On 2016-08-04, Jeßus > wrote:

> Sounds like hops to me too. We have a few hops farms around here.

I worked at a hops ranch (that's what they called 'em) fer 3 Summers
when I was in high school. Thirty yrs later, not a hop farm to be
found. All that land was turned into "ranchettes". You know! Those
places where yuppies/hipsters board out horses.

Last time I checked, there were no more hops ranches in CA. They've
all moved to WA and OR. This despite there being, at one time, a huge
number of hops growers in CA. When I moved to the SFBA, some ten yrs
later, one of the main roads into Pleasanton, CA is Hopyard Rd. The
hops were long gone, but the name remains. After the huge hops
shortage of a few yrs ago --major warehouse fire--, they may be
growing somewhere in CA, once more.

nb

On 2016-08-04, Dave Smith > wrote:

> 10% is a few percentage points too high.

Not necessarily.

After really high abv beers, like American IPAs, double IPAs, Dubbels,
etc, come the "barleywines". They are brands like Bigfoot, Old
Crustacean, etc, and typically run from 8% abv to up to 15% abv. I've
had a 16% barleywine. It was custom made and aged for 18 mos and
actually tasted like a wine. Bigfoot usta be the standard on the West
Coast, be even they have reduce the abv. Usta be 10.3% abv, now it's
down to low nines. Again, more of that "creeping meatballism".

nb

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:56:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Cheryl wrote:
> >
> > I don't care what anyone says, I think 7-11 has good coffee but only
> > when it's fresh.
>
> I agree and I've said it before. Morning 7-11 coffee is as good as it
> gets, imo. I rarely buy it though as I want my one cup first thing in
> the morning before I leave the house.

Agree about the quality of 7-11 coffee, it's excellent. I've never
had stale coffee at the one local to me and am not concerned about it,
probably because there are so many coffee drinkers around here.
>
> I used to use a french press until I broke it. Lately, I'm using a 4-cup
> Mr.Coffee machine and I brew only 2 cups. My coffee is Essential
> Everyday. It's actually pretty darn good.

I don't brew less than 4 cups of coffee, not because I drink them but
because I don't think coffee makers that are 4-12 cups brew good
coffee when it's less than 4. For that reason and the fact that
grocery stores have taken away the coffee bean dispensers & grinders
and only sell whole beans in one pound bags now - I've decided to buy
a grind & brew machine. Thought I had a small one on my Amazon list,
but I guess I didn't save it. At the moment, I am seeing the grind &
brew into a travel mug type and into 4-12 cup pots - but I thought I
saw a 2-6 cup size when I was looking before. Maybe not.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2016-08-04, Cheryl > wrote:

> But I don't drink coffee as much these days.

I usta play that game. Seven-Eleven coffee, couple plain cake donuts
or a pack of Hostess "Crumble" mini-donuts (coconut covered), and I
was good to go. I usta revel in the "dryness" of my small Honda
Civic. Steamy hot coffee, tasty pastries, good music, plenty o' dry
heat .....and the rain stopping dead at a mere 14 inches from my
face!! Damn! ....I loved driving in the rain!

No doubt a throwback to my memories of riding a "ten-speed" (remember
those!?), later a motorcycle, during the CA Winter, in Sacratomato.
Never snowed, but plenty o' rain, back then (70s). This I did fer
about 2 yrs, right after my stint in the service.

nb

On 4 Aug 2016 16:12:54 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2016-08-04, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> > Sounds like hops to me too. We have a few hops farms around here.
>
> I worked at a hops ranch (that's what they called 'em) fer 3 Summers
> when I was in high school. Thirty yrs later, not a hop farm to be
> found. All that land was turned into "ranchettes". You know! Those
> places where yuppies/hipsters board out horses.
>
> Last time I checked, there were no more hops ranches in CA. They've
> all moved to WA and OR. This despite there being, at one time, a huge
> number of hops growers in CA. When I moved to the SFBA, some ten yrs
> later, one of the main roads into Pleasanton, CA is Hopyard Rd. The
> hops were long gone, but the name remains. After the huge hops
> shortage of a few yrs ago --major warehouse fire--, they may be
> growing somewhere in CA, once more.
>
There's a wide spot in the road called Hopland, California. Local
lore is they grew the best hops in the world there at one time. It's
vineyards now, not a hop in sight. You'd think people would use hops
instead of grapes as a decorative vine, because they are quite pretty.
http://clv.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/09/...s-0413-xln.jpg

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

notbob wrote:
> On 2016-08-04, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> 10% is a few percentage points too high.
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> After really high abv beers, like American IPAs, double IPAs, Dubbels,
> etc, come the "barleywines". They are brands like Bigfoot, Old
> Crustacean, etc, and typically run from 8% abv to up to 15% abv. I've
> had a 16% barleywine. It was custom made and aged for 18 mos and
> actually tasted like a wine. Bigfoot usta be the standard on the West
> Coast, be even they have reduce the abv. Usta be 10.3% abv, now it's
> down to low nines. Again, more of that "creeping meatballism".
>
> nb

http://www.ftupet.com/upload/IMG_2699.jpg

tasted more like port than beer to me

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:12:51 -0700, Whirled Peas >
wrote:

>On 08/03/2016 07:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>(snipped)
>
>Warning: thread drift here!
>
>I'm looking for an "Australian Beer Mug" similar to one I saw on the
>internet a while ago. I've lost the URL.
>
>It was a large, tall glass mug with straight sides. Looked to me like it
>would hold about a litre. It had two handles so you could get a firm
>grip on it and a *round* bottom so you couldn't set it down and leave
>it. Topping it off was a chain tied to both handles that you could throw
>a loop behind your neck to give your arms a rest. You still couldn't set
>it down, though.
>
>Have any of you Aussies seen anything like this for sale? I would like
>to buy one.

Sorry to say, no I haven't seen those here.

