On 8/6/2016 7:32 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:21:50 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2016 7:14 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:56:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2016 6:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> Many years ago I had on a Danish restaurant in a nearby city and dessert
>>>>> was deep fried Camembert with strawberry jam. Years later I was in
>>>>> Denmark and my dessert one night was Camembert baked in a pastry and
>>>>> served with a blueberry sauce.
>>>>>
>>>> Camembert with a dollop of mango or peach or apricot chutney and then
>>>> baked in pastry is delish.
>>>
>>> Pears and cheese is another great combination.
>>>
>> Blue cheese, pears and walnuts:-)
>
> Oh yes indeed!
>
I've posted this before but.....

Hot pears with rocquefort and walnuts
From "Matching food and wine" by Michel Roux Jr.
The recipe calls for 2 pears but they must be huge as I found that the
mix was sufficient for 4.

4 ripe pears
120g Rocquefort, crumbled (I used 100g as that was the size of the
pre-pack,
all I could find)
60g walnuts, chopped
1 Tbsp crème fraîche
1 Tbsp port
1 spring onion, chopped
S&P (not necessary, IMO)

Cut the pears in half lengthwise and remove the core and stringy bits.
Use a melon baller to scoop out the flesh, leaving a couple of
millimetres or so to form 8 boats.
Mix the pear pieces with the walnuts and cheese, fold in the crème, port
and onion. Fill the boats and bake at 180C for 15 minutes. Brown under
hot grill for 2-3 minutes.
I found that they browned nicely in my convection oven.
I also think that it would work with Stilton.
I cooked them just before the meal so that by the time they were served
for "afters", they were warm rather than hot and I think that that is
preferable.
He suggests it works as a starter or sweet, admittedly a savoury/sweet.
I think that by leaving out the onion, it might be better as a sweet.
For wine, he suggests a sweet wine such as Bonnezeaux, sweet, Oloroso
sherry or Tawny Port.
I served it with a Sauternes which also worked beautifully.

On 2016-08-06 9:14 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:56:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2016 6:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Many years ago I had on a Danish restaurant in a nearby city and dessert
>>> was deep fried Camembert with strawberry jam. Years later I was in
>>> Denmark and my dessert one night was Camembert baked in a pastry and
>>> served with a blueberry sauce.
>>>
>> Camembert with a dollop of mango or peach or apricot chutney and then
>> baked in pastry is delish.
>
> Pears and cheese is another great combination.
>


Pear and blue cheese is one of the world's great flavour combinations.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:45:20 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 8/6/2016 7:32 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:21:50 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/6/2016 7:14 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:56:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/6/2016 6:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> Many years ago I had on a Danish restaurant in a nearby city and dessert
>>>>>> was deep fried Camembert with strawberry jam. Years later I was in
>>>>>> Denmark and my dessert one night was Camembert baked in a pastry and
>>>>>> served with a blueberry sauce.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Camembert with a dollop of mango or peach or apricot chutney and then
>>>>> baked in pastry is delish.
>>>>
>>>> Pears and cheese is another great combination.
>>>>
>>> Blue cheese, pears and walnuts:-)
>>
>> Oh yes indeed!
>>
>I've posted this before but.....
>
>Hot pears with rocquefort and walnuts
> From "Matching food and wine" by Michel Roux Jr.
>The recipe calls for 2 pears but they must be huge as I found that the
>mix was sufficient for 4.
>
>4 ripe pears
>120g Rocquefort, crumbled (I used 100g as that was the size of the
>pre-pack,
>all I could find)
>60g walnuts, chopped
>1 Tbsp crème fraîche
>1 Tbsp port
>1 spring onion, chopped
>S&P (not necessary, IMO)
>
>Cut the pears in half lengthwise and remove the core and stringy bits.
>Use a melon baller to scoop out the flesh, leaving a couple of
>millimetres or so to form 8 boats.
>Mix the pear pieces with the walnuts and cheese, fold in the crème, port
>and onion. Fill the boats and bake at 180C for 15 minutes. Brown under
>hot grill for 2-3 minutes.
>I found that they browned nicely in my convection oven.
>I also think that it would work with Stilton.
>I cooked them just before the meal so that by the time they were served
>for "afters", they were warm rather than hot and I think that that is
>preferable.
>He suggests it works as a starter or sweet, admittedly a savoury/sweet.
>I think that by leaving out the onion, it might be better as a sweet.
>For wine, he suggests a sweet wine such as Bonnezeaux, sweet, Oloroso
>sherry or Tawny Port.
>I served it with a Sauternes which also worked beautifully.

Thanks for the recipe Graham, I know that's something I'll really
like. I have a few pear trees in my orchard but we are several months
away before any fruit will be ready.

