"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > In article >, says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's
>> >> >> >no
>> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >> >
>> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
>> >> > diet.
>> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>> >>
>> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>> >
>> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
>> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>
>> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
>> lark
>> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>> swirling around making you hungrier.
>
> I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> minutes.

OK.

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > In article >, says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>>> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's
>>>> >> >no
>>>> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>>> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>>> >
>>>> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
>>>> > diet.
>>>> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>>>
>>> I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
>>> plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>
>> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
>> lark or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>> swirling around making you hungrier.
>
> Why would carbs make you hungrier? A potato is very filling to me. So is
> oatmeal or beans. I can't eat more than a few bites of meat of any kind
> but that certainly isn't filling for me at all.

OK.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> T...
> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's
> >> >> >> >no
> >> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> >> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
> >> >> > diet.
> >> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> >> >>
> >> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> >> >
> >> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> >> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
> >>
> >> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> >> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
> >> lark
> >> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> >> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> >> swirling around making you hungrier.
> >
> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> > minutes.
>
> OK.

Wonderful!

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>
>>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>
> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit

Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do have
to watch your calories.
--------------------

That's true. If I want to lose weight I don't change my activities, but I
do count the calories.


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"Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
...

In article >, Ophelia
> wrote:

> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...

> Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it better
> or
> even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that

When I was in college, a friend took me over to his friend's apartment
for dinner. His friend was a Chinese student studying engineering. One
of the courses that was served was fried rice with a dry, spicy Chinese
ham sausage that his parents sent to him from China. It was super
hammy, interestingly different and delicious.
I can't get that sausage, so I cube ham into quarter inch pieces and
saute them until sort of crisp. I add those to fried rice instead of
prawns. Otherwise, I make fried rice pretty much like you do,
substituting thin sliced scallions for the peas at the end. Oh! I also
use long grained white rice which is ubiquitous and cheap where I live.
I met the Chinese gentleman once. He would never remember me, but I
remember him and his "best fried rice I ever ate".

----------------------------------

Thanks very much, Leo That is a good idea



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On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:44:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >
> > People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> > *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>
> Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do have
> to watch your calories.
>
> Cheri

Too true. I've lost a little more than 70 pounds by reducing my intake
without deliberately increasing my activity. I've just about reached
the point of diminishing returns on that, so this fall I'll have to try
again to find some exercise that I can stomach. It's just so damned
boring.

Carbs were certainly the easiest place to cut. I've never eaten much
meat; there's no point in cutting vegetables. With fewer "white" carbs,
there's not much for fat to stick to, so I get a double advantage there.
I still eat carbs, but just a lot less of them, and swap in complex
carbs for simple ones whenever I can. I feel a sense of satiety after
meals and no sense of deprivation, so it's a win-win.

IMHO, the real trick is to not go on crash diets. My husband, who
lost 150 pounds on an extremely calorie-restricted diet, has gained
some of it back, while I'm still losing a pound or two a month.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:06:23 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, says...
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> > >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> > >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> > >>
> > >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> > >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> > >
> > > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> > > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> >
> > Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>
> I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?

Maybe you should imagine someone with 150 grams of steak and
the rest of the plate filled with vegetables.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:06:23 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > In article >, says...
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> > > >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> > > >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> > > >>
> > > >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> > > >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> > > >
> > > > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> > > > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> > >
> > > Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> >
> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>
> Maybe you should imagine someone with 150 grams of steak and
> the rest of the plate filled with vegetables.

Maybe if one doesn't exercise at all.

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> T...
> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's
> >> >> >> >no
> >> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> >> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
> >> >> > diet.
> >> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> >> >>
> >> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> >> >
> >> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> >> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
> >>
> >> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> >> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
> >> lark
> >> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> >> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> >> swirling around making you hungrier.
> >
> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> > minutes.
>
> Me too but then I also know that I don't crave carbs in general.

No wonder, given the amount of carbs you eat. It astonishes me what
crap you eat and drink despite being diabetic.



