nancy young wrote:
>
> I've been amazed at how self possessed skunks are. I opened the
> front door to find a skunk righthere and he was all Heey. Eatin'
> here. Not nervous or looking to spray at all. Did not care about
> us or the cat.
>
> No, I didn't try to shoo it away or anything. I know that polecat
> smell. Don't need it by my front door.

Funny. In my old house, that happened to me once. Early evening and I
was sitting in my living room. I had the front door open because the cat
was out somewhere. In walked a skunk. eh oh. It wandered in the door. I
talked soothingly to it....you don't want to scare a skunk in your
house. Anyway...it just walked all around investigating everything.
Found the cat bowls of food and water and had dinner. maybe 20-30
minutes later, it walked back outside and left. I closed the door until
later when I heard the cat meowing to get in. heheh

l not -l wrote:
>
> On 28-Jul-2016, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I do see a lot of opossum road kill.
> >
> > Called "Good Eats" here in da south if it's fresh roadkill.
> Only had it once, as a child living in western Kentucky; as I recall, it
> was awful Oh my, greasy as a forkful of lard and nowhere near as tasty.
> Squirrel is much better.

Squirrel is very tasty. Much better than rabbit to me. I've never eaten
possum, raccoon, etc. Only deer and a few game birds like quail and
various ducks.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
news:a49415c0-21c3-462c-a3cc-

> They only are trapped if they come near the house. We have two acres.
> They can stay in the back by the drainage ditch without risking their
> lives.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

My point exactly.

Cheri

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 8:41:03 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> The
> second one was crossing the road while I was on my way home late one
> night. The road was covered with fresh snow. I braked to let him cross.
> He made it to the other lane. Unfortunately, when I hit the brakes the
> back end of my pickup swung to the left. I missed him with the front
> tires, but the back tire got him. I do see a lot of opossum road kill.
>
>
Do you know why the chicken crossed the road?

To show a possum it CAN be done.

> wrote in message
news
> As a diver I can tell you the cute seals kill for fun regularly, seen
> them doing it.

I don't doubt it at all.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Drowning is not
>> painful either.
>
> Read about that and learn better.

I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said that
it wasn't painful, since you equate all animals with human, I don't need to
read, but when a possum tells you that it was painful, then I will believe
it, otherwise not.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>l not -l wrote:
>>
>> On 28-Jul-2016, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I do see a lot of opossum road kill.
>> >
>> > Called "Good Eats" here in da south if it's fresh roadkill.
>> Only had it once, as a child living in western Kentucky; as I recall, it
>> was awful Oh my, greasy as a forkful of lard and nowhere near as tasty.
>> Squirrel is much better.
>
> Squirrel is very tasty. Much better than rabbit to me. I've never eaten
> possum, raccoon, etc. Only deer and a few game birds like quail and
> various ducks.

We used to have grey squirrel often when I was a kid, but I don't eat any of
it now. I don't care for wild game birds, deer, rabbits, etc. anymore
either, though we had that often as kids too.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 8:41:03 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> The
>> second one was crossing the road while I was on my way home late one
>> night. The road was covered with fresh snow. I braked to let him cross.
>> He made it to the other lane. Unfortunately, when I hit the brakes the
>> back end of my pickup swung to the left. I missed him with the front
>> tires, but the back tire got him. I do see a lot of opossum road kill.
>>
>>
> Do you know why the chicken crossed the road?
>
> To show a possum it CAN be done.

Ha Ha, funny.

Cheri

"Gary" wrote in message ...

l not -l wrote:
>
> On 28-Jul-2016, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I do see a lot of opossum road kill.
> >
> > Called "Good Eats" here in da south if it's fresh roadkill.
> Only had it once, as a child living in western Kentucky; as I recall, it
> was awful Oh my, greasy as a forkful of lard and nowhere near as tasty.
> Squirrel is much better.

Squirrel is very tasty. Much better than rabbit to me. I've never eaten
possum, raccoon, etc. Only deer and a few game birds like quail and
various ducks.

--------------------------

Squirrel is a bit like pork .. not bad



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Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Drowning is not
> >> painful either.
> >
> > Read about that and learn better.
>
> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said that
> it wasn't painful,

LOL! People have told you they drowned and it wasn't bad. really?
I sincerely hope you never get to verify that.

