On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 8:02:13 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:22:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >
> > >Oops, when I ate the fried rice, I forgot to think about my aunt that
> > >passed away. I'm thinking about her now...
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Good man I make fried rice for my husband which he likes *very* much.
> > I
> > use brown Basmati rice, prawns, peas and sliced omelette. I use soya
> > sauce
> > in the mix.
> >
> > Now, tell me what I am doing wrong and how to make it better
> >
> > --
> > http;//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> If your husband likes it very much, don't mess with it! I like peas in fried
> rice but my daughter will just spend her time pulling them out. I didn't
> care for peas either when I was her age.
>
> -------
>
> Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it better or
> even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That would be like interfering with your marriage. This I cannot do. Not to worry though, mostly my suggestion would be to kick it up a notch heatwise.

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 9:03:02 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:28:28 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 12:24:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:48:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't foresee people on the mainland eating rice with mac salad. These days, I'll get a tossed salad instead of mac - if I remember to tell them. I can no longer abide by that practice. The young'un can though. Beats me how that practice came about.
> > >
> > > It's inexpensive and filling. If you had a hard afternoon's work ahead,
> > > potato salad would get you farther than tossed salad.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Mostly they serve macaroni salad over here. If they were serving potato salad, I'd take that instead of a tossed salad. I like potato salad!
>
> Sorry, couldn't tell from the pic which it was. I consider them pretty
> interchangeable: starch with mayonnaise. When I was a kid, we always
> made potato-and-macaroni-salad.

That's my favorite salad of all time. I'll eat that any time of the day. A perfect breakfast would be kim chee fried rice and potato-mac salad. I don't get to eat a perfect breakfast too often.

>
> Still, when I go to the Korean restaurant they often serve a very mushy
> potato salad as one of the banchan. It makes a nice foil to all of
> the spicy ones.

That's popular here but we only get that in Korean restaurants. It appears to be simply roasted potatoes and mayo.

http://www.tastyislandhawaii.com/ima..._fish_jun5.jpg

>
> Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 3:41:46 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> That's popular here but we only get that in Korean restaurants. It appears to be simply roasted potatoes and mayo.
>
> http://www.tastyislandhawaii.com/ima..._fish_jun5.jpg

Nice. Ours looks more like this:

<http://essentialwanderings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/DSC_0108-1024x868.jpg>

Peas and carrots (previously frozen, I imagine) are pretty standard
inclusions, as are scallions.

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 8:02:13 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:22:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >
> > >Oops, when I ate the fried rice, I forgot to think about my aunt that
> > >passed away. I'm thinking about her now...
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Good man I make fried rice for my husband which he likes *very* much.
> > I
> > use brown Basmati rice, prawns, peas and sliced omelette. I use soya
> > sauce
> > in the mix.
> >
> > Now, tell me what I am doing wrong and how to make it better
> >
> > --
> > http;//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> If your husband likes it very much, don't mess with it! I like peas in
> fried
> rice but my daughter will just spend her time pulling them out. I didn't
> care for peas either when I was her age.
>
> -------
>
> Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it better
> or
> even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That would be like interfering with your marriage. This I cannot do. Not to
worry though, mostly my suggestion would be to kick it up a notch heatwise.


---------------------------

lol righteo )



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On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:13:10 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 3:41:46 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > That's popular here but we only get that in Korean restaurants. It appears to be simply roasted potatoes and mayo.
> >
> > http://www.tastyislandhawaii.com/ima..._fish_jun5.jpg
>
> Nice. Ours looks more like this:
>
> <http://essentialwanderings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/DSC_0108-1024x868.jpg>
>
> Peas and carrots (previously frozen, I imagine) are pretty standard
> inclusions, as are scallions.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Well I love that stuff too. I should have know what you were talking about when you said mushy - Japanese potato salad. I like it even better than American potato salad.

