Great looking steaks on sale today for tomorrow's dinner... too bad my
brand new Weber isn't set up, it's been too darn hot or rainy to put
it together... I will pan fry these two beauties... I would've got
more but it would be a sin to freeze these:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2yo7uz8.jpg
Don't need any stinkin' resto... will have thick porterhouses with Red
Bliss home frys and a garden salad, tomatoes are in!

On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:21:03 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
<
> Great looking steaks on sale today for tomorrow's dinner... too bad my
> brand new Weber isn't set up, it's been too darn hot or rainy to put
> it together.
>
>
What size Weber did you get and any special features?

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
><
>> Great looking steaks on sale today for tomorrow's dinner... too bad my
>> brand new Weber isn't set up, it's been too darn hot or rainy to put
>> it together.
>>
>What size Weber did you get and any special features?

This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:13:29 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
> ><
> >> Great looking steaks on sale today for tomorrow's dinner... too bad my
> >> brand new Weber isn't set up, it's been too darn hot or rainy to put
> >> it together.
> >>
> >What size Weber did you get and any special features?
>
> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
>
>
That's a VERY nice grill! Are you going to connect to your house
propane/natural gas line or are you going with the propane tank for
these gas grills?

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:13:29 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>
>> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> ><
>> >> Great looking steaks on sale today for tomorrow's dinner... too bad my
>> >> brand new Weber isn't set up, it's been too darn hot or rainy to put
>> >> it together.
>> >>
>> >What size Weber did you get and any special features?
>>
>> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
>> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
>>
>>
>That's a VERY nice grill! Are you going to connect to your house
>propane/natural gas line or are you going with the propane tank for
>these gas grills?

It'll be connected to my 500 gallon propane house heating tank... the
line is already there from my last Weber that after 25 years finally
died... its steel frame rusted away, but then I never covered it...
this time I ordered the cover.

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 5:34:00 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:13:29 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >>
> >> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> ><
> >> >> Great looking steaks on sale today for tomorrow's dinner... too bad my
> >> >> brand new Weber isn't set up, it's been too darn hot or rainy to put
> >> >> it together.
> >> >>
> >> >What size Weber did you get and any special features?
> >>
> >> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
> >> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
> >> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
> >>
> >>
> >That's a VERY nice grill! Are you going to connect to your house
> >propane/natural gas line or are you going with the propane tank for
> >these gas grills?
>
> It'll be connected to my 500 gallon propane house heating tank... the
> line is already there from my last Weber that after 25 years finally
> died... its steel frame rusted away, but then I never covered it...
> this time I ordered the cover.

Sheldon. Do use the cover. My grill is going on 14 years old and it is still going strong. And you know we have lots of wet weather in the Pacific NW. I have been judiciously covering my grill between uses since I bought it....even in the Summer dry weather.

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> >>
> >That's a VERY nice grill! Are you going to connect to your house
> >propane/natural gas line or are you going with the propane tank for
> >these gas grills?
>
> It'll be connected to my 500 gallon propane house heating tank... the
> line is already there from my last Weber that after 25 years finally
> died... its steel frame rusted away, but then I never covered it...
> this time I ordered the cover.
>
>
Oh good, then you won't have to be lugging that small gas grill
type tank to wherever and having it refilled at the most inopportune
time. And by all means, do cover your grill when not in use.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:43:42 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >That's a VERY nice grill! Are you going to connect to your house
>> >propane/natural gas line or are you going with the propane tank for
>> >these gas grills?
>>
>> It'll be connected to my 500 gallon propane house heating tank... the
>> line is already there from my last Weber that after 25 years finally
>> died... its steel frame rusted away, but then I never covered it...
>> this time I ordered the cover.
>>
>>
>Oh good, then you won't have to be lugging that small gas grill
>type tank to wherever and having it refilled at the most inopportune
>time. And by all means, do cover your grill when not in use.

Where I lived previouslY I was connected to natural gas, here I've
always been connected to propane. I've moticed no difference between
cooking with either gas.

On 8/18/2016 9:16 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Where I lived previouslY I was connected to natural gas, here I've
> always been connected to propane. I've moticed no difference between
> cooking with either gas.
>
We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
natural gas.

On 8/18/2016 9:40 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/18/2016 9:16 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Where I lived previouslY I was connected to natural gas, here I've
>> always been connected to propane. I've moticed no difference between
>> cooking with either gas.
>>
> We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
> I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
> natural gas.


Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
same BTU.

You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
smoke.

