In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 07:34:19 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
> says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 05:24:20 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>
> >> >LOL. My toner dries out before I get to use it up. So I print for free,
> >> >in a way. Use it or lose it.
> >>
> >> I presume you mean ink. Toner never dries out. It is already dry.
> >
> >Yes, that's true, I guess. Nevertheless my toner cartridge stops working
> >way before it can be empty. It must somehow have to do with its age.
>
> They have chips in them that make them stop long before they are empty. If
> you search the web, you can find how to trick them. Some you have to tape
> over a hole. On my Brother there is a key sequence you have to key in. Then
> you can continue to use it until it gets streaky. Then if you take it out
> and shake it sideways back and forth you can stretch it even more.
> Sometimes for what you print a few streaks are acceptable.
>
I used to print more in the past and I'd get the streakiness and shaking
would help a lot indeed. These days, I could probably do ten years with
a toner cartridge if they didn't play those tricks. Most things are
electronic now. I'll Google around when the current cartridge stops.

In article >, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
>
> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > In article >, cshenk1
> > @cox.net says...
> > >
> > > Bruce wants everyone to eat 100% GMO free and organic with cage
> > > free and grass fed tossed in.
> >
> > You say that as if it would be a bad thing.
>
> You act like that's all anyone is allowed to eat.

If people have to eat meat, it would be nice if they didn't eat the
industry stuff, where the animals are treated the worst. You clearly
love your pets. You should be able to understand.

> > > Meantime, he's proabably pigging out on battery chicken.
> >
> > I don't eat meat.
>
> LOL, so that means you can be as snooty smug as you want at those with
> a more normal diet.

I'm not being snooty smug. I'm just pointing out that people who buy
industry meat support animal cruelty.

> > If someone's so poor that they can only afford battery chicken and
> > similar, then I'll shut up.
>
> There are several here and I'll admit my budget doesn't stretch too far
> since I'm having to pay out of pocket for a kid in college. I could
> probably manage free range without that bill but in reality, we are low
> meat eaters and 50% of what we do eat in that protien line is seafoods.

If you don't eat much meat anyway, it wouldn't cost you a lot to replace
your little bit of industry meat with something more humane.

> Chicken here is normally whole and I get to **** off the dogs and cat
> because all 6 of us like dark meat best, so the dogs and cats get the
> breasts (pesky white meat, useful only for chicken salads).
>
> You on the other hand look set to place a battle if someone says they
> can't afford your version of meat when you say you are vegetarian and
> have no dog in that fight.

If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But I
doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
industry meat for financial reasons.

On 8/21/2016 8:00 PM, Bruce wrote:

>
> If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
> discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But I
> doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
> industry meat for financial reasons.
>

The local farmer's market has a guy selling free range chicken but I've
not tried it yer. Sells for $5 a pound. His pork is good, but it is
$10 a pound compared to less than half that for industrial meat.

On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 20:31:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>The local farmer's market has a guy selling free range chicken but I've
>not tried it yer. Sells for $5 a pound. His pork is good, but it is
>$10 a pound compared to less than half that for industrial meat.

ShopRite has 100% grass-fed beef and lamb from Australia. Reasonably
priced. One is labeled no hormones. The other is labeled no antibiotics. I
don't know if this means if the one with no hormones has antibiotics, and
the no antibiotics has hormones. But it appears so.

The beef: http://naturesreservebeef.com/

My problem with the beef is it is too lean. The one labeled 20% fat has
less than that.

I also want to reduce my consumption of beef (very acid forming in the
gut). Hence my trip to Whole Foods to check out the steam table offerings,
and my surprise at how much of a better deal the whole chickens were.

I have placed a large order for chicken and pork from:
https://www.texasgrassfedbeef.com/meat-store/products

It arrives on Thursday.

Don. http://paleodiet.com/definition.htm (e-mail link at page bottom).