http://mamaloli.com/recipes/side-dis...-salad-recipe/

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:36:55 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 8:02:13 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:22:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > >Oops, when I ate the fried rice, I forgot to think about my aunt that
> > > >passed away. I'm thinking about her now...
> > >
> > > ---------------
> > >
> > > Good man I make fried rice for my husband which he likes *very* much.
> > > I
> > > use brown Basmati rice, prawns, peas and sliced omelette. I use soya
> > > sauce
> > > in the mix.
> > >
> > > Now, tell me what I am doing wrong and how to make it better
> > >
> > > --
> > > http;//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > If your husband likes it very much, don't mess with it! I like peas in
> > fried
> > rice but my daughter will just spend her time pulling them out. I didn't
> > care for peas either when I was her age.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it better
> > or
> > even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> > experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> That would be like interfering with your marriage. This I cannot do. Not to
> worry though, mostly my suggestion would be to kick it up a notch heatwise.
>
>
> ---------------------------
>
> lol righteo )
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I just thought of something. Add some MSG. With this single ingredient, your hubby will think he's died and gone to heaven. Add about a half a teaspoon of sugar too. If he likes that, add a teaspoon the next time. In this way shall your marriage be made even stronger.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 08:41:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > "Jeßus" wrote:
> > >
> > > Am I the only person who uses potato flour? I doesnt suit everything
> > > but its great for thickening and compliments things like roasts
> > > perfectly.
> >
> > Sounds good. I've never seen or heard of potato flour here.
>
> If you find a decent display of Bob's Red Mill products, you'll find
> it. People with type 2 diabetes use it as a resistant starch.

Careful, careful, the above is not quite right. People use potato *starch*
as a resistant starch, and they do NOT use potato *flour*. Further, they
drink the potato starch raw in water. If you heat it that apparently
changes the digestibility of the starch.

The theory behind this practice is that the human body will not digest the
starch but the bacteria in your gut will.

The science to support all of this is not great. I tried it and it made my
glucose worse not better, and it made me feel bad. Your mileage may vary,
but the bottom line is there is not good proof that you only feed desirable
bacteria in the gut by this method, and you could just as easily be feeding
bad bacteria.

--
W

"dsi1" wrote in message

> > > Good man I make fried rice for my husband which he likes *very*
> > > much.
> > > I
> > > use brown Basmati rice, prawns, peas and sliced omelette. I use soya
> > > sauce
> > > in the mix.
> > >
> > > Now, tell me what I am doing wrong and how to make it better
> > >
> > > --
> > > http;//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > If your husband likes it very much, don't mess with it! I like peas in
> > fried
> > rice but my daughter will just spend her time pulling them out. I didn't
> > care for peas either when I was her age.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it
> > better
> > or
> > even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> > experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> That would be like interfering with your marriage. This I cannot do. Not
> to
> worry though, mostly my suggestion would be to kick it up a notch
> heatwise.
>
>
> ---------------------------
>
> lol righteo )
>
>

I just thought of something. Add some MSG. With this single ingredient, your
hubby will think he's died and gone to heaven. Add about a half a teaspoon
of sugar too. If he likes that, add a teaspoon the next time. In this way
shall your marriage be made even stronger.

---------------

I do use Aromat (we have discussed this before) but never sugar. He does
have a sweet tooth ... so ... thanks MrD

Yesterday we picked apples and Loganberries so I made his favourite crumble.
He loves it very sweet so I have been mixing brown sugar with Splenda to
sweeten it. He is very happy and I feel easier.

Any more ideas, do share?



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"W" > wrote in message
...
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 08:41:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> > "Jeßus" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Am I the only person who uses potato flour? I doesnt suit everything
>> > > but its great for thickening and compliments things like roasts
>> > > perfectly.
>> >
>> > Sounds good. I've never seen or heard of potato flour here.
>>
>> If you find a decent display of Bob's Red Mill products, you'll find
>> it. People with type 2 diabetes use it as a resistant starch.
>
> Careful, careful, the above is not quite right. People use potato
> *starch*
> as a resistant starch, and they do NOT use potato *flour*. Further, they
> drink the potato starch raw in water. If you heat it that apparently
> changes the digestibility of the starch.
>
> The theory behind this practice is that the human body will not digest the
> starch but the bacteria in your gut will.
>
> The science to support all of this is not great. I tried it and it made
> my
> glucose worse not better, and it made me feel bad. Your mileage may
> vary,
> but the bottom line is there is not good proof that you only feed
> desirable
> bacteria in the gut by this method, and you could just as easily be
> feeding
> bad bacteria.
>
> --
> W

