My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens with the inverter technology.
I ordered a Panasonic regular mid-sized model on sale for $119.00 CAD.
Have any of you with the new inverter technology experienced any problems? I liked the concept of the new models but repair record was a bit iffy and it scared me off choosing one.
====

"Roy" wrote in message
...

My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens
with the inverter technology.
I ordered a Panasonic regular mid-sized model on sale for $119.00 CAD.
Have any of you with the new inverter technology experienced any problems? I
liked the concept of the new models but repair record was a bit iffy and it
scared me off choosing one.
====

Yes I have it and have never had problems I've had mine for a few years
and it is excellent. If you have the 'chaos' function, use it! It is a
defroster and works beautifully. You need to punch in the weight and type
and leave it to do its job. I use the convection for small amounts of food
.... excellent too. The regular 'defrost' function is rubbish the same as on
other machines.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>
>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens
>with the inverter technology.

Had one, upper end of the line.

Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.

Never again will I buy Panasonic.

"The New Other Guy" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>
>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave
>ovens
>with the inverter technology.

Had one, upper end of the line.

Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.

Never again will I buy Panasonic.

===========

I'm very sorry you had that problem. Mine has been fine for several years
now.







--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 02:03:06 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

>
>Had one, upper end of the line.
>
>Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>
>Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>

You may and never know it. I read that Panasonic makes many of the
brands you see.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 02:03:06 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

>
>Had one, upper end of the line.
>
>Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>
>Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>

You may and never know it. I read that Panasonic makes many of the
brands you see.
=========

I didn't know that! Mind does say Panasonic on it though.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Roy" wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
> >thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens
> >with the inverter technology.
>
> Had one, upper end of the line.
>
> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>
> Never again will I buy Panasonic.

There are 2 electronics brands that I've always had good experiences
with: Panasonic and HP. Only anecdotal, of course.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens with the inverter technology.
>I ordered a Panasonic regular mid-sized model on sale for $119.00 CAD.
>Have any of you with the new inverter technology experienced any problems? I liked the concept of the new models but repair record was a bit iffy and it scared me off choosing one.
>====

I have the over-the-stove one that ten years ago was around $400. It
also serves as the extractor. I love the inverter setting on mine, I
use it for things like melting butter so there isn't spatter all over
the oven. I did have one hitch, steam from the stove most likely,
caused a solder in the panel to spring but it took seconds to fix and
the rest of the time has been hassle free. I also like the power
setting where I can adjust it, great for cooking fish.

"The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>>
>>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave
>>ovens
>>with the inverter technology.
>
> Had one, upper end of the line.
>
> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>
> Never again will I buy Panasonic.

That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would never
buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a lot
of nice functions for $78.00.

Cheri

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:36:56 -0700, "Cheri" > wrote:

>> Had one, upper end of the line.
>>
>> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>
>> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>
>That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would never
>buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a lot
>of nice functions for $78.00.

My landlord has a cheap smaller Emerson on the patio that I use,
works fine, and has for quite a while, at FAR less than I paid
for the Panasonic.

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>
>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens
>with the inverter technology.
>I ordered a Panasonic regular mid-sized model on sale for $119.00 CAD.
>Have any of you with the new inverter technology experienced any problems? I
>liked the concept of the new models but repair record was a bit iffy and it
>scared me off choosing one.
>====
>
>Yes I have it and have never had problems I've had mine for a few years
>and it is excellent. If you have the 'chaos' function, use it! It is a
>defroster and works beautifully. You need to punch in the weight and type
>and leave it to do its job. I use the convection for small amounts of food
>... excellent too. The regular 'defrost' function is rubbish the same as on
>other machines.


I have a nine year old Panasonic Inverter 1250 Watt Microwave. It
works great for me! All my friends and relatives who buy the $29
Microwave Ovens tell me mine heats the food faster. I paid about $100
for it at Costco.

