"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
news
On 9/16/2016 6:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-09-16 3:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/16/2016 2:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> .
>>>
>>> Consider the recent findings against
>>> Apple and its tax problems in Ireland. As I understand it, they have had
>>> little more than a corporate presence in Ireland for years and have paid
>>> almost no taxes. Ireland is protesting the findings, but the EU is
>>> demanding that they recover something like $15 Billion in taxes from
>>> Apple.
>>>
>>
>> From what little I've read, Ireland want the jobs created, EU wants the
>> tax money. The type of thing that will make people vote for a Brexit.
>>
>
>
> There has to be an equal playing field. Of course the countries want the
> tax revenues from the corporations doing business in their jurisdiction.
> They do not want a situation where a company is doing a whack of
> business within the vast market of the economic union when the tax
> profits are all going to only one member, and there really aren't any
> being paid.
>

I'm not interested enough to investigate the situation. Taxes should be
paid according to what is deemed fair and assessed, equally for all
corporations, and that is what Apple is saying it did but the EU wants
more. If it was set up and agreed to the present rate, so be it. If
Apple is evading, they should pay. If the EU is making the rules
retroactively, screw them. Probably comes down to interpretation.

==========

The EU want the money to be paid to the Irish government which they say is
owed. The Irish prefer the jobs.

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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, says...
>
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
>
> >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > wrote:
> >
> >>In article >,
> says...
> >>>
> >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will definitely
> >>be
> >>> >a different one.
> >>> >
> >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> >>> >debates coming soon.
> >>>
> >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and later
> >>> regretted it.
> >>
> >>The Brexit
> >
> >That would definitely be one!
>
> Like hell it is.

The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed shocked
when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
who's still celebrating

============

Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters


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In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
> >
> > >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>In article >,
> > says...
> > >>>
> > >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will definitely
> > >>be
> > >>> >a different one.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> > >>> >debates coming soon.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> > >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> > >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and later
> > >>> regretted it.
> > >>
> > >>The Brexit
> > >
> > >That would definitely be one!
> >
> > Like hell it is.
>
> The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
> guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed shocked
> when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
> who's still celebrating
>
> ============
>
> Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters

I saw all these English people on TV who were going: "I just wanted to
make a statement. I didn't really want us to leave the EU! Can we vote
again, please?" lol

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
> >
> > >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>In article >,
> > says...
> > >>>
> > >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will
> > >>> >definitely
> > >>be
> > >>> >a different one.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> > >>> >debates coming soon.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> > >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> > >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and later
> > >>> regretted it.
> > >>
> > >>The Brexit
> > >
> > >That would definitely be one!
> >
> > Like hell it is.
>
> The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
> guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed shocked
> when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
> who's still celebrating
>
> ============
>
> Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters

I saw all these English people on TV who were going: "I just wanted to
make a statement. I didn't really want us to leave the EU! Can we vote
again, please?" lol

============

How many? There are plenty of those who voted remain because they were
warned we get WWIII if we left and are now finding out that we are doing
well.




--
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In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >, says...
> > >
> > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
> > >
> > > >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary
> > > >>> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will
> > > >>> >definitely
> > > >>be
> > > >>> >a different one.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> > > >>> >debates coming soon.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> > > >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> > > >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and later
> > > >>> regretted it.
> > > >>
> > > >>The Brexit
> > > >
> > > >That would definitely be one!
> > >
> > > Like hell it is.
> >
> > The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
> > guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed shocked
> > when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
> > who's still celebrating
> >
> > ============
> >
> > Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters
>
> I saw all these English people on TV who were going: "I just wanted to
> make a statement. I didn't really want us to leave the EU! Can we vote
> again, please?" lol
>
> ============
>
> How many? There are plenty of those who voted remain because they were
> warned we get WWIII if we left and are now finding out that we are doing
> well.

The damage is still coming. You're not out yet. UK is very hesitant to
actually cut the umbilical cord But I can understand that it's
psychologically nice te be out. Maybe it will be worth it that way.

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >, says...
> > >
> > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
> > >
> > > >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary
> > > >>> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will
> > > >>> >definitely
> > > >>be
> > > >>> >a different one.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> > > >>> >debates coming soon.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> > > >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> > > >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and
> > > >>> later
> > > >>> regretted it.
> > > >>
> > > >>The Brexit
> > > >
> > > >That would definitely be one!
> > >
> > > Like hell it is.
> >
> > The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
> > guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed shocked
> > when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
> > who's still celebrating
> >
> > ============
> >
> > Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters
>
> I saw all these English people on TV who were going: "I just wanted to
> make a statement. I didn't really want us to leave the EU! Can we vote
> again, please?" lol
>
> ============
>
> How many? There are plenty of those who voted remain because they were
> warned we get WWIII if we left and are now finding out that we are doing
> well.

The damage is still coming. You're not out yet. UK is very hesitant to
actually cut the umbilical cord But I can understand that it's
psychologically nice te be out. Maybe it will be worth it that way.

================

We don't like being controlled by unelected people.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 5:28:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:55:44 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On 2016-09-16 12:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
> > > > >> better change.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
> > > > > disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
> > > > > has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.
> > > >
> > > > No argument that he has proved himself unreliable. From what we have
> > > > read and heard about him you would be a fool to do business with him.
> > > > Yet, he has a lot of support.
> > >
> > > Bush Jr got elected and re-elected. Probably by the same demographic.
> > > Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Lots of voters like candidates who
> > > are as stupid as they are.
> >
> > Speak for yourself Brucy...I want people who are even smarter than myself to govern. Gawd only knows we don't get the best or haven't so far.
> > =====
>
> I wasn't speaking for myself or for you. But lots of people like to vote
> for a simpleton, because brainier people scare them or turn them off.
> This tendency could be stronger in some countries than in others (he
> said cautiously).

