broth? (as opposed to stock). Never mind.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/29/2016 11:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>>> normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance
>>> to
>>> the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>>
>> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
>> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
>> problems you have now.
>>
>> Misery loves company.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> You don't suppose this could have any relation to her GERD? Uh... yes.
> Took me about 5 seconds to find this:
>
> https://www.google.com/#q=GERD+caffeine
>
> "This is because certain substances irritate the esophagus or weaken the
> lower esophageal sphincter (LES), which prevents the backward flow of
> stomach contents that causes reflux. Triggers can include: alcohol.
> caffeinated products, such as coffee, soda, and tea."

Nope. That doesn't trigger mine at all.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>
>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>
>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>
> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they were
> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>
>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>
> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".

My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>
>> My mom took hers with mostly milk
>> and sugar. Not much coffee. But she never really liked it.
>
> Whatever.
>
> Jill

On 2016-08-01 1:14 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> One company I worked, they decided to use a temp agency. Both of the
> guys they brought in lived in West Memphis, Arkansas. They each had to
> drive the same route to work. One guy was perpetually late. When he
> showed up he was rather ungroomed and disheveled. Looking like he'd
> slept in his clothes. Could have used a shower, too.

One thing I noticed over the years of working was that those who lived
the closest tended to be the last ones in, or late, while those with the
longest drive tended to arrive early.


> One morning he showed up about two hours late. He blamed it on traffic
> driving across the bridge. Funny how the other guy, from the same area
> in the same traffic, managed to show up on time. Guess which other
> young man became a permanent employee and which one was not invited
> back? Heh.

One day we all had to go into the head office in Toronto for 8:30am
meeting. Back then we were working 10 hour shifts starting at 6 am, and
Andy (we'll him that because that was his name), used to show up some
time after 6:10. Knowing how the rush traffic ran, we wanted to leave
the office at 5:45 because we could slip into the city before the heavy
traffic and there was a greasy spoon across the street where we could
grab breakfast.

Andy wanted to ride with us. Knowing that he was always late we stressed
that we were leaving at 5:45. He acknowledged it, but everyone repeated
it.... 5:45. We were leaving at 5:45 and if he was not there when we
left he would have to get in on his own.

The next morning most of us were there by 5:30. I got the keys for a
cruiser, did the pretrip, started it up to warm up and we left at
5:45.... without Andy, because he didn't show up. We got to the head
office by 7:30, went across the street for a nice leisurely breakfast
and then back to the office in time for the meeting at 8:30.

Andy showed up at 9:15. Not only was he 45 minutes late, but he was mad
at us for having left without him. We told him we had been serious
about leaving at 5:45 but he said we should have waited? How long
should we have waited? ... 5 minutes, 10... 30? It turned out that he
got to the office at his usual time, 6:45, a half hour after the time
he had been told we would be leaving. Since he left the office at that
time he ended up in the thick of the morning rush hour traffic. If we
had waited for him we would not only have missed out on that nice
breakfast, but we would have been 45 minutes late for the meeting. We
all would have looked bad for holding up a major meeting when there was
only one person who was responsible for it.

Yes.... he used the heavy traffic for an excuse. We all knew about the
traffic. We all know that it would take at least an hour longer if we
left after 6 am, and that was why we planned that departure time.

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:59:47 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 7/29/2016 11:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
> >> normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance to
> >> the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
> >
> > And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
> > teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
> > problems you have now.
> >
> > Misery loves company.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> You don't suppose this could have any relation to her GERD? Uh... yes.
> Took me about 5 seconds to find this:
>
> https://www.google.com/#q=GERD+caffeine
>
> "This is because certain substances irritate the esophagus or weaken the
> lower esophageal sphincter (LES), which prevents the backward flow of
> stomach contents that causes reflux. Triggers can include: alcohol.
> caffeinated products, such as coffee, soda, and tea."
>
She'd never find that kind of information using the Swagbucks search
engine.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

7th Day Adventists may drink plain chicory, especially since they quit making Postum. They won't drink coffee or tea.

I stand corrected, they're making Postum again so rejoice 7th Day Adventists.

Gary wrote:
>jmcquown wrote:
>>Sqwertz wrote:
>> >
>> > I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
>> > too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
>> > because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
>> > withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
>> > way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
>> > that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
>>
>> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
>> no one was ever at their desks actually working.
>
>Back when I first started college I worked part time at a furniture
>store. We didn't have a coffee station, we had a constant beer keg in
>the back room. We were a happy bunch and we actually sold quite a bit of
>furniture. heheeh I wasn't a salesman, I was the warehouse manager
>storing and keep track of stock.