William

On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 02:03:06 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

>Had one, upper end of the line.
>
>Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>
>Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>
that is sad for you...my Panasonic is nine years old and works great!
I don't abuse my microwave oven and I have no problems with it.


William

"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 02:03:06 -0700, The New Other Guy
> > wrote:
>
>>Had one, upper end of the line.
>>
>>Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>>one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>>and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>
>>Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>>
> that is sad for you...my Panasonic is nine years old and works great!
> I don't abuse my microwave oven and I have no problems with it.
>
>
> William

I didn't abuse my Panasonic either, but it wasn't good or lasting.

Cheri

On 9/1/2016 12:46 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 02:03:06 -0700, The New Other Guy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Had one, upper end of the line.
>>>
>>> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a
>>> new
>>> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>>> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>>
>>> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>>>
>> that is sad for you...my Panasonic is nine years old and works great!
>> I don't abuse my microwave oven and I have no problems with it.
>>
>>
>> William
>
> I didn't abuse my Panasonic either, but it wasn't good or lasting.
>
> Cheri
My Panasonic is 19 years old and still working perfectly and it's used
several times per day.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/1/2016 12:46 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 02:03:06 -0700, The New Other Guy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Had one, upper end of the line.
>>>>
>>>> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a
>>>> new
>>>> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>>>> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>>>
>>>> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>>>>
>>> that is sad for you...my Panasonic is nine years old and works great!
>>> I don't abuse my microwave oven and I have no problems with it.
>>>
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> I didn't abuse my Panasonic either, but it wasn't good or lasting.
>>
>> Cheri
> My Panasonic is 19 years old and still working perfectly and it's used
> several times per day.

Sure, some people have good luck with them, some not so much. I would
venture to guess that a microwave made 19 years ago is better made than the
newer ones too.

Cheri

Cheri

The New Other Guy wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:36:56 -0700, "Cheri" > wrote:
>
> >> Had one, upper end of the line.
> >>
> >> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
> >> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
> >> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
> >>
> >> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
> >
> >That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would never
> >buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a lot
> >of nice functions for $78.00.
>
> My landlord has a cheap smaller Emerson on the patio that I use,
> works fine, and has for quite a while, at FAR less than I paid
> for the Panasonic.

My microwave is a 700 watt Sunbeam. It's worked well for many years.
Only cost about $40 back then too. If it dies tomorrow, it's earned it
cost, imo.

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:36:56 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>>>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave
>>>ovens
>>>with the inverter technology.
>>
>> Had one, upper end of the line.
>>
>> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>
>> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>
>That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would never
>buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a lot
>of nice functions for $78.00.
>
>Cheri

Cheri, you can make wiser choices when buying stuff. Join Consumer
Reports. They have bought a bunch of Microwave ovens that they use and
abuse every day in their laboratory at Yonkers, New York. When they
write a rating for products, they tell you which ones are good and
which ones are bad. When I bought my nine year old Panasonic, Consumer
Reports had rated that brand very highly so I felt it was very likely
I would get good results if I bought that brand.

I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
every few months.

William

"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:36:56 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>>>>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave
>>>>ovens
>>>>with the inverter technology.
>>>
>>> Had one, upper end of the line.
>>>
>>> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a
>>> new
>>> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>>> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>>
>>> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>>
>>That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would
>>never
>>buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a
>>lot
>>of nice functions for $78.00.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Cheri, you can make wiser choices when buying stuff. Join Consumer
> Reports. They have bought a bunch of Microwave ovens that they use and
> abuse every day in their laboratory at Yonkers, New York. When they
> write a rating for products, they tell you which ones are good and
> which ones are bad. When I bought my nine year old Panasonic, Consumer
> Reports had rated that brand very highly so I felt it was very likely
> I would get good results if I bought that brand.
>
> I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
> When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
> never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
> every few months.
>
> William

We subscribed to CR, but haven't for several years now, maybe give it a look
again.