On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 12:25:22 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 8/21/2016 8:31 AM, Don Wiss wrote:
>>
>> Quite nice and worth it. It was a little salty, but as I use no salt ever
>> in my own cooking, I find all outside food salty. Ranging from a little
>> salty: this chicken, Chipotle, Bare Burger, to horribly salty: any Latin
>> restaurant.

> You are probably right about Latin restos,
>which I suppose you mean Latin American.

Yep.

> There's an Argentinian one in a
>heritage building by the Bow River in Calgary and when I had lunch
>there, the guy next to me complained that his burger was only just
>edible because of the salt. You could see the cooks throwing salt on the
>food with great abandon.

Thanks for another data point. I've eaten recently in a Columbian, a Cuban,
and a Dominican restaurant. All way too salty. Maybe all the recipes from
that area of the world include a tablespoon of salt.

It's unfortunate. Latin American restaurants are easy for me to eat
gluten-free at.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
>>
>> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > In article >, cshenk1
>> > @cox.net says...
>> > >
>> > > Bruce wants everyone to eat 100% GMO free and organic with cage
>> > > free and grass fed tossed in.
>> >
>> > You say that as if it would be a bad thing.
>>
>> You act like that's all anyone is allowed to eat.
>
> If people have to eat meat, it would be nice if they didn't eat the
> industry stuff, where the animals are treated the worst. You clearly
> love your pets. You should be able to understand.
>
>> > > Meantime, he's proabably pigging out on battery chicken.
>> >
>> > I don't eat meat.
>>
>> LOL, so that means you can be as snooty smug as you want at those with
>> a more normal diet.
>
> I'm not being snooty smug. I'm just pointing out that people who buy
> industry meat support animal cruelty.
>
>> > If someone's so poor that they can only afford battery chicken and
>> > similar, then I'll shut up.
>>
>> There are several here and I'll admit my budget doesn't stretch too far
>> since I'm having to pay out of pocket for a kid in college. I could
>> probably manage free range without that bill but in reality, we are low
>> meat eaters and 50% of what we do eat in that protien line is seafoods.
>
> If you don't eat much meat anyway, it wouldn't cost you a lot to replace
> your little bit of industry meat with something more humane.
>
>> Chicken here is normally whole and I get to **** off the dogs and cat
>> because all 6 of us like dark meat best, so the dogs and cats get the
>> breasts (pesky white meat, useful only for chicken salads).
>>
>> You on the other hand look set to place a battle if someone says they
>> can't afford your version of meat when you say you are vegetarian and
>> have no dog in that fight.
>
> If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
> discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But I
> doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
> industry meat for financial reasons.

I'll go you one better, I doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup
who don't eat meat, so why not enjoy your way of eating and leave others to
theirs? I'm hapy to leave you to yours, but in truth I think your attitude
at times could be improved with a nice steak.

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, cshenk1
> > @cox.net says...
> >>
> >> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >> > In article >, cshenk1
> >> > @cox.net says...
> >> > >
> >> You on the other hand look set to place a battle if someone says
they
> >> can't afford your version of meat when you say you are vegetarian and
> >> have no dog in that fight.
> >
> > If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
> > discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But I
> > doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
> > industry meat for financial reasons.
>
> I'll go you one better, I doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup
> who don't eat meat, so why not enjoy your way of eating and leave others to
> theirs? I'm hapy to leave you to yours, but in truth I think your attitude
> at times could be improved with a nice steak.

Whereas your acerbic attitude would benefit from a bit less meat induced
aggression

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 8/21/2016 4:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> I wish we got coupons like the ones I read about here.
>
Tesco sometimes do email coupons.

