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On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:09:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote: > > > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > Hashi? > > > > > > Japanese word for chopsticks. > > > > Primitive eating utensils before someone got smart enough to invent > > forks and spoons. Interestingly, it's still popular when eating asian > > dishes for some reason. I guess it's just tradition. > > > > ============= > > > > Or preference if they are something they grew up with ![]() > > If that is the case, then why don't they eat every single meal with > chopsticks? At least in the usa, you only see chopsticks with asian > meals. Steak dinner or Thanksgiving turkey dinner eaten with a pair of > sticks? LOL. Evidently, there's some kind of petty gamesmanship going on in this chopstick vs fork thing. It's pretty juvenile to base cultural superiority on eating utensils. The debate on the superior eating thing will rage on and on but if we want to be logical about this, it doesn't matter which is better. What is culturally superior is the ability to use either one with equal proficiency and slip seamlessly between cuisines of the East and West. What this means is that the Hawaiians pretty much got it all. |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:09:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > Ophelia wrote: > > > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > Hashi? > > > > > > Japanese word for chopsticks. > > > > Primitive eating utensils before someone got smart enough to invent > > forks and spoons. Interestingly, it's still popular when eating asian > > dishes for some reason. I guess it's just tradition. > > > > ============= > > > > Or preference if they are something they grew up with ![]() > > If that is the case, then why don't they eat every single meal with > chopsticks? At least in the usa, you only see chopsticks with asian > meals. Steak dinner or Thanksgiving turkey dinner eaten with a pair of > sticks? LOL. Evidently, there's some kind of petty gamesmanship going on in this chopstick vs fork thing. It's pretty juvenile to base cultural superiority on eating utensils. The debate on the superior eating thing will rage on and on but if we want to be logical about this, it doesn't matter which is better. What is culturally superior is the ability to use either one with equal proficiency and slip seamlessly between cuisines of the East and West. What this means is that the Hawaiians pretty much got it all. ======= Not surprising since just about everything is turned into some kind of superiority battle here. Personally, I have never mastered chopsticks, but I wish I could use them with skill like my little sister. ![]() Cheri |
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"Nancy2" wrote in message
... Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I want for supper..... N. =========== The sandwiches I see posted here are so huge, I don't know how else you could eat them. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:09:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > Ophelia wrote: > > > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > Hashi? > > > > > > Japanese word for chopsticks. > > > > Primitive eating utensils before someone got smart enough to invent > > forks and spoons. Interestingly, it's still popular when eating asian > > dishes for some reason. I guess it's just tradition. > > > > ============= > > > > Or preference if they are something they grew up with ![]() > > If that is the case, then why don't they eat every single meal with > chopsticks? At least in the usa, you only see chopsticks with asian > meals. Steak dinner or Thanksgiving turkey dinner eaten with a pair of > sticks? LOL. Evidently, there's some kind of petty gamesmanship going on in this chopstick vs fork thing. It's pretty juvenile to base cultural superiority on eating utensils. The debate on the superior eating thing will rage on and on but if we want to be logical about this, it doesn't matter which is better. What is culturally superior is the ability to use either one with equal proficiency and slip seamlessly between cuisines of the East and West. What this means is that the Hawaiians pretty much got it all. ============ That sounds right to me. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Cheri" wrote in message ...
