On 2016-08-13 5:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I brought my own bag. The guy weighed the items I bought and put them
> in the bag. Even if I hadn't, he had bags available. I really have NO
> idea why the idea of items being put into bags is such a bone of
> contention.

I think it may be an issue for retailers because putting something in a
bag happens at the end of the transaction. Traditionally, cashiers and
sales clerks have taken the money and put things in a bag once they are
paid for. They tend to be suspicious of people walking around with
things that have not been cashed out and bagged.

On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:10:07 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-13 10:03 AM, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So do I - so many plastic bags wind up in trees or in the sea which is
>>> worse. I know people will always use them but at least only when it
>>> is very necessary.
>>
>> LOL I've never seen a plastic bag up in a tree.
>
>I find that hard to believe.

Of course he's seen a plastic bag in a tree. Who hasn't?

On 8/13/2016 6:14 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-13 5:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I brought my own bag. The guy weighed the items I bought and put them
>> in the bag. Even if I hadn't, he had bags available. I really have NO
>> idea why the idea of items being put into bags is such a bone of
>> contention.
>
> I think it may be an issue for retailers because putting something in a
> bag happens at the end of the transaction. Traditionally, cashiers and
> sales clerks have taken the money and put things in a bag once they are
> paid for. They tend to be suspicious of people walking around with
> things that have not been cashed out and bagged.
>
Who here is a retailer?

Ken got home without some of the items he paid for (per the receipt). I
contend if someone had been bagging the items he would not have been
ripped off in that manner.

Jill

> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:35:16 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2016-08-13 10:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/13/2016 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>> You've changed your story AGAIN - originally you said you bought 'an
>>>>>>> eggplant' - your memory must be failing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, she adjusts her stories to what suits her in the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill only buys from the vegetable stand because they *will* bag for
>>>>> her. ;-D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OMG I can't believe the nit picking over this. It was said to be a
>>>> little humorous about the bagging thread and now every word is being
>>>> scrutinized to determine what the meaning of "is" is.
>>>>
>>>> Most people go to the farmer's market and buy a few items and bag it.
>>>> Makes it easy to carry most things, but at RFC you have to conform to
>>>> strict standards of transport. Maybe Jill should wear cargo pants with
>>>> the big pockets.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think Jill was the issue her. It was someone else who was so
>>> upset
>>> about someone trying to put her purchase into a bag.
>>
>>I wonder if that person is concerned about all the shitty diapers in the
>>landfills?
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Yes, I am if you mean me. I used cloth diapers, so did my daughters
> and so are my granddaughters, off hand it was only my DIL who didn't.

Yes, well I don't see any big push to ban them from all the forward thinkers
that want plastic bags banned completelyt, wonder why that is? Wait, I know,
because so many of those same people use them several times a day.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:35:16 -0700, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> On 2016-08-13 10:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 8/13/2016 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>>>> Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In article >,
> >>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>> You've changed your story AGAIN - originally you said you bought 'an
> >>>>>>> eggplant' - your memory must be failing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, she adjusts her stories to what suits her in the discussion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jill only buys from the vegetable stand because they *will* bag for
> >>>>> her. ;-D
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> OMG I can't believe the nit picking over this. It was said to be a
> >>>> little humorous about the bagging thread and now every word is being
> >>>> scrutinized to determine what the meaning of "is" is.
> >>>>
> >>>> Most people go to the farmer's market and buy a few items and bag it.
> >>>> Makes it easy to carry most things, but at RFC you have to conform to
> >>>> strict standards of transport. Maybe Jill should wear cargo pants with
> >>>> the big pockets.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think Jill was the issue her. It was someone else who was so
> >>> upset
> >>> about someone trying to put her purchase into a bag.
> >>
> >>I wonder if that person is concerned about all the shitty diapers in the
> >>landfills?
> >>
> >>Cheri
> >
> > Yes, I am if you mean me. I used cloth diapers, so did my daughters
> > and so are my granddaughters, off hand it was only my DIL who didn't.
>
> Yes, well I don't see any big push to ban them from all the forward thinkers
> that want plastic bags banned completelyt, wonder why that is? Wait, I know,
> because so many of those same people use them several times a day.