>since you equate all animals with human, I don't need to
> read, but when a possum tells you that it was painful, then I will believe
> it, otherwise not.

Yeah, who cares about a possum? Just drown it and be rid of it.

Well ok. I would never kill an animal just because it was in my yard.
To drown one of God's living creatures just because they're on your
property? And I'm not even playing the religion card. All life on earth
is valuable. Humans seem to think they are gods and often kill
friviously. Are you people really that cold?

And yes, I killed that brown recluse kid in my house. I'm still not
perfect but I'm working on it.

wrote:
>
> As a diver I can tell you the cute seals kill for fun regularly, seen
> them doing it.

They play with their food as many animals do. They still eat them in the
end.

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:36:36 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 03:50:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:02:40 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > On 7/27/2016 1:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Possums are super meek and friendly.
> >> >
> >> > I'm guessing you never caught one in a Havaheart trap.
> >> >
> >> > Think pointy teeth and hissing fury. Scared the hell out
> >> > of me.
> >>
> >> What would you do?
> >
> >I know Gary wouldn't do this, but my husband would stick the
> >Havahart trap with the possum still in it into a big container
> >of water. He'd rather shoot it with his .22 (which would be quicker
> >and thus more humane, but doesn't want to risk skipping a round off
> >into the neighborhood behind us.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> You and your mate are two very sick retards... probably as children
> got your jollies pulling wings off butterflies... you're the types who
> become serial killers. A normal brained human being would relocate
> the trapped critter... drive a few miles and release it in the woods,
> preferably at a livestock farm where there's plenty of food and water.
> If you don't know what to do call the humane society. I release
> possums a mile down the road at a large dairy farm where lots of wild
> critters feed with the cows... anytime I drive by there are deer and
> wild turkeys eating along with the cows.

Why? No matter how many he kills, they make more. It's not like there's
a dearth of small animals in suburbia. In the city of Ann Arbor,
in fact, they've had to hire shooters to cull the deer. Last month
I saw a doe and her fawn crossing a busy, 5-lane, 45-mph road lined
with strip malls at 4 in the afternoon.

He sometimes leaves them for scavengers, but I hate running over
the corpses with the lawnmower if they aren't eaten, so I've
asked him not to do that.

Cindy Hamilton

Cheri wrote:
>
> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said that
> it wasn't painful, since you equate all animals with human, I don't need to
> read, but when a possum tells you that it was painful, then I will believe
> it, otherwise not.

Next time her husband drowns a possum, have him take a video of it and
post it here. Let's just all see how the possum felt about that. Then
the husband will go to jail for animal cruelty, especially if I'm on the
jury. geez. You are defending evil crap. I thought better of you,
Cheri.

Live and learn, I guess.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Cheri wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Drowning is not
>> >> painful either.
>> >
>> > Read about that and learn better.
>>
>> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said
>> that
>> it wasn't painful,
>
> LOL! People have told you they drowned and it wasn't bad. really?
> I sincerely hope you never get to verify that.

What? You've never heard from people that had drowned and were revived
telling of the sensations, etc.? I have.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said
>> that
>> it wasn't painful, since you equate all animals with human, I don't need
>> to
>> read, but when a possum tells you that it was painful, then I will
>> believe
>> it, otherwise not.
>
> Next time her husband drowns a possum, have him take a video of it and
> post it here. Let's just all see how the possum felt about that. Then
> the husband will go to jail for animal cruelty, especially if I'm on the
> jury. geez. You are defending evil crap. I thought better of you,
> Cheri.
>
> Live and learn, I guess.

I thought you were smarter than you are too Gary, but obviously not, you
sound like some kind of nut to me at times, this being one of them.

Live and learn, I guess.