I have some new pear varieties to replace some cherry trees I am
removing (too high maintenance). These ones are varieties specifically
for making perry (pear cider).

Jeßus wrote:
>
>I have some new pear varieties to replace some cherry trees I am
>removing (too high maintenance). These ones are varieties specifically
>for making perry (pear cider).

I'd a thunk perry would be pear-cherry cider... fermenting a hard bosc
pear and sour cherry mash would make a great perry wine. I well
understand what a PIA fruit trees can be, that's why I quit after two
plum and two apple... constant insect/fungus attacks, labor of
pruning, and worst is bad luck with weather, so many times perfect
blossoms, lots of bees, and then a ****ing frost and all the
pollenated blossoms drop off before fruit sets..., lots of fruit
orchards nearby but I think I'm at too high an elevation for fruit
trees, I have great crops of crabapples but not eating apples. My
flowering pear and crabapple trees do fantastically well, wonderful
blossom displays... at least the critters get to enjoy those crops.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 17:34:26 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>I have some new pear varieties to replace some cherry trees I am
>>removing (too high maintenance). These ones are varieties specifically
>>for making perry (pear cider).
>
>I'd a thunk perry would be pear-cherry cider... fermenting a hard bosc
>pear and sour cherry mash would make a great perry wine.

I'm sure that would be nice. So far I have only made a couple of
cherry meads and several bottles of whole cherries infused in 40%
ethanol.

>I well
>understand what a PIA fruit trees can be, that's why I quit after two
>plum and two apple...

I have 33 trees in my orchard. I was a little *too* keen and
enthusiastic when I first moved here. Not to worry, none of the fruit
will be wasted.

>constant insect/fungus attacks, labor of
>pruning, and worst is bad luck with weather, so many times perfect
>blossoms, lots of bees, and then a ****ing frost and all the
>pollenated blossoms drop off before fruit sets...,

I have already eliminated the peach and nectarines (it seems the
season is just too short here for them), same for apricots. The
cherries are next. Pears, apple and quinces go great here so that's
what I will stick to. Oh, plums and prunes do okay here too. Only real
pest problem I have is called 'pear and cherry slug' but that's easily
controlled with a safe bacterial spray.

>lots of fruit
>orchards nearby but I think I'm at too high an elevation for fruit
>trees, I have great crops of crabapples but not eating apples. My
>flowering pear and crabapple trees do fantastically well, wonderful
>blossom displays... at least the critters get to enjoy those crops.

My main problem here is (marsupial) possums. They are incredibly
destructive. I will be electrifying the fence before spring... that
should sort that problem out.

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 07:50:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 17:34:26 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>I have some new pear varieties to replace some cherry trees I am
>>>removing (too high maintenance). These ones are varieties specifically
>>>for making perry (pear cider).
>>
>>I'd a thunk perry would be pear-cherry cider... fermenting a hard bosc
>>pear and sour cherry mash would make a great perry wine.
>
>I'm sure that would be nice. So far I have only made a couple of
>cherry meads and several bottles of whole cherries infused in 40%
>ethanol.
>
>>I well
>>understand what a PIA fruit trees can be, that's why I quit after two
>>plum and two apple...
>
>I have 33 trees in my orchard. I was a little *too* keen and
>enthusiastic when I first moved here. Not to worry, none of the fruit
>will be wasted.
>
>>constant insect/fungus attacks, labor of
>>pruning, and worst is bad luck with weather, so many times perfect
>>blossoms, lots of bees, and then a ****ing frost and all the
>>pollenated blossoms drop off before fruit sets...,
>
>I have already eliminated the peach and nectarines (it seems the
>season is just too short here for them), same for apricots. The
>cherries are next. Pears, apple and quinces go great here so that's
>what I will stick to. Oh, plums and prunes do okay here too. Only real
>pest problem I have is called 'pear and cherry slug' but that's easily
>controlled with a safe bacterial spray.
>
>>lots of fruit
>>orchards nearby but I think I'm at too high an elevation for fruit
>>trees, I have great crops of crabapples but not eating apples. My
>>flowering pear and crabapple trees do fantastically well, wonderful
>>blossom displays... at least the critters get to enjoy those crops.
>
>My main problem here is (marsupial) possums. They are incredibly
>destructive. I will be electrifying the fence before spring... that
>should sort that problem out.

Here the birds do the most foraging,,, crows are smart, also very
strong and tenacious. I tried growing blueberries but the crows would
be there before sun up taking the ripest. Netting didnt help, crows
quickly figured out how to tear through nylon netting with their razor
sharp beaks.