Janet UK

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:44:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> > "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> > >>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> > >>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> > >
> > > People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> > > *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> >
> > Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do have
> > to watch your calories.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Too true. I've lost a little more than 70 pounds by reducing my intake
> without deliberately increasing my activity. I've just about reached
> the point of diminishing returns on that, so this fall I'll have to try
> again to find some exercise that I can stomach. It's just so damned
> boring.
>
> Carbs were certainly the easiest place to cut. I've never eaten much
> meat; there's no point in cutting vegetables. With fewer "white" carbs,
> there's not much for fat to stick to, so I get a double advantage there.
> I still eat carbs, but just a lot less of them, and swap in complex
> carbs for simple ones whenever I can. I feel a sense of satiety after
> meals and no sense of deprivation, so it's a win-win.
>
> IMHO, the real trick is to not go on crash diets. My husband, who
> lost 150 pounds on an extremely calorie-restricted diet, has gained
> some of it back, while I'm still losing a pound or two a month.

Very well said, Cindy. You *can* lose without more activity...just cut
down on calories but to speed it up, the exercise really helps. Again
though weight loss seems to take forever and the closer you get to your
ideal weight, the slower the loss goes.

So many companies prey on people trying to lose weight by offering magic
pills, etc. It's a huge market.

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:01:34 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
>
> > Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it better or
> > even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> > experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
>
> When I was in college, a friend took me over to his friend's apartment
> for dinner. His friend was a Chinese student studying engineering. One
> of the courses that was served was fried rice with a dry, spicy Chinese
> ham sausage that his parents sent to him from China. It was super
> hammy, interestingly different and delicious.
> I can't get that sausage, so I cube ham into quarter inch pieces and
> saute them until sort of crisp. I add those to fried rice instead of
> prawns. Otherwise, I make fried rice pretty much like you do,
> substituting thin sliced scallions for the peas at the end. Oh! I also
> use long grained white rice which is ubiquitous and cheap where I live.
> I met the Chinese gentleman once. He would never remember me, but I
> remember him and his "best fried rice I ever ate".
>
> leo

The sausage was probably lup cheong AKA, Chinese sausage. It is used to make fried rice but these days, on this rock, the favorite fried rice is kim chee fried rice. It might be too spicy for the mainland though.

https://steamykitchen.com/68-secrets...ried-rice.html

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what he pictures in his mind when he thinks of the perfect
> pot roast. Perhaps he'll show us an image.

No image, Jill. As I said...there *IS NO* perfect pot roast.
That dish is a total waste of beef and vegetables, imo.

Make your yummy pot roast all you want. It won't happen here.
I'll cut that roast into cheap chewey steaks and cook the
vegetables better too.

Cheri wrote:

> There are a lot of people that are unable to excercise, but still can lose
> weight fairly easily.


Yep, they are called "young"...


--
Best
Greg

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:01:34 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
>
> > Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it
> > better or
> > even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> > experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
>
> When I was in college, a friend took me over to his friend's apartment
> for dinner. His friend was a Chinese student studying engineering. One
> of the courses that was served was fried rice with a dry, spicy Chinese
> ham sausage that his parents sent to him from China. It was super
> hammy, interestingly different and delicious.
> I can't get that sausage, so I cube ham into quarter inch pieces and
> saute them until sort of crisp. I add those to fried rice instead of
> prawns. Otherwise, I make fried rice pretty much like you do,
> substituting thin sliced scallions for the peas at the end. Oh! I also
> use long grained white rice which is ubiquitous and cheap where I live.
> I met the Chinese gentleman once. He would never remember me, but I
> remember him and his "best fried rice I ever ate".
>
> leo

The sausage was probably lup cheong AKA, Chinese sausage. It is used to make
fried rice but these days, on this rock, the favorite fried rice is kim chee
fried rice. It might be too spicy for the mainland though.