--------------

Email? Missed those. I certainly haven't see the regular coupons in
newspapers etc that you seem to have there.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
> >
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:30:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > >> On 8/21/2016 7:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> > > >> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Millions of Americans never look at a newspaper (or the online
> > > >> > > equivalent).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I still prefer the printed media...real books, not ebooks and
> > > real >> > paper newspapers not online news as the only viewing.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For 12 years, I needed the newspapers too for ferret poopy
> > > papers. I >> > still subscribe though. I get to work early so I have
> > > some private >> > time. Nice peaceful morning time to look through
> > > the paper. >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> After 50 years I cancelled the paper. The quality had been
> > > slipping >> for a long time but finally reached my limit. In
> > > January, a couple >> more of the good columnists left, the price went
> > > up, and they wanted >> to charge to use their phone app in addition.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm surviving but they may not. Subscriptions are way down these
> > > >> days.
> > > >
> > > > I still get the paper 4 days a week. It more than pays for itself
> > > > from the coupons.
> > >
> > > The coupons are all available online.
> >
> > Online ones do not double here and cost you ink to print. My 75cent
> > 'whatever' becomes 1.50$ off and I dont have to spend 5cents printing
> > it.
>
> LOL. My toner dries out before I get to use it up. So I print for free,
> in a way. Use it or lose it.
> ------------
>
> I wish we got coupons like the ones I read about here.

We get discount coupons from supermarkets, based on how much we spend
there, but we buy most of our stuff somewhere else.
----------------

We get stuff from one supermarket err once a quarter I think, but you have
to be a member and use your card.

I haven't seen all the coupons in newspapers I read about here.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/21/2016 8:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >
> > If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
> > discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But I
> > doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
> > industry meat for financial reasons.
> >
>
> The local farmer's market has a guy selling free range chicken but I've
> not tried it yer. Sells for $5 a pound. His pork is good, but it is
> $10 a pound compared to less than half that for industrial meat.

That's cheaper than here. For those $5 or $10, 2 people have good
quality meat for dinner.

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > I wish we got coupons like the ones I read about here.
>
> We get discount coupons from supermarkets, based on how much we spend
> there, but we buy most of our stuff somewhere else.
> ----------------
>
> We get stuff from one supermarket err once a quarter I think, but you have
> to be a member and use your card.

Yes, same as here.

> I haven't seen all the coupons in newspapers I read about here.

Me neither.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, cshenk1
>> > @cox.net says...
>> >>
>> >> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>
>> >> > In article >, cshenk1
>> >> > @cox.net says...
>> >> > >
>> >> You on the other hand look set to place a battle if someone says
> they
>> >> can't afford your version of meat when you say you are vegetarian and
>> >> have no dog in that fight.
>> >
>> > If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
>> > discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But
>> > I
>> > doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
>> > industry meat for financial reasons.
>>
>> I'll go you one better, I doubt that there are many people in this
>> newsgroup
>> who don't eat meat, so why not enjoy your way of eating and leave others
>> to
>> theirs? I'm hapy to leave you to yours, but in truth I think your
>> attitude
>> at times could be improved with a nice steak.
>
> Whereas your acerbic attitude would benefit from a bit less meat induced
> aggression

Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking shots at
you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you have some
good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon or something?

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> T...
> >> > In article >, cshenk1
> >> > @cox.net says...
> >> >>
> >> >> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >>
> >> >> > In article >, cshenk1
> >> >> > @cox.net says...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> You on the other hand look set to place a battle if someone says
> > they
> >> >> can't afford your version of meat when you say you are vegetarian and
> >> >> have no dog in that fight.
> >> >
> >> > If someone can't afford free-range meat, that's the end of the
> >> > discussion, unless you're prepared to stop eating meat altogether. But
> >> > I
> >> > doubt that there are many people in this newsgroup who have to buy
> >> > industry meat for financial reasons.
> >>
> >> I'll go you one better, I doubt that there are many people in this
> >> newsgroup
> >> who don't eat meat, so why not enjoy your way of eating and leave others
> >> to
> >> theirs? I'm hapy to leave you to yours, but in truth I think your
> >> attitude
> >> at times could be improved with a nice steak.
> >
> > Whereas your acerbic attitude would benefit from a bit less meat induced
> > aggression
>
> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking shots at
> you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you have some
> good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon or something?

What's wrong with discussing ingredients in a cooking newsgroup? And you
always take shots at me for not eating meat, such as one post ago. Does
meat affect the memory?