On 4 Aug 2016 16:12:54 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-08-04, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> Sounds like hops to me too. We have a few hops farms around here.
>
>I worked at a hops ranch (that's what they called 'em) fer 3 Summers
>when I was in high school. Thirty yrs later, not a hop farm to be
>found. All that land was turned into "ranchettes". You know! Those
>places where yuppies/hipsters board out horses.
>
>Last time I checked, there were no more hops ranches in CA. They've
>all moved to WA and OR. This despite there being, at one time, a huge
>number of hops growers in CA. When I moved to the SFBA, some ten yrs
>later, one of the main roads into Pleasanton, CA is Hopyard Rd. The
>hops were long gone, but the name remains. After the huge hops
>shortage of a few yrs ago --major warehouse fire--, they may be
>growing somewhere in CA, once more.

It can be frustrating to watch what market pressures can do. Here you
see cattle and sheep prices fluctuate, prices go up and next year they
go down because everyone started producing too many sheep or cattle
and vic-versa.

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:43:56 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 7/27/2016 6:41 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:23:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-07-27 6:01 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>
>>>> All I know is none of us drank coffee at school or had access to
>>>> coffee at school.
>>>
>>> The first high school I attended had a cafeteria and there was an urn of
>>> coffee. The next one I went to had vending machines. I occasionally
>>> bought coffee from the machine but it was pretty bad. When I was in Gr.
>>> 12 and 13 we used to scoot over to a nearby Mister Donut for coffee.
>>
>> We moved around Australia a lot when I was a kid and went to quite a
>> few high schools, I guess at some schools we could have gone to shops
>> for coffee but I don't recall that being very common.
>>
>Yeah. When I was in HS I only remember getting high during lunch break.

I was a good boy in school when it came to that, although one friend
used to bring cigars and small bottle of whiskey once a week. (his
parents owned a small store). I'll have to tell you the story about
when I got busted with a cigar at school some time

On 8/2/2016 12:12 PM, notbob wrote:
> Silly-Con Valley is NOT Dataw Island. Both temp agencies and
> full-time employers know exactly how to screw a temp worker, which is
> why they are so popular. Temps with a brain knew precisely how/when
> they were being screwed. Unfortunately, far too many temps were
> afraid to stand up fer themselves, so were continually reamed by the
> system. 8|
>
> nb

nb, I was not talking about Dataw. In the grand scheme of things I
haven't lived here very long. Most temp assignments lasted no longer
than 6 months. The shorter term assignments were if all that was needed
was some additional clerical help, such as when someone went out on
maternity leave or took a medical leave of absence.

Jill

On 08/04/2016 01:38 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:12:51 -0700, Whirled Peas >
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/03/2016 07:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> (snipped)
>>
>> Warning: thread drift here!
>>
>> I'm looking for an "Australian Beer Mug" similar to one I saw on the
>> internet a while ago. I've lost the URL.
>>
>> It was a large, tall glass mug with straight sides. Looked to me like it
>> would hold about a litre. It had two handles so you could get a firm
>> grip on it and a *round* bottom so you couldn't set it down and leave
>> it. Topping it off was a chain tied to both handles that you could throw
>> a loop behind your neck to give your arms a rest. You still couldn't set
>> it down, though.
>>
>> Have any of you Aussies seen anything like this for sale? I would like
>> to buy one.
>
> Sorry to say, no I haven't seen those here.
>
Thanks for the reply.

On 8/2/2016 1:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/1/2016 10:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/1/2016 10:10 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-02, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a good way to weed people out.
>>>
>>> You ppl know zip about temp comapanies. Some ppl preferred to work as
>>> temps. More $$$$.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> I disagree. Having worked where we hired people from temp agencies,
>> bouncing around from job to job was not their goal in life. They wanted
>> jobs with benefits. They weren't racking up money working six week
>> assignments.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Both are correct. Temp work can often lead to a good career. There are
> people that just want to work a couple of weeks here and there to make a
> few bucks.
>
> True story. After a month the boss asked a new hire, "looks like you
> are only working four days a week. Why?"
> Reply: "I don't make enough to get by on three days."
>
>
LOL I believe you, Ed. A company I worked for hired a programmer on a
temp-to-permanent basis. It would have turned into a full time job with
excellent benefits after 90 days. The company paid to send him for
additional training in Progress RDBMS. He took full advantage of that
training and immediately found a job with another company. They stopped
hiring on a temp-to-perm basis after being burned a couple of times like
that.

Jill

On 8/3/2016 10:49 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 14:50:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> That was after we moved here. Our house in Wichita was a tiny little two
>> bedroom without a dining room. We moved here when I was 7. Lived in one
>> house then moved to the one next door which was nearly identical. I did like
>> the rental house better though as it had a grand piano and a tiki bar. We
>> were not allowed to touch the piano but we sure did play in the tiki bar a
>> lot. Both houses had three bedrooms, dining room and basement.
>
> How do seven year olds "play" in a tiki bar... were you mixing mai
> tais and playing witch doctor?
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tiki%20bar
>
>
I wondered about that myself. But don't touch the piano! One
wouldn't want them to discover they'd like to learn how to play one!

Jill

On 8/4/2016 4:47 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I was a good boy in school when it came to that, although one friend
> used to bring cigars and small bottle of whiskey once a week. (his
> parents owned a small store). I'll have to tell you the story about
> when I got busted with a cigar at school some time

I'll look forward to that. I was one of "those girls" in HS in the 70s
who quit school to have a baby. I was married, and took the GED test
before my class of 80 graduated. So my use of weed ended after I found
out I was pregnant.

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On 8/4/2016 4:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> My dad always drank it for breakfast on work days and often in
> restaurants too. Back then, it was cheaper than soda and you always got
> free refills. Free refills of soda are pretty much a given everywhere
> these days but you didn't get free ones back then.

Back then we didn't go out to eat often. It was a rare treat to go out
to eat as a family, just birthdays to a pizza place. My parents went
out, I guess as a date night, about once a month.

