In article >, says...
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tell me who the aging female musicians are ?
>
> Just few days ago I watched a bit of the Joan Baez 75th birthday concert
> on PBS. Disturbing. And she also had ancient Paul Simon with her on
> stage. Only PBS would show this worthless outdated nonsense. And
> naturally, PBS was also begging for money constantly during that show.
> PBS doesn't do commercials. Instead, they take that time to beg for
> donations.
>
> I don't want to hear all the "old" songs performed by Granny Joan and
> Grampa Paul.

Then you need better television over there; or shell out for a concert
ticket. We went to a Paul Simon concert in Glasgow two years ago; he was
begged to sing the old favourites of course but he's still writing new
songs and has just brought out a new album, Stranger to Stranger.

Paul sings for the undeserving Gary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVM_mN1StPg

Janet.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:16:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > A man's appearance is never
> > > picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
> >
> > Probably because men just age better.
> > Case in point....Sean Connery
> > - looked like a dork in the old James Bond movies
>
> Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
> he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
> better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
> photos, and he is quite durable.

Did you know he used to beat up his wife?

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:25:02 +1000, Bruce >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Are you all too old to appreciate pop/rock music? Is that what
this is?
> >> >Do you also hate aging female musicians?
> >>
> >> Tell me who the aging female musicians are ?
> >
> > Dolly Parton,70
> > Cleo Laine, 90
> > Aretha Franklin 74
> > Barbara Streisand 74
> > Carol King 74
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> And Diana Ross 73

And if the Spice Girls hadn't split up, they might still have been
touring in 30 years.

On 9/8/2016 1:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:25:02 +1000, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you all too old to appreciate pop/rock music? Is that what
> this is?
>>>>> Do you also hate aging female musicians?
>>>>
>>>> Tell me who the aging female musicians are ?
>>>
>>> Dolly Parton,70
>>> Cleo Laine, 90
>>> Aretha Franklin 74
>>> Barbara Streisand 74
>>> Carol King 74
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> And Diana Ross 73
>
> And if the Spice Girls hadn't split up, they might still have been
> touring in 30 years.
>


That was just to make their getting back together tour a bigger success.

On 9/8/2016 1:22 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:25:02 +1000, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article >,
>>> says...
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 5:56:12 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>>> >> >> > wrote in message
>>> >> >> ...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Keith Richards, top of the list, saw him the other day and he
>>> >> >> > looks
>>> >> >> > completely pickled and cast in stone, urrgh
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> They all look like warmed over death these days, but I still
>>> love >> >> their
>>> >> >> music.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Cheri
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I'd love it if they would start to play music instead of that
>>> crass >> >garbage they put out.
>>> >> >====
>>> >>
>>> >> Good lord Roy ! You're looking for them to be musicians, they never
>>> >> were and they never will be. They lucked in on one theme and have
>>> >> flogged it ever since. Hope it's strenuous these days for Jagger to
>>> >> prance around the stage with an old fashioned mike.
>>> >
>>> >Are you all too old to appreciate pop/rock music? Is that what this is?
>>> >Do you also hate aging female musicians?
>>>
>>> Tell me who the aging female musicians are ?
>>
>> Dolly Parton,70
>> Cleo Laine, 90
>> Aretha Franklin 74
>> Barbara Streisand 74
>> Carol King 74
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> And Diana Ross 73

And Kiri te Kanawa 72.
Graham

On 9/8/2016 2:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:25:02 +1000, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you all too old to appreciate pop/rock music? Is that what
> this is?
>>>>> Do you also hate aging female musicians?
>>>>
>>>> Tell me who the aging female musicians are ?
>>>
>>> Dolly Parton,70
>>> Cleo Laine, 90
>>> Aretha Franklin 74
>>> Barbara Streisand 74
>>> Carol King 74
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> And Diana Ross 73
>
> And if the Spice Girls hadn't split up, they might still have been
> touring in 30 years.
>
Incidentally, has anyone seen that one married to Beckham ever smile?
Graham

On 9/8/2016 4:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

>> Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
>> he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
>> better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
>> photos, and he is quite durable.
>
> Did you know he used to beat up his wife?