Cheri

On 7/28/2016 2:42 PM, Gary wrote:
> nancy young wrote:
>>
>> I've been amazed at how self possessed skunks are. I opened the
>> front door to find a skunk righthere and he was all Heey. Eatin'
>> here. Not nervous or looking to spray at all. Did not care about
>> us or the cat.
>>
>> No, I didn't try to shoo it away or anything. I know that polecat
>> smell. Don't need it by my front door.
>
> Funny. In my old house, that happened to me once. Early evening and I
> was sitting in my living room. I had the front door open because the cat
> was out somewhere. In walked a skunk. eh oh. It wandered in the door. I
> talked soothingly to it....you don't want to scare a skunk in your
> house. Anyway...it just walked all around investigating everything.
> Found the cat bowls of food and water and had dinner. maybe 20-30
> minutes later, it walked back outside and left. I closed the door until
> later when I heard the cat meowing to get in. heheh

Holy crap, it came into the house. That's too much. I do love
animals but most need to stay outside.

nancy

On 2016-07-28 1:30 PM, Gary wrote:
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 7/28/2016 8:39 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Top of the food chain animals kill for food and survival. Humans are
>>> also top of the food chain animals in many cases but only WE kill for
>>> sport or just because some other animal annoys us. How dare we? We
>>> really aren't "all that." Hunt for food but let the other animals live.
>>>
>>
>> it is not true that there are no animals other than humans that kill for
>> sport.
>
> News to me but I'm willing to learn. What other animal kills for sport
> and doesn't eat the kill?
>


Are you willing enough to learn that you might actually look it up
yourself. I knew you were wrong but I did a little online research and
confirmed that you are very wrong.

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 7/28/2016 2:42 PM, Gary wrote:
> nancy young wrote:
>>
>> I've been amazed at how self possessed skunks are. I opened the
>> front door to find a skunk righthere and he was all Heey. Eatin'
>> here. Not nervous or looking to spray at all. Did not care about
>> us or the cat.
>>
>> No, I didn't try to shoo it away or anything. I know that polecat
>> smell. Don't need it by my front door.
>
> Funny. In my old house, that happened to me once. Early evening and I
> was sitting in my living room. I had the front door open because the cat
> was out somewhere. In walked a skunk. eh oh. It wandered in the door. I
> talked soothingly to it....you don't want to scare a skunk in your
> house. Anyway...it just walked all around investigating everything.
> Found the cat bowls of food and water and had dinner. maybe 20-30
> minutes later, it walked back outside and left. I closed the door until
> later when I heard the cat meowing to get in. heheh

Holy crap, it came into the house. That's too much. I do love
animals but most need to stay outside.

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Which is exactly where they belong!

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Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > LOL! People have told you they drowned and it wasn't bad. really?
> > I sincerely hope you never get to verify that.
>
> What? You've never heard from people that had drowned and were revived
> telling of the sensations, etc.? I have.

Many years ago my brother came here for a visit. I was at work so he
went to the beach for a bit. He had an epilepsy attack and he drowned.
I guess not long later someone noticed him floating face down drifting
north in the current. He was revived and he spent a week in ICU here.
Kind of ruined his vacation. Talking about it later, he had no fond
memories.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Why? No matter how many he kills, they make more.

oh man

On 2016-07-28, nancy young > wrote:

> But I'm not read up on it.

How many, here, wish she was blue up on it? (snork!)

nb --wild turkey

On 2016-07-28 3:22 PM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> As a diver I can tell you the cute seals kill for fun regularly, seen
>> them doing it.
>
> They play with their food as many animals do. They still eat them in the
> end.
>



Okay. The picture is clear. You are choosing to remain willfully
ignorant. There are animals that kill and do not eat their victims.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > LOL! People have told you they drowned and it wasn't bad. really?
>> > I sincerely hope you never get to verify that.
>>
>> What? You've never heard from people that had drowned and were revived
>> telling of the sensations, etc.? I have.
>
> Many years ago my brother came here for a visit. I was at work so he
> went to the beach for a bit. He had an epilepsy attack and he drowned.
> I guess not long later someone noticed him floating face down drifting
> north in the current. He was revived and he spent a week in ICU here.
> Kind of ruined his vacation. Talking about it later, he had no fond
> memories.

Nobody said they were fond memories, but they have said there was no pain.

Cheri

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:21:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cheri wrote:

>> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said that
>> it wasn't painful,
>
>LOL! People have told you they drowned and it wasn't bad. really?
>I sincerely hope you never get to verify that.
>
I nearly drowned as a kid and it really wasn't that bad - I was sort
of dozing off when a man grabbed me and hauled me out. I remember
mostly looking up towards the top, seeing the sun filtering through
and bubbles going up to the surface.