https://steamykitchen.com/68-secrets...ried-rice.html

---------------------------

If you think it is too spicy for some, there will be no hope for us



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On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 4:39:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:01:34 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > In article >, Ophelia
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> >
> > > Fair enough I just thought you might have some ideas to make it
> > > better or
> > > even something new! I am always open to suggestions and I love to
> > > experiment ... unless it is spicy of course, but you knew that
> >
> > When I was in college, a friend took me over to his friend's apartment
> > for dinner. His friend was a Chinese student studying engineering. One
> > of the courses that was served was fried rice with a dry, spicy Chinese
> > ham sausage that his parents sent to him from China. It was super
> > hammy, interestingly different and delicious.
> > I can't get that sausage, so I cube ham into quarter inch pieces and
> > saute them until sort of crisp. I add those to fried rice instead of
> > prawns. Otherwise, I make fried rice pretty much like you do,
> > substituting thin sliced scallions for the peas at the end. Oh! I also
> > use long grained white rice which is ubiquitous and cheap where I live.
> > I met the Chinese gentleman once. He would never remember me, but I
> > remember him and his "best fried rice I ever ate".
> >
> > leo
>
> The sausage was probably lup cheong AKA, Chinese sausage. It is used to make
> fried rice but these days, on this rock, the favorite fried rice is kim chee
> fried rice. It might be too spicy for the mainland though.
>
> https://steamykitchen.com/68-secrets...ried-rice.html
>
> ---------------------------
>
> If you think it is too spicy for some, there will be no hope for us
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Some of this stuff is too hot for me so you're probably right. My daughter's boyfriend makes some killer kim chee fried rice. Unfortunately it's only at the restaurants he works at.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:44:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> >>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> >>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> >
> > People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> > *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>
> Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do
> have
> to watch your calories.
>
> Cheri

Too true. I've lost a little more than 70 pounds by reducing my intake
without deliberately increasing my activity. I've just about reached
the point of diminishing returns on that, so this fall I'll have to try
again to find some exercise that I can stomach. It's just so damned
boring.

Carbs were certainly the easiest place to cut. I've never eaten much
meat; there's no point in cutting vegetables. With fewer "white" carbs,
there's not much for fat to stick to, so I get a double advantage there.
I still eat carbs, but just a lot less of them, and swap in complex
carbs for simple ones whenever I can. I feel a sense of satiety after
meals and no sense of deprivation, so it's a win-win.
=======

That is a sensible low carb way of eating, can do for a lifetime without
feeling deprived all of the time, but people seem to think that people are
eating 3 steaks, a whole roast, a ham etc. all at one sitting. LOL Congrats
on the weight loss!!!

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:44:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> > "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> > >>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> > >>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> > >
>> > > People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> > > *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >
>> > Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do
>> > have
>> > to watch your calories.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>>
>> Too true. I've lost a little more than 70 pounds by reducing my intake
>> without deliberately increasing my activity. I've just about reached
>> the point of diminishing returns on that, so this fall I'll have to try
>> again to find some exercise that I can stomach. It's just so damned
>> boring.
>>
>> Carbs were certainly the easiest place to cut. I've never eaten much
>> meat; there's no point in cutting vegetables. With fewer "white" carbs,
>> there's not much for fat to stick to, so I get a double advantage there.
>> I still eat carbs, but just a lot less of them, and swap in complex
>> carbs for simple ones whenever I can. I feel a sense of satiety after
>> meals and no sense of deprivation, so it's a win-win.
>>
>> IMHO, the real trick is to not go on crash diets. My husband, who
>> lost 150 pounds on an extremely calorie-restricted diet, has gained
>> some of it back, while I'm still losing a pound or two a month.
>
> Very well said, Cindy. You *can* lose without more activity...just cut
> down on calories but to speed it up, the exercise really helps. Again
> though weight loss seems to take forever and the closer you get to your
> ideal weight, the slower the loss goes.
>
> So many companies prey on people trying to lose weight by offering magic
> pills, etc. It's a huge market.

Which is on the people who fall for it, not the companies.

Cheri

"The Greatest!" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri wrote:
>
>> There are a lot of people that are unable to excercise, but still can
>> lose
>> weight fairly easily.
>
>
> Yep, they are called "young"...
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

Not true, though the young do lose faster, older folks who are unable to
excercise still can lose weight fairly easily though.