Only when she needed it.

nancy

On 9/8/2016 2:32 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/8/2016 4:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>
>>> Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
>>> he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
>>> better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
>>> photos, and he is quite durable.
>>
>> Did you know he used to beat up his wife?
>
> Only when she needed it.
>
> nancy
>

but an ounce of prevention . . .

On 9/8/2016 1:18 AM, Je�us wrote:

>>> ==========
>> But he has made a lot of people a lot of money as well, so that's not a bad
>> thing.
>
> That's hard to know for sure. Plenty of people have made 'lots' of
> money in the music biz, only to have it eaten away by various
> parasites. Net result is often they're broke but 'rich'.
>

Just because you make a lot of money does not mean you know how to
handle it. I read an article recently about the many million dollar
sport figures that one out of six is broke in a four years. They often
have advisors that have their hands deep in their pockets too.

On 9/8/2016 2:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/8/2016 1:18 AM, Je�us wrote:
>
>>>> ==========
>>> But he has made a lot of people a lot of money as well, so that's not
>>> a bad
>>> thing.
>>
>> That's hard to know for sure. Plenty of people have made 'lots' of
>> money in the music biz, only to have it eaten away by various
>> parasites. Net result is often they're broke but 'rich'.
>>
>
> Just because you make a lot of money does not mean you know how to
> handle it. I read an article recently about the many million dollar
> sport figures that one out of six is broke in a four years. They often
> have advisors that have their hands deep in their pockets too.


But I thought those guys all got good grades in their college business
classes.

On 9/8/2016 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Not at all, in fact a female singer having a hot bod detracts from her
>> performance, the audience would be looking/gawking rather than
>> listening. Aretha Franklin wasn't a head turner but her audience
>> wasn't concerned with how she looked. Sammy's Davis Jr's looks didn't
>> prevent his becoming a super star. Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
>> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
>
> I can see you don't know anything about the popular music business since the
> inception of the music video.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Sad, actually, that a slick video on MTV means more than a great voice.
Not to mention what gets classified as lyrics in some of the rap crap.

On 9/8/2016 5:21 PM, graham wrote:

> Incidentally, has anyone seen that one married to Beckham ever smile?
>
Botox can make that difficult.

On 9/8/2016 6:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I'm not one of those second- or third-wave feminists who blames
> everything on the male hegemony, but it seems obvious that for
> women in public life, looks matter (notwithstanding my earlier
> comment which implied without stating outright that I don't care
> what a good singer looks like). A man's appearance is never
> picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Well it should be. If you ever saw the "Men of RFC" gallery you would
see why we deserve only hot looking women at our side. As a group it
would be difficult to find a more ruggedly handsome cast of characters
as us.

On 9/8/2016 9:19 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> I don't want to hear all the "old" songs performed by Granny Joan and
> Grampa Paul. Actually, they sounded fine, I just didn't want to see that
> crap. And those shows are always the old songs. Since these has-beens
> are still performing after all these years, did they not write any good
> NEW songs? No, they just lived off of royalties until they ran out of
> money. Now they bank on the nostalgia to keep alive. Notice the audience
> on these presentations. All old people. hahaha
>

Some of us old (but sill ruggedly handsome) old farts like some of the
old songs. Yes, some should retire but others still put on a good
show. Eric Clapton was pretty good.

I still appreciate Beethoven and he has not written any NEW music either.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/8/2016 4:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
>
> >> Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
> >> he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
> >> better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
> >> photos, and he is quite durable.
> >
> > Did you know he used to beat up his wife?
>
> Only when she needed it.

So he was a gentleman after all.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/8/2016 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> Not at all, in fact a female singer having a hot bod detracts from her
> >> performance, the audience would be looking/gawking rather than
> >> listening. Aretha Franklin wasn't a head turner but her audience
> >> wasn't concerned with how she looked. Sammy's Davis Jr's looks didn't
> >> prevent his becoming a super star. Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
> >> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
> >
> > I can see you don't know anything about the popular music business since the
> > inception of the music video.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Sad, actually, that a slick video on MTV means more than a great voice.
> Not to mention what gets classified as lyrics in some of the rap crap.

We're just not the target audience for rap. Just like you don't expect
those rappers to appreciate Pat Boone.