Yeah, Gary was responsible for inventorying the Budweiser kegs, corn
chips, and Slimjims... probably also had to restock the the ladies loo
with feminine hygiene products... hey, don't knock it, that can be a
tit job if yoose get my drift.

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...

> probably also had to restock the the ladies loo
> with feminine hygiene products... hey, don't knock it, that can be a
> tit job if yoose get my drift.

"I'd much rather see the Spammers than the off topic
Trolls, Socks, and Douchebags" (Brooklyn1)

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>
>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>
>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>
>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they were
>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>
>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>
>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>
>My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.

Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:19:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 7/29/2016 11:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>>>> normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a tolerance
>>>> to
>>>> the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>>>
>>> And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
>>> teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
>>> problems you have now.
>>>
>>> Misery loves company.
>>>
>> You don't suppose this could have any relation to her GERD? Uh... yes.
>> Took me about 5 seconds to find this:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/#q=GERD+caffeine
>>
>> "This is because certain substances irritate the esophagus or weaken the
>> lower esophageal sphincter (LES), which prevents the backward flow of
>> stomach contents that causes reflux. Triggers can include: alcohol.
>> caffeinated products, such as coffee, soda, and tea."
>
>Nope. That doesn't trigger mine at all.

Wow. Nobody saw that coming.

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 8/1/2016 11:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 8/1/2016 10:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > > I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> > > > too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> > > > because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through
> > > > coffee withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day
> > > > consumed in some way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I
> > > > don't have to put up with that as much anymore. Coffee people
> > > > annoy me.
> > >
> > > I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee
> > > station no one was ever at their desks actually working.
> >
> > So long as people get their work done, I don't care. The funny
> > thing is, you know the type, they come in and it's a whole half
> > hour/45 minutes getting coffee and a bagel, chatting up everyone
> > they come across, then they're first with the snide comments about
> > other people leaving early.
> >
> Leaving early? Those of us who worked the hardest got the
> better/requested hours. I requested the early shift, 7:30am so I
> could leave at 3:30pm. Plenty of time to get home, hang out on the
> patio with a book.
>
> > Luckily it was just a small number of people like that where I
> > worked. Most people just didn't have time for that.
> >
> There are always going to be people who manage to get paid to not do
> much. Nothing we can do about it. Only their employers can.
>
> Jill

Hi Jill,

One of the things I learned managing large shops (up to 75 people,
departments of up to 500) is that effectiveness of workers is not
measured by 'who stays latest'. In fact, it's generaly the ones who DO
stay latest that are least productive, especially if they 'come in
early'. They seem to have a mindset that they can fluff off more
'because they work longer' and in effect, you may get 6 hours actual
work from them being there 9-9.5 hours while the person who is there 8
hours, you generally get solid 7.5 hours work from (and a reasonable
30 minute lunch/break).

How do you tell who can reliably telework and actually be working? The
7:30am-3:30pm crowd EXCELL at that generally. The 7am to 4:30 crowd do
not but some are ok at it. The 7am to 5:30pm crowd are the worst and
generally say bad things aboyt telework because deep down, they know
they do not have the work ethics to genuinely carry it off.

Carol

--

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Je?us wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>
>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they were
>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>
>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>>
>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>
>> My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>> young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>
> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.

Exactly. My folks weren't coffee drinkers anyhow, but we didn't have any
caffeinated sodas in the house, either. (My impression was that coffee was
expensive back then, another reason not to buy it, as we weren't rolling
in money...) I might get some tea in a great once in awhile, but until I
was old enough to buy my own, no coffee, no colas, no caffeine. I didn't
start drinking coffee til I was in my 20's. Did drink Tab in college,
though.

I never drank coffee as a kid but I did drink a lot of iced tea.

Roma is another drink for those who won't drink coffee, I don't think Mormons drink coffee either, more for the rest of us.

In article >, ost
says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:59:31 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 7/29/2016 5:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> I really sick of is the importance of coffee in the workplace.
> >> too many people make all sort of excuses for not doing something
> >> because they "haven't had enough coffee yet", are going through coffee
> >> withdrawal, or spending almost half their working day consumed in some
> >> way by their coffee fixation. Fortunately I don't have to put up with
> >> that as much anymore. Coffee people annoy me.
> >
> > I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
> > no one was ever at their desks actually working.
>
> And then you have the people who have their own dedicated coffee
> makers in their office and who you can't approach them about their
> ****ups until they spend the first 30 minutes of the morning washing
> out yesterdays coffee pot, waiting for their coffee to brew, and have
> drank at least half the cup - 45 minutes later.