I wonder if there's plastic in American honey.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:35:16 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>> On 2016-08-13 10:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>>> On 8/13/2016 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
>> >>>>> Bruce wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> In article >,
>> >>>>>> says...
>> >>>>>>> You've changed your story AGAIN - originally you said you bought
>> >>>>>>> 'an
>> >>>>>>> eggplant' - your memory must be failing.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Yes, she adjusts her stories to what suits her in the discussion.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jill only buys from the vegetable stand because they *will* bag for
>> >>>>> her. ;-D
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> OMG I can't believe the nit picking over this. It was said to be a
>> >>>> little humorous about the bagging thread and now every word is being
>> >>>> scrutinized to determine what the meaning of "is" is.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Most people go to the farmer's market and buy a few items and bag
>> >>>> it.
>> >>>> Makes it easy to carry most things, but at RFC you have to conform
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> strict standards of transport. Maybe Jill should wear cargo pants
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> the big pockets.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think Jill was the issue her. It was someone else who was so
>> >>> upset
>> >>> about someone trying to put her purchase into a bag.
>> >>
>> >>I wonder if that person is concerned about all the shitty diapers in
>> >>the
>> >>landfills?
>> >>
>> >>Cheri
>> >
>> > Yes, I am if you mean me. I used cloth diapers, so did my daughters
>> > and so are my granddaughters, off hand it was only my DIL who didn't.
>>
>> Yes, well I don't see any big push to ban them from all the forward
>> thinkers
>> that want plastic bags banned completelyt, wonder why that is? Wait, I
>> know,
>> because so many of those same people use them several times a day.
>
> I wonder if there's plastic in American honey.

I have no idea, the only honey we used in recent years was from my BIL who
was a beekeeper and processed his different honeys on site before putting
them in glass jars. We don't use honey anymore, but I never cared that much
for it in the first place.


Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:35:16 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>> On 2016-08-13 10:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >>>> On 8/13/2016 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> >>>>> Bruce wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> In article >,
> >> >>>>>> says...
> >> >>>>>>> You've changed your story AGAIN - originally you said you bought
> >> >>>>>>> 'an
> >> >>>>>>> eggplant' - your memory must be failing.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Yes, she adjusts her stories to what suits her in the discussion.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Jill only buys from the vegetable stand because they *will* bag for
> >> >>>>> her. ;-D
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> OMG I can't believe the nit picking over this. It was said to be a
> >> >>>> little humorous about the bagging thread and now every word is being
> >> >>>> scrutinized to determine what the meaning of "is" is.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Most people go to the farmer's market and buy a few items and bag
> >> >>>> it.
> >> >>>> Makes it easy to carry most things, but at RFC you have to conform
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> strict standards of transport. Maybe Jill should wear cargo pants
> >> >>>> with
> >> >>>> the big pockets.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I don't think Jill was the issue her. It was someone else who was so
> >> >>> upset
> >> >>> about someone trying to put her purchase into a bag.
> >> >>
> >> >>I wonder if that person is concerned about all the shitty diapers in
> >> >>the
> >> >>landfills?
> >> >>
> >> >>Cheri
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I am if you mean me. I used cloth diapers, so did my daughters
> >> > and so are my granddaughters, off hand it was only my DIL who didn't.
> >>
> >> Yes, well I don't see any big push to ban them from all the forward
> >> thinkers
> >> that want plastic bags banned completelyt, wonder why that is? Wait, I
> >> know,
> >> because so many of those same people use them several times a day.
> >
> > I wonder if there's plastic in American honey.
>
> I have no idea, the only honey we used in recent years was from my BIL who
> was a beekeeper and processed his different honeys on site before putting
> them in glass jars. We don't use honey anymore, but I never cared that much
> for it in the first place.

Apparently, there can be so much plastic in the environment that it ends
up in bees and in their honey.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20140326/swis...ul-plastic-tv-
report
(or: http://tinyurl.com/ogs96fq)

"Jeßus" wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >Gary wrote:
> >> LOL I've never seen a plastic bag up in a tree.
> >
> >I find that hard to believe.
>
> Of course he's seen a plastic bag in a tree. Who hasn't?

I haven't. None in trees, none blowing around like tumble weeds.
Sounds like Usain plastic bags all blow north into Canada.
You folks will have me looking for them now though.
If it's that bad, surely I'll spot one fairly soon. :-D

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/13/2016 8:09 AM, wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 07:59:24 -0400, Nancy Young
> > > wrote:
>
> >> This is my complaint about not bagging my own groceries, which
> >> I would be happy to do. I don't use 50 bags when 10 would do.
> >> The cashiers seems like they'd be happy to put one item per
> >> bag.
>
> > Same here Our cashiers do the bagging here as they go along but
> > they don't overdo the quantity fortunately. I would be inclined to
> > say something, or email the manager, if they did.
>
> I learned the hard way that an email to a store manager goes
> right to corporate. I wouldn't complain to someone's manager
> over something like that, either.
>
> > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
> > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
> > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
>
> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
> but they aren't flying around.

Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
common.

Janet UK

In article >, says...
>
> Lighten up, Ed. I thought it was obvious that I was joking her

Man up Gary, and spare us the little boy lost act.

Janet UK

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > Lighten up, Ed. I thought it was obvious that I was joking her
>
> Man up Gary, and spare us the little boy lost act.

Stick up your butt, Jan?
It's well known here that I like to tease occasionally.
It's not back pedaling as I've often been accused of.
Just like food tastes, sense of humor varies.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > wrote:
> > > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
> > > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
> > > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
> >
> > That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
> > but they aren't flying around.
>
> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
> common.

Not to mention, you UKers must be pigs, tossing bags out
everywhere in order to see:
"every tree had been decorated like Christmas trees with plastic bags"
LOL
I live one mile from the same ocean and it's windy often here.
No bags in trees crisis here. I'll be looking for them though.

On 8/14/2016 5:08 AM, Gary wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> LOL I've never seen a plastic bag up in a tree.
>>>
>>> I find that hard to believe.
>>
>> Of course he's seen a plastic bag in a tree. Who hasn't?
>
> I haven't. None in trees, none blowing around like tumble weeds.
> Sounds like Usain plastic bags all blow north into Canada.
> You folks will have me looking for them now though.
> If it's that bad, surely I'll spot one fairly soon. :-D

I'm sure I've seen one here or there. Just because it's likely,
but absolutely nothing like those pictures I saw. It is not
at all common to see plastic bags in trees where I live.

I remember someone had mylar balloons stuck in their tree.
That's it.

We're doing a Costco run today, I know one spot where I might
find bags in trees. Maybe. A little used highway entrance
that seems to miss the inmate cleaning routine.

nancy

On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

>> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>> but they aren't flying around.
>
> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
> common.

People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.

I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
you lived.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
>
> >> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
> >> but they aren't flying around.
> >
> > Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
> > common.
>
> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
> you lived.

I've yet to see bags in all the trees here. LMAO. Give it a rest
people. This is the silliest argument I can recall here on RFC. Then,
someone yesterday mentioned plastic in honey. oh man. Really? Are the
bees collecting plastic pollen from all the trees?

Could be true though. I have a plastic honey bear container in my
cabinet. More likely, that container is what's leeching plastic into
honey.

We are getting very silly here with the arguments and for once it
doesn't involve everyone's favorite...Julie.

Want to save the damn earth? sell your car and walk everywhere.

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

>> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>> but they aren't flying around.
>
> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
> common.

People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.

I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
you lived.

nancy

-----------------------------

I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple of
bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but even
before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)

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On 8/14/2016 9:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>
> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
> you lived.
>
> nancy
>
> -----------------------------
>
> I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple
> of bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but
> even before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)
>

Take car of your bags. They don't grow on trees ya know. Oh, maybe
they do!

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 8/14/2016 9:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>
> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
> you lived.
>
> nancy
>
> -----------------------------
>
> I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple
> of bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but
> even before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)
>

Take car of your bags. They don't grow on trees ya know. Oh, maybe
they do!

--------------------

Nahhh they cost 5p didn't I tell ya??? ;-)

I never use them anyway, I have cloth bags and always use them



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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Take car of your bags. They don't grow on trees ya know. Oh, maybe
> they do!

LOL Yeah. It's sounding to me lately that they DO grow on trees.
funny arguments this time. :-D

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
>> > > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
>> > > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
>> >
>> > That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>> > but they aren't flying around.
>>
>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>> common.
>
> Not to mention, you UKers must be pigs, tossing bags out
> everywhere in order to see:
> "every tree had been decorated like Christmas trees with plastic bags"
> LOL
> I live one mile from the same ocean and it's windy often here.
> No bags in trees crisis here. I'll be looking for them though.

I live across from a high school, so I do get some cups, wrappers etc. in my
yard...but have never seen plastic bags in trees, though I have seen toilet
paper in trees. ha ha

Cheri

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>
>>> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>>> but they aren't flying around.
>>
>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>> common.
>
> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
> you lived.
>
> nancy

Maybe they could ban those plastic water bottles that are thrown around too.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>>
>> >> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>> >> but they aren't flying around.
>> >
>> > Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>> > common.
>>
>> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
>> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
>> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>>
>> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
>> you lived.
>
> I've yet to see bags in all the trees here. LMAO. Give it a rest
> people. This is the silliest argument I can recall here on RFC. Then,
> someone yesterday mentioned plastic in honey. oh man. Really? Are the
> bees collecting plastic pollen from all the trees?
>
> Could be true though. I have a plastic honey bear container in my
> cabinet. More likely, that container is what's leeching plastic into
> honey.
>
> We are getting very silly here with the arguments and for once it
> doesn't involve everyone's favorite...Julie.
>
> Want to save the damn earth? sell your car and walk everywhere.