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:38:49 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 8/4/2016 4:47 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>> I was a good boy in school when it came to that, although one friend
>> used to bring cigars and small bottle of whiskey once a week. (his
>> parents owned a small store). I'll have to tell you the story about
>> when I got busted with a cigar at school some time
>
>I'll look forward to that.

Well remind me if I don't get around to it later

>I was one of "those girls" in HS in the 70s
>who quit school to have a baby. I was married, and took the GED test
>before my class of 80 graduated. So my use of weed ended after I found
>out I was pregnant.

Probably would not have done much, if any harm at all. But we didn't
know that back then. I use weed daily, or I should say in the evenings
and not very often socially (although it seems like 90% of people here
use it). Being a light sleeper with lower back pain to deal with, I've
found it to be the best (and healthiest) solution for me. Cheapest
too.

On 2016-08-04 6:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/2/2016 1:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/1/2016 10:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2016 10:10 PM, notbob wrote:

>> True story. After a month the boss asked a new hire, "looks like you
>> are only working four days a week. Why?"
>> Reply: "I don't make enough to get by on three days."
>>
>>
> LOL I believe you, Ed. A company I worked for hired a programmer on a
> temp-to-permanent basis. It would have turned into a full time job with
> excellent benefits after 90 days. The company paid to send him for
> additional training in Progress RDBMS. He took full advantage of that
> training and immediately found a job with another company. They stopped
> hiring on a temp-to-perm basis after being burned a couple of times like
> that.
>
I guess that is a risk you take you you tangle a carrot in front of
someone instead of letting them have it. You can't blame someone for
grabbing a good job offer when it comes along when you are only offering
the possibility of the job.

It is amazing what some employers expect job applicants to go through.
My son risked a lot to get his current job. It is a well paid government
job with good benefits. First of all, he had to take a number of courses
and pass some tests. He had to be certified in first aid, get a gun
license, pass French language tests (he is bilingual) and profile tests.
Then he was accepted into an 18 week course and on successful completion
of that he would be able to apply for a position, and no guarantee on
the work location.

He had to quit his job and sublet his apartment in order to attend the
course. He got a small weekly stipend, room and board and paid travel
there and return. If he had quit, he would have had to pay them back.

As it turned out, he did well on the course and got his choice of
assignments and he is making good money. Only 2/3 of the people made
it through the course. One guy was booted out on the last day.

On 2016-08-04 9:57 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:38:49 -0400, Cheryl >
>
>> I was one of "those girls" in HS in the 70s
>> who quit school to have a baby. I was married, and took the GED test
>> before my class of 80 graduated. So my use of weed ended after I found
>> out I was pregnant.
>
> Probably would not have done much, if any harm at all. But we didn't
> know that back then. I use weed daily, or I should say in the evenings
> and not very often socially (although it seems like 90% of people here
> use it). Being a light sleeper with lower back pain to deal with, I've
> found it to be the best (and healthiest) solution for me. Cheapest
> too.
>


When I was in university just about everyone smoked it. The only harder
drug that any of them developed problems with was alcohol. They all
seem to have given up pot smoking.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 8/4/2016 4:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> My dad always drank it for breakfast on work days and often in
>> restaurants too. Back then, it was cheaper than soda and you always got
>> free refills. Free refills of soda are pretty much a given everywhere
>> these days but you didn't get free ones back then.
>
> Back then we didn't go out to eat often. It was a rare treat to go out to
> eat as a family, just birthdays to a pizza place. My parents went out, I
> guess as a date night, about once a month.

We dined out a lot when I was a kid. Exceptions being times when my dad was
on Weight Watchers or his hours got cut at work. We actually still did dine
out when he was dieting. Just not quite as much.

My parents had date one once a week, most of the time.

On 8/2/2016 8:10 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 5:13:53 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2016 11:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:36:21 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 6:57:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" <dsiyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:47:36 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> crg.pbz...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:21:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2016 6:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only on Planet Bove do teens need a Starbucks within
>>>>>>> walking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their high school. And if they don't have a
>>>>>>> Starbucks >> > >>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coffee vending machines in the school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How mach caffeine DOES Angela eat and drink?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beats me. I don't know anyone who started drinking
>>>>>>> coffee >> > >>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were in their 20's. She claims it's because "Seattle" is
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starbucks. I claim it's because parents are stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie drinks a 12 pack of caffeine laden soda pop every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no way her child could expect to do otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't your parents grow up drinking it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They likely started drinking coffee in their 20's.
>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at work (and Dad had enlisted).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mine did. Very common in those days for the whole family
>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>> drink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common where?! I'm not familiar with "those days".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My parents said that most kids drank coffee for breakfast
>>>>>>> when >> > >>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> young. And in reading stories of the past, this seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly that depends where you are because it sure as hell
>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> that in Australia, even when I was a kid in the 70's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. My folks weren't coffee drinkers anyhow, but we
>>>>>>> didn't >> > > have
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> caffeinated sodas in the house, either. (My impression was
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> coffee
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive back then, another reason not to buy it, as we
>>>>>>>>>>> weren't
>>>>>>>>>>> rolling
>>>>>>>>>>> in money...) I might get some tea in a great once in awhile,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> was old enough to buy my own, no coffee, no colas, no
>>>>>>> caffeine. I
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> start drinking coffee til I was in my 20's. Did drink Tab in
>>>>>>>>>>> college,
>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We always had diet soda. My dad used to work for RC. I just
>>>>>>> asked my >> > 72
>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>> old friend about coffee. She grew up in Minnesota and said that
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>> parents weren't real coffee drinkers, they did make cups of it
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> dunking
>>>>>>>>>> donuts in and she often had that for breakfast. We mostly had
>>>>>>> tea at
>>>>>>>>>> meal
>>>>>>>>>> times. Either hot or iced. But we did buy soda by the case. And
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>>>>> at a time. The lower shelf of our work bench was nothing but
>>>>>>> soda. >> > It
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> usually the Shasta brand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RC was the first to come out with diet soda, right? And the rest
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>>>> Did your dad have all the soda because he worked at RC or did he
>>>>>>> work >> at
>>>>>>>>> RC
>>>>>>>>> because he loved soda? I don't recall drinking soda much when I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> growing up - deprived waifs we was.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep and I think it was both. The RC job was a second job. He also
>>>>>>>>> sustained
>>>>>>>>> in injury from it. He had a scar on his chin that he got when
>>>>>>> driving >> the
>>>>>>>>> delivery truck. Something to do with a bottle somehow flying off,
>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the window and hitting him. I don't think he kept that job for
>>>>>>> very >> long.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> think just long enough to make enough extra to buy a house and get
>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>> settled in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well a house full of soda is certainly intriguing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't recall having a lot of soda in that house. No place to store
>>>>>>> it. It
>>>>>>> was a very tiny house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you said you stashed many cases of soda under a workbench.
>>>>>> Please to clarify please. Did I misattribute? That would be a serious
>>>>>> loss of face.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was after we moved here. Our house in Wichita was a tiny little
>>>>> two
>>>>> bedroom without a dining room. We moved here when I was 7. Lived in one
>>>>> house then moved to the one next door which was nearly identical. I did
>>>>> like the rental house better though as it had a grand piano and a tiki
>>>>> bar. We were not allowed to touch the piano but we sure did play in the
>>>>> tiki bar a lot. Both houses had three bedrooms, dining room and
>>>>> basement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Canadian family bought the house with the tiki bar. They had a boy a
>>>>> year younger than me and a girl, my brother's age. We were friends with
>>>>> them and still played in the tiki bar so it was all good. Their dad was
>>>>> a pilot and ham radio operator. He kept the radio in the bar so we had
>>>>> fun with that too.
>>>>
>>>> Well okay then. I won't have to cut open my belly - or will I?
>>>
>>> I had to bring lunch to get to the bottom of this post. You never seem
>>> to realize how much gunk's hidden behind Google's "Show Quoted Text" (?)
>>> button.
>>
>> I don't use Google.
>
> I use DuckDuck and sometimes Google.
> DuckDuck supposedly doesn't track users.
>
> You probably don't use Google because they reveal too much about you...stuff you'd like to keep SECRET. Right?
> ====
>
>
For those not familiar, https://duckduckgo.com/