Yeah. The link she gave was one guy's experiment. He claimed to lower his
blood sugar from 80 to 74. Both of which are perfectly normal numbers
although the 74 is considered by some to be a hypo. At any rate, there is so
little difference between the numbers that they are well within the
percentage of error on a blood sugar meter.

If there is one thing I have learned about diabetes it is YMMV. I don't even
like to tell people what works for me because my body seems to be very
atypical in terms of meds, insulin and foods. When I have tried to eat what
the dieticians suggest, my blood sugar shoots through the roof. Examples
would be lentils and barley. Lentils, I can live without. Don't hate them
but they're not a favorite food. But even a small amount shoots my blood
sugar through the roof. I do love barley but it doesn't love me. I can eat
something with a little barley flour in it, such as Saltines although I
generally only eat them to try to settle my stomach. Or I can eat soup with
a very small amount of barley in it and it's fine. But if I ate barley like
I would like to, I would be spike city. I have a recipe for tomato and
barley soup. Sooo good but so bad for me.

But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling me
that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat will
go away and I'll have a flat belly. They even go on to warn me that if my
belly gets too flat, to back off on the pills. Ha! The pills go by a variety
of names. But in looking them up, they all seem to be sold by the same
company and they are just a simple probiotic. Not necessarily even a good
one as I think it only has one strain. The pills are very expensive and the
online reviews are mostly terrible. Few people reported a flat belly or any
other positive things after taking them. However, I suppose there is a
chance that a few people were cluelessly walking around out there, missing
that probiotic in their system and for them, they may have seemed like a
miracle.

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:21:25 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
>
> > > > Good man I make fried rice for my husband which he likes *very*
> > > > much.
> > > > I
> > > > use brown Basmati rice, prawns, peas and sliced omelette. I use soya
> > > > sauce
> > > > in the mix.
> > > >
> > > > Now, tell me what I am doing wrong and how to make it better
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http;//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> > >
> > > If your husband likes it very much, don't mess with it! I like peas in
> > > fried
> > > rice but my daughter will just spend her time pulling them out. I didn't
> > > care for peas either when I was her age.
> > >
> > > -------
> > >
> > > Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it
> > > better
> > > or
> > > even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> > > experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > That would be like interfering with your marriage. This I cannot do. Not
> > to
> > worry though, mostly my suggestion would be to kick it up a notch
> > heatwise.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > lol righteo )
> >
> >
>
> I just thought of something. Add some MSG. With this single ingredient, your
> hubby will think he's died and gone to heaven. Add about a half a teaspoon
> of sugar too. If he likes that, add a teaspoon the next time. In this way
> shall your marriage be made even stronger.
>
> ---------------
>
> I do use Aromat (we have discussed this before) but never sugar. He does
> have a sweet tooth ... so ... thanks MrD
>
> Yesterday we picked apples and Loganberries so I made his favourite crumble.
> He loves it very sweet so I have been mixing brown sugar with Splenda to
> sweeten it. He is very happy and I feel easier.
>
> Any more ideas, do share?
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Splenda makes a brown sugar blend that's pretty darn good. I don't know what the heck is in it but it's a great product. I don't know if it's sold in the UK though.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

> I do use Aromat (we have discussed this before) but never sugar. He does
> have a sweet tooth ... so ... thanks MrD
>
> Yesterday we picked apples and Loganberries so I made his favourite
> crumble.
> He loves it very sweet so I have been mixing brown sugar with Splenda to
> sweeten it. He is very happy and I feel easier.
>
> Any more ideas, do share?
>
>

Splenda makes a brown sugar blend that's pretty darn good. I don't know what
the heck is in it but it's a great product. I don't know if it's sold in the
UK though.