"dsi1" > wrote in message ... On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:09:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > Ophelia wrote: > > > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > Hashi? > > > > > > Japanese word for chopsticks. > > > > Primitive eating utensils before someone got smart enough to invent > > forks and spoons. Interestingly, it's still popular when eating asian > > dishes for some reason. I guess it's just tradition. > > > > ============= > > > > Or preference if they are something they grew up with ![]() > > If that is the case, then why don't they eat every single meal with > chopsticks? At least in the usa, you only see chopsticks with asian > meals. Steak dinner or Thanksgiving turkey dinner eaten with a pair of > sticks? LOL. Evidently, there's some kind of petty gamesmanship going on in this chopstick vs fork thing. It's pretty juvenile to base cultural superiority on eating utensils. The debate on the superior eating thing will rage on and on but if we want to be logical about this, it doesn't matter which is better. What is culturally superior is the ability to use either one with equal proficiency and slip seamlessly between cuisines of the East and West. What this means is that the Hawaiians pretty much got it all. ======= Not surprising since just about everything is turned into some kind of superiority battle here. Personally, I have never mastered chopsticks, but I wish I could use them with skill like my little sister. ![]() Cheri ========== I have never tried but I would like to if it was with the right food ... and a teacher on hand ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 8:35:29 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message > ... > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:09:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > Hashi? > > > > > > > > Japanese word for chopsticks. > > > > > > Primitive eating utensils before someone got smart enough to invent > > > forks and spoons. Interestingly, it's still popular when eating asian > > > dishes for some reason. I guess it's just tradition. > > > > > > ============= > > > > > > Or preference if they are something they grew up with ![]() > > > > If that is the case, then why don't they eat every single meal with > > chopsticks? At least in the usa, you only see chopsticks with asian > > meals. Steak dinner or Thanksgiving turkey dinner eaten with a pair of > > sticks? LOL. > > Evidently, there's some kind of petty gamesmanship going on in this > chopstick vs fork thing. It's pretty juvenile to base cultural superiority > on eating utensils. The debate on the superior eating thing will rage on and > on but if we want to be logical about this, it doesn't matter which is > better. What is culturally superior is the ability to use either one with > equal proficiency and slip seamlessly between cuisines of the East and West. > What this means is that the Hawaiians pretty much got it all. > > ======= > > Not surprising since just about everything is turned into some kind of > superiority battle here. Personally, I have never mastered chopsticks, but I > wish I could use them with skill like my little sister. ![]() > > Cheri It's the smallest of brownie points laid upon a giant heap of nothing. ![]() |
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"dsi1" wrote in message ...
On 8/24/2016 9:56 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote: > On 8/24/2016 12:52 PM, Helpful person wrote: >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 9:13:23 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> >>> You have failed to convince me that a fork is inherently superior to >>> chopsticks. You still have to cut stuff up when using a fork. >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >> >> In general I believe chopsticks are superior to a knife and fork if >> the dish has been prepared for them. It's easier to slow down and eat >> less quickly with chop sticks, hence savoring the food. They also >> leave one hand free. >> >> http://www.richardfisher.com >> > > > Free to do what with? > > And if the food has been prepared for chopsticks, you only need one hand > to work the fork. > > I foresee an ADA lawsuit regarding chopsticks in the not too distant > future. > > Or complaints of cultural misappropriation. It's a freakin' safety issue for some people. Don't let this happen to you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8PRFro7v0 ============== Oh dear .. it least it didn't waste a bullet ... <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > > Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > > the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > > want for supper..... > > > > N. > > > The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > Graham The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered in gravy. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:13:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"Nancy2" wrote in message ... > >Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their >hands, so >the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's >what I >want for supper..... > >N. > >=========== > >The sandwiches I see posted here are so huge, I don't know how else you >could eat them. Yesterday for lunch at the pub I had a roast beef sandwich. I asked her to ask the chef to find slices in the middle where it was less well done. I had two pieces of wholewheat bread, beef, tomato and lettuce in it. It had been sliced in half diagonally. Very tasty, I picked it up and made sure I was over the plate - in case lol It was rather like having a hamburger. It really came with fries but I asked her to hold the fries as I knew I couldn't manage it all and sandwiches do not make good doggy bags. It was all I ate yesterday, when suppertime came, just couldn't eat anything so didn't bother. |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 03:47:00 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >> > Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >> > the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >> > want for supper..... >> > >> > N. >> > >> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >> Graham > >The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >in gravy. > >Cindy Hamilton Mine was hot, as in newly toasted, but ack I loathe gravy over it so ordered without that. You're right though, that's the meaning of a hot sandwich here. |