Yes, not many posts with Julie gone. LOL

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
>> > > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
>> > > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
>> >
>> > That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>> > but they aren't flying around.
>>
>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>> common.
>
> Not to mention, you UKers must be pigs, tossing bags out
> everywhere in order to see:
> "every tree had been decorated like Christmas trees with plastic bags"
> LOL
> I live one mile from the same ocean and it's windy often here.
> No bags in trees crisis here. I'll be looking for them though.

I live across from a high school, so I do get some cups, wrappers etc. in my
yard...but have never seen plastic bags in trees, though I have seen toilet
paper in trees. ha ha

--------------

lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used to
live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and I
never saw any mess after that.

I can't say I've ever seen toilet paper though .. maybe it was because I was
living in a shopping centre ... ;-)


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On 8/14/2016 9:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

>> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
>> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
>> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
>> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
>> you lived.

> I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple
> of bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but
> even before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)

I am happy to report, despite driving 15 whatever miles each way,
through busy areas and tracts of land that aren't maintained, fields
with trees, not one bag in a tree. Went a different way than we came
back. No bags.

nancy

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 8/14/2016 9:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

>> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
>> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
>> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
>> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
>> you lived.

> I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple
> of bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but
> even before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)

I am happy to report, despite driving 15 whatever miles each way,
through busy areas and tracts of land that aren't maintained, fields
with trees, not one bag in a tree. Went a different way than we came
back. No bags.

nancy

-----------------------------

I am very pleased to hear that)

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"Ophelia" wrote in message ...

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
>> > > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
>> > > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
>> >
>> > That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>> > but they aren't flying around.
>>
>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>> common.
>
> Not to mention, you UKers must be pigs, tossing bags out
> everywhere in order to see:
> "every tree had been decorated like Christmas trees with plastic bags"
> LOL
> I live one mile from the same ocean and it's windy often here.
> No bags in trees crisis here. I'll be looking for them though.

I live across from a high school, so I do get some cups, wrappers etc. in my
yard...but have never seen plastic bags in trees, though I have seen toilet
paper in trees. ha ha

--------------

lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used to
live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and I
never saw any mess after that.

I can't say I've ever seen toilet paper though .. maybe it was because I was
living in a shopping centre ... ;-)

Err apparently ...


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On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
> I never saw any mess after that.

For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
showing up as litter. So far, so good.

nancy

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
> I never saw any mess after that.

For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
showing up as litter. So far, so good.

nancy

------------------------------------

Excellent!! I know a retired chap who tell me he is working part time for
.... hmm it is either McD's or Burgerking, working as a groundsman! I think
he keeps the plants tidy and makes sure no mess.

I don't use them but I think it is an excellent idea.


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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>
>On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
>> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
>> I never saw any mess after that.
>
>For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
>town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
>but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
>showing up as litter. So far, so good.
>
>nancy
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Excellent!! I know a retired chap who tell me he is working part time for
>... hmm it is either McD's or Burgerking, working as a groundsman! I think
>he keeps the plants tidy and makes sure no mess.
>
>I don't use them but I think it is an excellent idea.

When we lived downtown we were pretty much the mid-way point between a
McDogs and a high school. I complained regularly, as did our
neighbours, to the principal but nothing came of it. So it's usually
clean around those joints but look eating distance away and there's
the junk. Now, around here, it is mostly coffee mugs, unfortunately
like the Keurig pods, they are not recylable.

wrote in message ...

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>
>On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
>> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
>> I never saw any mess after that.
>
>For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
>town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
>but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
>showing up as litter. So far, so good.
>
>nancy
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Excellent!! I know a retired chap who tell me he is working part time for
>... hmm it is either McD's or Burgerking, working as a groundsman! I
>think
>he keeps the plants tidy and makes sure no mess.
>
>I don't use them but I think it is an excellent idea.