This is outrageous! I can't believe coffee's still allowed to be sold!

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>
>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
>>> were
>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>
>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>>
>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>
>>My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>>young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>
> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.

http://www.mnn.com/food/beverages/blogs/coffee-for-kids

http://lifestyle.howstuffworks.com/f...ng-coffee2.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...over.html?_r=0

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:59:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/29/2016 11:01 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:35:47 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nonsense. It doesn't do any of those things to most people who consume
>> >> normal amounts. I took caffeine pills as a teen. I built up a
>> >> tolerance to
>> >> the stuff and once took almost a full bottle at once.
>> >
>> > And you've said many times that you were a skinny, anemic, skittish
>> > teen who couldn't eat (among other things). And look how many
>> > problems you have now.
>> >
>> > Misery loves company.
>> >
>> > -sw
>> >
>> You don't suppose this could have any relation to her GERD? Uh... yes.
>> Took me about 5 seconds to find this:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/#q=GERD+caffeine
>>
>> "This is because certain substances irritate the esophagus or weaken the
>> lower esophageal sphincter (LES), which prevents the backward flow of
>> stomach contents that causes reflux. Triggers can include: alcohol.
>> caffeinated products, such as coffee, soda, and tea."
>>
> She'd never find that kind of information using the Swagbucks search
> engine.

GERD is different for everyone. I do know what triggers mine.

> wrote in message
...
> 7th Day Adventists may drink plain chicory, especially since they quit
> making Postum. They won't drink coffee or tea.

They are usually vegetarian and don't eat sugar either. We had a minister
and his wife as neighbors. They were very nice people. We went to their
church to watch shows that they had there, but they were never pushy to get
us to join the church. I never saw the elderly wife wear pants. She always
wore nice cotton dresses, even when doing the gardening.

One thing I did dread was the annual gift of Halloween treats. They were
called butterscotch cookies but they didn't taste very good.

On 2016-08-01 11:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 10:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> I hear ya. There was so much schmoozing going around the coffee station
>> no one was ever at their desks actually working.
>
> So long as people get their work done, I don't care. The funny
> thing is, you know the type, they come in and it's a whole half
> hour/45 minutes getting coffee and a bagel, chatting up everyone
> they come across, then they're first with the snide comments about
> other people leaving early.

I know I already replied to this one, but I just remembered a guy I used
to work with who used to get to work almost an hour early. He would put
on a put of coffee as soon as he got there, and then he would drink
it.... the whole pot. The rest of us would arrive 15-10 minutes early
and he would have a second pot ready for us, and he would have a cup
from that one too.

He liked his coffee.

On 8/1/2016 5:09 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>> young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>
> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>
Clearly her world is different. I lived in a lot of different States
growing up. I never met anyone who was drinking coffee for/with
breakfast when I was a child. Come to think of it, we/they weren't
drinking 12 cans of soda pop every day, either.

Jill

On 8/1/2016 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> The majority of my co-workers were at work early and often put in a
> little OT for free. One sleaze, who did not want to work with anyone
> could be counted on to arrive at least a half hour late and leave a half
> hour early. The only one who ever got hassled by the boss was a guy who
> came in 5-10 minutes late every day. He had trouble getting to work on
> time, even though he lived closer than anyone else. However, he used to
> stay almost an hour extra every day. The boss only saw him come in late
> and he had left for home long before this guy got back to the office and
> then made phone calls and filed his paperwork.
>

Bosses can be idiots at times. Years ago I had a guy working for me
that consistently turned about 110% of the rate for that machine, a
tubing bender. My boss always complained because he saw Richard down at
the storeroom, out having a smoke, etc. No one on that machine was ever
able to turn out more than 85% no matter how much they stayed at it. I
was told not to let him out of my department.

Revenge came a couple of weeks later. New job, new tooling. Richard
said he did not know how to set it up and he needed the engineer. The
engineer that designed the tool could not set it up. He called the tool
maker. Neither could he. They worked on it for a day and a half and
went to lunch the second day.

Fifteen minutes later, Richard put a part on my desk and said "can I go
down to the storeroom for gloves?" Yes, any time you want.

