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Who Decided that Food Needs to be Exposed to Fire before it's eaten.
With a few exceptions, almost everything we eat is exposed to fire in some form or other. WHY?????? Ok, I would not want to eat raw meat, but why must we cook (use fire) on vegetables, fruits, grains, and so on? Personally, I hate cooking, and cooking is all about exposing food to fire. Its not the fire that I hate, it's the fact that food burns, gets stuck to pots and pans, and requires precise timing and control of the flames. Something I have never been able to get right! If it was not for restaurants, I'd live on salads and other raw fruit and veggies. |
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On 9/2/2016 10:44 PM, wrote:
> Personally, I hate cooking I guess you're on the wrong newsgroup. Jill |
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:25:16 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >In article >, ost >says... >> Time to reinstate the AIOE server ban. Mine was never uninstated. (Disinstated? Is that a word?) And it doesn't work on the message in question: <troll.headers> Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: TKghX/mglWkVW1qxlGBsyg.user.gioia.aioe.org </troll.headers> -- Bob The joint that time is out of www.kanyak.com |
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On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 5:45:40 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> Who Decided that Food Needs to be Exposed to Fire before it's eaten. > With a few exceptions, almost everything we eat is exposed to fire in > some form or other. WHY?????? > > Ok, I would not want to eat raw meat, but why must we cook (use fire) on > vegetables, fruits, grains, and so on? > > Personally, I hate cooking, and cooking is all about exposing food to > fire. Its not the fire that I hate, it's the fact that food burns, gets > stuck to pots and pans, and requires precise timing and control of the > flames. Something I have never been able to get right! > > If it was not for restaurants, I'd live on salads and other raw fruit > and veggies. You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 5:45:40 PM UTC-10, wrote: > Who Decided that Food Needs to be Exposed to Fire before it's eaten. > With a few exceptions, almost everything we eat is exposed to fire in > some form or other. WHY?????? > > Ok, I would not want to eat raw meat, but why must we cook (use fire) on > vegetables, fruits, grains, and so on? > > Personally, I hate cooking, and cooking is all about exposing food to > fire. Its not the fire that I hate, it's the fact that food burns, gets > stuck to pots and pans, and requires precise timing and control of the > flames. Something I have never been able to get right! > > If it was not for restaurants, I'd live on salads and other raw fruit > and veggies. You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() ========= Hey talking about your future predictions, did you predict that a car could inform other similar cars of free parking spots??? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ars-fleet.html -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 9/3/2016 2:15 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() > I can wait. Given a choice between a thick ribeye steak cooked over a hot fire and microwaved food, I'm taking the steak. |
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On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 8:41:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 5:45:40 PM UTC-10, wrote: > > Who Decided that Food Needs to be Exposed to Fire before it's eaten. > > With a few exceptions, almost everything we eat is exposed to fire in > > some form or other. WHY?????? > > > > Ok, I would not want to eat raw meat, but why must we cook (use fire) on > > vegetables, fruits, grains, and so on? > > > > Personally, I hate cooking, and cooking is all about exposing food to > > fire. Its not the fire that I hate, it's the fact that food burns, gets > > stuck to pots and pans, and requires precise timing and control of the > > flames. Something I have never been able to get right! > > > > If it was not for restaurants, I'd live on salads and other raw fruit > > and veggies. > > You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and > microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic > radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() > ========= > > Hey talking about your future predictions, did you predict that a car could > inform other similar cars of free parking spots??? > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ars-fleet.html > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk What I said is that the cars will be networking with each other and relaying information within the network. This should reduce the reliance on sensors needed by an individual car and will enable the cars in the network to act as a single entity which will probably increase the efficiency of the system. Connectivity is going to be a thing in the future. We need to have a universal networking protocol that allows my toaster to talk to my car or washing machine. OTOH, my guess is that those Mercedes won't be sharing any parking info with cars they consider inferior. ![]() |