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 8/18/2016 9:40 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
> > I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
> > natural gas.
>
>
> Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
> same BTU.
>
> You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
> produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
> smoke.
>
>
Why does propane have more moisture than natural gas? I cook, heat,
and heat water with natural gas. My only complaint is the kitchen
can get awfully hot in the summer and it doesn't help that my kitchen
faces west/southwest.

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:44:42 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > On 8/18/2016 9:40 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> >
> > > We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
> > > I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
> > > natural gas.
> >
> >
> > Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
> > same BTU.
> >
> > You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
> > produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
> > smoke.
> >
> >
> Why does propane have more moisture than natural gas? I cook, heat,
> and heat water with natural gas. My only complaint is the kitchen
> can get awfully hot in the summer and it doesn't help that my kitchen
> faces west/southwest.

Methane (natural gas) is CH4. Propane is C3H8. It has twice as many
hydrogens to combine with oxygen during combustion and form water.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:44:42 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/18/2016 9:40 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
> > > > I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
> > > > natural gas.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
> > > same BTU.
> > >
> > > You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
> > > produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
> > > smoke.
> > >
> > >
> > Why does propane have more moisture than natural gas? I cook, heat,
> > and heat water with natural gas. My only complaint is the kitchen
> > can get awfully hot in the summer and it doesn't help that my kitchen
> > faces west/southwest.
>
> Methane (natural gas) is CH4. Propane is C3H8. It has twice as many
> hydrogens to combine with oxygen during combustion and form water.

I've always suspected that.

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415

Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even than their previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't take too much getting used to.

http://www.richardfisher.com

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>itsjoan wrote:
>>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >S Viemeister wrote:
>> >
>> > > We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
>> > > I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
>> > > natural gas.
>> >
>> > Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
>> > same BTU.
>> >
>> > You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
>> > produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
>> > smoke.
>> >
>> Why does propane have more moisture than natural gas? I cook, heat,
>> and heat water with natural gas. My only complaint is the kitchen
>> can get awfully hot in the summer and it doesn't help that my kitchen
>> faces west/southwest.
>
>Methane (natural gas) is CH4. Propane is C3H8. It has twice as many
>hydrogens to combine with oxygen during combustion and form water.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

The only time I notice is when there's a power outage during winter
and I have my ventless propane heater on, then after about 24 hours I
see condensation on the windows. Otherwise I don't notice any
condensation from propane cooking, in fact with the oven on the
humidity in the house is lower. In mid winter when the temperature
drops well below zero I put on my ventless propane heater along with
the propane furnace, saves on fuel as the furnace doesn't run as
much... ventless heaters are 99% efficient as no heat is lost up a
chimney... and still no condensation, because then the house is more
evenly heated.

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
>> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
>
>Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even than their
>previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't take too
>much getting used to.

I only need to find the time to assmble it, there's a zillion parts.
The weather hasn't cooperated to takle the job, intense heat/humidity
and lots of thunder storms.

On 8/19/2016 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>>
>>> Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
>>> same BTU.
>>>
>>> You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
>>> produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
>>> smoke.
>>>
>>>
>> Why does propane have more moisture than natural gas? I cook, heat,
>> and heat water with natural gas. My only complaint is the kitchen
>> can get awfully hot in the summer and it doesn't help that my kitchen
>> faces west/southwest.
>
> Methane (natural gas) is CH4. Propane is C3H8. It has twice as many
> hydrogens to combine with oxygen during combustion and form water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Thank you. That is the simplest explanation I've ever seen. Burning gas
is an exothermic chemical reaction forming compounds with the release of
heat.

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:47:36 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:44:42 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 9:48:31 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/18/2016 9:40 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have natural gas in NJ, and propane in Scotland - the only difference
> > > > I've noticed, is that propane puts more moisture into the air, than does
> > > > natural gas.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes it does. Propane produces about double that of natural gas for the
> > > same BTU.
> > >
> > > You are very observant as most people don't even know that burning gas
> > > produces water. It is water vapor coming out of most smoke stacks, not
> > > smoke.
> > >
> > >
> > Why does propane have more moisture than natural gas? I cook, heat,
> > and heat water with natural gas. My only complaint is the kitchen
> > can get awfully hot in the summer and it doesn't help that my kitchen
> > faces west/southwest.
>
> Methane (natural gas) is CH4. Propane is C3H8. It has twice as many
> hydrogens to combine with oxygen during combustion and form water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

OTOH, you need to burn over 2X more methane to produce the same amount of heat as propane. Back when I was living at my parent's house, we needed some work done on our clothes dryer. The repair guy said our dryer was improperly jetted for propane instead of natural gas. He replaced the jet with a bigger one. The dryer worked a lot better although it sounded like a blowtorch in there.