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:03:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-04 9:57 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:38:49 -0400, Cheryl >
>>
>>> I was one of "those girls" in HS in the 70s
>>> who quit school to have a baby. I was married, and took the GED test
>>> before my class of 80 graduated. So my use of weed ended after I found
>>> out I was pregnant.
>>
>> Probably would not have done much, if any harm at all. But we didn't
>> know that back then. I use weed daily, or I should say in the evenings
>> and not very often socially (although it seems like 90% of people here
>> use it). Being a light sleeper with lower back pain to deal with, I've
>> found it to be the best (and healthiest) solution for me. Cheapest
>> too.
>
>When I was in university just about everyone smoked it. The only harder
>drug that any of them developed problems with was alcohol. They all
>seem to have given up pot smoking.

Strange that all would just give up. Makes me wonder why they used it
in the first place. It's very different here.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/3/2016 10:49 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 14:50:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That was after we moved here. Our house in Wichita was a tiny little two
>>> bedroom without a dining room. We moved here when I was 7. Lived in one
>>> house then moved to the one next door which was nearly identical. I did
>>> like
>>> the rental house better though as it had a grand piano and a tiki bar.
>>> We
>>> were not allowed to touch the piano but we sure did play in the tiki bar
>>> a
>>> lot. Both houses had three bedrooms, dining room and basement.
>>
>> How do seven year olds "play" in a tiki bar... were you mixing mai
>> tais and playing witch doctor?
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tiki%20bar
>>
>>
> I wondered about that myself. But don't touch the piano! One wouldn't
> want them to discover they'd like to learn how to play one!

We were renting the house and the piano belonged to the owners. They said we
could play it but my parents wouldn't let us touch it. It was in the dining
room.

The bar wasn't a wet bar and there was no liquor or even bar stools. We
sometimes used it to play restaurant with pretend food but mostly we used it
as a stage for puppet shows. We had our audience sit or stand at the outside
of the bar while we crouched down behind it.

On 8/4/2016 10:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-04 6:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/2/2016 1:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2016 10:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2016 10:10 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>>> True story. After a month the boss asked a new hire, "looks like you
>>> are only working four days a week. Why?"
>>> Reply: "I don't make enough to get by on three days."
>>>
>>>
>> LOL I believe you, Ed. A company I worked for hired a programmer on a
>> temp-to-permanent basis. It would have turned into a full time job with
>> excellent benefits after 90 days. The company paid to send him for
>> additional training in Progress RDBMS. He took full advantage of that
>> training and immediately found a job with another company. They stopped
>> hiring on a temp-to-perm basis after being burned a couple of times like
>> that.
>>
> I guess that is a risk you take you you tangle a carrot in front of
> someone instead of letting them have it. You can't blame someone for
> grabbing a good job offer when it comes along when you are only offering
> the possibility of the job.
>
Technically he already *had* the job; he was already drawing a salary.
He had some programming background, just not in the programming language
they use. They flew him to Atlanta, put him up in a very nice Residence
Inn, provided a rental car and meal reimbursement. I know, because
another co-worker and I (we were already permanent employees) also made
the trip and attended the training class with him.

A non-sequitur: that Residence Inn suite was SWEET! Full kitchen,
fireplace, balcony (private patio if on the ground floor), a large
comfortable living room and a separate bedroom with a large en suite
bath. I've seen apartments that weren't that nice!

> It is amazing what some employers expect job applicants to go through.
> My son risked a lot to get his current job. It is a well paid government
> job with good benefits. First of all, he had to take a number of courses
> and pass some tests. He had to be certified in first aid, get a gun
> license, pass French language tests (he is bilingual) and profile tests.
> Then he was accepted into an 18 week course and on successful completion
> of that he would be able to apply for a position, and no guarantee on
> the work location.
>
> He had to quit his job and sublet his apartment in order to attend the
> course. He got a small weekly stipend, room and board and paid travel
> there and return. If he had quit, he would have had to pay them back.
>
> As it turned out, he did well on the course and got his choice of
> assignments and he is making good money. Only 2/3 of the people made
> it through the course. One guy was booted out on the last day.
>
I'm glad your son wound up with a good job. That's a hell of a lot of
hoops to jump through just to be able to *apply*.