Worse than that was my mother and aunts threatening me if I let slip
to my grandmother I had to be rescued

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:22:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> As a diver I can tell you the cute seals kill for fun regularly, seen
>> them doing it.
>
>They play with their food as many animals do. They still eat them in the
>end.

Not always, I watched about a dozen seals in a shoal of mackerel. They
deked about, enjoyed it hugely, would take a bite here and there. When
the shoal and the seals were gone there were all sorts of partial fish
floating around. I certainly didn't have the impression they were
eating to fill their bellies.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:38:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said
>>> that
>>> it wasn't painful, since you equate all animals with human, I don't need
>>> to
>>> read, but when a possum tells you that it was painful, then I will
>>> believe
>>> it, otherwise not.
>>
>> Next time her husband drowns a possum, have him take a video of it and
>> post it here. Let's just all see how the possum felt about that. Then
>> the husband will go to jail for animal cruelty, especially if I'm on the
>> jury. geez. You are defending evil crap. I thought better of you,
>> Cheri.
>>
>> Live and learn, I guess.
>
>I thought you were smarter than you are too Gary, but obviously not, you
>sound like some kind of nut to me at times, this being one of them.
>
>Live and learn, I guess.
>
>Cheri

Well he could drive the possum ten miles away and release there.
Dropping the trap in the water - - -

On 2016-07-28, > wrote:

> I nearly drowned as a kid and it really wasn't that bad - I was sort
> of dozing off when a man grabbed me and hauled me out.

Yeah, well yer pretty much brain dead anyway. I suspect you been
"hauled" more often than you let on.

nb --wild turkey

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 9:21:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> > As a diver I can tell you the cute seals kill for fun regularly, seen
> > them doing it.
>
> They play with their food as many animals do. They still eat them in the
> end.

Cats will eat their kills about 30% of the time.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:10:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
>> Critters call to all their buddies, even tell them the menu.
>> Birds have excellent telescopic vision, they constantly scan for
>> food... you won't see them up in the tree tops but they will see you.
>> As soon as I toss out birdseed dozens of birds arrive instantly, and
>> ground critters watch and listen for the birds chattering and arrive
>> seconds later. There are dozens of crows in the tree tops a 1/4 mile
>> away, all I need do is open the sliders to my deck and they are there
>> on the ground looking at me... I have them well trained... they have
>> me well trained too. The crows get all the dried canned cat food
>> leavings, I soak the bowls to loosen the food and toss it out for the
>> crows, not a speck gets wasted. Crows eat everything, especially
>> carrion, they're first on the scene to clean up roadkill.
>
>I used to have a pet bluejay that would always come to the patio table and
>take peanuts from our hand. We have a pic of him sitting there with a tall
>neck Budweiser next to him. My friends didn't care for the fact that he
>would swoop in and startle them, but I loved that bird. I always give the
>jays peanuts, but now that I don't smoke anymore, not on the patio much,
>have never taken the time to tame one like "Blueboy" was. I hate crows and
>don't encourage them.
>
>Cheri

I have dozens of bluejays that were born here, woodpeckers, redwing
black birds, cardinals, and several more, even cow birds. I feed them
all, they are all beautiful. I especially admire the crows, they are
the smartest. The crows are large birds so they eat more but I don't
mind, I feed them all they can eat... 50 pounds of cracked corn costs
less than $8. I mix the premium bird seed with cracked corn, the
larger birds prefer the corn. Anyway feeding critters is my only
charitable donation, critters don't steal, everyone of the rest are
thieves, you're lucky if a nickle of every dollar donated goes to help
anyone, the admins draw huge salaries. When I feed critters every
cent goes goes to the critters... critters have no pockets. Years ago
I donated to the catholic childrens organization that advertised on TV
until I discovered that they are totally phony, there are no children,
they are stealing. The letters you send are answered by adults. All
you have to do is say you want to visit the child in the picture they
send you, the child doesn't exist, there is no child to visit. When I
feed critters I never get ripped off. I hate that my tax dollars go
to supply food stamps to lazy no account *******s, especially since
they are exchanged at small mom 'n pop groceries for 75¢ on the
dollar, where they use that cash for beer and cigs.