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:48:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/8/2016 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> Not at all, in fact a female singer having a hot bod detracts from her
>>> performance, the audience would be looking/gawking rather than
>>> listening. Aretha Franklin wasn't a head turner but her audience
>>> wasn't concerned with how she looked. Sammy's Davis Jr's looks didn't
>>> prevent his becoming a super star. Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
>>> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
>>
>> I can see you don't know anything about the popular music business since the
>> inception of the music video.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Sad, actually, that a slick video on MTV means more than a great voice.
>Not to mention what gets classified as lyrics in some of the rap crap.

Such distasteful profanity from you

On 2016-09-08 5:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/8/2016 1:18 AM, Je�us wrote:

>> That's hard to know for sure. Plenty of people have made 'lots' of
>> money in the music biz, only to have it eaten away by various
>> parasites. Net result is often they're broke but 'rich'.
>>
>
> Just because you make a lot of money does not mean you know how to
> handle it. I read an article recently about the many million dollar
> sport figures that one out of six is broke in a four years. They often
> have advisors that have their hands deep in their pockets too.

A couple years ago I saw a program about lottery winners and how their
big wins ruined their lives. It was worse for the people whose friends
and families tried their best to get their hands on the money.

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:40:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/8/2016 1:18 AM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>>> ==========
>>> But he has made a lot of people a lot of money as well, so that's not a bad
>>> thing.
>>
>> That's hard to know for sure. Plenty of people have made 'lots' of
>> money in the music biz, only to have it eaten away by various
>> parasites. Net result is often they're broke but 'rich'.
>>
>
>Just because you make a lot of money does not mean you know how to
>handle it.

For sure.

>I read an article recently about the many million dollar
>sport figures that one out of six is broke in a four years.

I suspect many get a taste for the high life and assume the money will
keep rolling in indefinitely for some unknown reason.

>They often
>have advisors that have their hands deep in their pockets too.

Yes, exactly. Often people in these situations are hopeless handling
finances. Michael Jackson is probably the best example... absolutely
insanely mega-rich but managed to spend it all.

That said, IMO (admittedly anecdotally) most who end up broke is due
to their management and misc parasitical hangers-on who fleece them.
The music biz in particular is replete with such examples.

On 2016-09-08 6:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/8/2016 9:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't want to hear all the "old" songs performed by Granny Joan
>> and Grampa Paul. Actually, they sounded fine, I just didn't want to
>> see that crap. And those shows are always the old songs. Since
>> these has-beens are still performing after all these years, did
>> they not write any good NEW songs? No, they just lived off of
>> royalties until they ran out of money. Now they bank on the
>> nostalgia to keep alive. Notice the audience on these
>> presentations. All old people. hahaha
>>
>
> Some of us old (but sill ruggedly handsome) old farts like some of
> the old songs. Yes, some should retire but others still put on a
> good show. Eric Clapton was pretty good.


It was almost exactly a year ago that I was staying at a hotel in
Newport Beach and George Benson was performing there. I was on my way
to the pool and asked my wife about the key to get into the pool area. A
nicely dressed fellow said "It's okay brother, I'll open the gate for
you". It looked and was about to ask.... but no, it couldn't be him. He
was much too young looking to be George Benson, who is in his 70s. It
was him. He looked just like the 40ish guy on Benson albums from the 80s.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:17:11 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>> >
>> Your lot are just craftily manipulated. Now the Beatles were supreme
>> musicians, their music was music and very clever.
>
>You'll get no argument from me there. The Beatles were the best of all
>time. Together and later when they broke up, John Lennon and George
>Harrison. Ringo was meh and Paul is a be-bop musician.
>
>Lennon was my "musical hero." Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" album
>was amazing.
>
>Nostalgia: I watched the Beatles when they first made their debut in
>America. The Ed Sullivan Show in 1964, I think. Notice I said that I
>watched them. I remember it being hard to hear them as during the entire
>thing, all the girls in the audience were screaming.
>
>Why do women do that? You go to see the Beatles, but then you scream
>during the entire song? wth? I guess that's a Mars/Venus thing.
>
>also more nostalgia: A few years later for Christmas, I got my first
>stereo. With it was my very first LP's. They were "Meet the Beatles" and
>the Beatles "2nd Album." I still have them both. :-D

I really loved them too - I remember sitting at an oh so formal mess
dinner and saying 'I really love the Beatles' and one of those tricks,
it fell into silence and everyone heard. There was a shocked pause
and then the Admiral said "Surely you jest?" but I remained faithful
to the cause and said No!