On 8/1/2016 1:14 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> One company I worked, they decided to use a temp agency. Both of the
> guys they brought in lived in West Memphis, Arkansas. They each had to
> drive the same route to work. One guy was perpetually late. When he
> showed up he was rather ungroomed and disheveled. Looking like he'd
> slept in his clothes. Could have used a shower, too.
>
> One morning he showed up about two hours late. He blamed it on traffic
> driving across the bridge. Funny how the other guy, from the same area
> in the same traffic, managed to show up on time. Guess which other
> young man became a permanent employee and which one was not invited
> back? Heh.
>
> Jill

Some companies use temp agencies so they can weed out the losers easily
and no lingering paperwork.

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 16:22:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
>>>> were
>>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>>
>>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>>>
>>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>>
>>>My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>>>young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>>
>> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
>> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>
>http://www.mnn.com/food/beverages/blogs/coffee-for-kids
>
>http://lifestyle.howstuffworks.com/f...ng-coffee2.htm
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...over.html?_r=0

<shrug>

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:48:20 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/1/2016 5:09 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>>> young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>>
>> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
>> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>>
>Clearly her world is different. I lived in a lot of different States
>growing up. I never met anyone who was drinking coffee for/with
>breakfast when I was a child. Come to think of it, we/they weren't
>drinking 12 cans of soda pop every day, either.

My first coffee was around age 10 and I really did like it a lot. A
LOT... Even so, I only had coffee occasionally as a treat rather
than something I was allowed to drink daily and I don't think that
changed until I left home at age 16. All I know is most kids in
Australia my age didn't drink coffee at breakfast time, I can't even
recall any that did.

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:35:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I know I already replied to this one, but I just remembered a guy I used
>to work with who used to get to work almost an hour early. He would put
>on a put of coffee as soon as he got there, and then he would drink
>it.... the whole pot. The rest of us would arrive 15-10 minutes early
>and he would have a second pot ready for us, and he would have a cup
>from that one too.
>
>He liked his coffee.

Circa 1985, I did that a few times. I was a wildlife research
assistant back then and I'd always get stuck with the job of entering
data into the computer. It would take 2-3 weeks at a time, meaning I
was stuck indoors all that time... with access to a coffee machine. I
was drinking anywhere from 12 to 16 strong cups per day. Looking back
on it now, I don't know what I was thinking... but I guess I was
awake.

On 2016-08-02, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Some companies use temp agencies so they can weed out the
> losers.....

Silicon Valley lived on temps. The law was, after one year as a temp,
a company must let the temp go or hire him, permanently. It was
common practice by SV companies to keep a temp on fer 2-3 yrs. I've
already seen the lengths companies will go to. Lie, cheat, steal, all
with the help of temp agencies. The stories I could tell...... 8|

nb

On 8/1/2016 8:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 1:14 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> One company I worked, they decided to use a temp agency. Both of the
>> guys they brought in lived in West Memphis, Arkansas. They each had to
>> drive the same route to work. One guy was perpetually late. When he
>> showed up he was rather ungroomed and disheveled. Looking like he'd
>> slept in his clothes. Could have used a shower, too.
>>
>> One morning he showed up about two hours late. He blamed it on traffic
>> driving across the bridge. Funny how the other guy, from the same area
>> in the same traffic, managed to show up on time. Guess which other
>> young man became a permanent employee and which one was not invited
>> back? Heh.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Some companies use temp agencies so they can weed out the losers easily
> and no lingering paperwork.

It's a good way to weed people out.

Jill

On 2016-08-02, jmcquown > wrote:

> It's a good way to weed people out.

You ppl know zip about temp comapanies. Some ppl preferred to work as
temps. More $$$$.

nb

On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 2:39:03 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 1:14 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > One company I worked, they decided to use a temp agency. Both of the
> > guys they brought in lived in West Memphis, Arkansas. They each had to
> > drive the same route to work. One guy was perpetually late. When he
> > showed up he was rather ungroomed and disheveled. Looking like he'd
> > slept in his clothes. Could have used a shower, too.
> >
> > One morning he showed up about two hours late. He blamed it on traffic
> > driving across the bridge. Funny how the other guy, from the same area
> > in the same traffic, managed to show up on time. Guess which other
> > young man became a permanent employee and which one was not invited
> > back? Heh.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Some companies use temp agencies so they can weed out the losers easily
> and no lingering paperwork.