Cheri

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > T...
> > > In article >, says...
> > >>
> > >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > In article >, says...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
> > >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
> > >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
> > >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
> > >> >
> > >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb diet.
> > >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
> > >>
> > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> > >
> > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
> >
> > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a lark
> > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> > swirling around making you hungrier.
>
> I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> minutes.

Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?

I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
crash.

Cindy Hamilton

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> T...
>> >> > In article >,
>> >> > says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > In article >,
>> >> >> > says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary >
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and
>> >> >> >> >your
>> >> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day.
>> >> >> >> >There's
>> >> >> >> >no
>> >> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
>> >> >> > diet.
>> >> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>> >> >
>> >> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
>> >> > their
>> >> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>> >>
>> >> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>> >> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
>> >> lark
>> >> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>> >> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>> >> swirling around making you hungrier.
>> >
>> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>> > minutes.
>>
>> Me too but then I also know that I don't crave carbs in general.
>
> No wonder, given the amount of carbs you eat. It astonishes me what
> crap you eat and drink despite being diabetic.

Oh really? What crap do I eat and drink?

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > T...
> > > > In article >, says...
> > > >>
> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> > > >
> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
> > >
> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a lark
> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
> >
> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> > minutes.
>
> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?

Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people want
to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you hungry...?

> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
> crash.

But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.

On 8/10/2016 2:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Oh really? What crap do I eat and drink?

Start with 12 cans of diet soda per day.

Jill

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:49:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> T...
>> >> > In article >, says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > In article >, says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's
>> >> >> >> >no
>> >> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> >> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low carb
>> >> >> > diet.
>> >> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>> >> >
>> >> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on their
>> >> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>> >>
>> >> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>> >> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as a
>> >> lark
>> >> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>> >> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>> >> swirling around making you hungrier.
>> >
>> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>> > minutes.
>>
>> Me too but then I also know that I don't crave carbs in general.
>
> No wonder, given the amount of carbs you eat. It astonishes me what
>crap you eat and drink despite being diabetic.

Is this bizarro world? Carbs make you hungry IME. I love rice and
pasta, but a few hours after a meal with either I'm hungry again.

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:17:13 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:43:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>>>>>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>>>>>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>>>
>>>> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>>> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>>
>>>Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do
>>>have
>>>to watch your calories.
>>
>> True. You could look at it that way if the end game is purely weight
>> loss. Not a good way to maintain muscle mass though, which many people
>> overlook. Naturally, combining exercise with a low carb diet leads to
>> quicker and greater weight loss plus better health.
>
>
>There are a lot of people that are unable to excercise, but still can lose
>weight fairly easily.

Sure, there are those who can't exercise and will still benefit from
that type of diet.

In article >, says...
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:49:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> > No wonder, given the amount of carbs you eat. It astonishes me what
> >crap you eat and drink despite being diabetic.
>
> Is this bizarro world? Carbs make you hungry IME. I love rice and
> pasta, but a few hours after a meal with either I'm hungry again.

Lol, y'all are trying to rationalise your silly diets by thinking back
to front.

On 8/10/2016 10:49 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:44:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >
>> > People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> > *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>
>> Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you
>> do have
>> to watch your calories.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Too true. I've lost a little more than 70 pounds by reducing my intake
> without deliberately increasing my activity. I've just about reached
> the point of diminishing returns on that, so this fall I'll have to try
> again to find some exercise that I can stomach. It's just so damned
> boring.
>
Try cycling.
You can easily burn 3-400 calories during a modest trip. I usually burn
2100+ but then I go on 3 hour rides.
Graham
When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the
human race. ~H.G. Wells

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > In article >, says...
>> > >
>> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> > > T...
>> > > > In article >,
>> > > > says...
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>> > > >
>> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
>> > > > their
>> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>> > >
>> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as
>> > > a lark
>> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
>> >
>> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>> > minutes.
>>
>> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
>> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?
>
> Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
> fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people want
> to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you hungry...?
>
>> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
>> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
>> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
>> crash.
>
> But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.