On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 3:10:23 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:30:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > >> On 8/21/2016 7:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> > >> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Millions of Americans never look at a newspaper (or the online
> > >> > > equivalent).
> > >> >
> > >> > I still prefer the printed media...real books, not ebooks and
> > real >> > paper newspapers not online news as the only viewing.
> > >> >
> > >> > For 12 years, I needed the newspapers too for ferret poopy
> > papers. I >> > still subscribe though. I get to work early so I have
> > some private >> > time. Nice peaceful morning time to look through
> > the paper. >> >
> > >>
> > >> After 50 years I cancelled the paper. The quality had been
> > slipping >> for a long time but finally reached my limit. In
> > January, a couple >> more of the good columnists left, the price went
> > up, and they wanted >> to charge to use their phone app in addition.
> > >>
> > >> I'm surviving but they may not. Subscriptions are way down these
> > >> days.
> > >
> > > I still get the paper 4 days a week. It more than pays for itself
> > > from the coupons.
> >
> > The coupons are all available online.
>
> Online ones do not double here and cost you ink to print. My 75cent
> 'whatever' becomes 1.50$ off and I dont have to spend 5cents printing
> it.

I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
worth my time to look.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking shots
> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon or
> something?
>
> Cheri

Don't expect too much.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking shots
>> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
>> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon or
>> something?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Don't expect too much.
>
> Jill

Truly.

Cheri

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 03:29:05 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 3:10:23 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:30:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > >
>> > >> On 8/21/2016 7:21 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > >> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Millions of Americans never look at a newspaper (or the online
>> > >> > > equivalent).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I still prefer the printed media...real books, not ebooks and
>> > real >> > paper newspapers not online news as the only viewing.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > For 12 years, I needed the newspapers too for ferret poopy
>> > papers. I >> > still subscribe though. I get to work early so I have
>> > some private >> > time. Nice peaceful morning time to look through
>> > the paper. >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> After 50 years I cancelled the paper. The quality had been
>> > slipping >> for a long time but finally reached my limit. In
>> > January, a couple >> more of the good columnists left, the price went
>> > up, and they wanted >> to charge to use their phone app in addition.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm surviving but they may not. Subscriptions are way down these
>> > >> days.
>> > >
>> > > I still get the paper 4 days a week. It more than pays for itself
>> > > from the coupons.
>> >
>> > The coupons are all available online.
>>
>> Online ones do not double here and cost you ink to print. My 75cent
>> 'whatever' becomes 1.50$ off and I dont have to spend 5cents printing
>> it.
>
>I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
>worth my time to look.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

The only worthwhile coupons I use are for cat food and cat litter and
I get those via snail mail directly from the manufacturers. All the
other coupons I see are either for new junk food products or for
something I had tried that I wouldn't want again even were it free. I
do use some coupons from the BJs monthy that's snail mailed for being
a member. The bargains I find are from checking a couple of local
store's weekly circular on line... they arrive by email and only takes
me five minutes to scan through for the few items I'd buy.. even most
of their sale items are dreck I'd never buy. It does pay to phone the
companies whose products you use, if only to ask a question about
using a product, once you get on their mailing list decent coupns
arrive periodically; I get coupons for toiletries, cleaning products,
paper goods, and a few others... some even send gifts like ballpoint
pens and wall calendars with nice pictures.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
> worth my time to look.

I still get paper newspapers delivered 7 days a week. Only the Sunday
paper contains some food coupons these days and they aren't that good
either. I look thru them each sunday and toss most of them. Coupons
today are not so great like they used to be many years ago.

In article >, says...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking shots
> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon or
> >> something?
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Don't expect too much.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Truly.

Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> The only worthwhile coupons I use are for cat food and cat litter and
> I get those via snail mail directly from the manufacturers. All the
> other coupons I see are either for new junk food products or for
> something I had tried that I wouldn't want again even were it free. I
> do use some coupons from the BJs monthy that's snail mailed for being
> a member. The bargains I find are from checking a couple of local
> store's weekly circular on line... they arrive by email and only takes
> me five minutes to scan through for the few items I'd buy

We don't get coupons here, but smkt weekly circulars get delivered
along with the mail so I watch for the latest loss-leaders. Whenever
they offer a bargain reduction or BOGOF on storeable supplies we
regularly use, I bulk buy a hefty supply. (We have ample storage space).


Janet UK.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
>> >> shots
>> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
>> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
>> >> or
>> >> something?
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >
>> > Don't expect too much.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> Truly.
>
> Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute


Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
>> >> shots
>> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
>> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
>> >> or
>> >> something?
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >
>> > Don't expect too much.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> Truly.
>
> Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute


Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.

Cheri

--------------

Actually that doesn't sound like Bruce, unless I am mistaken



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In article >, says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
> >> >> shots
> >> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> >> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
> >> >> or
> >> >> something?
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheri
> >> >
> >> > Don't expect too much.
> >> >
> >> > Jill
> >>
> >> Truly.
> >
> > Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
>
>
> Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
> it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.

Shouldn't you be cooking some trailer trash food?

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:25:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
ET...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
>>> >> shots
>>> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
>>> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
>>> >> or
>>> >> something?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheri
>>> >
>>> > Don't expect too much.
>>> >
>>> > Jill
>>>
>>> Truly.
>>
>> Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
>
>
>Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
>it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.
>
>Cheri
>
>--------------
>
>Actually that doesn't sound like Bruce, unless I am mistaken

You don't read all his posts then, it's fairly typical. Look at the
things he has called me! I hasten to add, not that I care!

On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:25:56 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
>> >> >> shots
>> >> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
>> >> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> something?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheri
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't expect too much.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jill
>> >>
>> >> Truly.
>> >
>> > Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
>>
>>
>> Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
>> it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.
>
>Shouldn't you be cooking some trailer trash food?

See ? Hardly a nice post!

wrote in message ...

On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:25:56 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
>> >> >> shots
>> >> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a
>> >> >> melon
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> something?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheri
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't expect too much.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jill
>> >>
>> >> Truly.
>> >
>> > Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
>>
>>
>> Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
>> it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.
>
>Shouldn't you be cooking some trailer trash food?

See ? Hardly a nice post!

---------------------





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On Sunday, 21 August 2016 12:01:26 UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Don Wiss wrote:
> > >
> > > The Whole Foods is 0.8 miles from me. A
> > > quick bike ride, and exercise.
> >
> > Same distance from my regular grocery store. 0.8 miles and like you
> > I'll often do the bike ride. I can almost bike there as quick as I
> > can drive. As it's only 2 more blocks to the oceanfront, I'll often
> > ride a bit on the boardwalk first, then stop at the store on the way
> > home.
> >
> > Whole Foods is about 2 miles in the other direction but I've never
> > been there.
>
> I went there recently (whole foods) and was suprised that some things
> were significantly cheaper than local. The flour section is a notable
> one if you bake much.


I visit several here in Chicago, their prices vary by store. There is one near DePaul University in affluent Lincoln Park, it's a small store but their prices are actually not too bad, competitive even. It caters to a primarily college/academic crowd, so the offerings are tailored for that, lotsa convenience/carryout/snacks, etc...

There's another one in East Lakeview (by Wrigley Field), this is a larger one, always had a good and very reasonable cheese selection. When I worked adjacent I could get a small hunk of cheese, some bread, and a piece of fruit or a red bell pepper or a cuke for a lunch, and I was on a strict budget....

There's one in downtown Evanston, adjacent to Northwestern. Nice big store, but *nothing* is reasonable there, cheese is $$$, everything in fact seems marked up about 20% from the other two...

There's another one in Evanston, south of NWU campus, nearby the Trader Joe's I frequent. Since TJ's is sufficient for my needs, I've never stopped in, may do that on my way home tonight, as we've a break in the sopping hot weather, thus a good night for a bit of a refreshing stroll.