On 2016-08-07 8:46 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 07:50:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>

> Here the birds do the most foraging,,, crows are smart, also very
> strong and tenacious. I tried growing blueberries but the crows would
> be there before sun up taking the ripest. Netting didnt help, crows
> quickly figured out how to tear through nylon netting with their razor
> sharp beaks.
>


I planted a blueberries bush more than 5 years. In l that time I have
only had a half dozen berries from them. Some critters get them as soon
as the ripen, even though it is covered with 1/4@ mesh screening.


I saw a strange thing in a nearby orchard last month when the cherries
ripened. There was a flock of gulls hovering over one section of the
orchard and there was one gull actually perched on a branch pecking at
cherries.

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 21:18:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-07 8:46 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 07:50:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>
>> Here the birds do the most foraging,,, crows are smart, also very
>> strong and tenacious. I tried growing blueberries but the crows would
>> be there before sun up taking the ripest. Netting didnt help, crows
>> quickly figured out how to tear through nylon netting with their razor
>> sharp beaks.
>>
>
>
>I planted a blueberries bush more than 5 years. In l that time I have
>only had a half dozen berries from them. Some critters get them as soon
>as the ripen, even though it is covered with 1/4@ mesh screening.

Could be mice digging under the screen. I still have my bleberry
bushes but I don't bother with protecting tehm from critters anymore,
not worth it.

>I saw a strange thing in a nearby orchard last month when the cherries
>ripened. There was a flock of gulls hovering over one section of the
>orchard and there was one gull actually perched on a branch pecking at
>cherries.

Gulls will come inland on their migations. I sometimes see gulls and
other birds that don't live here.

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:17:25 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Gulls will come inland on their migations. I sometimes see gulls and
> other birds that don't live here.

I see ring-billed and herring gulls all of the time. Mostly in parking
lots looking for garbage.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-08-08 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:17:25 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Gulls will come inland on their migations. I sometimes see gulls and
>> other birds that don't live here.
>
> I see ring-billed and herring gulls all of the time. Mostly in parking
> lots looking for garbage.

They are common around here. I am right between Lakes Erie and Ontario
so there is a good supply of them at each lake, but they come inland and
swarm famer's fields when they are plowing. There are often called shit
hawks or dump ducks. If you are trying to find a garbage dump it is
usually a good idea to look in the air and if there are a bunch of gulls
circling around there is a good chance it is the dump.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:46:23 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 07:50:00 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 17:34:26 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>>
>>>Jeßus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I have some new pear varieties to replace some cherry trees I am
>>>>removing (too high maintenance). These ones are varieties specifically
>>>>for making perry (pear cider).
>>>
>>>I'd a thunk perry would be pear-cherry cider... fermenting a hard bosc
>>>pear and sour cherry mash would make a great perry wine.
>>
>>I'm sure that would be nice. So far I have only made a couple of
>>cherry meads and several bottles of whole cherries infused in 40%
>>ethanol.
>>
>>>I well
>>>understand what a PIA fruit trees can be, that's why I quit after two
>>>plum and two apple...
>>
>>I have 33 trees in my orchard. I was a little *too* keen and
>>enthusiastic when I first moved here. Not to worry, none of the fruit
>>will be wasted.
>>
>>>constant insect/fungus attacks, labor of
>>>pruning, and worst is bad luck with weather, so many times perfect
>>>blossoms, lots of bees, and then a ****ing frost and all the
>>>pollenated blossoms drop off before fruit sets...,
>>
>>I have already eliminated the peach and nectarines (it seems the
>>season is just too short here for them), same for apricots. The
>>cherries are next. Pears, apple and quinces go great here so that's
>>what I will stick to. Oh, plums and prunes do okay here too. Only real
>>pest problem I have is called 'pear and cherry slug' but that's easily
>>controlled with a safe bacterial spray.
>>
>>>lots of fruit
>>>orchards nearby but I think I'm at too high an elevation for fruit
>>>trees, I have great crops of crabapples but not eating apples. My
>>>flowering pear and crabapple trees do fantastically well, wonderful
>>>blossom displays... at least the critters get to enjoy those crops.
>>
>>My main problem here is (marsupial) possums. They are incredibly
>>destructive. I will be electrifying the fence before spring... that
>>should sort that problem out.
>
>Here the birds do the most foraging,,, crows are smart, also very
>strong and tenacious. I tried growing blueberries but the crows would
>be there before sun up taking the ripest. Netting didnt help, crows
>quickly figured out how to tear through nylon netting with their razor
>sharp beaks.

They're clever buggers all right, a friend grows raspberries and birds
are his number one problem. I don't seem to have much of a problem
here with birds, not with the apple and pears at least.