BTW the other day I saw an interesting interview with Ringo, he's well
preserved and has aged very handsomely, in fact looks better now than
when young

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 07:53:04 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Roy > wrote:
>>> >I'd love it if they would start to play music instead of that crass
>>> >garbage they put out.
>>> >====
>>>
>>> Good lord Roy ! You're looking for them to be musicians, they never
>>> were and they never will be. They lucked in on one theme and have
>>> flogged it ever since. Hope it's strenuous these days for Jagger to
>>> prance around the stage with an old fashioned mike.
>>
>> We have old people here then we old people have "our parents" here. Roy
>> admitted he's 80 now. My parents generation that hated all the good
>> music in the 60's and beyond. I suspect lucretia is also in that
>> generation. Something she's mentioned in the past leads me to believe
>> this.
>>
>> You two old farts! Rolling Stones are musical legends. Great music,
>> just not for old farts.
>
>
>Talk about somebody who is in denial. Do you think you're not classified as
>an old fart by younger people? LOL
>
>Cheri

Meh, he's a nice old fart.

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 08:15:27 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 9/8/2016 8:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >, gravesend10
>> @verizon.net says...
>>>
>>> Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
>>> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
>>
>> Jackie who?
>>
>
>
>I have always wondered this (perhaps a question for the ladies):
>
>Do you consider the young Frank Sinatra to be a looker?

Not particularly, but I did like his voice. However having witnessed
him being really obnoxious with people in no position to answer back,
I got rid of his records and never bought another.

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:40:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/8/2016 1:18 AM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>>> ==========
>>> But he has made a lot of people a lot of money as well, so that's not a bad
>>> thing.
>>
>> That's hard to know for sure. Plenty of people have made 'lots' of
>> money in the music biz, only to have it eaten away by various
>> parasites. Net result is often they're broke but 'rich'.
>>
>
>Just because you make a lot of money does not mean you know how to
>handle it. I read an article recently about the many million dollar
>sport figures that one out of six is broke in a four years. They often
>have advisors that have their hands deep in their pockets too.

There was an assemply line worker at a the company where I worked some
30 years ago who operated a kick press for minimum wage. She won a
million dollar lottery and quit. Six months later she was dead broke
and begging for her kick press job. She wasn't rehired. I heard she
gave most of that money to her church.

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 9/8/2016 4:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

>> Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
>> he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
>> better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
>> photos, and he is quite durable.
>
> Did you know he used to beat up his wife?

Only when she needed it.

nancy
===============

Nancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

You are being very naughty these days


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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 9/8/2016 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Not at all, in fact a female singer having a hot bod detracts from her
>> performance, the audience would be looking/gawking rather than
>> listening. Aretha Franklin wasn't a head turner but her audience
>> wasn't concerned with how she looked. Sammy's Davis Jr's looks didn't
>> prevent his becoming a super star. Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
>> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
>
> I can see you don't know anything about the popular music business since
> the
> inception of the music video.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Sad, actually, that a slick video on MTV means more than a great voice.
Not to mention what gets classified as lyrics in some of the rap crap.

============

Rap isn't singing



--
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 9/8/2016 6:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I'm not one of those second- or third-wave feminists who blames
> everything on the male hegemony, but it seems obvious that for
> women in public life, looks matter (notwithstanding my earlier
> comment which implied without stating outright that I don't care
> what a good singer looks like). A man's appearance is never
> picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Well it should be. If you ever saw the "Men of RFC" gallery you would
see why we deserve only hot looking women at our side. As a group it
would be difficult to find a more ruggedly handsome cast of characters
as us.

===

lol


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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 9/8/2016 9:19 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> I don't want to hear all the "old" songs performed by Granny Joan and
> Grampa Paul. Actually, they sounded fine, I just didn't want to see that
> crap. And those shows are always the old songs. Since these has-beens
> are still performing after all these years, did they not write any good
> NEW songs? No, they just lived off of royalties until they ran out of
> money. Now they bank on the nostalgia to keep alive. Notice the audience
> on these presentations. All old people. hahaha
>

Some of us old (but sill ruggedly handsome) old farts like some of the
old songs. Yes, some should retire but others still put on a good
show. Eric Clapton was pretty good.

