In article >,
says...
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 9:46:30 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >> On 9/8/2016 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Not at all, in fact a female singer having a hot bod detracts from her
> > >> >> performance, the audience would be looking/gawking rather than
> > >> >> listening. Aretha Franklin wasn't a head turner but her audience
> > >> >> wasn't concerned with how she looked. Sammy's Davis Jr's looks didn't
> > >> >> prevent his becoming a super star. Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
> > >> >> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
> > >> >
> > >> > I can see you don't know anything about the popular music business since
> > >> > the inception of the music video.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > All I need to know is that what's called music nowadays ain't... and
> > lectric geetars and keyboards ain't musical instruments.
>
> The BUSINESS of music, Sheldon. Not the music itself. It's as if
> you never pick up a newspaper.

Newspapers aren't what they used to be when Sheldon had a newspaper run
in Brooklyn NY for a nickel and a tit squeeze per newspaper.

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 10:51:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > dsi1yahoo.com says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 1:30:04 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sad, actually, that a slick video on MTV means more than a
> > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > voice.
> > > > > > > Not to mention what gets classified as lyrics in some of the
> > > > > > > rap
> > > > > > > crap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ============
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rap isn't singing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I absolutely hate/detest "rap". Whenever I happen upon one of
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > zombies and their mindless "rap", I can't switch channels fast
> > > > > > enough. Stupid TV hosts go GAGA over these idiots and their
> > > > > > drooling
> > > > > > monotony.
> > > > > > =====
> > > > >
> > > > > You're not supposed to like any music/lifestyle that the kids like
> > > > > if
> > > > > you're over the age of 40 - that's the rules.
> > > >
> > > > That's it. Old people bitching about rap is as predictable as the
> > > > reaction of a couple of gangsta rappers to the Mattheus Passion.
> > >
> > > Yes, things are progressing exactly as we have planned. It's like
> > > shooting
> > > rats in a barrel.
> >
> > Yes, it's very reassuring when everybody stays in character.
> >
> > Roy, care to share your feelings about death grunting?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIX2vISe3M
> > ===========
> >
> > Sounds like 'Heavy Metal' )
>
> Yes, but did you last until the singing started at 20 seconds into it?
>
>
> =======
>
> There was singing???

Good question Does that mean you made it to the death grunting?

> Just 20 seconds eh? )

Well, that's when the real fun starts.

===========

Enjoy)



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On 9/10/2016 3:06 AM, Bruce wrote:

>
> Roy, care to share your feelings about death grunting?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIX2vISe3M
>

I enjoy different types of music and understand that others may not like
my choices. I cannot, however, understand that anyone can call that
music, or art, or entertainment, or anything that a human would create.

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 1:06:16 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 10:51:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > dsi1yahoo.com says...
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 1:30:04 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sad, actually, that a slick video on MTV means more than a great voice.
> > > > > > Not to mention what gets classified as lyrics in some of the rap crap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ============
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rap isn't singing
> > > > > >
> > > > > I absolutely hate/detest "rap". Whenever I happen upon one of those zombies and their mindless "rap", I can't switch channels fast enough. Stupid TV hosts go GAGA over these idiots and their drooling monotony.
> > > > > =====
> > > >
> > > > You're not supposed to like any music/lifestyle that the kids like if you're over the age of 40 - that's the rules.
> > >
> > > That's it. Old people bitching about rap is as predictable as the
> > > reaction of a couple of gangsta rappers to the Mattheus Passion.
> >
> > Yes, things are progressing exactly as we have planned. It's like shooting rats in a barrel.
>
> Yes, it's very reassuring when everybody stays in character.
>
> Roy, care to share your feelings about death grunting?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIX2vISe3M

Figures that YOU would like shite like that.
====

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/10/2016 3:06 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >
> > Roy, care to share your feelings about death grunting?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIX2vISe3M
> >
>
> I enjoy different types of music and understand that others may not like
> my choices. I cannot, however, understand that anyone can call that
> music, or art, or entertainment, or anything that a human would create.

That music must come from some form of disgruntlement, that I'm happy
not to suffer from.

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:17:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-09-09 5:57 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:47:47 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It is one of the great mysteries of the age. It isn't really singing
>>> because they are just... rapping. Some sort of afrocentric whining
>>> about social conditions in their community and their street cred, a
>>> bunch of finger gestures and crotch grabbing. I suppose maybe some of
>>> the words sound like they rhyhme... in ebonics.
>>
>> I kinda enjoyed rap back around 1979. But at that time there were only
>> a few bands (yes, bands) doing it and it didn't have that mindless
>> retarded attitude we are so familiar with today. I never thought it
>> would take off like it did, I thought it would be a passing fad since
>> it is so limited in scope... but take off it did. I have no time or
>> tolerance for what it has become since those early days. It's just so
>> mindless and so, so very repetitive and one-dimensional.
>>
>
>I may be getting old, but I listen to a wide range of music.