Jill

On 8/3/2016 10:43 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> Yeah. When I was in HS I only remember getting high during lunch break.
>
> --
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
> Cheryl

LOL, Cheryl! The one and only time I got high with friends on my lunch
break was my last. I had incredibly long eyelashes. On my way to class
after the break a teacher stopped me in the hallway and stared at my
eyes. Despite the use of Visine I was convinced she knew. Perhaps she
did; but what she said to me was, "Are you wearing false eyelashes?!"
Whew! No ma'am, just mascara. It freaked me out enough that I never
did that during school hours again.

Jill

On 2016-08-05 8:37 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> I guess that is a risk you take you you tangle a carrot in front of
>> someone instead of letting them have it. You can't blame someone for
>> grabbing a good job offer when it comes along when you are only offering
>> the possibility of the job.
>>
> Technically he already *had* the job; he was already drawing a salary.
> He had some programming background, just not in the programming language
> they use. They flew him to Atlanta, put him up in a very nice Residence
> Inn, provided a rental car and meal reimbursement. I know, because
> another co-worker and I (we were already permanent employees) also made
> the trip and attended the training class with him.

Yes, we had a job and was drawing a paycheque, but it was a temporary
job that might lead to a full time position. It sounds like he bailed
and took a sure thing.


>> As it turned out, he did well on the course and got his choice of
>> assignments and he is making good money. Only 2/3 of the people made
>> it through the course. One guy was booted out on the last day.
>>
> I'm glad your son wound up with a good job. That's a hell of a lot of
> hoops to jump through just to be able to *apply*.

It was indeed a lot of hoops to jump. Basically, the successful
completion of the course was the last step in the application process.
His letter of acceptance into the course stated very clearly that it was
not a job offer.

The offers came at the end of the course, and even that was a strange
process. There were a number of openings across the country and divided
into English, French and bilingual. He is fluent in French and English,
but had been accepted into the bilingual program so he could apply only
for the bilingual postings. They could choose any three. The kicker was
that their names were drawn randomly, with the first people getting
first pick. He lucked out and got the second spot and ended up with the
one he wanted. Some poor suckers ended up in the prairies or the far
north. Apparently you can't even get transferred out of those places
because they can't get anyone else to take them.

On 8/4/2016 11:52 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:03:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>>
>> When I was in university just about everyone smoked it. The only harder
>> drug that any of them developed problems with was alcohol. They all
>> seem to have given up pot smoking.
>
> Strange that all would just give up. Makes me wonder why they used it
> in the first place. It's very different here.
>
They used it because they liked it. They gave it up, JMHO, due to
availability and price. In school it was easy enough to find. Once
you're out of school people scatter, they're busy working, they get
married, have families. Your friendly classmate with access to weed
isn't right there anymore.

Financially, what used to cost US$10-15 an ounce was suddenly priced
well over $100. Not to mention, in most US States (don't know about
Canada) it's still illegal. Who wants to serve a long prison term for
possession of what amounts to a miniscule amount of pot?

Jill

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:45:23 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-05 8:37 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> I guess that is a risk you take you you tangle a carrot in front of
>>> someone instead of letting them have it. You can't blame someone for
>>> grabbing a good job offer when it comes along when you are only offering
>>> the possibility of the job.
>>>
>> Technically he already *had* the job; he was already drawing a salary.
>> He had some programming background, just not in the programming language
>> they use. They flew him to Atlanta, put him up in a very nice Residence
>> Inn, provided a rental car and meal reimbursement. I know, because
>> another co-worker and I (we were already permanent employees) also made
>> the trip and attended the training class with him.
>
>Yes, we had a job and was drawing a paycheque, but it was a temporary
>job that might lead to a full time position. It sounds like he bailed
>and took a sure thing.
>
>
>>> As it turned out, he did well on the course and got his choice of
>>> assignments and he is making good money. Only 2/3 of the people made
>>> it through the course. One guy was booted out on the last day.
>>>
>> I'm glad your son wound up with a good job. That's a hell of a lot of
>> hoops to jump through just to be able to *apply*.
>
>It was indeed a lot of hoops to jump. Basically, the successful
>completion of the course was the last step in the application process.
>His letter of acceptance into the course stated very clearly that it was
>not a job offer.
>
>The offers came at the end of the course, and even that was a strange
>process. There were a number of openings across the country and divided
>into English, French and bilingual. He is fluent in French and English,
>but had been accepted into the bilingual program so he could apply only
>for the bilingual postings. They could choose any three. The kicker was
>that their names were drawn randomly, with the first people getting
>first pick. He lucked out and got the second spot and ended up with the
>one he wanted. Some poor suckers ended up in the prairies or the far
>north. Apparently you can't even get transferred out of those places
>because they can't get anyone else to take them.
>
That's the way things go these days. My baby grandson took a very
expensive course $7,500 in helicopter survival techniques. Without
that qualification he couldn't apply for the job he wanted but with it
he was not guaranteed the job. All was well, he did the course, got
the qualification and the job and the salary more than recovered his
money. All in all, I suppose it does sort out the really keen from
the ho hum candidates.

sf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:56:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Cheryl wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't care what anyone says, I think 7-11 has good coffee but only
> > > when it's fresh.
> >
> > I agree and I've said it before. Morning 7-11 coffee is as good as it
> > gets, imo. I rarely buy it though as I want my one cup first thing in
> > the morning before I leave the house.
>
> Agree about the quality of 7-11 coffee, it's excellent. I've never
> had stale coffee at the one local to me and am not concerned about it,
> probably because there are so many coffee drinkers around here.
> >
> > I used to use a french press until I broke it. Lately, I'm using a 4-cup
> > Mr.Coffee machine and I brew only 2 cups. My coffee is Essential
> > Everyday. It's actually pretty darn good.
>
> I don't brew less than 4 cups of coffee, not because I drink them but
> because I don't think coffee makers that are 4-12 cups brew good
> coffee when it's less than 4.