There is no difference in a piece of birthday cake or pasta, potato or rice
as far as blood sugar spikes go.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> > In article >, says...
> >> > >
> >> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> > > T...
> >> > > > In article >,
> >> > > > says...
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
> >> > > > their
> >> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
> >> > >
> >> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
> >> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as
> >> > > a lark
> >> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
> >> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
> >> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
> >> >
> >> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
> >> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
> >> > minutes.
> >>
> >> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
> >> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?
> >
> > Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
> > fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people want
> > to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you hungry...?
> >
> >> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
> >> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
> >> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
> >> crash.
> >
> > But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.
>
> There is no difference in a piece of birthday cake or pasta, potato or rice
> as far as blood sugar spikes go.

You're talking from a diabetic point of view. That's not relevant to me.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> > In article >,
>> >> > says...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> > > T...
>> >> > > > In article >,
>> >> > > > says...
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
>> >> > > > their
>> >> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and
>> >> > > I
>> >> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it
>> >> > > as
>> >> > > a lark
>> >> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers
>> >> > > are
>> >> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those
>> >> > > carbs
>> >> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>> >> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>> >> > minutes.
>> >>
>> >> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
>> >> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?
>> >
>> > Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
>> > fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people
>> > want
>> > to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you hungry...?
>> >
>> >> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
>> >> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
>> >> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
>> >> crash.
>> >
>> > But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.
>>
>> There is no difference in a piece of birthday cake or pasta, potato or
>> rice
>> as far as blood sugar spikes go.
>
> You're talking from a diabetic point of view. That's not relevant to me.\

No, I'm talking from any point of view. All of that causes blood sugar
spikes which increases hunger, but...I am done discussing it here, and we
are all free to eat any way we choose to.

Cheri

In article >, says...

> No, I'm talking from any point of view. All of that causes blood sugar
> spikes which increases hunger, but...I am done discussing it here, and we
> are all free to eat any way we choose to.

And what a riveting discussion it was.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/10/2016 2:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Oh really? What crap do I eat and drink?
>
> Start with 12 cans of diet soda per day.

And that is crap how? And bad for diabetics how? It's not.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:49:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> T...
>>> > In article >, says...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> >> T...
>>> >> > In article >,
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> >> >> ...
>>> >> >> > In article >,
>>> >> >> > says...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary >
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and
>>> >> >> >> >your
>>> >> >> >> >metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day.
>>> >> >> >> >There's
>>> >> >> >> >no
>>> >> >> >> >easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>>> >> >> >> *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > They also don't like the "eat less" bit, so they go on a low
>>> >> >> > carb
>>> >> >> > diet.
>>> >> >> > That way, they can continue to stuff themselves.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
>>> >> > their
>>> >> > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>> >>
>>> >> Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>>> >> actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as
>>> >> a
>>> >> lark
>>> >> or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>>> >> satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>>> >> swirling around making you hungrier.
>>> >
>>> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>>> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>>> > minutes.
>>>
>>> Me too but then I also know that I don't crave carbs in general.
>>
>> No wonder, given the amount of carbs you eat. It astonishes me what
>>crap you eat and drink despite being diabetic.
>
> Is this bizarro world? Carbs make you hungry IME. I love rice and
> pasta, but a few hours after a meal with either I'm hungry again.

Not me. I don't particularly love either and can no longer eat rice. When I
did eat it, I watched my portion size, just like I do any other carbs. Do
you eat those with some fat and protein?

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:49:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> > No wonder, given the amount of carbs you eat. It astonishes me what
>> >crap you eat and drink despite being diabetic.
>>
>> Is this bizarro world? Carbs make you hungry IME. I love rice and
>> pasta, but a few hours after a meal with either I'm hungry again.
>
> Lol, y'all are trying to rationalise your silly diets by thinking back
> to front.