Gary wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Why? No matter how many he kills, they make more.
>
>oh man

Don't waste your energy on sicko ****ers.

On 7/27/2016 1:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> Throw it wherever you want. Mine would go into the garbage because I
>> don't want to attract rats, raccoons, possums etc.
>
> Come on...all of those animals are cute and friendly if you feed them.
> Rats are supposedly friendly but my daughter's rat bit me...*******
> Raccoon are cool too except in Bothell.
> Possums are super meek and friendly.
> etc. animals have their good sides too.
>
I have to draw the line about feeding some outdoor animals. I used to
put food out for stray cats and it attracted intact males and soon my
house was peed all over because they mark their territory, and intact
male cat pee stinks to high heaven. Yes I trapped some had some
neutered/spayed, which is how I got Bonnie. But this area is not good
for TNR because of the busy roads and I'd have a hard time if some
couldn't be rehomed because I'm a sucker for cats. I don't have a barn
or anywhere safe for letting them stay so I had to stop feeding them to
discourage them hanging around. And yes, possums will eat cat food
and I don't mind them, but they freaked out my indoor cats.

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On 7/28/2016 12:02 PM, Gary wrote:
> nancy young wrote:
>>
>> Our goal was to catch a groundhog. I don't want one of those in
>> my yard, they can do a number on your pool.
>
> I'll send you a ferret, Nancy.
>
> Speaking about groundhogs. The only wild ferrets are the Black footed
> ferrets and they are endangered. Their main food source is groundhogs.
> Well groundhogs are getting disease from fleas. It's killing them but
> it's also killing the ferrets that eat them. US govt is spreading m&ms
> with peanut butter and vaccine in the wild using drones. Groundhogs eat
> them, stay healthy, then ferrets won't die by eating them. This is a
> cool ferret win story, imo. :-D (you KNOW I like this one)
>
> According to this one story (below) there are very few wild ferrets left
> (300?) I don't think it's quite that bad but then maybe it is.
>
> http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...o_save_en.html
>

I like stories where scientists are working to save endangered species
where possible, but I suspect the polar bears are out of everyone's
control at this point. And it's cool that they're not trying to just
kill the fleas to save both groundhogs and ferrets because every species
has some sort of purpose. Maybe the fleas purpose is to kill off either
ferrets or groundhogs? Who knows. I hope not.


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On 7/28/2016 12:13 PM, Gary wrote:

> Anyway about the rabies thing...saw on the news just this morning that
> someone caught (?) a raccoon with rabies (?) only about 12 blocks from
> my house. Never heard about that anywhere near me in 40-years until now.
> scary.

I've heard about quite a lot of rabies cases in MD recently, and
unfortunately many of them are cats.

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On 7/28/2016 1:46 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> If you see a raccoon acting really strange try to make friends with it Gary,
>> won't you at least try? After all it's not the raccoons fault it has rabies.
>> LOL
>
> You are correct. If the raccoon has rabies, it's not her fault. I say
> her because I've had one living on my building for a few years. She's on
> my balcony (early morning) occasionally and with a baby in springtime.
> So far, I haven't been tempted to kill her. We share the porch. no
> worries.
>
The one on your balcony has rabies?

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On 7/28/2016 1:00 PM, nancy young wrote:
>
> I've been amazed at how self possessed skunks are. I opened the
> front door to find a skunk righthere and he was all Heey. Eatin'
> here. Not nervous or looking to spray at all. Did not care about
> us or the cat.
>
> No, I didn't try to shoo it away or anything. I know that polecat
> smell. Don't need it by my front door.