I know I certainly do, my tastes are quite eclectic. Not particularly
mainstream though. Well, not very much at all, actually. Very rare I
like something that is popular.

> I find rap
>music<?> to have such a sameness that exceeds that of reggae and bluegrass.

I'd add country music to that, although the meaning of 'country' is
pretty broad these days.

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 4:07:50 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:17:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-09-09 5:57 PM, Je?us wrote:
> >> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:47:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is one of the great mysteries of the age. It isn't really singing
> >>> because they are just... rapping. Some sort of afrocentric whining
> >>> about social conditions in their community and their street cred, a
> >>> bunch of finger gestures and crotch grabbing. I suppose maybe some of
> >>> the words sound like they rhyhme... in ebonics.
> >>
> >> I kinda enjoyed rap back around 1979. But at that time there were only
> >> a few bands (yes, bands) doing it and it didn't have that mindless
> >> retarded attitude we are so familiar with today. I never thought it
> >> would take off like it did, I thought it would be a passing fad since
> >> it is so limited in scope... but take off it did. I have no time or
> >> tolerance for what it has become since those early days. It's just so
> >> mindless and so, so very repetitive and one-dimensional.
> >>
> >
> >I may be getting old, but I listen to a wide range of music.
>
> I know I certainly do, my tastes are quite eclectic. Not particularly
> mainstream though. Well, not very much at all, actually. Very rare I
> like something that is popular.
>
> > I find rap
> >music<?> to have such a sameness that exceeds that of reggae and bluegrass.
>
> I'd add country music to that, although the meaning of 'country' is
> pretty broad these days.

I like melody too much to appreciate rap.

Cindy Hamilton

On 9/10/2016 1:31 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 4:07:50 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:17:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-09-09 5:57 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:47:47 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is one of the great mysteries of the age. It isn't really singing
>>>>> because they are just... rapping. Some sort of afrocentric whining
>>>>> about social conditions in their community and their street cred, a
>>>>> bunch of finger gestures and crotch grabbing. I suppose maybe some of
>>>>> the words sound like they rhyhme... in ebonics.
>>>>
>>>> I kinda enjoyed rap back around 1979. But at that time there were only
>>>> a few bands (yes, bands) doing it and it didn't have that mindless
>>>> retarded attitude we are so familiar with today. I never thought it
>>>> would take off like it did, I thought it would be a passing fad since
>>>> it is so limited in scope... but take off it did. I have no time or
>>>> tolerance for what it has become since those early days. It's just so
>>>> mindless and so, so very repetitive and one-dimensional.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I may be getting old, but I listen to a wide range of music.
>>
>> I know I certainly do, my tastes are quite eclectic. Not particularly
>> mainstream though. Well, not very much at all, actually. Very rare I
>> like something that is popular.
>>
>>> I find rap
>>> music<?> to have such a sameness that exceeds that of reggae and bluegrass.
>>
>> I'd add country music to that, although the meaning of 'country' is
>> pretty broad these days.
>
> I like melody too much to appreciate rap.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


Bingo! Well said.

On 2016-09-10 4:07 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:17:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:

>> I may be getting old, but I listen to a wide range of music.
>
> I know I certainly do, my tastes are quite eclectic. Not particularly
> mainstream though. Well, not very much at all, actually. Very rare I
> like something that is popular.


It must be difficult to be in the music business these days. It doesn't
seem like that long ago that there were a small number of radio stations
playing the top 100 or so. I know there are a lot more stations now
because I occasionally use the auto scan. I can't tell you much about
the content because most of the time I land on a station in the middle
of a blaring commercial, which generally makes me automatically flip to
another station. Thank goodness my car stereo has a CD player, a USB
port and an auxiliary socket. When the radio gets tiresome I switch to
pre-recorded music. I have more than 50 albums burned and copied to each
of two memory sticks plus one with comedy podcasts.
>
>> I find rap
>> music<?> to have such a sameness that exceeds that of reggae and bluegrass.
>
> I'd add country music to that, although the meaning of 'country' is
> pretty broad these days.