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On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 9:08:08 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/3/2016 2:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() > > > > I can wait. Given a choice between a thick ribeye steak cooked over a > hot fire and microwaved food, I'm taking the steak. What you say is true however, in the future, that choice will not be an option. We are rapidly approaching the end of man's association/partnership with meat. |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 8:41:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 5:45:40 PM UTC-10, wrote: > > Who Decided that Food Needs to be Exposed to Fire before it's eaten. > > With a few exceptions, almost everything we eat is exposed to fire in > > some form or other. WHY?????? > > > > Ok, I would not want to eat raw meat, but why must we cook (use fire) on > > vegetables, fruits, grains, and so on? > > > > Personally, I hate cooking, and cooking is all about exposing food to > > fire. Its not the fire that I hate, it's the fact that food burns, gets > > stuck to pots and pans, and requires precise timing and control of the > > flames. Something I have never been able to get right! > > > > If it was not for restaurants, I'd live on salads and other raw fruit > > and veggies. > > You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and > microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic > radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() > ========= > > Hey talking about your future predictions, did you predict that a car > could > inform other similar cars of free parking spots??? > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ars-fleet.html > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk What I said is that the cars will be networking with each other and relaying information within the network. This should reduce the reliance on sensors needed by an individual car and will enable the cars in the network to act as a single entity which will probably increase the efficiency of the system. Connectivity is going to be a thing in the future. We need to have a universal networking protocol that allows my toaster to talk to my car or washing machine. OTOH, my guess is that those Mercedes won't be sharing any parking info with cars they consider inferior. ![]() ================== LOL I never thought of that ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 10:10:00 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 9:08:08 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > On 9/3/2016 2:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() > > > > > > > > > > I can wait. Given a choice between a thick ribeye steak cooked over a > > > hot fire and microwaved food, I'm taking the steak. > > > > What you say is true however, in the future, that choice will not be an option. We are rapidly approaching the end of man's association/partnership with meat. > > I think it's more likely that meat will come from factories, where it > grows independently, without the need of an animal's brain and therefore > without any suffering. It might even taste better than today's factory > meat that comes with the management inconvenience that there's a whole > animal attached to it. I can't say which way we're going to go with this. We may grow meat without the animal as an interim step. My guess is that we'll eventually find some faster way of making the stuff or forego it completely. I, for one, don't think it's nice to kill an animal for meat - just don't put a nicely aged and grilled medium rare porterhouse in front of me. God knows what may happen. |
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On 9/3/2016 3:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/3/2016 2:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> >> You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and >> microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic >> radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() >> > > I can wait. Given a choice between a thick ribeye steak cooked over a > hot fire and microwaved food, I'm taking the steak. I'm with you, Ed. I do not want to eat food that is manufactured by a 3-D printer. Gee, that certainly LOOKS like a bowl of broccoli. Just give me the broccoli instead. Jill |
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On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 11:31:44 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 8:41:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > > You're in luck - in the future, we'll be 3-D printing our foods and > > > microwaving it. No fire involved - unless you consider electromagnetic > > > radiation to be "fire." I can't wait! ![]() > > > ========= > > > > > > Hey talking about your future predictions, did you predict that a car could > > > inform other similar cars of free parking spots??? > > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ars-fleet.html > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > > > What I said is that the cars will be networking with each other and relaying information within the network. This should reduce the reliance on sensors needed by an individual car and will enable the cars in the network to act as a single entity which will probably increase the efficiency of the system. > > > > Connectivity is going to be a thing in the future. We need to have a universal networking protocol that allows my toaster to talk to my car or washing machine. OTOH, my guess is that those Mercedes won't be sharing any parking info with cars they consider inferior. ![]() > > IoE, the Internet of Everything: > > http://ioeassessment.cisco.com/ These days, even hearing aids talk to each other. |
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 00:08:08 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 9/2/2016 10:44 PM, wrote: >> Personally, I hate cooking > >I guess you're on the wrong newsgroup. Wouldn't be the only one here in that category. |
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 21:20:35 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>Yesterday on Science Friday, there was a segment on a company developing >"healthy fat" from mealworms, including plans for a "mealworm butter." Given the poor track record on what science regards as healthy and unhealhty fats, I think I'll pass ![]() |
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l not -l wrote:
> > There was even mention of a cricket flour There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() |
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On 9/4/2016 9:06 AM, Gary wrote:
> l not -l wrote: >> >> There was even mention of a cricket flour > > There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that > on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a > cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() > Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's maddening! Jill |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > On 9/4/2016 9:06 AM, Gary wrote: > > l not -l wrote: > >> > >> There was even mention of a cricket flour > > > > There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that > > on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a > > cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() > > > Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's > maddening! Oh hell yes. When I was married, we lived on the ground floor. Crickets would get inside and be totally silent until the middle of the night. *******s. Once they started chirping, I had to move furniture to catch them. Once I found, caught, and flushed, I was wide awake and it was hard to get back to sleep. I hated those things. ![]() |
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On 9/4/2016 9:23 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >> >> On 9/4/2016 9:06 AM, Gary wrote: >>> l not -l wrote: >>>> >>>> There was even mention of a cricket flour >>> >>> There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that >>> on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a >>> cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() >>> >> Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's >> maddening! > > Oh hell yes. When I was married, we lived on the ground floor. Crickets > would get inside and be totally silent until the middle of the night. > *******s. Once they started chirping, I had to move furniture to catch > them. Once I found, caught, and flushed, I was wide awake and it was > hard to get back to sleep. I hated those things. ![]() > I had that problem occasionally when I lived in my ground floor apartment in Cordova. How did you ever find it? They stop chirping when you turn on the light. Turn it off and try to go back to sleep and from some obscure corner... chirp! Dammit! I have yet to see a brown cricket (what I know as crickets) here in SC. There are plenty of noisy bugs (cicadas?) and tree frogs that make a racket at night but they stay outside in the trees. The wacky hippy types who want to make flour out of crickets are just that... wacky. Jill |
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On 9/4/2016 9:16 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's > maddening! Just like birds, the smaller they are, the louder! The noise a teeny cricket that can hide anywhere makes is crazy. And they're impossible to find. nancy |
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![]() "Gary" > wrote in message ... >l not -l wrote: >> >> There was even mention of a cricket flour > > There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that > on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a > cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() And some of the techies are eating the crickets as healthy snacks according the paper a few days ago. They can have mine. ![]() Cheri |
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![]() "Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > On 9/4/2016 9:16 AM, jmcquown wrote: > >> Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's >> maddening! > > Just like birds, the smaller they are, the louder! The noise > a teeny cricket that can hide anywhere makes is crazy. And > they're impossible to find. > > nancy That's what noise machines are for. Drown the little buggers out. ![]() Cheri |
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On 2016-09-04 9:23 AM, Gary wrote:
> Oh hell yes. When I was married, we lived on the ground floor. Crickets > would get inside and be totally silent until the middle of the night. > *******s. Once they started chirping, I had to move furniture to catch > them. Once I found, caught, and flushed, I was wide awake and it was > hard to get back to sleep. I hated those things. ![]() My in-laws lived in an apartment after they sold their house and when MiL died FiL moved into a single bedroom unit. All was great for a couple months.... until there was a cricket. It kept him awake until late at night and often woke him up. He spent a lot of time looking for that thing, but it was hard because it only chirped occasionally. He ended up calling the super. It turned out to be the low battery warning on the smoke detector. |
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On 9/4/2016 11:09 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/4/2016 9:16 AM, jmcquown wrote: > >> Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's >> maddening! > > Just like birds, the smaller they are, the louder! The noise > a teeny cricket that can hide anywhere makes is crazy. And > they're impossible to find. > > nancy > Yep, small birds often have the loudest voice. They are often unseen, as well. Chuck Will's Widows and Whipoorwhills. They are teeny tiny birds, you have to be a real birder to spot one. Next month, when things cool off, there will be an influx of birds that are migrating south. I had crickets occasionally get into my apartment in Cordova. Completely silent until you turn off the light... chirrrp. Turn the light on, good luck trying to find the damn thing. Unlike Gary, I wasn't going to toss the bedroom furniture around just to try to find it. I just went back to bed and hoped like hell it would shut up. Jill |