Meat/poultry/fish is sky - high at any WH, I'd go elsewhere for that, but I don't buy much anyways...

--
Best
Greg

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:25:56 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> T...
> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >>
> >> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
> >> >> >> shots
> >> >> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> >> >> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> something?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cheri
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Don't expect too much.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jill
> >> >>
> >> >> Truly.
> >> >
> >> > Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
> >>
> >>
> >> Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
> >> it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.
> >
> >Shouldn't you be cooking some trailer trash food?
>
> See ? Hardly a nice post!

You're a bit one sided here.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:25:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Cheri" wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> ET...
> >> In article >, says...
> >>>
> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
> >>> >> shots
> >>> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> >>> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
> >>> >> or
> >>> >> something?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheri
> >>> >
> >>> > Don't expect too much.
> >>> >
> >>> > Jill
> >>>
> >>> Truly.
> >>
> >> Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
> >
> >
> >Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
> >it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.
> >
> >Cheri
> >
> >--------------
> >
> >Actually that doesn't sound like Bruce, unless I am mistaken
>
> You don't read all his posts then, it's fairly typical. Look at the
> things he has called me! I hasten to add, not that I care!

I don't remember. Was it bad?

On Sunday, 21 August 2016 13:16:48 UTC-5, graham wrote:
> On 8/21/2016 7:42 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-08-21 9:33 AM, Gary wrote:
> >
> >>> I'm surviving but they may not. Subscriptions are way down these days.
> >>
> >> Printed newspapers won't last much longer, sadly. I always renew my
> >> subscription for 13 months only (3 months). The price for this has
> >> doubled in the past few years. I'll send in a renewal this week...13
> >> weeks (plus the weekly tv guide that's extra) for $66.30 + tip for the
> >> carrier.
> >
> > If you think newspaper subscriptions are down you should take a look at
> > magazine stores. Most magazine vendors have a much reduced stock.
>
> Not surprising. Magazines used to be full of specialist articles etc.
> now they are nothing more than advertising delivery systems.


There are a few "hobby" - type mags I buy, e.g. Collectible Automobile, Special Interest Autos, Hemmings, Airways, but I'm gobsmacked by the price of a copy of Time, etc...six bucks, REALLY...!!!???

Big cities were once rife with newsstands, those have entirely disappeared pretty much. There may be one in downtown Chicago. There is a place called IIRC "City Newsstand" here in Chicago and Evanston. The owner said they do a fair business, they carry tons of specialist/hobby/imported mags...

I notice that on my daily commutes (on crowded Chicago L - or elevated - train) almost no one ever has a magazine. Many books, e-books, some papers, but I can't remember the last time I saw a magazine...no one at work either. Younger gals used to have fashion/lifestyle mags, but our younger female staff never have a magazine...guys no longer have sports mags like they did..

You are correct, magazines are pretty dire. Compare the National Geographic of old, compared to today's - nothing special, I wouldn't pay a cent for it. Same with the most all else...


--
Best
Greg

On 2016-08-22 3:02 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
>> worth my time to look.
>
> I still get paper newspapers delivered 7 days a week. Only the Sunday
> paper contains some food coupons these days and they aren't that good
> either. I look thru them each sunday and toss most of them. Coupons
> today are not so great like they used to be many years ago.
>


I don't get any coupons in the newspaper I subscribe to. There are a
couple local community papers that have the flyers for local store
sales. I can't remember the last time I saw a coupon in a newspaper,
but that may be because I don't look for them.

On 8/22/2016 6:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
> worth my time to look.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Coupons for food items are generally for those who buy stuff like
Hamburger Helper.

I do use coupons for every day household items, cleaning products, etc.

Jill

On 2016-08-22 6:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Coupons for food items are generally for those who buy stuff like
> Hamburger Helper.
>
> I do use coupons for every day household items, cleaning products, etc.