--------------------

Yes it is but I just use my own mix. Regular dark brown sugar and I mix in
Splenda. I like it better than the ready mixed.



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"dsi1" wrote in message

> Splenda makes a brown sugar blend that's pretty darn good. I don't
> know what the heck is in it but it's a great product.

That's a very strange statement, but the food industry loves people like
you.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling me
> that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
> belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat will
> go away and I'll have a flat belly.

So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
"the easy way." Magic pills, etc.

The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.

On 8/9/2016 3:35 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> Gary > Wrote in message:
>>
>> That said, for a long time I didn't know about cook the flour to
>> eliminate the raw taste. To make a flour sauce/gravy, I would add flour
>> to melted butter, stir then immediately add the milk or broth. I've
>> found that once adding flour to the butter, best to stir and cook just
>> that for about a minute before adding the liquid.
>>
>> Once I learned this, I've eliminated the "cream of" soups for
>> gravy/sauce.
>>
>
> Congrats Gary you made a roux.
>
>
A blonde roux. Cook & stir the flour a little longer for a brown roux.

Jill

On 8/7/2016 8:20 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Not with me as a kid. As I stated, I'm sure it wasn't seared
>> beforehand and it was just set in a bit of water along with cut up
>> potatoes and carrots that just fizzled in the beef water. The meat
>> was not tough, more like you could shred it like pulled pork. The
>> meat was flavorless though and the potatoes and carrots were a close
>> second in tasteless. Also...no onion soup mix either...that probably
>> would have helped.
>>
>> That's the "pot roast" that I grew up with. I'll never risk good beef
>> for that worthless meal again.
>
> Too much water was added Gary.
>
He won't try it, Carol. I use a crock pot (apologies to the OP - no
pressure cooker!) but have also cooked this slow on the stove-top.

Yeah, too much water and no sear on the beef makes all the difference.
The potatoes, carrots, onions should also be partially cooked. Best
when cooked in the oil for searing the beef.

He was complaining about his mother not being able to cook a roast with
flavour. It is so easily done!

I'm not sure what he pictures in his mind when he thinks of the perfect
pot roast. Perhaps he'll show us an image.

Jill

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:22:55 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling me
> > that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
> > belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat will
> > go away and I'll have a flat belly.
>
> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
>
> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.

I see it opposite. The problem for old folks is maintaining weight. We had to give my mother-in-law pot pill to increase her appetite. It worked fine but made her wacko. When she died, she weighted about 80 lbs. Of course, you're not going to find overweight people around the age of 90 because thy're all dead.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:


>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.

People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
*Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:34:56 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:22:55 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling me
>> > that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
>> > belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat will
>> > go away and I'll have a flat belly.
>>
>> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
>> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
>> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
>>
>> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>
>I see it opposite. The problem for old folks is maintaining weight.

You mean muscle mass.

In article >, says...
>
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>
> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>
> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit

They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling
>> me
>> that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
>> belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat
>> will
>> go away and I'll have a flat belly.
>
> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
>
> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.

They're not talking about weight loss. They're trying to frighten people
into thinking that they are full of stuff that needs to be gotten rid of.

And what you say about weight loss isn't necessarily true. There are just
far too many variables.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:22:55 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling
> > me
> > that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
> > belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat
> > will
> > go away and I'll have a flat belly.
>
> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
>
> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.

I see it opposite. The problem for old folks is maintaining weight. We had
to give my mother-in-law pot pill to increase her appetite. It worked fine
but made her wacko. When she died, she weighted about 80 lbs. Of course,
you're not going to find overweight people around the age of 90 because
thy're all dead.

---

I've seen it both ways. My dad who was always quite large became very thin
and frail in assisted living. Sadly, it was a case of just like I thought it
was. He was barely being fed. Had I not managed to sneak food to him, he
wouldn't have gotten much to eat at all. I won't get into the whole story
here as I'm sure I don't know the half of it but the woman who ran the place
is in jail now, probably for a very long time.