When we lived downtown we were pretty much the mid-way point between a
McDogs and a high school. I complained regularly, as did our
neighbours, to the principal but nothing came of it. So it's usually
clean around those joints but look eating distance away and there's
the junk. Now, around here, it is mostly coffee mugs, unfortunately
like the Keurig pods, they are not recylable.

----------------

That is exactly how it used to be as I mentioned above. A word with the
school sorted that out. I don't know what they did but no mess.



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On 2016-08-14 12:10 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
>> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
>> I never saw any mess after that.
>
> For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
> town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
> but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
> showing up as litter. So far, so good.

No doubt that some here will disagree, but my personal observation is
that some fast food franchise packaging litter seems to be more of a
problem that others. Between the stuff I see on my lawn and the litter
I see when out cycling. McDonalds is one of the worst. I rarely see
litter from Harvey's, Wendy's, Burger King or other similar fast food
joints. Around here, hands down, the worst is Tim Hortons.


FWIW, the town of Niagara on the Lake would not let McDonalds or Tim
Hortons open in the downtown tourist area. They restricted them to the
edge of town. Curiously, they allowed Starbucks to open an outlet
downtown a couple years ago.

On 2016-08-14 12:28 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:

> When we lived downtown we were pretty much the mid-way point between a
> McDogs and a high school. I complained regularly, as did our
> neighbours, to the principal but nothing came of it. So it's usually
> clean around those joints but look eating distance away and there's
> the junk. Now, around here, it is mostly coffee mugs, unfortunately
> like the Keurig pods, they are not recylable.


I have been known to save some of that litter and when I get enough from
one joint and when I get enough and am passing one I will make a pass
through their parking lot and dump it.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
>>> > > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
>>> > > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
>>> >
>>> > That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>>> > but they aren't flying around.
>>>
>>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>>> common.
>>
>> Not to mention, you UKers must be pigs, tossing bags out
>> everywhere in order to see:
>> "every tree had been decorated like Christmas trees with plastic bags"
>> LOL
>> I live one mile from the same ocean and it's windy often here.
>> No bags in trees crisis here. I'll be looking for them though.
>
> I live across from a high school, so I do get some cups, wrappers etc. in
> my
> yard...but have never seen plastic bags in trees, though I have seen
> toilet
> paper in trees. ha ha
>
> --------------
>
> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used to
> live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and I
> never saw any mess after that.
>
> I can't say I've ever seen toilet paper though .. maybe it was because I
> was living in a shopping centre ... ;-)

LOL, and a fine shopping center no doubt. ;-) Someone toilet papered my
trees a few months ago, but it was low enough that I was able to reach it
and remove it.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> wrote in message ...
>
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
>>> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
>>> I never saw any mess after that.
>>
>>For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
>>town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
>>but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
>>showing up as litter. So far, so good.
>>
>>nancy
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Excellent!! I know a retired chap who tell me he is working part time for
>>... hmm it is either McD's or Burgerking, working as a groundsman! I
>>think
>>he keeps the plants tidy and makes sure no mess.
>>
>>I don't use them but I think it is an excellent idea.
>
> When we lived downtown we were pretty much the mid-way point between a
> McDogs and a high school. I complained regularly, as did our
> neighbours, to the principal but nothing came of it. So it's usually
> clean around those joints but look eating distance away and there's
> the junk. Now, around here, it is mostly coffee mugs, unfortunately
> like the Keurig pods, they are not recylable.
>
> ----------------
>
> That is exactly how it used to be as I mentioned above. A word with the
> school sorted that out. I don't know what they did but no mess.

I never contacted the school, but I have seen students out picking up trash
from the parking lot. They were actually cheerleaders on a Saturday, so
guess they got the message over there without me.

Cheri

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 10:28:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/14/2016 9:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
>> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
>> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>>
>> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
>> you lived.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple
>> of bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but
>> even before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)
>>
>
>Take car of your bags. They don't grow on trees ya know. Oh, maybe
>they do!

Baltimore orioles will weave plastic bags into their nests.

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > The last time I was in the UK I went by bus from Heathrow to
>>> > > Cirencester and it was as if every tree had been decorated like
>>> > > Christmas trees with plastic bags.
>>> >
>>> > That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>>> > but they aren't flying around.
>>>
>>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>>> common.
>>
>> Not to mention, you UKers must be pigs, tossing bags out
>> everywhere in order to see:
>> "every tree had been decorated like Christmas trees with plastic bags"
>> LOL
>> I live one mile from the same ocean and it's windy often here.
>> No bags in trees crisis here. I'll be looking for them though.
>
> I live across from a high school, so I do get some cups, wrappers etc. in
> my
> yard...but have never seen plastic bags in trees, though I have seen
> toilet
> paper in trees. ha ha
>
> --------------
>
> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used to
> live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and I
> never saw any mess after that.
>
> I can't say I've ever seen toilet paper though .. maybe it was because I
> was living in a shopping centre ... ;-)

LOL, and a fine shopping center no doubt. ;-) Someone toilet papered my
trees a few months ago, but it was low enough that I was able to reach it
and remove it.