My parent's gas kitchen pretty much sucked. The stove was too weak and the kitchen was stifling. That's how it goes in the tropics. The electric ranges I used after I left home performed better and didn't heat up the kitchen. You can't beat natural gas for economy though and if I was living up North, that would be my weapon of choice.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
> >> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
> >> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
> >
> >Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even than their
> >previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't take too
> >much getting used to.
>
> I only need to find the time to assmble it, there's a zillion parts.
> The weather hasn't cooperated to takle the job, intense heat/humidity
> and lots of thunder storms.

LOL Old ppl.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
> >> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
> >> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
> >
> >Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even than
> >their
> >previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't
> >take too
> >much getting used to.
>
> I only need to find the time to assmble it, there's a zillion parts.
> The weather hasn't cooperated to takle the job, intense heat/humidity
> and lots of thunder storms.

LOL Old ppl.

--------------------

If you are very lucky, you might be an old person too one day.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
>> >> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
>> >> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
>> >
>> >Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even
>> >than
>> >their
>> >previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't
>> >take too
>> >much getting used to.
>>
>> I only need to find the time to assmble it, there's a zillion parts.
>> The weather hasn't cooperated to takle the job, intense heat/humidity
>> and lots of thunder storms.
>
> LOL Old ppl.
>
> --------------------
>
> If you are very lucky, you might be an old person too one day.

He ain't no spring chicken as it is, so if he blinks.....

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
>> >> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
>> >> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
>> >
>> >Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even
>> >than
>> >their
>> >previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't
>> >take too
>> >much getting used to.
>>
>> I only need to find the time to assmble it, there's a zillion parts.
>> The weather hasn't cooperated to takle the job, intense heat/humidity
>> and lots of thunder storms.
>
> LOL Old ppl.
>
> --------------------
>
> If you are very lucky, you might be an old person too one day.

He ain't no spring chicken as it is, so if he blinks.....

Cheri

=============

He does rather seem to forget that ...


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Gary" wrote in message ...
> >
> > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:13:29 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> This one... I got it by trading in Visa points... right now still in
> >> >> parts sitting in my garage waiting for cooler/dryer weather:
> >> >> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weber-Gen...0001/202843415
> >> >
> >> >Same grill that I have. You'll love it. The heat is much more even
> >> >than
> >> >their
> >> >previous (silver) model and also can get much hotter. Hope it doesn't
> >> >take too
> >> >much getting used to.
> >>
> >> I only need to find the time to assmble it, there's a zillion parts.
> >> The weather hasn't cooperated to takle the job, intense heat/humidity
> >> and lots of thunder storms.
> >
> > LOL Old ppl.
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > If you are very lucky, you might be an old person too one day.
>
> He ain't no spring chicken as it is, so if he blinks.....

HEY! I'm younger than you. No bragging rights though. You've lasted
longer than me and that's a good thing.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:26:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:24:50 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:54:38 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>And they're the worst steak(s) cook in a pan. The bone keep the meat
>>>from contacting the hot surface of the pan. Which causes the steak to
>>>be overdone on the outside and underdone next to the bone. They
>>>really need to be cooked on the grill where you'll still have the same
>>>problem, but nearly as much as in a pan.
>>>
>>>But seeing as how Sheldon considers top round a mighty fine steak, I
>>>don't think he knows or cares how it cooks.
>>
>> Keep on dining at Taco Bell, dwarf.
>
>Pbbbt. I haven't been to Taco Bell since before they introduced those
>Doritos tacos - over 4.5 years ago. And the last time I WAS there in
>2011 I just got some sort of blue slushie drink thingy - no "food"
>(but I did steal some of their sauce packets).
>
>-sw

I probably shouldn't have said that, who am I to judge, I've never set
foot in a Taco Bell. In my entire life I've eaten a Big Mac w/Fries
once, I've eaten a roast beef sandwich at Roy Rogers once, one time at
Der Weinerschnitzel for a 19¢ tube steak, once a burger at Wendys, and
probably a half dozen times at Burger King back when they had an all
you can eat salad bar which legalized "Have It Your Way", all the
produce and condiments you could pile on made it worth it. That's the
extent of my fast food joint experience. I've no idea about the Taco
Bell menu. The closest I come to fast food is buying packaged cold
cuts which includes Hillshire and SPAM. Packaged Boar's Head
sopressata, pepperoni, genoa, and hard salami is in a special class of
its own that no other provisions entity on the planet can approach. I
think a fistful of Slimjims is way ahead of any fast food burger
joint.