I still appreciate Beethoven and he has not written any NEW music either.

===========

Pah, he doesn't deserve any fans!



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wrote in message news
On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:17:11 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>> >
>> Your lot are just craftily manipulated. Now the Beatles were supreme
>> musicians, their music was music and very clever.
>
>You'll get no argument from me there. The Beatles were the best of all
>time. Together and later when they broke up, John Lennon and George
>Harrison. Ringo was meh and Paul is a be-bop musician.
>
>Lennon was my "musical hero." Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" album
>was amazing.
>
>Nostalgia: I watched the Beatles when they first made their debut in
>America. The Ed Sullivan Show in 1964, I think. Notice I said that I
>watched them. I remember it being hard to hear them as during the entire
>thing, all the girls in the audience were screaming.
>
>Why do women do that? You go to see the Beatles, but then you scream
>during the entire song? wth? I guess that's a Mars/Venus thing.
>
>also more nostalgia: A few years later for Christmas, I got my first
>stereo. With it was my very first LP's. They were "Meet the Beatles" and
>the Beatles "2nd Album." I still have them both. :-D

I really loved them too - I remember sitting at an oh so formal mess
dinner and saying 'I really love the Beatles' and one of those tricks,
it fell into silence and everyone heard. There was a shocked pause
and then the Admiral said "Surely you jest?" but I remained faithful
to the cause and said No!

BTW the other day I saw an interesting interview with Ringo, he's well
preserved and has aged very handsomely, in fact looks better now than
when young

==============

I was never keen on them but my father loved them. I came home one day and
he told me about this wonderful group he had just seen ...



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wrote in message ...

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 07:53:04 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Roy > wrote:
>>> >I'd love it if they would start to play music instead of that crass
>>> >garbage they put out.
>>> >====
>>>
>>> Good lord Roy ! You're looking for them to be musicians, they never
>>> were and they never will be. They lucked in on one theme and have
>>> flogged it ever since. Hope it's strenuous these days for Jagger to
>>> prance around the stage with an old fashioned mike.
>>
>> We have old people here then we old people have "our parents" here. Roy
>> admitted he's 80 now. My parents generation that hated all the good
>> music in the 60's and beyond. I suspect lucretia is also in that
>> generation. Something she's mentioned in the past leads me to believe
>> this.
>>
>> You two old farts! Rolling Stones are musical legends. Great music,
>> just not for old farts.
>
>
>Talk about somebody who is in denial. Do you think you're not classified as
>an old fart by younger people? LOL
>
>Cheri

Meh, he's a nice old fart.

========

Sometimes ... ;-)

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/8/2016 9:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't want to hear all the "old" songs performed by Granny Joan and
> > Grampa Paul. Actually, they sounded fine, I just didn't want to see that
> > crap. And those shows are always the old songs. Since these has-beens
> > are still performing after all these years, did they not write any good
> > NEW songs? No, they just lived off of royalties until they ran out of
> > money. Now they bank on the nostalgia to keep alive. Notice the audience
> > on these presentations. All old people. hahaha
> >
>
> Some of us old (but sill ruggedly handsome) old farts like some of the
> old songs. Yes, some should retire but others still put on a good
> show. Eric Clapton was pretty good.
>
> I still appreciate Beethoven and he has not written any NEW music either.

He just needs a makeover, new teeth, fake tan, bit of botox and
proper hair stylist, then he could relaunch his career with a come-back
tour playing his top hits.

Janet UK

On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:29:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:16:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A man's appearance is never
> > > > picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
> > >
> > > Probably because men just age better.
> > > Case in point....Sean Connery
> > > - looked like a dork in the old James Bond movies
> >
> > Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
> > he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
> > better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
> > photos, and he is quite durable.
>
> Did you know he used to beat up his wife?

Yes, I do. That doesn't make him less handsome to look at on
a movie screen.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:10:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:

> BTW the other day I saw an interesting interview with Ringo, he's well
> preserved and has aged very handsomely, in fact looks better now than
> when young

Quite a few people with a big schnozz have to "grow into" their faces.
They might not look very good at 20, but they often look great at 40.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:15:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 08:15:27 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
> >On 9/8/2016 8:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
> >> In article >, gravesend10
> >> @verizon.net says...
> >>>
> >>> Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
> >>> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
> >>
> >> Jackie who?
> >>
> >
> >
> >I have always wondered this (perhaps a question for the ladies):
> >
> >Do you consider the young Frank Sinatra to be a looker?
>
> Not particularly, but I did like his voice. However having witnessed
> him being really obnoxious with people in no position to answer back,
> I got rid of his records

Well, you showed him! I never understood getting rid of something
already purchased. I can see not giving the person any more money,
but sunk costs are irrelevant.