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On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>> want for supper..... >>> >>> N. >>> >> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >> Graham > > The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > in gravy. > > Cindy Hamilton > Then is it really a sandwich? |
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Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: > >> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > >>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > >>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > >>> want for supper..... > >>> > >>> N. > >>> > >> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > >> Graham > > > > The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > > in gravy. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > Then is it really a sandwich? Kind of sounds more like a glorified SoS meal. Sounds good regardless. |
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On 8/25/2016 4:49 AM, Gary wrote:
> Taxed and Spent wrote: >> >> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>>>> want for supper..... >>>>> >>>>> N. >>>>> >>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >>>> Graham >>> >>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >>> in gravy. >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >>> >> >> Then is it really a sandwich? > > Kind of sounds more like a glorified SoS meal. Sounds good regardless. > yes, but that would be akin to saying you can't eat sushi with chopsticks because an 10 oz chunk of fish is "sushi". |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:22:26 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: > > Nancy2 wrote: > > > > > > I have never had sushi but I often see restaurant scenes where pieces are dipped into > > > a sauce...in that case, chopsticks would be necessary. > > > > A pair of sticks is never necessary for eating unless you're out camping > > in the woods and you forgot to bring utensils. ;-) > > You know, this is at least the third time we've had this same discussion. > You weren't able to convince anybody to abandon chopsticks before; I doubt > you'll be able to do it now. Cindy...I've never posted here trying to change anyones opinion. I'm just saying my opinion. I don't claim to be right or wrong...just my view. I think chopsticks are silly for eating when we now have forks but I don't.....uh well ok, I do laugh about it. But that's only me. Until I get elected God, everyone feel free to eat as you want to. ![]() No need to get offended by my opinion. --- "I think it is just terrible how everyone has treated Lance Armstrong, especially after what he achieved winning seven Tour de France races while competing on drugs. When I was on drugs, I couldn't even find my bike." |
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Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > yes, but that would be akin to saying you can't eat sushi with > chopsticks because a 10 oz chunk of fish is "sushi" I don't do raw seafood or use a pair of twigs to eat any of my meals. Here's a thought.... if you serve a meal for eating with chopsticks, it might be cool to put a pair of drum sticks (musical drumsticks, not chicken ones) into the serving bowls? yes...no? ![]() |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: > >> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > >>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > >>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > >>> want for supper..... > >>> > >>> N. > >>> > >> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > >> Graham > > > > The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > > in gravy. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > Then is it really a sandwich? It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 8:00:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:22:26 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: > > > Nancy2 wrote: > > > > > > > > I have never had sushi but I often see restaurant scenes where pieces are dipped into > > > > a sauce...in that case, chopsticks would be necessary. > > > > > > A pair of sticks is never necessary for eating unless you're out camping > > > in the woods and you forgot to bring utensils. ;-) > > > > You know, this is at least the third time we've had this same discussion. > > You weren't able to convince anybody to abandon chopsticks before; I doubt > > you'll be able to do it now. > > Cindy...I've never posted here trying to change anyones opinion. I'm > just saying my opinion. I don't claim to be right or wrong...just my > view. I think chopsticks are silly for eating when we now have forks but > I don't.....uh well ok, I do laugh about it. But that's only me. Until > I get elected God, everyone feel free to eat as you want to. ![]() > > No need to get offended by my opinion. I'm not offended. You still haven't convinced me that forks are inherently better. It's all down to what you're used to, and to a certain extent, how versatile you want to be. I'm never faced with "Please bring me a fork, I can't use chopsticks." I can't fathom why you care whether gaijin use hashi. If I get chopsticks with my Chinese carryout, why not use them? They're right there, and I don't have to go rustle up a fork. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 8:07:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Taxed and Spent wrote: > > > > yes, but that would be akin to saying you can't eat sushi with > > chopsticks because a 10 oz chunk of fish is "sushi" > > I don't do raw seafood or use a pair of twigs to eat any of my meals. > > Here's a thought.... if you serve a meal for eating with chopsticks, it > might be cool to put a pair of drum sticks (musical drumsticks, not > chicken ones) into the serving bowls? yes...no? ![]() Too big and clumsy. Look at how drumsticks are held versus chopsticks. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>>>> want for supper..... >>>>> >>>>> N. >>>>> >>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >>>> Graham >>> >>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >>> in gravy. >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >>> >> >> Then is it really a sandwich? > > It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? > > Cindy Hamilton > I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered with gravy. What a monstrosity. |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > I can't fathom why you care whether gaijin use hashi. If I get > chopsticks with my Chinese carryout, why not use them? They're > right there, and I don't have to go rustle up a fork. I often get chinese takeout and I never consider chopsticks for eating it, even if they include them. I bring it home and get out the spoon and fork. To "rustle up a fork" takes me like 5 seconds. eheh Another 5 seconds to throw the chopsticks in my drawer. I just find it funny and odd that Usains seem to only eat with chopsticks when eating chinese or japanese food. I'd never consider eating my hamburger with chopsticks. Fries would work though...you can spear them with one chopstick. |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 8:07:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: > > Taxed and Spent wrote: > > > > > > yes, but that would be akin to saying you can't eat sushi with > > > chopsticks because a 10 oz chunk of fish is "sushi" > > > > I don't do raw seafood or use a pair of twigs to eat any of my meals. > > > > Here's a thought.... if you serve a meal for eating with chopsticks, it > > might be cool to put a pair of drum sticks (musical drumsticks, not > > chicken ones) into the serving bowls? yes...no? ![]() > > Too big and clumsy. Look at how drumsticks are held versus chopsticks. Look at how a fork is held versus chopsticks. lol I'm just teasing at this point. I'm serious about the utensils but it's funny to argue occasionally. It keeps the group going. I have no problem with people thinking it's suave to eat with sticks. Just not my thing. |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 04:03:02 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>>> want for supper..... >>>> >>>> N. >>>> >>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >>> Graham >> >> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >> in gravy. >> >> Cindy Hamilton That's not true, a hot roast beef sandwich can be served without gravy. >Then is it really a sandwich? Depends whether open faced or not.... an open faced sandwich requires a knife and fork whether there's gravy or not. However I've had closed roast beef sandwiches with gravy that are picked up and eaten same as any regular sandwhich. Then there are French dips, that are constantly dipped in gravy as one eats. Nowadays the "wrap" has become in vogue, the fillings all rolled in a wheat tortilla, some hot, some cold, some dipped, some not. http://www.food.com/recipe/awesome-a...f-wraps-147611 http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/...ich-57851.aspx http://search.aol.com/aol/image?q=ro...ord_rollove r |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:14:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 8:07:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: >> > Taxed and Spent wrote: >> > > >> > > yes, but that would be akin to saying you can't eat sushi with >> > > chopsticks because a 10 oz chunk of fish is "sushi" >> > >> > I don't do raw seafood or use a pair of twigs to eat any of my meals. >> > >> > Here's a thought.... if you serve a meal for eating with chopsticks, it >> > might be cool to put a pair of drum sticks (musical drumsticks, not >> > chicken ones) into the serving bowls? yes...no? ![]() >> >> Too big and clumsy. Look at how drumsticks are held versus chopsticks. > >Look at how a fork is held versus chopsticks. lol >I'm just teasing at this point. I'm serious about the utensils but it's >funny to argue occasionally. It keeps the group going. I have no >problem with people thinking it's suave to eat with sticks. Just not my >thing. I don't mind eating with chop sticks, in fact I'd often ask for them at Chinese restaurants... some times they'd ask if I'm sure as though a round eyes wouldn't know how but they are very suprised to see how defty I can handle chop sticks. What I don't much care for are those Chinese soup spoons, I think they are pretentious, allows one to slurp... If they want to slurp just pick up the bowl and have at it... hypocritical as well because the Chinese pick up the bowl and shovel in rice with chop sticks. |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:53:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >> >> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >> >>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >> >>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >> >>> want for supper..... >> >>> >> >>> N. >> >>> >> >> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >> >> Graham >> > >> > The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >> > in gravy. >> > >> > Cindy Hamilton >> > >> >> Then is it really a sandwich? > >It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? > >Cindy Hamilton Typically a roast beef sandwhich with gravy would be open faced, one slice of bread... but one can have a roast beef sandwich with gravy between two slices of bread only not nearly so much gravy. Sometimes I'll have a cold roast beef sandwhich with gravy with two slices of bread, but the gravy is Heinz red blended with soy sauce. |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 06:06:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >>> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >>>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>>>>> want for supper..... >>>>>> >>>>>> N. >>>>>> >>>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >>>>> Graham >>>> >>>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >>>> in gravy. >>>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton >>>> >>> >>> Then is it really a sandwich? >> >> It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? >> >> Cindy Hamilton >> > >I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered >with gravy. What a monstrosity. I have that type of sandwhich very often, only not as much gravy as an open face sandwhich. My favorite open faced hot sandwhich with gravy is meat loaf. |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > >> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: > >>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > >>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > >>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > >>>>> want for supper..... > >>>>> > >>>>> N. > >>>>> > >>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > >>>> Graham > >>> > >>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > >>> in gravy. > >>> > >>> Cindy Hamilton > >>> > >> > >> Then is it really a sandwich? > > > > It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered > with gravy. What a monstrosity. You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> Cindy Hamilton |