I agree with you there but remember, I'm not using a 4-12 cup machine.
My miniature Mr.Coffee is a 4-cup machine and brewing 2 cups works
fine. I'll have to dig in my bottom cabinet to see if I still have my
old stovetop perculator. That made excellent coffee too.

On 2016-08-05 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:56:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't care what anyone says, I think 7-11 has good coffee but only
>>>> when it's fresh.
>>>
>>> I agree and I've said it before. Morning 7-11 coffee is as good as it
>>> gets, imo. I rarely buy it though as I want my one cup first thing in
>>> the morning before I leave the house.
>>
>> Agree about the quality of 7-11 coffee, it's excellent. I've never
>> had stale coffee at the one local to me and am not concerned about it,
>> probably because there are so many coffee drinkers around here.
>>>
>>> I used to use a french press until I broke it. Lately, I'm using a 4-cup
>>> Mr.Coffee machine and I brew only 2 cups. My coffee is Essential
>>> Everyday. It's actually pretty darn good.
>>
>> I don't brew less than 4 cups of coffee, not because I drink them but
>> because I don't think coffee makers that are 4-12 cups brew good
>> coffee when it's less than 4.
>
> I agree with you there but remember, I'm not using a 4-12 cup machine.
> My miniature Mr.Coffee is a 4-cup machine and brewing 2 cups works
> fine. I'll have to dig in my bottom cabinet to see if I still have my
> old stovetop perculator. That made excellent coffee too.

My experience with drip coffee makers is that the coffee is best when
the machine is best if made a whole pot at a time. We have a twelve cup
machine and usually only use it for Sunday brunch when we both eat at
the same time and have more than one cup, but that is only a half pot.
If we have one more person around for coffee I make the whole pot, and
it always tastes much better.

>

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 1:28:11 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> I keep seeing that term bandied about in here and people keep accusing me of
> eating it. But in looking up the term, there does not seem to be any one
> answer. Chevy's Fresh Mex claims to be Tex Mex. We had one here years ago.
> It didn't last very long. We tried it a few times and didn't like the food.
> There was also one in Alameda. My husband did like it but Angela and I did
> not. Have also read that Taco Bell is Tex Mex. Only thing they have that I
> like are the bean burritos but I can't eat them due to all of the weird
> added ingredients. Those are easy enough to make at home.
>
> Some sources say that Tex Mex is Americanized dishes smothered in cheese.
>
> My uncle told me that sour cream is never used in Mexico. I think he was
> wrong about that as they have Crema which is very similar.
>
> Janet Wilder used to say that if you weren't eating it if you weren't in
> Texas.
>
> Many of the Mexican restaurants here have sort of a fusion of foods from
> both Mexico and South America. And certainly Americanized dishes such as
> various salads.
>
> So... What is your interpretation of Tex Mex?

My neighbor gave me a Corning Ware stovetop percolator, I tried it once but I don't think I let it perc nearly long enough. I do love french press coffee tho.

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 2:07:15 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-05 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:56:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cheryl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't care what anyone says, I think 7-11 has good coffee but only
> >>>> when it's fresh.
> >>>
> >>> I agree and I've said it before. Morning 7-11 coffee is as good as it
> >>> gets, imo. I rarely buy it though as I want my one cup first thing in
> >>> the morning before I leave the house.
> >>
> >> Agree about the quality of 7-11 coffee, it's excellent. I've never
> >> had stale coffee at the one local to me and am not concerned about it,
> >> probably because there are so many coffee drinkers around here.
> >>>
> >>> I used to use a french press until I broke it. Lately, I'm using a 4-cup
> >>> Mr.Coffee machine and I brew only 2 cups. My coffee is Essential
> >>> Everyday. It's actually pretty darn good.
> >>
> >> I don't brew less than 4 cups of coffee, not because I drink them but
> >> because I don't think coffee makers that are 4-12 cups brew good
> >> coffee when it's less than 4.
> >
> > I agree with you there but remember, I'm not using a 4-12 cup machine.
> > My miniature Mr.Coffee is a 4-cup machine and brewing 2 cups works
> > fine. I'll have to dig in my bottom cabinet to see if I still have my
> > old stovetop perculator. That made excellent coffee too.
>
> My experience with drip coffee makers is that the coffee is best when
> the machine is best if made a whole pot at a time. We have a twelve cup
> machine and usually only use it for Sunday brunch when we both eat at
> the same time and have more than one cup, but that is only a half pot.
> If we have one more person around for coffee I make the whole pot, and
> it always tastes much better.

We use a 12-cup Mr. Coffee. Weekdays, we make a full pot (water up to
the drain hole on the back of the machine), take our first 20-ounce
cups of coffee, throw in another 6 ounces (or so) of water and let
it run through the same grounds. (yeah, we live like wolves) Then
we get our second 20-ounce cups. Weekends, we do the same, but then
repeat the whole performance. Usually, though, I have only one cup
from that 2nd+ pot, while he drinks the rest. It'd be simpler if
we have a 14-cup coffeemaker, but I can't justify replacing a machine
that works.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:07:15 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-05 11:23 AM, Gary wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:56:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cheryl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't care what anyone says, I think 7-11 has good coffee but only
> >>>> when it's fresh.
> >>>
> >>> I agree and I've said it before. Morning 7-11 coffee is as good as it
> >>> gets, imo. I rarely buy it though as I want my one cup first thing in
> >>> the morning before I leave the house.
> >>
> >> Agree about the quality of 7-11 coffee, it's excellent. I've never
> >> had stale coffee at the one local to me and am not concerned about it,
> >> probably because there are so many coffee drinkers around here.
> >>>
> >>> I used to use a french press until I broke it. Lately, I'm using a 4-cup
> >>> Mr.Coffee machine and I brew only 2 cups. My coffee is Essential
> >>> Everyday. It's actually pretty darn good.
> >>
> >> I don't brew less than 4 cups of coffee, not because I drink them but
> >> because I don't think coffee makers that are 4-12 cups brew good
> >> coffee when it's less than 4.
> >
> > I agree with you there but remember, I'm not using a 4-12 cup machine.
> > My miniature Mr.Coffee is a 4-cup machine and brewing 2 cups works
> > fine. I'll have to dig in my bottom cabinet to see if I still have my
> > old stovetop perculator. That made excellent coffee too.
>
> My experience with drip coffee makers is that the coffee is best when
> the machine is best if made a whole pot at a time. We have a twelve cup
> machine and usually only use it for Sunday brunch when we both eat at
> the same time and have more than one cup, but that is only a half pot.
> If we have one more person around for coffee I make the whole pot, and
> it always tastes much better.
>
> >