Cheri

----------------------

Why on earth would they do that?? I have only ever seen that in
pictures)



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"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> wrote in message ...
>
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 8/14/2016 11:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> lol I used to see wrappers between the shop and the school where I used
>>> to live and it became a real mess. Someone complained to the school and
>>> I never saw any mess after that.
>>
>>For a long time, someone was trying to get a McDonald's into my
>>town, they kept getting shot down. Finally they got the go ahead
>>but No drivethru and they are in trouble if their packaging starts
>>showing up as litter. So far, so good.
>>
>>nancy
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Excellent!! I know a retired chap who tell me he is working part time for
>>... hmm it is either McD's or Burgerking, working as a groundsman! I
>>think
>>he keeps the plants tidy and makes sure no mess.
>>
>>I don't use them but I think it is an excellent idea.
>
> When we lived downtown we were pretty much the mid-way point between a
> McDogs and a high school. I complained regularly, as did our
> neighbours, to the principal but nothing came of it. So it's usually
> clean around those joints but look eating distance away and there's
> the junk. Now, around here, it is mostly coffee mugs, unfortunately
> like the Keurig pods, they are not recylable.
>
> ----------------
>
> That is exactly how it used to be as I mentioned above. A word with the
> school sorted that out. I don't know what they did but no mess.

I never contacted the school, but I have seen students out picking up trash
from the parking lot. They were actually cheerleaders on a Saturday, so
guess they got the message over there without me.

Cheri
--------------------------

Good. I never contacted the school either but it is obvious someone did



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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:33:51 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 8/14/2016 9:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>
>>> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
>>> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
>>> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>>
>>> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
>>> you lived.
>
>> I haven't seen any! It is a long time since I have seen even a couple
>> of bags blowing around but then they cost 5p each in our shops now, but
>> even before that I can't say I've seen bags in the trees)
>
>I am happy to report, despite driving 15 whatever miles each way,
>through busy areas and tracts of land that aren't maintained, fields
>with trees, not one bag in a tree. Went a different way than we came
>back. No bags.
>
>nancy

You won't see any when you're looking for them, but they're out there.
The bags re not in "all" the trees. They don't stay long either, UV
light breaks them down quickly. I usually see one or two in my
hedgerows right after garbage collection, they get caught by wild rose
thorns.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:18:11 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>
>>>> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
>>>> but they aren't flying around.
>>>
>>> Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
>>> common.
>>
>> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
>> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.
>> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>>
>> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
>> you lived.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Maybe they could ban those plastic water bottles that are thrown around too.
>
>Cheri

In NYS they have a 5¢ deposit, not many are tossed and if some are
there are people who subsist from collecting all sorts of deposit
bottles. Thing is plastic bottles don't survie long, UV light breaks
them down rather quickly... better than glass bottles... I can still
remember when parks, beaches, and roadways were littered with
shattered glass bottles, a lot of people were rushed to the ER with
gashed feet and most flat tires were due to broken glass bottles. I'm
very happy there are plastic bottles now, when I see any I pick them
up and cash them in with my own. Unfortunately there are still lots
of glass beer bottles.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/14/2016 5:26 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
>
> >> That's crazy. What's going on with that, we have plastic bags
> >> but they aren't flying around.
> >
> > Most of the British Isles are in the atlantic so windy weather is
> > common.
>
> People need to take care of where they put their bags, in
> general, if having them blown into the trees is a big problem.

I agree; but in some areas (not mine) the roadside rubbish collection
system results in plastic bin bags getting ripped and the contents
scattered.


> And maybe wherever this is could ban plastic bags.
>
> I'm sure you'd agree if there were bags in all the trees where
> you lived.

Plastic bags are no longer given away free by UK smkts.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...astic-carrier-
bags-why-were-introducing-the-charge/carrier-bags-why-theres-a-5p-charge

"The law requires large shops in England to charge 5p for all single-
use plastic carrier bags. Charging started on 5 October 2015.

We want to reduce the use of single-use plastic carrier bags, and the
litter they can cause, by encouraging people to reuse bags."

Janet UK