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![]() "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent >> > wrote: >> >> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >> >>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >> >>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with >> >>>>> their hands, so >> >>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now >> >>>>> that's what I >> >>>>> want for supper..... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> N. >> >>>>> >> >>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your >> >>>> hands! >> >>>> Graham >> >>> >> >>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >> >>> in gravy. >> >>> >> >>> Cindy Hamilton >> >>> >> >> >> >> Then is it really a sandwich? >> > >> > It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? >> > >> > Cindy Hamilton >> > >> >> I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered >> with gravy. What a monstrosity. > > You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: > > <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> > > Cindy Hamilton Whenever I used to make hot pork or hot beef sandwiches, I always used two slices of bread. No monstrosity at all, any more than a couple of pieces of french toast with syrup are monstrosities. Cheri |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:59:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 8:00:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: >> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > >> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:22:26 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: >> > > Nancy2 wrote: >> > > > >> > > > I have never had sushi but I often see restaurant scenes where pieces are dipped into >> > > > a sauce...in that case, chopsticks would be necessary. >> > > >> > > A pair of sticks is never necessary for eating unless you're out camping >> > > in the woods and you forgot to bring utensils. ;-) >> > >> > You know, this is at least the third time we've had this same discussion. >> > You weren't able to convince anybody to abandon chopsticks before; I doubt >> > you'll be able to do it now. >> >> Cindy...I've never posted here trying to change anyones opinion. I'm >> just saying my opinion. I don't claim to be right or wrong...just my >> view. I think chopsticks are silly for eating when we now have forks but >> I don't.....uh well ok, I do laugh about it. But that's only me. Until >> I get elected God, everyone feel free to eat as you want to. ![]() >> >> No need to get offended by my opinion. > >I'm not offended. You still haven't convinced me that forks are inherently >better. It's all down to what you're used to, and to a certain extent, how >versatile you want to be. I'm never faced with "Please bring me a fork, >I can't use chopsticks." > >I can't fathom why you care whether gaijin use hashi. If I get >chopsticks with my Chinese carryout, why not use them? They're >right there, and I don't have to go rustle up a fork. > >Cindy Hamilton A simple way to comprehend is that eating utensils depend on one's culture and a whole lot more people on this planet use chopsticks than forks. Actually a lot more people eat with their fingers than forks too (no utensils)... forks are way in the minority. At home I eat most meals from a bowl with a spoon... I just finished a big bowlful of tomato, cukes, and onion salad w/Wishbone Italian, eaten with a spoon... everything cut small; diced cukes, diced onion, and quarterd cherry tomatoes... thought of adding diced celery and bell peppers too but there was no more room in my two qt bowl. Sometimes the only utensil I need for dinner is a large glass. We can thank the Brits for dining with knives and forks at table... most cultures look down at dining with knives and forks at table, those are considered weapons. |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:51:28 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote: >On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:14:01 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >>Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 8:07:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: >>> > Taxed and Spent wrote: >>> > > >>> > > yes, but that would be akin to saying you can't eat sushi with >>> > > chopsticks because a 10 oz chunk of fish is "sushi" >>> > >>> > I don't do raw seafood or use a pair of twigs to eat any of my meals. >>> > >>> > Here's a thought.... if you serve a meal for eating with chopsticks, it >>> > might be cool to put a pair of drum sticks (musical drumsticks, not >>> > chicken ones) into the serving bowls? yes...no? ![]() >>> >>> Too big and clumsy. Look at how drumsticks are held versus chopsticks. >> >>Look at how a fork is held versus chopsticks. lol >>I'm just teasing at this point. I'm serious about the utensils but it's >>funny to argue occasionally. It keeps the group going. I have no >>problem with people thinking it's suave to eat with sticks. Just not my >>thing. > >I don't mind eating with chop sticks, in fact I'd often ask for them >at Chinese restaurants... some times they'd ask if I'm sure as though >a round eyes wouldn't know how but they are very suprised to see how >defty I can handle chop sticks. What I don't much care for are those >Chinese soup spoons, I think they are pretentious, allows one to >slurp... If they