It's like the Chinese people claiming that they're hungry soon after when
they eat American food. Then the American replying that they're hungry after
eating Chinese food. I am hungry after eating Chinese food but only because
I don't like it very much so I only eat a few bites.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what he pictures in his mind when he thinks of the perfect
>> pot roast. Perhaps he'll show us an image.
>
> No image, Jill. As I said...there *IS NO* perfect pot roast.
> That dish is a total waste of beef and vegetables, imo.
>
> Make your yummy pot roast all you want. It won't happen here.
> I'll cut that roast into cheap chewey steaks and cook the
> vegetables better too.

Dang! Pot roast is one of my husband's favorite foods. He has been known to
grab handfuls of it right from the fridge and eat it cold. I'll do the same
but not that much at one time. My pot roast is da bomb! It's one of the few
meats that I actually like.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:44:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:24:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>The only way to lose weight is to increase your activity (and your
>> >>metabolism) and eat less calories than you burn each day. There's no
>> >>easy way out and losing takes time and lots of discipline.
>> >
>> > People don't want to hear the simple truth Gary.
>> > *Especially* the 'increase your activity' bit
>>
>> Except you don't "have" to increase activity to lose weight, but you do
>> have
>> to watch your calories.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Too true. I've lost a little more than 70 pounds by reducing my intake
> without deliberately increasing my activity. I've just about reached
> the point of diminishing returns on that, so this fall I'll have to try
> again to find some exercise that I can stomach. It's just so damned
> boring.
>
> Carbs were certainly the easiest place to cut. I've never eaten much
> meat; there's no point in cutting vegetables. With fewer "white" carbs,
> there's not much for fat to stick to, so I get a double advantage there.
> I still eat carbs, but just a lot less of them, and swap in complex
> carbs for simple ones whenever I can. I feel a sense of satiety after
> meals and no sense of deprivation, so it's a win-win.
> =======
>
> That is a sensible low carb way of eating, can do for a lifetime without
> feeling deprived all of the time, but people seem to think that people are
> eating 3 steaks, a whole roast, a ham etc. all at one sitting. LOL
> Congrats on the weight loss!!!

Dangit! Are you spying on my husband too?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> > In article >, says...
>>> > >
>>> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> > > T...
>>> > > > In article >,
>>> > > > says...
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
>>> > > > their
>>> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>> > >
>>> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years, and I
>>> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it as
>>> > > a lark
>>> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers are
>>> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those carbs
>>> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
>>> >
>>> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>>> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>>> > minutes.
>>>
>>> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
>>> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?
>>
>> Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
>> fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people want
>> to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you hungry...?
>>
>>> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
>>> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
>>> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
>>> crash.
>>
>> But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.
>
> There is no difference in a piece of birthday cake or pasta, potato or
> rice as far as blood sugar spikes go.

There could be, depending on the amount of fat in it.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> T...
>>> > In article >,
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> > In article >,
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> >> > > T...
>>> >> > > > In article >,
>>> >> > > > says...
>>> >> > > >>
>>> >> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce on
>>> >> > > > their
>>> >> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years,
>>> >> > > and I
>>> >> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries it
>>> >> > > as
>>> >> > > a lark
>>> >> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers
>>> >> > > are
>>> >> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those
>>> >> > > carbs
>>> >> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out the
>>> >> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after 30
>>> >> > minutes.
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
>>> >> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?
>>> >
>>> > Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
>>> > fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people
>>> > want
>>> > to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you
>>> > hungry...?
>>> >
>>> >> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
>>> >> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
>>> >> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
>>> >> crash.
>>> >
>>> > But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.
>>>
>>> There is no difference in a piece of birthday cake or pasta, potato or
>>> rice
>>> as far as blood sugar spikes go.
>>
>> You're talking from a diabetic point of view. That's not relevant to me.\
>
> No, I'm talking from any point of view. All of that causes blood sugar
> spikes which increases hunger, but...I am done discussing it here, and we
> are all free to eat any way we choose to.