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On 9/4/2016 11:56 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-09-04 9:23 AM, Gary wrote: > >> Oh hell yes. When I was married, we lived on the ground floor. Crickets >> would get inside and be totally silent until the middle of the night. >> *******s. Once they started chirping, I had to move furniture to catch >> them. Once I found, caught, and flushed, I was wide awake and it was >> hard to get back to sleep. I hated those things. ![]() > > My in-laws lived in an apartment after they sold their house and when > MiL died FiL moved into a single bedroom unit. All was great for a > couple months.... until there was a cricket. It kept him awake until > late at night and often woke him up. He spent a lot of time looking for > that thing, but it was hard because it only chirped occasionally. He > ended up calling the super. It turned out to be the low battery warning > on the smoke detector. > > Well, that was an oops! Jill |
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On 9/4/2016 11:54 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote in message > ... >> On 9/4/2016 9:16 AM, jmcquown wrote: >> >>> Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? It's >>> maddening! >> >> Just like birds, the smaller they are, the louder! The noise >> a teeny cricket that can hide anywhere makes is crazy. And >> they're impossible to find. >> >> nancy > > That's what noise machines are for. Drown the little buggers out. ![]() > > Cheri > Yep, I have one of those, too. A cricket in the bedroom is unfortunately difficult to drown out. Especially since the noise machine offers a sound that is hmmmm, frogs and crickets. LOL Jill |
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On 9/4/2016 11:58 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/4/2016 11:09 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >> Just like birds, the smaller they are, the louder! The noise >> a teeny cricket that can hide anywhere makes is crazy. And >> they're impossible to find. > Yep, small birds often have the loudest voice. They are often unseen, > as well. Chuck Will's Widows and Whipoorwhills. They are teeny tiny > birds, you have to be a real birder to spot one. There will be an eardrum piercing call and you'd think there is a huge bird around and out pops a teeny Carolina wren. > Next month, when things cool off, there will be an influx of birds that > are migrating south. > > I had crickets occasionally get into my apartment in Cordova. Completely > silent until you turn off the light... chirrrp. Turn the light on, good > luck trying to find the damn thing. Unlike Gary, I wasn't going to toss > the bedroom furniture around just to try to find it. I just went back > to bed and hoped like hell it would shut up. They can be hard to ignore. We haven't had the little ones this year. We seem to get a different kind every year, last year was the creepy Chinese humpback ones, this year it's the black ones. Just enough to amuse the cat. nancy |
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On 9/4/2016 11:53 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> l not -l wrote: >>> >>> There was even mention of a cricket flour >> >> There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that >> on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a >> cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() > > And some of the techies are eating the crickets as healthy snacks > according the paper a few days ago. They can have mine. ![]() > > Cheri Mmmm, healthy crunchy bugs. No thanks! I'll stick with occasional potato chips. ![]() Jill |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 9/4/2016 11:54 AM, Cheri wrote: >> >> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 9/4/2016 9:16 AM, jmcquown wrote: >>> >>>> Ever try to sleep with a cricket chirping somewhere in your house? >>>> It's >>>> maddening! >>> >>> Just like birds, the smaller they are, the louder! The noise >>> a teeny cricket that can hide anywhere makes is crazy. And >>> they're impossible to find. >>> >>> nancy >> >> That's what noise machines are for. Drown the little buggers out. ![]() >> >> Cheri >> > Yep, I have one of those, too. A cricket in the bedroom is unfortunately > difficult to drown out. Especially since the noise machine offers a sound > that is hmmmm, frogs and crickets. LOL > > Jill I have mine set to deep rain, but yes...frogs and crickets. LOL Cheri |
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On 9/4/2016 11:53 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> l not -l wrote: >>> >>> There was even mention of a cricket flour >> >> There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that >> on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a >> cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() > > And some of the techies are eating the crickets as healthy snacks > according the paper a few days ago. They can have mine. ![]() > > Cheri Insects are normal food in many parts of the world. I'm glad to live here though. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 9/4/2016 11:53 AM, Cheri wrote: >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >>> l not -l wrote: >>>> >>>> There was even mention of a cricket flour >>> >>> There is a bakery in the SF Bay Area that uses cricket flour. Saw that >>> on "Bizarre Foods" episode once. Bunch of damn hippies is all. It's a >>> cricket holocaust and everyone thinks thats a good thing. lol ![]() >> >> And some of the techies are eating the crickets as healthy snacks >> according the paper a few days ago. They can have mine. ![]() >> >> Cheri > > Insects are normal food in many parts of the world. I'm glad to live here > though. Yes, many people in other parts of the world eat dogs and cats too, but I'm not going to, and glad that we live here and have laws against that too, even though I'm sure that some would be hard to catch doing it. Cheri |
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