want to slurp just pick up the bowl and have at it... >hypocritical as well because the Chinese pick up the bowl and shovel >in rice with chop sticks. You must love Trump, you're a racist just like him! |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:09:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >> I can't fathom why you care whether gaijin use hashi. If I get >> chopsticks with my Chinese carryout, why not use them? They're >> right there, and I don't have to go rustle up a fork. > >I often get chinese takeout and I never consider chopsticks for eating >it, even if they include them. I bring it home and get out the spoon and >fork. To "rustle up a fork" takes me like 5 seconds. eheh Another 5 >seconds to throw the chopsticks in my drawer. > >I just find it funny and odd that Usains seem to only eat with >chopsticks when eating chinese or japanese food. I'd never consider >eating my hamburger with chopsticks. Fries would work though...you can >spear them with one chopstick. Most children eat with their fingers, as a sign of attaining adulthood one begins to use chop sticks, chop sticks are really extensions of ones fingers. I've never eaten french fries with utensils, I've always used my fingers... first time I ate french fries they were from a deli, served in a small brown paper bag. |
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On 8/25/2016 10:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >>>> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >>>>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>>>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>>>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>>>>>> want for supper..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> N. >>>>>>> >>>>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >>>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >>>>> in gravy. >>>>> >>>>> Cindy Hamilton >>>>> >>>> >>>> Then is it really a sandwich? >>> >>> It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >>> >> >> I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered >> with gravy. What a monstrosity. > > You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: > > <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> > > Cindy Hamilton > I would say you are the one going to chintzy diners: Price range Under $10 Service is average. Tables, plates and silverware are quite dirty. The food portion was really small. The poached egg was perfectly done. However,due to the uncleanliness of the restaurant, it's not healthy for one to eat in there. Tried it first time and won't be back. |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 2:20:47 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 10:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > >> On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > >>>> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: > >>>>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > >>>>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > >>>>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > >>>>>>> want for supper..... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> N. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > >>>>>> Graham > >>>>> > >>>>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > >>>>> in gravy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cindy Hamilton > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Then is it really a sandwich? > >>> > >>> It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? > >>> > >>> Cindy Hamilton > >>> > >> > >> I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered > >> with gravy. What a monstrosity. > > > > You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: > > > > <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > > I would say you are the one going to chintzy diners: > > > > Price range > Under $10 > > Service is average. Tables, plates and silverware are quite dirty. The > food portion was really small. The poached egg was perfectly done. > However,due to the uncleanliness of the restaurant, it's not healthy for > one to eat in there. Tried it first time and won't be back. Oh, I don't go to the one that I linked to. It was the first one I found that had a good picture of a hot roast beef sandwich with gravy. Here's where I like to go: <http://www.angelosa2.com/> Cindy Hamilton |
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On 8/25/2016 12:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 2:20:47 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> On 8/25/2016 10:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >>>> On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: >>>>>> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: >>>>>>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: >>>>>>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so >>>>>>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I >>>>>>>>> want for supper..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> N. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! >>>>>>>> Graham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered >>>>>>> in gravy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then is it really a sandwich? >>>>> >>>>> It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? >>>>> >>>>> Cindy Hamilton >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered >>>> with gravy. What a monstrosity. >>> >>> You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: >>> >>> <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >>> >> >> >> I would say you are the one going to chintzy diners: >> >> >> >> Price range >> Under $10 >> >> Service is average. Tables, plates and silverware are quite dirty. The >> food portion was really small. The poached egg was perfectly done. >> However,due to the uncleanliness of the restaurant, it's not healthy for >> one to eat in there. Tried it first time and won't be back. > > Oh, I don't go to the one that I linked to. It was the first one I found > that had a good picture of a hot roast beef sandwich with gravy. > > Here's where I like to go: > > <http://www.angelosa2.com/> > > Cindy Hamilton > "Open-faced with gravy, choice of mashed potatoes or french fries (Mon.