My limited experience with coupons is that they are almost always for
things I would be unlikely to buy on my own. The last coupon I used was
one that my mother gave me because she thought I might enjoy it. That
one was for Dr. Oetker's Lava Cake, and she died 8 years ago, so it was
some time before that.

In article >, ost
says...
>
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 08:19:47 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking shots
> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon or
> >> something?
> >
> > Don't expect too much.
>
> Bruce isn't even vegetarian. It's just one of his schticks he uses to
> poke people while trolling RFC. Anybody who pays him any attention is
> just playing his game. He is literally the most useless poster here
> (but he's in close competition with a few others like).
>
> [Here come the mental midget Sqwertz-bashers <yawn>]

Interesting group dynamics always in rfc. Like sharks that smell blood

In article > ,
lid says...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:25:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Cheri" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >
> > >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> > ET...
> > >> In article >, says...
> > >>>
> > >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > >>> ...
> > >>> > On 8/22/2016 2:31 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Difference being, I don't try to push an agenda onto you by taking
> > >>> >> shots
> > >>> >> at you for not eating meat, so it's you that's aggressive. Surely you
> > >>> >> have some good vegetarian dishes to share? Maybe a selfie of a melon
> > >>> >> or
> > >>> >> something?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Cheri
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Don't expect too much.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Jill
> > >>>
> > >>> Truly.
> > >>
> > >> Look at the two little bitches having fun. Cute
> > >
> > >
> > >Looks like you are looking for a time out little boy, so you got
> > >it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the corner.
> > >
> > >Cheri
> > >
> > >--------------
> > >
> > >Actually that doesn't sound like Bruce, unless I am mistaken
> >
> > You don't read all his posts then, it's fairly typical. Look at the
> > things he has called me! I hasten to add, not that I care!
>
> I don't remember. Was it bad?

No reply. You made it up. I knew it

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:30:20 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, gravesend10
says...
>>
>> The only worthwhile coupons I use are for cat food and cat litter and
>> I get those via snail mail directly from the manufacturers. All the
>> other coupons I see are either for new junk food products or for
>> something I had tried that I wouldn't want again even were it free. I
>> do use some coupons from the BJs monthy that's snail mailed for being
>> a member. The bargains I find are from checking a couple of local
>> store's weekly circular on line... they arrive by email and only takes
>> me five minutes to scan through for the few items I'd buy
>
> We don't get coupons here, but smkt weekly circulars get delivered
>along with the mail so I watch for the latest loss-leaders. Whenever
>they offer a bargain reduction or BOGOF on storeable supplies we
>regularly use, I bulk buy a hefty supply. (We have ample storage space).
> Janet UK.

I probably have more storage space than most smkts but still I'm aware
of 'best used by dates' and most of those sales occur regularly.
Tomorrow I'll be going into town to shop and one sale is for 7-Up
which we use, but just because it's B2G3F I'll only buy the five 12
packs because they will have the same sale in about a month for
Sprite, the same lemon lime flavor... and we don't consume a dozen
cans a day each. They also have Grade AA medium eggs on sale for
79¢/doz but I'll only get three dozen as eggs are perishable and
there'll be a similar sale shortly... eggs and chickens are always on
sale here due to all the very large poultry farms in the area... one
of the biggest costs for perishables is transportation... this is a
farming community, most huge livestock operations are within five
miles of my front door, a cattle farm and a chicken farm I can walk to
in under ten minutes... and then many of my neighbors sell eggs,
chickens, honey, maple syrup, and even fleeces for spinning. I have a
neighbor less than 1/4 mile down this road who raises llamas. alpaca,
and vicuna, and he makes gorgeous spinning wheels for sale. The
couple takes in all sorts of neglected/abused animals, I donate food
for their livestock. They sell eggs and honey too They have a very
nice web site featuring all their critters but I won't post it here
for the world to know where I live.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/22/2016 6:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
>> worth my time to look.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Coupons for food items are generally for those who buy stuff like
> Hamburger Helper.
>
> I do use coupons for every day household items, cleaning products, etc.
>
> Jill

Yes, that's mostly what I use them for, and yogurt.