I worked as a temp at an electronics assembly plant in Everett WA. I enjoyed working with actual people sitting next to me. They moved me all over the plant because I was gung-ho to do anything they needed. I was prepping components and boards, loading up boards with a manual component insertion machine, assembling printers, testing boards, burning-in boards, touching up boards. It was a real gas. They hired me after 6 months. I had to leave soon after to attend some business in Hawaii. That was a Godamn fun job!

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 07:09:15 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>
>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they were
>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>
>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>>
>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>
>>My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>>young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>
>Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
>that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.

I flat out wasn't allowed to drink coffee at home until I was about
18. I could have tea after dinner from about age 15, but at breakfast
we just drank orange juice.

Doris

On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:25:50 PM UTC-10, Doris Night wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 07:09:15 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking distance
> >>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
> >>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -sw
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
> >>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
> >>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
> >>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
> >>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
> >>>>
> >>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
> >>>
> >>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they were
> >>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
> >>>
> >>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it..
> >>>
> >>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
> >>
> >>My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
> >>young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
> >
> >Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
> >that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>
> I flat out wasn't allowed to drink coffee at home until I was about
> 18. I could have tea after dinner from about age 15, but at breakfast
> we just drank orange juice.
>
> Doris

Drinking coffee was a rite of passage back in those days. No so much anymore. I don't remember when my daughter started drinking coffee. Come to think of it, I'd rather not know when my daughter started doing things.

On 8/1/2016 10:10 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-08-02, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> It's a good way to weed people out.
>
> You ppl know zip about temp comapanies. Some ppl preferred to work as
> temps. More $$$$.
>
> nb
>
I disagree. Having worked where we hired people from temp agencies,
bouncing around from job to job was not their goal in life. They wanted
jobs with benefits. They weren't racking up money working six week
assignments.

Jill

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Je?us wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking
>>>>>>> distance
>>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
>>>> were
>>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>>
>>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>>>
>>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>>
>>> My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>>> young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>>
>> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
>> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>
> Exactly. My folks weren't coffee drinkers anyhow, but we didn't have any
> caffeinated sodas in the house, either. (My impression was that coffee was
> expensive back then, another reason not to buy it, as we weren't rolling
> in money...) I might get some tea in a great once in awhile, but until I
> was old enough to buy my own, no coffee, no colas, no caffeine. I didn't
> start drinking coffee til I was in my 20's. Did drink Tab in college,
> though.

We always had diet soda. My dad used to work for RC. I just asked my 72 year
old friend about coffee. She grew up in Minnesota and said that while her
parents weren't real coffee drinkers, they did make cups of it for dunking
donuts in and she often had that for breakfast. We mostly had tea at meal
times. Either hot or iced. But we did buy soda by the case. And many cases
at a time. The lower shelf of our work bench was nothing but soda. It was
usually the Shasta brand.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 07:09:15 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking
>>>>>>> distance
>>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
>>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
>>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
>>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
>>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
>>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
>>>> were
>>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>>
>>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.
>>>>
>>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>>
>>>My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they were
>>>young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
>>
>>Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
>>that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>
> I flat out wasn't allowed to drink coffee at home until I was about
> 18. I could have tea after dinner from about age 15, but at breakfast
> we just drank orange juice.

We were given a very tiny amount of orange juice for breakfast whether we
wanted it or not. And hot tea.

On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:47:36 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
> crg.pbz...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Je?us wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking
> >>>>>>> distance
> >>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
> >>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -sw
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until they
> >>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home of
> >>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
> >>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day. There's
> >>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
> >>>> were
> >>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
> >>>>
> >>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink it.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/1/2016 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> The majority of my co-workers were at work early and often put in a
>> little OT for free. One sleaze, who did not want to work with anyone
>> could be counted on to arrive at least a half hour late and leave a half
>> hour early. The only one who ever got hassled by the boss was a guy who
>> came in 5-10 minutes late every day. He had trouble getting to work on
>> time, even though he lived closer than anyone else. However, he used to
>> stay almost an hour extra every day. The boss only saw him come in late
>> and he had left for home long before this guy got back to the office and
>> then made phone calls and filed his paperwork.
>>
>
> Bosses can be idiots at times. Years ago I had a guy working for me that
> consistently turned about 110% of the rate for that machine, a tubing
> bender. My boss always complained because he saw Richard down at the
> storeroom, out having a smoke, etc. No one on that machine was ever able
> to turn out more than 85% no matter how much they stayed at it. I was
> told not to let him out of my department.
>
> Revenge came a couple of weeks later. New job, new tooling. Richard said
> he did not know how to set it up and he needed the engineer. The engineer
> that designed the tool could not set it up. He called the tool maker.
> Neither could he. They worked on it for a day and a half and went to
> lunch the second day.
>
> Fifteen minutes later, Richard put a part on my desk and said "can I go
> down to the storeroom for gloves?" Yes, any time you want.