This reminds me of a raccoon story from many years ago. Back when my ex
and I were married, he went outside after it was dark, came back in to
get something telling me a huge raccoon was getting in the trash. He
said it was so big it was just standing on hind legs to pull trash out.
Ex tossed one of his work boots at it, it hit the raccoon and the
raccoon, unfazed, just stared at him. Ex just let him eat and get into
the trash to his hearts content after that. lol

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On 7/28/2016 2:42 PM, Gary wrote:
> nancy young wrote:
>>
>> I've been amazed at how self possessed skunks are. I opened the
>> front door to find a skunk righthere and he was all Heey. Eatin'
>> here. Not nervous or looking to spray at all. Did not care about
>> us or the cat.
>>
>> No, I didn't try to shoo it away or anything. I know that polecat
>> smell. Don't need it by my front door.
>
> Funny. In my old house, that happened to me once. Early evening and I
> was sitting in my living room. I had the front door open because the cat
> was out somewhere. In walked a skunk. eh oh. It wandered in the door. I
> talked soothingly to it....you don't want to scare a skunk in your
> house. Anyway...it just walked all around investigating everything.
> Found the cat bowls of food and water and had dinner. maybe 20-30
> minutes later, it walked back outside and left. I closed the door until
> later when I heard the cat meowing to get in. heheh
>
Brave soul. I hate to ask what you would have done if he wanted to
explore the house more? lol

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On 7/28/2016 12:20 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 7:14:34 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:02:40 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/27/2016 1:56 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Possums are super meek and friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing you never caught one in a Havaheart trap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think pointy teeth and hissing fury. Scared the hell out
>>>>> of me.
>>>>
>>>> What would you do?
>>>
>>> I know Gary wouldn't do this, but my husband would stick the
>>> Havahart trap with the possum still in it into a big container
>>> of water. He'd rather shoot it with his .22 (which would be quicker
>>> and thus more humane, but doesn't want to risk skipping a round off
>>> into the neighborhood behind us.
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> We have laws about shooting in built up areas. Do you have that or was it
>>> his preference?
>>
>> Both, actually. He probably could get off a single shot without
>> anybody really noticing, but he knows it's just a bad idea.
>
> It must really suck to be possum caught in an "animal friendly" trap in
> your yard.
>
True dat.

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On 7/28/2016 4:40 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:21:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Cheri wrote:
>
>>> I have heard from people that had drowned and were revived, they said that
>>> it wasn't painful,
>>
>> LOL! People have told you they drowned and it wasn't bad. really?
>> I sincerely hope you never get to verify that.
>>
> I nearly drowned as a kid and it really wasn't that bad - I was sort
> of dozing off when a man grabbed me and hauled me out. I remember
> mostly looking up towards the top, seeing the sun filtering through
> and bubbles going up to the surface.
>
> Worse than that was my mother and aunts threatening me if I let slip
> to my grandmother I had to be rescued
>
I nearly drowned as a kid caught in a rip tide in the ocean and I sure
don't recall feeling anything other than panic and completely exhausted
when I finally got to shore. I'll never believe anyone said it wasn't
that bad.

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On 7/28/2016 11:42 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/28/2016 8:39 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> I know Gary wouldn't do this, but my husband would stick the
>>> Havahart trap with the possum still in it into a big container
>>> of water. He'd rather shoot it with his .22 (which would be quicker
>>> and thus more humane, but doesn't want to risk skipping a round off
>>> into the neighborhood behind us.
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> We have laws about shooting in built up areas. Do you have that or
>>> was it
>>> his preference?
>>
>> That's your only concern with this story? ;o
>> In many usain states, call the game wardens when you catch a wild animal
>> in a Havahart trap. They will come pick it up, drive it out somewhere
>> and release it and even return your trap.
>>
>> Top of the food chain animals kill for food and survival. Humans are
>> also top of the food chain animals in many cases but only WE kill for
>> sport or just because some other animal annoys us. How dare we? We
>> really aren't "all that." Hunt for food but let the other animals live.
>>
>
> it is not true that there are no animals other than humans that kill for
> sport.

Very true. Nearly all of the cat family do.


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On 7/28/2016 1:41 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. For a start cats will kill just for sport.
>>
>> Yes, and on the National Geograpic Channel it showed whales killing seals
>> for sport.
>
> OK, I agree. There's two. And I watched that National Graphic show. It
> was killer whales playing.
>
> Difference though...in both cases so far, the killers did eat the kill
> after the sport ended.
>
> They don't just kill for meanness like some humans do.
>
Sorry to say, and I know you know this, but cats will kill and leave the
corpse at your door if they are "owned". But from what I understand
this has meaning, it is either a thank you, or they think you need to
learn how to kill your food like they do and they are trying to teach
you. LOL

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