Cheri

William wrote:
>
> I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
> When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
> never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
> every few months.

No she doesn't. Pants on fire, William.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> William wrote:
>>
>> I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
>> When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
>> never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
>> every few months.
>
> No she doesn't. Pants on fire, William.

Why do you say that? I have a friend that buys the cheaper toaster ovens,
and when they get really used and not looking new, she throws them away and
buys another. Usually around 25.00 at Walmart, at least every 6 months or
so.

Cheri

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 3:43:57 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > William wrote:
> >>
> >> I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
> >> When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
> >> never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
> >> every few months.
> >
> > No she doesn't. Pants on fire, William.
>
> Why do you say that? I have a friend that buys the cheaper toaster ovens,
> and when they get really used and not looking new, she throws them away and
> buys another. Usually around 25.00 at Walmart, at least every 6 months or
> so.
>
> Cheri

Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
it works.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 6:48:20 AM UTC-10, The New Other Guy wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:36:56 -0700, "Cheri" > wrote:
>
> >> Had one, upper end of the line.
> >>
> >> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
> >> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
> >> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
> >>
> >> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
> >
> >That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would never
> >buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a lot
> >of nice functions for $78.00.
>
> My landlord has a cheap smaller Emerson on the patio that I use,
> works fine, and has for quite a while, at FAR less than I paid
> for the Panasonic.

I got me a fancy schmancy LG microwave a few years ago but that crapped out after a year. I dumped that and got me a cheap Kenmore. So far so good.

My fancy schmancy Samsung refrigerator's in-door ice dispenser ice chute crapped out. It was dispensing ice and the spring that holds the door closed fell out. The end of the spring broke. I ordered a used door/motor assembly from eBay for $45.

Next time, I will get a ice maker without an in-door dispenser. My guess is that the Samsung will crap out before I do. The Korean appliances, have been troublesome.

On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 15:32:27 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:36:56 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"The New Other Guy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:17:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Roy" wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over
>>>>thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave
>>>>ovens
>>>>with the inverter technology.
>>>
>>> Had one, upper end of the line.
>>>
>>> Died in less than 2 years, would have cost almost as much to fix as a new
>>> one, AND I'd have had to take it almost 50 miles to a service center,
>>> and wait 3-4 weeks for the repair.
>>>
>>> Never again will I buy Panasonic.
>>
>>That was my experience as well, in less than 2 years as well. I would never
>>buy a Panasonic again. I ended up buying a cheap Oster 1100, which has a lot
>>of nice functions for $78.00.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>Cheri, you can make wiser choices when buying stuff. Join Consumer
>Reports. They have bought a bunch of Microwave ovens that they use and
>abuse every day in their laboratory at Yonkers, New York. When they
>write a rating for products, they tell you which ones are good and
>which ones are bad. When I bought my nine year old Panasonic, Consumer
>Reports had rated that brand very highly so I felt it was very likely
>I would get good results if I bought that brand.
>
>I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
>When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
>never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
>every few months.
>
>William
>
>
>
OTOH luck plays into it as well. Mad as hell because all the
expensive irons I bought gave up the ghost after a couple of years, I
went to a hardware store and bought the cheapest, $13.50. It always
did the best steaming of any iron I had, but now at something like 15
years old, it has lasted the longest Hope I'm not tempting fate
there, love that iron! I just looked, it's a Lancaster, whoever
heard of them?

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:51:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 3:43:57 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> > William wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
>> >> When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
>> >> never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
>> >> every few months.
>> >
>> > No she doesn't. Pants on fire, William.
>>
>> Why do you say that? I have a friend that buys the cheaper toaster ovens,
>> and when they get really used and not looking new, she throws them away and
>> buys another. Usually around 25.00 at Walmart, at least every 6 months or
>> so.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
>in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
>it works.
>
>Cindy


what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?