In his case, he'd had a series of small strokes and the end result in terms
of food was that nothing tasted good to him any more and he had no appetite.
He could go for days without eating and it never dawned on him that he
hadn't eaten. OTOH, if you placed certain foods in front of him in large
quantities, he eat to the point of sickening himself. He also developed a
lot of weird almost phobias when it came to food. Perhaps this was because
he had forgotten how to eat. For instance, he dunked a roll into ranch
dressing and then said it was terrible. So he began to think that foods
wouldn't taste good so he refused to eat them. Then again, some of what they
were forced to eat at that place could not have tasted good. Such as mashed
potatoes with BBQ sauce instead of gravy or mixed pasta because they only
had little bits and pieces left. The staff did do the best they could but
when the cupboard is empty... That was a very sad thing.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>
>>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>
> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit

Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do have
to watch your calories.

Cheri

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>
>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>
> They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.

Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling
>>> me
>>> that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
>>> belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat
>>> will
>>> go away and I'll have a flat belly.
>>
>> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
>> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
>> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
>>
>> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>
> They're not talking about weight loss. They're trying to frighten people
> into thinking that they are full of stuff that needs to be gotten rid of.
>
> And what you say about weight loss isn't necessarily true. There are just
> far too many variables.

Totally.

Cheri
>

On 8/9/2016 5:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>
>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>
> They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>

I've not seen that at all. Many want to enjoy sugar and fat laden foods
with a lot of flavor as the taste buds deteriorate.

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >>
> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> >
> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>
> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.

I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?

In article >, says...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio telling
> >>> me
> >>> that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that my
> >>> belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that bloat
> >>> will
> >>> go away and I'll have a flat belly.
> >>
> >> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a giant
> >> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
> >> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
> >>
> >> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >
> > They're not talking about weight loss. They're trying to frighten people
> > into thinking that they are full of stuff that needs to be gotten rid of.
> >
> > And what you say about weight loss isn't necessarily true. There are just
> > far too many variables.
>
> Totally.

For a healthy person, it's simple: less energy in and/or more energy
out.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/9/2016 5:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >>> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >>> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >>
> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> >
> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> >
>
> I've not seen that at all. Many want to enjoy sugar and fat laden foods
> with a lot of flavor as the taste buds deteriorate.

Fat yes, but I didn't think low carbers would eat a lot of sugar.

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:43:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>
>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>
>Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do have
>to watch your calories.

True. You could look at it that way if the end game is purely weight
loss. Not a good way to maintain muscle mass though, which many people
overlook. Naturally, combining exercise with a low carb diet leads to
quicker and greater weight loss plus better health.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >>
>> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >
>> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
>> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>>
>> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>
> I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?

Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a lark
or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
swirling around making you hungrier.

Cheri

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 8/9/2016 5:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >>> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >>> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >>
>> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >
>> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
>> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>> >
>>
>> I've not seen that at all. Many want to enjoy sugar and fat laden foods
>> with a lot of flavor as the taste buds deteriorate.
>
> Fat yes, but I didn't think low carbers would eat a lot of sugar.

Good fats, and no not a lot of sugar at all.

Cheri

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:43:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>>>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>>>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>>
>>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>
>>Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do
>>have
>>to watch your calories.
>
> True. You could look at it that way if the end game is purely weight
> loss. Not a good way to maintain muscle mass though, which many people
> overlook. Naturally, combining exercise with a low carb diet leads to
> quicker and greater weight loss plus better health.


There are a lot of people that are unable to excercise, but still can lose
weight fairly easily.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >> >>
> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> >> >
> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> >>
> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> >
> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>
> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a lark
> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> swirling around making you hungrier.

I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
minutes.

In article >, Ophelia
> wrote:

> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...

> Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it better or
> even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that

When I was in college, a friend took me over to his friend's apartment
for dinner. His friend was a Chinese student studying engineering. One
of the courses that was served was fried rice with a dry, spicy Chinese
ham sausage that his parents sent to him from China. It was super
hammy, interestingly different and delicious.
I can't get that sausage, so I cube ham into quarter inch pieces and
saute them until sort of crisp. I add those to fried rice instead of
prawns. Otherwise, I make fried rice pretty much like you do,
substituting thin sliced scallions for the peas at the end. Oh! I also
use long grained white rice which is ubiquitous and cheap where I live.
I met the Chinese gentleman once. He would never remember me, but I
remember him and his "best fried rice I ever ate".

leo

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:43:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>>>>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>>>>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>>>
>>>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>>
>>>Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do
>>>have
>>>to watch your calories.
>>
>> True. You could look at it that way if the end game is purely weight
>> loss. Not a good way to maintain muscle mass though, which many people
>> overlook. Naturally, combining exercise with a low carb diet leads to
>> quicker and greater weight loss plus better health.
>
>
> There are a lot of people that are unable to excercise, but still can lose
> weight fairly easily.

Develop a thyroid problem and you can lose or gain. But you won't
necessarily go the way you want to.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>>
>>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>
>> They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
>> That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>
> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.

True but quite a few people do think that way.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >>
>> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >
>> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
>> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>>
>> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>
> I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?

Were you peeking through our window and watching my husband eating dinner?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > In article >, says...
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>> >>
>>> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>> >
>>> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
>>> > diet.
>>> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>>>
>>> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>>
>> I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
>> plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>
> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
> lark or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> swirling around making you hungrier.

Why would carbs make you hungrier? A potato is very filling to me. So is
oatmeal or beans. I can't eat more than a few bites of meat of any kind but
that certainly isn't filling for me at all.

But I can't tell you how many people I know who did not bother to read some
diet book beyond the first few pages and think that low carbing means they
can eat all of the fat, meat and cheese that they want. Of course they never
actually lose weight and never stick with the diet either. These are also
the ones who buy those snack and meal replacement bars touting the name of
whatever diet plan they think they are following.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > In article >, says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's
>> >> >> >no
>> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >> >
>> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
>> >> > diet.
>> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>> >>
>> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>> >
>> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
>> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>
>> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
>> lark
>> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>> swirling around making you hungrier.
>
> I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> minutes.

Me too but then I also know that I don't crave carbs in general. I remember
some book that was out in the 80's. Had a test in it to see if you were a
carb addict. I was not. But my mom was and pretty much everyone else that I
showed the book to was as well.

I am a picky eater. I might attempt to eat an Oreo cookie if I were
literally starving to death. Not sure I could actually accomplish the task.
Last time I did try to eat one, I had to spit it out and rinse my mouth out.
And yet... That was one food that the book specifically mentioned.
Apparently quite a few people would be unable to resist them if a plate of
them were set near them and they were left alone with them for 10 minutes.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Gary" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> But on the bacteria front... I've been hearing ads on the radio
>> >>> telling
>> >>> me
>> >>> that I really might not be fat. Gee... I like that! They tell me that
>> >>> my
>> >>> belly might just be bloat and if I take their magical pills, that
>> >>> bloat
>> >>> will
>> >>> go away and I'll have a flat belly.
>> >>
>> >> So many older people (especially) struggle with weight, there's a
>> >> giant
>> >> market of companies preying on people who are desperate to lose weight
>> >> "the easy way." Magic pills, etc.
>> >>
>> >> The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >> metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >> easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >
>> > They're not talking about weight loss. They're trying to frighten
>> > people
>> > into thinking that they are full of stuff that needs to be gotten rid
>> > of.
>> >
>> > And what you say about weight loss isn't necessarily true. There are
>> > just
>> > far too many variables.
>>
>> Totally.
>
> For a healthy person, it's simple: less energy in and/or more energy
> out.

But most people who are overweight do have some underlying medical reason
that is causing them to be overweight. They just might not know that they
have a medical problem. There are quite a few people out there who never see
a Dr. unless they are in so much pain or are so ill that they can't
function.