It's basically bad rock and roll with country themes and played by
people who dress up western.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:47:11 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-09-10 4:07 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:17:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>
>>> I may be getting old, but I listen to a wide range of music.
>>
>> I know I certainly do, my tastes are quite eclectic. Not particularly
>> mainstream though. Well, not very much at all, actually. Very rare I
>> like something that is popular.
>
>
>It must be difficult to be in the music business these days.

It is if you try to play the sucker's game - that being relying on
mainstream media and record companies for your career.

In some ways things have never been better for aspiring musicians
these days, what with the Internet. Plenty of artists out there that
'nobody' has ever heard of, and yet make reasonably good livings.

>It doesn't
>seem like that long ago that there were a small number of radio stations
>playing the top 100 or so. I know there are a lot more stations now
>because I occasionally use the auto scan.

A lot more stations but far fewer independents (or almost none, now).
Clear Channel owns practically all stations in the U.S, for example.

>I can't tell you much about
>the content because most of the time I land on a station in the middle
>of a blaring commercial, which generally makes me automatically flip to
>another station. Thank goodness my car stereo has a CD player, a USB
>port and an auxiliary socket.

I listen to the (non-commerical) ABC stations here, otherwise the good
old USB save the day here too. I quite simply can't listen or watch
anything with ads, whether on TV or radio.

>When the radio gets tiresome I switch to
>pre-recorded music. I have more than 50 albums burned and copied to each
>of two memory sticks plus one with comedy podcasts.

I have a huge comedy collection here which took me about 15 years to
aquire Also about 6 TB of lossless music on the PC, which goes
through a high end DAC to my hifi. It's easy to copy these files over
to a USB stick for the cars.

Right now I'm listening to this podcast:
http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs...harris/7759998
Especially interesing for me as I'm also an Aspie.

In article >, Jeßus
> wrote:

> Gratuitous swearing (or profanity, if you prefer). I don't necessarily
> mind hearing the 'f' word in music but it needs to be used artfully,
> much like any other word and not just for the sake of it. I'm baffled
> what people get out of rap.

I agree. When I look for the artful use of the 'f' word, I look to
Kevin "Bloody" Wilson. How about you? For those unfamiliar with this
Australian artist, just search youtube for "kevin bloody wilson" and
listen to the pure poetry of the 'f' word in its every form.
I'm not going to provide a link. That would be cruel to the sensitive
and easily offended among us.

leo

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> In article >, Jeßus
> > wrote:
>
> > Gratuitous swearing (or profanity, if you prefer). I don't necessarily
> > mind hearing the 'f' word in music but it needs to be used artfully,
> > much like any other word and not just for the sake of it. I'm baffled
> > what people get out of rap.
>
> I agree. When I look for the artful use of the 'f' word, I look to
> Kevin "Bloody" Wilson. How about you? For those unfamiliar with this
> Australian artist, just search youtube for "kevin bloody wilson" and
> listen to the pure poetry of the 'f' word in its every form.

You see his work as artistic? LMAO. Pure poetry?
Artful use of the 'f' word? really?

I checked out 4 song lyrics by him. What a joke this weirdo is.
And you think he's nifty and an "artist?"
That makes YOU a joke.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:05:59 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus
> wrote:
>
>> Gratuitous swearing (or profanity, if you prefer). I don't necessarily
>> mind hearing the 'f' word in music but it needs to be used artfully,
>> much like any other word and not just for the sake of it. I'm baffled
>> what people get out of rap.
>
>I agree. When I look for the artful use of the 'f' word, I look to
>Kevin "Bloody" Wilson. How about you? For those unfamiliar with this
>Australian artist, just search youtube for "kevin bloody wilson" and
>listen to the pure poetry of the 'f' word in its every form.
>I'm not going to provide a link. That would be cruel to the sensitive
>and easily offended among us.

LOL, are you serious?

In article >, Gary > wrote:

> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >
> > I agree. When I look for the artful use of the 'f' word, I look to
> > Kevin "Bloody" Wilson. How about you? For those unfamiliar with this
> > Australian artist, just search youtube for "kevin bloody wilson" and
> > listen to the pure poetry of the 'f' word in its every form.

> You see his work as artistic? LMAO. Pure poetry?
> Artful use of the 'f' word? really?
>
> I checked out 4 song lyrics by him. What a joke this weirdo is.
> And you think he's nifty and an "artist?"
> That makes YOU a joke.

Do me a favor and please google:
"definition irony"
and
"definition burlesque"

My point, missed by the slower among us, was, and I'm going to shout
this now for the dimmest posters here,
***THERE IS NO ARTFUL USE OF THE "F" WORD!***
Get it fool?

leo