William

On 9/1/2016 3:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>

>
> We subscribed to CR, but haven't for several years now, maybe give it a
> look again.
>
> Cheri

I stopped years ago when I disagreed with much of what they wrote. What
they saw as a flaw I saw as a feature. Much of their long term
reliability ratings are good though.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 3:43:57 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > William wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I told my daughter she should buy a Breville Smart Oven toaster oven.
>> >> When she found out it was $250 she said I must be out of my mind. She
>> >> never pays more than $29 for any toaster at Walmart. She buys new ones
>> >> every few months.
>> >
>> > No she doesn't. Pants on fire, William.
>>
>> Why do you say that? I have a friend that buys the cheaper toaster ovens,
>> and when they get really used and not looking new, she throws them away
>> and
>> buys another. Usually around 25.00 at Walmart, at least every 6 months or
>> so.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
> in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
> it works.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I would never throw mine away as long as it works either.

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/1/2016 3:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> We subscribed to CR, but haven't for several years now, maybe give it a
>> look again.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I stopped years ago when I disagreed with much of what they wrote. What
> they saw as a flaw I saw as a feature. Much of their long term
> reliability ratings are good though.

IIRC, I think my dh stopped for some automotive report and didn't renew it.

Cheri

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 4:55:13 PM UTC-4, BigC300 wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:51:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:

> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
> >it works.
> >
> >Cindy
>
>
> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?

Black and Decker.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 03:28:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
>> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
>> >it works.
>> >
>> >Cindy
>>
>>
>> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
>
>Black and Decker.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
General Electric.


William

On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:05:47 -0400, William > wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 03:28:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
> >> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
> >> >it works.
> >> >
> >> >Cindy
> >>
> >>
> >> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
> >
> >Black and Decker.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
> Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
> General Electric.
>
I absolutely loved my GE toaster oven and used it a lot. Couldn't
repair it the last time the bottom heat element went out because the
one place in town where I could have it repaired was gone. Didn't
want a Black & Decker because their replacement product was too
flimsy. They seem to be better made these days, but we have a toaster
that works. I'll reconsider a two slice toaster oven if and when the
toaster ever dies.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

William wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
>>> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
>>> >it works.
>>>
>>> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
>>
>>Black and Decker.
>
>Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
>Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
>General Electric.

I see you moved on to toaster ovens, those are not microwave ovens.
Toasters and toaster ovens ovens are responsible for a lot of house
fires due to their propensity to turn on all by themselves and/or
their shut off mechanism jamming. It's wise to unplug toasters and
toaster ovens when not being used.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...safe/index.htm

On 9/2/2016 1:05 PM, William wrote:

>
> Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
> Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
> General Electric.
>
>
> William
>

It was 1984. Knowing that can change your life and bring you happiness. .

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:45:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
>> Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
>> General Electric.
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>
>It was 1984. Knowing that can change your life and bring you happiness. .

I gave my old GE Toaster Oven to my son last year when I discovered
that Breville had improved GE's design.

William

On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:19:57 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>William wrote:
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
>>>> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
>>>> >it works.
>>>>
>>>> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
>>>
>>>Black and Decker.
>>
>>Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
>>Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
>>General Electric.
>
>I see you moved on to toaster ovens, those are not microwave ovens.
>Toasters and toaster ovens ovens are responsible for a lot of house
>fires due to their propensity to turn on all by themselves and/or
>their shut off mechanism jamming. It's wise to unplug toasters and
>toaster ovens when not being used.
>http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...safe/index.htm


That's very good advice Sheldon. My wife is using our Breville Smart
Oven more than our regular conventional oven.

William

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> William wrote:
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
>>>> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
>>>> >it works.
>>>>
>>>> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
>>>
>>>Black and Decker.
>>
>>Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
>>Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
>>General Electric.
>
> I see you moved on to toaster ovens, those are not microwave ovens.
> Toasters and toaster ovens ovens are responsible for a lot of house
> fires due to their propensity to turn on all by themselves and/or
> their shut off mechanism jamming. It's wise to unplug toasters and
> toaster ovens when not being used.
> http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...safe/index.htm

toasters and toaster ovens were involved in 1,335 fires in 2002-09

ranges were involved in 44,708

I think you confused "a lot of" with "a few"

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:02:48 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>B&D bought GE 32 years ago. So a 25 year-old B&D is a Genuine B&D.

sent all the blueprints to China...