Well, I'm diabetic and carbs don't make me hungry. I ate two small rolls
(that I baked) at around 1:00 today. That's all I have eaten. It's now 7:37.
I am just barely starting to feel hungry.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>
>> No, I'm talking from any point of view. All of that causes blood sugar
>> spikes which increases hunger, but...I am done discussing it here, and we
>> are all free to eat any way we choose to.
>
> And what a riveting discussion it was.

Rivets have no carbs but they're high in minerals.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:04:14 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, says...
>
>> No, I'm talking from any point of view. All of that causes blood sugar
>> spikes which increases hunger, but...I am done discussing it here, and we
>> are all free to eat any way we choose to.
>
>And what a riveting discussion it was.

Over many years I've found for me that the best regimen is to eat all
I want but to also do real work each day, and not at a desk, what I
mean is farm work like clearing brush, digging up stumps, digging
boulders from the fields and then rolling then fifty feet into the
edge of the woods because at about 200 pounds without handles they are
too heavy to lift. I dug up and rolled three yesterday... whenever
there's a good dry spell the ground kinda shrinks and exposes rocks,
most are fairly small and pick out easily but some can be huge, I've
dug up some weighed as much as a volkswagon and struggled to prybar
them into the tractor's frontloader. Five years ago I removed one and
put it into the hedgerow directly in front of my barn, was near the
2,500 pound limit of my tractor, I call that rounded behemouth sf's
ass. LOL-LOL
Yes I do have a picture of sf's ass but I don't feel like looking for
it now. Actually my feral cats like to snooze in the sun on sf's
ass... to be honest I'd like to enjoy sf's hot ass too.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> T...
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:12 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> >> > In article >,
>>>> >> > says...
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> >> > > T...
>>>> >> > > > In article >,
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > says...
>>>> >> > > >>
>>>> >> > > >> Goes to show how ignorant you are about low carb diets.
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > I imagine someone with a kilo of steak and a kilo of lettuce
>>>> >> > > > on
>>>> >> > > > their
>>>> >> > > > plate, proudly saying they're low carbing. No?
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > Not anyone I know. I have low carbed for a whole lot of years,
>>>> >> > > and I
>>>> >> > > actually don't eat a lot. I imagine that if someone just tries
>>>> >> > > it as
>>>> >> > > a lark
>>>> >> > > or something, that might be the case, but long term low carbers
>>>> >> > > are
>>>> >> > > satisfied with quite a bit less since you don't have all those
>>>> >> > > carbs
>>>> >> > > swirling around making you hungrier.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I don't understand how carbs mnake you hungrier. If I leave out
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > bread from my bread and cheese breakfast, I'm hungry again after
>>>> >> > 30
>>>> >> > minutes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Are you talking squishy white bread, which is what many Americans
>>>> >> eat, or about real, whole-grain bread?
>>>> >
>>>> > Just real bread. Or potato, pasta, rice. Those seem to me things that
>>>> > fill you, not things that make you hungry. I understand that people
>>>> > want
>>>> > to limit their intake of them, but to say that they make you
>>>> > hungry...?
>>>> >
>>>> >> I know that if I have, say, a piece of birthday cake at work for
>>>> >> someone's celebration, I'm hangry and sleepy about 45 minutes
>>>> >> later. First the carbs spike your blood sugar, then comes the
>>>> >> crash.
>>>> >
>>>> > But that's mainly sugar, candy almost.
>>>>
>>>> There is no difference in a piece of birthday cake or pasta, potato or
>>>> rice
>>>> as far as blood sugar spikes go.
>>>
>>> You're talking from a diabetic point of view. That's not relevant to
>>> me.\
>>
>> No, I'm talking from any point of view. All of that causes blood sugar
>> spikes which increases hunger, but...I am done discussing it here, and we
>> are all free to eat any way we choose to.
>
> Well, I'm diabetic and carbs don't make me hungry. I ate two small rolls
> (that I baked) at around 1:00 today. That's all I have eaten. It's now
> 7:37. I am just barely starting to feel hungry.

Aren't you on medication and shooting insulin?

Cheri