Coffee is always better on Sunday. The coffee I'm drinking now is just horrible. I got an 80 K-cup Keurig coffee from Sam's Club I've been working for months to finish it off. It was a disappointment from the beginning. My office got flooded and the coffee was left in a 100 degree environment for 3 days while the workmen dried the place out. The coffee after that was pretty harsh. I'm almost finishing it off but these last few cups have been kinda weak which somehow makes it even more nasty. Some people would just dump the whole batch but I too pake fo dat.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/4/2016 11:52 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:03:02 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> When I was in university just about everyone smoked it. The only harder
>>> drug that any of them developed problems with was alcohol. They all
>>> seem to have given up pot smoking.
>>
>> Strange that all would just give up. Makes me wonder why they used it
>> in the first place. It's very different here.
>>
> They used it because they liked it. They gave it up, JMHO, due to
> availability and price. In school it was easy enough to find. Once
> you're out of school people scatter, they're busy working, they get
> married, have families. Your friendly classmate with access to weed isn't
> right there anymore.

The first few years that I worked at K Mart, weed was all around me. People
put it in the chocolate topping of Rice Krispy treats or baked it into
brownies and cookies. Then sat back and giggled as unsuspecting coworkers at
the stuff at potlucks. Back then you could still get a bag of the ordinary
stuff for $20.

When I worked in the garden shop, I was often privy to conversations from
coworkers and customers on how to grow the stuff. What kind of lighting and
fertilizer to use to increase the THC and stuff. And then things changed.
>
> Financially, what used to cost US$10-15 an ounce was suddenly priced well
> over $100. Not to mention, in most US States (don't know about Canada)
> it's still illegal. Who wants to serve a long prison term for possession
> of what amounts to a miniscule amount of pot?

Yes. It is sold legally to anyone over 21 here who wants to buy it. Goes by
an assortment of fancy names and comes in strengths far greater than what we
referred to as Maui Wowie back in the 70's and early 80's. Back then that
was the strongest stuff you could get unless you moved up into hash. Please
note that I am no expert on pot but there have been many TV shows about it.

On 2016-08-05 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:07:15 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

> Coffee is always better on Sunday. The coffee I'm drinking now is
> just horrible. I got an 80 K-cup Keurig coffee from Sam's Club I've
> been working for months to finish it off. It was a disappointment
> from the beginning. My office got flooded and the coffee was left in
> a 100 degree environment for 3 days while the workmen dried the place
> out. The coffee after that was pretty harsh. I'm almost finishing it
> off but these last few cups have been kinda weak which somehow makes
> it even more nasty. Some people would just dump the whole batch but I
> too pake fo dat.
>

I don't know about coffee being better on Sunday. Every day is a
weekend for me now. I usually get up long before my wife and I have a
bowl of cereal with fruit for breakfast and then a latte. In the
evening we usually have only a small cup of coffee and use the French
press because you can make one or two cups of good coffee with that
method.

I have tried Keurig coffee several times and was never impressed with
it. It tastes like instant coffee. It tastes like good quality instant,
but it is still instant.

My niece had a Nespresso machine and that thing made great coffee. I
looked into it. The machines are expensive and the coffee pucks are
expensive. I will stick to my drip machine, espresso and French press
choices before I take up more counter space and empty my bank account.

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 9:51:36 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-05 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 8:07:15 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > Coffee is always better on Sunday. The coffee I'm drinking now is
> > just horrible. I got an 80 K-cup Keurig coffee from Sam's Club I've
> > been working for months to finish it off. It was a disappointment
> > from the beginning. My office got flooded and the coffee was left in
> > a 100 degree environment for 3 days while the workmen dried the place
> > out. The coffee after that was pretty harsh. I'm almost finishing it
> > off but these last few cups have been kinda weak which somehow makes
> > it even more nasty. Some people would just dump the whole batch but I
> > too pake fo dat.
> >
>
> I don't know about coffee being better on Sunday. Every day is a
> weekend for me now. I usually get up long before my wife and I have a
> bowl of cereal with fruit for breakfast and then a latte. In the
> evening we usually have only a small cup of coffee and use the French
> press because you can make one or two cups of good coffee with that
> method.

No Sundays? You poor man. Perhaps you better start going to church.

>
> I have tried Keurig coffee several times and was never impressed with
> it. It tastes like instant coffee. It tastes like good quality instant,
> but it is still instant.
>

I had some pretty good K-cup coffee and some bad ones. I can't say that the stuff I'm drinking now is better than instant. Next time, I'll buy the K-cups from Costco.

> My niece had a Nespresso machine and that thing made great coffee. I
> looked into it. The machines are expensive and the coffee pucks are
> expensive. I will stick to my drip machine, espresso and French press
> choices before I take up more counter space and empty my bank account.