I worked with this woman only for a few weeks. She was fired. I am not
entirely sure why but she did keep getting in trouble for having her family
hang out in the store and talking to her, or fighting with them on the
phone. She also had hygiene issues. Often looked and smelled like she hadn't
bathed. She made the claim that she had extended family and a large dog all
living in a studio apartment so it was impossible to keep clean.

The weird thing is that she got work done far faster than should be humanly
possible. And yet, nobody ever saw her doing the work. We used to joke
behind her back that she must have secretly paid someone to do the work. My
boss gave her the nickname of "The Beaver". Reason being, once we had gotten
a shipment of rolls of chain link fencing and bags of things like post caps
come in. Boss left her a note to put the things in the stockroom. Her shift
started at 7:00 a.m. and by 8:00 a.m. when I came in, it was all neatly put
away in the stockroom. Nobody had a clue how she did this because one roll
of fencing was quite heavy. It would take two strong men to lift one. Mostly
we just dragged them to where we needed them. This once led to another
coworker getting a nasty but quite spectacular looking shock as he dragged
the fencing over a live wire in the cement floor that we didn't know was
there. Anyway... She had not asked anyone to help her and yet she did all
this work that would have taken someone else several hours to complete, in
between all the other things that had to be done. And when the boss asked
her how she got it done so fast, she just grinned and said that she worked
like a beaver. Hence the name.

In looking back on it, I wonder if maybe her relatives had been stealing
things. That had happened with other people. We did not have a computerized
inventory system in those days. And two brothers who were working there had
stolen one entire pallet of ceiling fans and another of paint. The home
improvement manager at the time could tell instantly if one thing was
missing so of course he noticed this right away. It was reported to the
store manager who at the time was reading the newspaper. His eye caught
something in the want ads about a person selling paint and ceiling fans. The
phone number listed turned out to be the home phone of a woman working in
the office. She claimed not to know anything about it. AFAIK, they did not
fire her but she did quit no long after. But her two sons who were supposed
to be going off to the military were caught red handed with the goods in
their garage.

So I have wondered if the fast working woman was doing stuff like that.
After she was fired, the boss did find some burlap bags in the stockroom
that appeared to factory sealed that were supposed to have fencing parts in
them but were in fact filled up with trash and only had a few parts right
near the opening. I guess I will never know.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:47:36 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
> crg.pbz...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Je?us wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within walking
> >>>>>>> distance
> >>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a Starbucks they put
> >>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -sw
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking coffee until
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is the home
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid. Then again,
> >>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every day.
> >>>>>> There's
> >>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's. When they
> >>>> were
> >>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
> >>>>
> >>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family to drink
> >>>>> it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
> >>>
> >>> My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast when they
> >>> were
> >>> young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be true.
> >>
> >> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell wasn't like
> >> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
> >
> > Exactly. My folks weren't coffee drinkers anyhow, but we didn't have any
> > caffeinated sodas in the house, either. (My impression was that coffee
> > was
> > expensive back then, another reason not to buy it, as we weren't rolling
> > in money...) I might get some tea in a great once in awhile, but until
> > I
> > was old enough to buy my own, no coffee, no colas, no caffeine. I
> > didn't
> > start drinking coffee til I was in my 20's. Did drink Tab in college,
> > though.
>
> We always had diet soda. My dad used to work for RC. I just asked my 72
> year
> old friend about coffee. She grew up in Minnesota and said that while her
> parents weren't real coffee drinkers, they did make cups of it for dunking
> donuts in and she often had that for breakfast. We mostly had tea at meal
> times. Either hot or iced. But we did buy soda by the case. And many cases
> at a time. The lower shelf of our work bench was nothing but soda. It was
> usually the Shasta brand.

RC was the first to come out with diet soda, right? And the rest is history.
Did your dad have all the soda because he worked at RC or did he work at RC
because he loved soda? I don't recall drinking soda much when I was
growing up - deprived waifs we was.

Yep and I think it was both. The RC job was a second job. He also sustained
in injury from it. He had a scar on his chin that he got when driving the
delivery truck. Something to do with a bottle somehow flying off, coming in
the window and hitting him. I don't think he kept that job for very long. I
think just long enough to make enough extra to buy a house and get us
settled in it.