I didn't like Frank when I was young, but I've developed an appreciation
for him. I'm picky about hit backup band, though. Some of them were...
not to my taste, let's say.

> and never bought another.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:29:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:16:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A man's appearance is never
> > > > > picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
> > > >
> > > > Probably because men just age better.
> > > > Case in point....Sean Connery
> > > > - looked like a dork in the old James Bond movies
> > >
> > > Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
> > > he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
> > > better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
> > > photos, and he is quite durable.
> >
> > Did you know he used to beat up his wife?
>
> Yes, I do. That doesn't make him less handsome to look at on
> a movie screen.

Just keep a distance.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:29:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:16:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A man's appearance is never
> > > > > picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
> > > >
> > > > Probably because men just age better.
> > > > Case in point....Sean Connery
> > > > - looked like a dork in the old James Bond movies
> > >
> > > Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
> > > he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
> > > better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
> > > photos, and he is quite durable.
> >
> > Did you know he used to beat up his wife?
>
> Yes, I do. That doesn't make him less handsome to look at on
> a movie screen.

Is this true? Are we still talking about Sean Connery? I'm surprised
and also disappointed in him.

wrote:
>
> BTW the other day I saw an interesting interview with Ringo, he's well
> preserved and has aged very handsomely, in fact looks better now than
> when young

I just looked up some current pics. I agree. He looks good and certainly
much younger than his age. Didn't he recently do a shoe commercial? It
sure looked like him.

wrote:
>
> "Cheri" wrote:
> >Talk about somebody who is in denial. Do you think you're not classified as
> >an old fart by younger people? LOL

Cheri, I'm not in denial. I know quite well that I'm an old fart. I'm
attracted to women half my age but I'm smart enough not to try to "hit
on them." I just sigh now and think....if only I was younger...

As far as music, I like pretty much everything and I do like current
music except for the dancy prancy pop music stuff. I even like rap. You
might not think it's "music" but I do and there is some serious talent
in that group.


> Meh, he's a nice old fart.

Thanks Lucretia. Your check's in the mail. ;-D

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 03:52:15 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:15:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 08:15:27 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On 9/8/2016 8:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> >> In article >, gravesend10
>> >> @verizon.net says...
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone think Jackie Gleason was an
>> >>> Adonis, yet he truly was The Greatest.
>> >>
>> >> Jackie who?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >I have always wondered this (perhaps a question for the ladies):
>> >
>> >Do you consider the young Frank Sinatra to be a looker?
>>
>> Not particularly, but I did like his voice. However having witnessed
>> him being really obnoxious with people in no position to answer back,
>> I got rid of his records
>
>Well, you showed him! I never understood getting rid of something
>already purchased. I can see not giving the person any more money,
>but sunk costs are irrelevant.

I realise it made no difference to him, but it did to me.
>
>I didn't like Frank when I was young, but I've developed an appreciation
>for him. I'm picky about hit backup band, though. Some of them were...
>not to my taste, let's say.
>
>> and never bought another.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

In article >, says...
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:29:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:16:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A man's appearance is never
> > > > > > picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably because men just age better.
> > > > > Case in point....Sean Connery
> > > > > - looked like a dork in the old James Bond movies
> > > >
> > > > Well, that's an opinion. Not mine, of course. I thought
> > > > he looked great as James Bond, and I thought he looked even
> > > > better in Time Bandits. I just looked at some recent
> > > > photos, and he is quite durable.
> > >
> > > Did you know he used to beat up his wife?
> >
> > Yes, I do. That doesn't make him less handsome to look at on
> > a movie screen.
>
> Is this true? Are we still talking about Sean Connery? I'm surprised
> and also disappointed in him.

Hear it live from his own mouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0d1zTAFKA

by his wife's version, far more than a slap

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...onnery-em-did-
em-beat-unconscious.html

Janet UK