I'll probably get a drip coffee maker for home. We have a French press but I'm tired of that sludge on the bottom of the cup. When the Keurig breaks down, it probably will not be replaced. I think it's a good system but that thing has a water pump that sounds like it's on it's last leg. I want a machine with a lever that allows one to brew a K-cup manually. That could be fun, simpler, and more reliable.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/4/2016 11:52 PM, Je???us wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:03:02 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I was in university just about everyone smoked it. The only harder
>>>> drug that any of them developed problems with was alcohol. They all
>>>> seem to have given up pot smoking.
>>>
>>> Strange that all would just give up. Makes me wonder why they used it
>>> in the first place. It's very different here.
>>>
>> They used it because they liked it. They gave it up, JMHO, due to
>> availability and price. In school it was easy enough to find. Once
>> you're out of school people scatter, they're busy working, they get
>> married, have families. Your friendly classmate with access to weed isn't
>> right there anymore.
>
> The first few years that I worked at K Mart, weed was all around me. People
> put it in the chocolate topping of Rice Krispy treats or baked it into
> brownies and cookies. Then sat back and giggled as unsuspecting coworkers at
> the stuff at potlucks. Back then you could still get a bag of the ordinary
> stuff for $20.
>
> When I worked in the garden shop, I was often privy to conversations from
> coworkers and customers on how to grow the stuff. What kind of lighting and
> fertilizer to use to increase the THC and stuff. And then things changed.
>>
>> Financially, what used to cost US$10-15 an ounce was suddenly priced well
>> over $100. Not to mention, in most US States (don't know about Canada)
>> it's still illegal. Who wants to serve a long prison term for possession
>> of what amounts to a miniscule amount of pot?
>
> Yes. It is sold legally to anyone over 21 here who wants to buy it. Goes by
> an assortment of fancy names and comes in strengths far greater than what we
> referred to as Maui Wowie back in the 70's and early 80's. Back then that
> was the strongest stuff you could get unless you moved up into hash. Please
> note that I am no expert on pot but there have been many TV shows about it.

to be an expert you have to be able to quote those Cheech & Chong movies

On 2016-08-05 4:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 9:51:36 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-08-05 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>> My niece had a Nespresso machine and that thing made great coffee.
>> I looked into it. The machines are expensive and the coffee pucks
>> are expensive. I will stick to my drip machine, espresso and French
>> press choices before I take up more counter space and empty my bank
>> account.
>
> I'll probably get a drip coffee maker for home. We have a French
> press but I'm tired of that sludge on the bottom of the cup.

It isn't that hard to deal with. We have a couple kitchen sieves. I
just put in some water, swirl it around and dump it into the sieve.
Then take the sieve to the compost bin, flip it over and tap it. It is
no more work that taking out a coffee filter and disposing of the grounds.

I love my new Keurig,M but can't find any dark roast in decaf in my local stores.
I can't drink any coffee any more without Amaretto creamer in it, so I am far
from a coffee connoisseur. I only drink decaf, but still drink it only in the morning,
and usually just one cup and sometimes two cups. So the Keurig is perfect for me.

I have the gizmo for it so I can use regular ground coffee instead of the K-cups, but
have never used it.

N.

On 8/5/2016 11:25 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-05 4:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 9:51:36 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-05 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> My niece had a Nespresso machine and that thing made great coffee.
>>> I looked into it. The machines are expensive and the coffee pucks
>>> are expensive. I will stick to my drip machine, espresso and French
>>> press choices before I take up more counter space and empty my bank
>>> account.
>>
>> I'll probably get a drip coffee maker for home. We have a French
>> press but I'm tired of that sludge on the bottom of the cup.
>
> It isn't that hard to deal with. We have a couple kitchen sieves. I
> just put in some water, swirl it around and dump it into the sieve. Then
> take the sieve to the compost bin, flip it over and tap it. It is no
> more work that taking out a coffee filter and disposing of the grounds.
>
>

I don't have a compost bin. The easiest thing for me to do is not drink
it all and rinse the last part down the sink or perhaps I can put it in
the cat litter box.

Last night I saw the rabbit in a small box. "What the heck is that
thing?" Somebody made a small litter box for the rabbit because the
rabbits likes to use the cat litter box. That's some crazy shit if you
ask me!

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/4/2016 11:52 PM, Je???us wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:03:02 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was in university just about everyone smoked it. The only
>>>>> harder
>>>>> drug that any of them developed problems with was alcohol. They all
>>>>> seem to have given up pot smoking.
>>>>
>>>> Strange that all would just give up. Makes me wonder why they used it
>>>> in the first place. It's very different here.
>>>>
>>> They used it because they liked it. They gave it up, JMHO, due to
>>> availability and price. In school it was easy enough to find. Once
>>> you're out of school people scatter, they're busy working, they get
>>> married, have families. Your friendly classmate with access to weed
>>> isn't
>>> right there anymore.
>>
>> The first few years that I worked at K Mart, weed was all around me.
>> People
>> put it in the chocolate topping of Rice Krispy treats or baked it into
>> brownies and cookies. Then sat back and giggled as unsuspecting coworkers
>> at
>> the stuff at potlucks. Back then you could still get a bag of the
>> ordinary
>> stuff for $20.
>>
>> When I worked in the garden shop, I was often privy to conversations from
>> coworkers and customers on how to grow the stuff. What kind of lighting
>> and
>> fertilizer to use to increase the THC and stuff. And then things changed.
>>>
>>> Financially, what used to cost US$10-15 an ounce was suddenly priced
>>> well
>>> over $100. Not to mention, in most US States (don't know about Canada)
>>> it's still illegal. Who wants to serve a long prison term for
>>> possession
>>> of what amounts to a miniscule amount of pot?
>>
>> Yes. It is sold legally to anyone over 21 here who wants to buy it. Goes
>> by
>> an assortment of fancy names and comes in strengths far greater than what
>> we
>> referred to as Maui Wowie back in the 70's and early 80's. Back then that
>> was the strongest stuff you could get unless you moved up into hash.
>> Please
>> note that I am no expert on pot but there have been many TV shows about
>> it.
>
> to be an expert you have to be able to quote those Cheech & Chong movies

I never saw a movie. Only heard the records. But I follow Cheech on FB.