-Fri. only)" not a sandwich! |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:12:43 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > > On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > > >> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: > > >>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > > >>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > > >>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > > >>>>> want for supper..... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> N. > > >>>>> > > >>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > > >>>> Graham > > >>> > > >>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > > >>> in gravy. > > >>> > > >>> Cindy Hamilton > > >>> > > >> > > >> Then is it really a sandwich? > > > > > > It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > > > > I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered > > with gravy. What a monstrosity. > > You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: > > <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> > > Cindy Hamilton I love those sandwiches. Especially if they dump the mashed potatoes on top and put gravy on top of that. I may like that even more than a loco moco. Hoo boy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6oisfv2Euc |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 4:06:26 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 12:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 2:20:47 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > >> On 8/25/2016 10:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > >>>> On 8/25/2016 5:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 7:03:04 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote: > >>>>>> On 8/25/2016 3:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:35:11 PM UTC-4, graham wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 8/24/2016 3:21 PM, Nancy2 wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Tax, I would hate to see someone eat a hot roast beef sandwich with their hands, so > >>>>>>>>> the answer is yes, we eat sandwiches with a fork. Lol. Damn, now that's what I > >>>>>>>>> want for supper..... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> N. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The whole point of a sandwich is that it can be eaten with your hands! > >>>>>>>> Graham > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The whole point of a hot roast beef sandwich is that it's covered > >>>>>>> in gravy. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Then is it really a sandwich? > >>>>> > >>>>> It's between two pieces of bread, isn't it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cindy Hamilton > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I have never seen something covered with two pieces of bread and covered > >>>> with gravy. What a monstrosity. > >>> > >>> You must go to some pretty chintzy diners: > >>> > >>> <http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/07/hotticket_item_hot_beef_sandwi.html> > >>> > >>> Cindy Hamilton > >>> > >> > >> > >> I would say you are the one going to chintzy diners: > >> > >> > >> > >> Price range > >> Under $10 > >> > >> Service is average. Tables, plates and silverware are quite dirty. The > >> food portion was really small. The poached egg was perfectly done. > >> However,due to the uncleanliness of the restaurant, it's not healthy for > >> one to eat in there. Tried it first time and won't be back. > > > > Oh, I don't go to the one that I linked to. It was the first one I found > > that had a good picture of a hot roast beef sandwich with gravy. > > > > Here's where I like to go: > > > > <http://www.angelosa2.com/> > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > > "Open-faced with gravy, choice of mashed potatoes or french fries > (Mon.-Fri. only)" > > not a sandwich! Doesn't matter. I go to Angelo's for the waffles. There's a song: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc1V260ryE0> Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 12:41:51 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message ... > > On 8/24/2016 9:56 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote: > > On 8/24/2016 12:52 PM, Helpful person wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 9:13:23 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>> > >>> You have failed to convince me that a fork is inherently superior to > >>> chopsticks. You still have to cut stuff up when using a fork. > >>> > >>> Cindy Hamilton > >> > >> In general I believe chopsticks are superior to a knife and fork if > >> the dish has been prepared for them. It's easier to slow down and eat > >> less quickly with chop sticks, hence savoring the food. They also > >> leave one hand free. > >> > >> http://www.richardfisher.com > >> > > > > > > Free to do what with? > > > > And if the food has been prepared for chopsticks, you only need one hand > > to work the fork. > > > > I foresee an ADA lawsuit regarding chopsticks in the not too distant > > future. > > > > Or complaints of cultural misappropriation. > > It's a freakin' safety issue for some people. Don't let this happen to you! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8PRFro7v0 > > ============== > > Oh dear .. it least it didn't waste a bullet ... <g> > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Bullet conservation is not a big concern in that movie. I love that movie though. Who wouldn't love a movie with Japanese, Mexican, and American, mobsters in a turf war? In the end the Japanese get wiped out by the Italians. That's the breaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fHNAQHJ6j4 |
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Not only hot roast beef sandwiches (roast beef, sliced, in white bread, then
cut catty-corner, separated on the plate, a dipper of mashed potatoes between the two sandwich halves and then roast beef gravy poured over it all)......but The Croque Monsieur and Croque Mademoiselle also. These are not usually eaten with the hands. There is also the Kentucky Hot Brown, but I don't know what that is, exactly. all of these too messy to eat with the hands. N. |
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