Cheri

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:09:04 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:30:20 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, gravesend10
says...
>>>
>>> The only worthwhile coupons I use are for cat food and cat litter and
>>> I get those via snail mail directly from the manufacturers. All the
>>> other coupons I see are either for new junk food products or for
>>> something I had tried that I wouldn't want again even were it free. I
>>> do use some coupons from the BJs monthy that's snail mailed for being
>>> a member. The bargains I find are from checking a couple of local
>>> store's weekly circular on line... they arrive by email and only takes
>>> me five minutes to scan through for the few items I'd buy
>>
>> We don't get coupons here, but smkt weekly circulars get delivered
>>along with the mail so I watch for the latest loss-leaders. Whenever
>>they offer a bargain reduction or BOGOF on storeable supplies we
>>regularly use, I bulk buy a hefty supply. (We have ample storage space).
>> Janet UK.
>
> I probably have more storage space than most smkts but still I'm aware
> of 'best used by dates' and most of those sales occur regularly.
> Tomorrow I'll be going into town to shop and one sale is for 7-Up
> which we use, but just because it's B2G3F I'll only buy the five 12
> packs because they will have the same sale in about a month for
> Sprite, the same lemon lime flavor... and we don't consume a dozen
> cans a day each. They also have Grade AA medium eggs on sale for
> 79¢/doz but I'll only get three dozen as eggs are perishable and
> there'll be a similar sale shortly... eggs and chickens are always on
> sale here due to all the very large poultry farms in the area... one
> of the biggest costs for perishables is transportation... this is a
> farming community, most huge livestock operations are within five
> miles of my front door, a cattle farm and a chicken farm I can walk to
> in under ten minutes... and then many of my neighbors sell eggs,
> chickens, honey, maple syrup, and even fleeces for spinning. I have a
> neighbor less than 1/4 mile down this road who raises llamas. alpaca,
> and vicuna, and he makes gorgeous spinning wheels for sale. The
> couple takes in all sorts of neglected/abused animals, I donate food
> for their livestock. They sell eggs and honey too They have a very
> nice web site featuring all their critters but I won't post it here
> for the world to know where I live.

Turn down the volume on your computer or phone before you visit

http://www.cluckinacritterfarm.com/

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 03:29:05 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> I so rarely find a coupon for anything that I'd buy that it isn't
> worth my time to look.

How about the coupons you do find for new items the store has never
heard of even though they are a name brand? Don't get me started on
the gigantic sizes or ridiculous multiples you'd have to buy to use a
measly $1 off coupon. I finally gave up on those things, because they
simply weren't worth it to me.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:30:20 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, gravesend10
> says...
> >>
> >> The only worthwhile coupons I use are for cat food and cat litter and
> >> I get those via snail mail directly from the manufacturers. All the
> >> other coupons I see are either for new junk food products or for
> >> something I had tried that I wouldn't want again even were it free. I
> >> do use some coupons from the BJs monthy that's snail mailed for being
> >> a member. The bargains I find are from checking a couple of local
> >> store's weekly circular on line... they arrive by email and only takes
> >> me five minutes to scan through for the few items I'd buy
> >
> > We don't get coupons here, but smkt weekly circulars get delivered
> >along with the mail so I watch for the latest loss-leaders. Whenever
> >they offer a bargain reduction or BOGOF on storeable supplies we
> >regularly use, I bulk buy a hefty supply. (We have ample storage space).
> > Janet UK.
>
> I probably have more storage space than most smkts but still I'm aware
> of 'best used by dates'

The only food stuffs I buy in bulk to store, are sacks of petfood,
vacuum packed coffee, canned ( kidney beans, tomatoes, and sardines for
the dog); bottled (favourite wines and olive oil) and they all get used
up in rotation long before their best before date. The rest of it is
last-forever stuff like toothpaste, shampoo, laundry detergents,
cleaners, lav paper and kitchen roll.

Janet UK