William

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 11:10:07 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > William wrote:
> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>>> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
> >>>> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
> >>>> >it works.
> >>>>
> >>>> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
> >>>
> >>>Black and Decker.
> >>
> >>Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
> >>Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
> >>General Electric.
> >
> > I see you moved on to toaster ovens, those are not microwave ovens.
> > Toasters and toaster ovens ovens are responsible for a lot of house
> > fires due to their propensity to turn on all by themselves and/or
> > their shut off mechanism jamming. It's wise to unplug toasters and
> > toaster ovens when not being used.
> > http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...safe/index.htm
>
> toasters and toaster ovens were involved in 1,335 fires in 2002-09
>
> ranges were involved in 44,708
>
> I think you confused "a lot of" with "a few"

The number of range fires would be reduced dramatically by moving to induction ranges. As far as I can see, there's no way to start a grease fire with one of those. People in the future will consider gas and conventional electric ranges as remarkably hazardous. OTOH, cooking in the future might involve printing foods on a 3-D printer and microwaving it.

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 4:29:06 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
> >My old microwave oven finally gave up the ghost after service for over thirty years. There are mixed reviews of Panasonic's line of microwave ovens with the inverter technology.
> >I ordered a Panasonic regular mid-sized model on sale for $119.00 CAD.
> >Have any of you with the new inverter technology experienced any problems? I liked the concept of the new models but repair record was a bit iffy and it scared me off choosing one.
> >====
>
> I have the over-the-stove one that ten years ago was around $400. It
> also serves as the extractor. I love the inverter setting on mine, I
> use it for things like melting butter so there isn't spatter all over
> the oven. I did have one hitch, steam from the stove most likely,
> caused a solder in the panel to spring but it took seconds to fix and
> the rest of the time has been hassle free. I also like the power
> setting where I can adjust it, great for cooking fish.

I understand the inverter technology works fine in the ovens...the quarrel seems to be the quality and design of metal in the switches, doors and trim of the Panasonic brand.
Different parts are going bad especially after the warranty period lapses.

I cancelled my order for a new microwave oven and got my trusty rivet gun and put mine back together. Works fine now so will wait until it finally disintegrates before I contemplate a new one.

Thanks to all who commented and gave of their opinions and observations.
====

On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:04:39 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:19:57 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>William wrote:
>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Jeeze, Louise. I have the same toaster oven I got as a wedding present
>>>>> >in 1989. It's a little beaten up, but what's really important is that
>>>>> >it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> what is the brand Cindy? Let me guess...General Electric?
>>>>
>>>>Black and Decker.
>>>
>>>Black and Decker bought the small appliance division of General
>>>Electric years ago, probably 20 years ago. You toaster was designed by
>>>General Electric.
>>
>>I see you moved on to toaster ovens, those are not microwave ovens.
>>Toasters and toaster ovens ovens are responsible for a lot of house
>>fires due to their propensity to turn on all by themselves and/or
>>their shut off mechanism jamming. It's wise to unplug toasters and
>>toaster ovens when not being used.
>>http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...safe/index.htm
>
>
>That's very good advice Sheldon. My wife is using our Breville Smart
>Oven more than our regular conventional oven.

I very rarely use my oven during warm weather, that'd be silly with
central air on, I save oven baking/roasting for winter. Warm weather
cooking is on the outdoor grill or light cooking on the stove top.
Which reminds me I still haven't got my new Weber assembled... it's
been too hot and/or rainy or I've been busy buttoning up late summer
chores... I'll get to it on a cool fall day.