I'll be incautious. The American people have had a long, long mistrust of
educated and intelligent people.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > > T...
> > >
> > > In article >, says...
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary
> > > > >>> > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will
> > > > >>> >definitely
> > > > >>be
> > > > >>> >a different one.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> > > > >>> >debates coming soon.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> > > > >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> > > > >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and
> > > > >>> later
> > > > >>> regretted it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>The Brexit
> > > > >
> > > > >That would definitely be one!
> > > >
> > > > Like hell it is.
> > >
> > > The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
> > > guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed shocked
> > > when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
> > > who's still celebrating
> > >
> > > ============
> > >
> > > Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters
> >
> > I saw all these English people on TV who were going: "I just wanted to
> > make a statement. I didn't really want us to leave the EU! Can we vote
> > again, please?" lol
> >
> > ============
> >
> > How many? There are plenty of those who voted remain because they were
> > warned we get WWIII if we left and are now finding out that we are doing
> > well.
>
> The damage is still coming. You're not out yet. UK is very hesitant to
> actually cut the umbilical cord But I can understand that it's
> psychologically nice te be out. Maybe it will be worth it that way.
>
> ================
>
> We don't like being controlled by unelected people.

I don't think anybody does. Russians with their Putin maybe.

On 9/17/2016 4:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 5:28:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:55:44 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-09-16 12:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
>>>>>>> better change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
>>>>>> disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
>>>>>> has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.
>>>>>
>>>>> No argument that he has proved himself unreliable. From what we have
>>>>> read and heard about him you would be a fool to do business with him.
>>>>> Yet, he has a lot of support.
>>>>
>>>> Bush Jr got elected and re-elected. Probably by the same demographic.
>>>> Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Lots of voters like candidates who
>>>> are as stupid as they are.
>>>
>>> Speak for yourself Brucy...I want people who are even smarter than myself to govern. Gawd only knows we don't get the best or haven't so far.
>>> =====
>>
>> I wasn't speaking for myself or for you. But lots of people like to vote
>> for a simpleton, because brainier people scare them or turn them off.
>> This tendency could be stronger in some countries than in others (he
>> said cautiously).
>
> I'll be incautious. The American people have had a long, long mistrust of
> educated and intelligent people.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

some of those educated and intelligent people are liars and crooks.

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > > T...
> > >
> > > In article >, says...
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:54:00 -0300, wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:42:14 +1000, Bruce
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400,
> > > > >>> >Gary
> > > > >>> > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will
> > > > >>> >definitely
> > > > >>be
> > > > >>> >a different one.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the
> > > > >>> >one-on-one
> > > > >>> >debates coming soon.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> > > > >>> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I
> > > > >>> have
> > > > >>> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and
> > > > >>> later
> > > > >>> regretted it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>The Brexit
> > > > >
> > > > >That would definitely be one!
> > > >
> > > > Like hell it is.
> > >
> > > The question wasn't whether brexiting was a good or a bad decision. I
> > > guess time will tell. The point was that many exit voters seemed
> > > shocked
> > > when they got their way. Although I know one exit voter in this group
> > > who's still celebrating
> > >
> > > ============
> > >
> > > Along with the rest of the almost 17.5 million voters
> >
> > I saw all these English people on TV who were going: "I just wanted to
> > make a statement. I didn't really want us to leave the EU! Can we vote
> > again, please?" lol
> >
> > ============
> >
> > How many? There are plenty of those who voted remain because they were
> > warned we get WWIII if we left and are now finding out that we are doing
> > well.
>
> The damage is still coming. You're not out yet. UK is very hesitant to
> actually cut the umbilical cord But I can understand that it's
> psychologically nice te be out. Maybe it will be worth it that way.
>
> ================
>
> We don't like being controlled by unelected people.

I don't think anybody does. Russians with their Putin maybe.

==============

We got a choice, they don't.



--
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>> his driveway to his front door!
>>


I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
their lights on? Very creepy...


William

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:17:22 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>>> his driveway to his front door!
>>>
>
>
>I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
>asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
>Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
>their lights on? Very creepy...
>
>
>William
>
>
I live in a condo and there are four or five people for whom I will
water their plants, look after their cats, take in their mail etc when
they go away. They return the favour.

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:22:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:50:00 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:14:34 -0600, Janet B >
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> he's a TV doctor
> > >> Janet US
> > >
> > >He has real Dr. credentials, unless this is a lie.
> > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
> > >None of that explains why he let Trump play him like a fiddle.
> >
> > I don't dispute the credentials. Letting Trump play him was a huge
> > mistake.
>
> He must have gotten paid well for it.

Dr. Oz let his medical license lapse because he found being a TV star was much more financially lucrative! But he WAS a licensed MD.

John kuthe...

On 9/17/2016 7:40 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:22:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:50:00 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:14:34 -0600, Janet B >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> he's a TV doctor
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> He has real Dr. credentials, unless this is a lie.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
>>>> None of that explains why he let Trump play him like a fiddle.
>>>
>>> I don't dispute the credentials. Letting Trump play him was a huge
>>> mistake.
>>
>> He must have gotten paid well for it.
>
> Dr. Oz let his medical license lapse because he found being a TV star was much more financially lucrative! But he WAS a licensed MD.
>
> John kuthe...
>

maybe he let it lapse because he was under heavy criticism from his
peers over his scam promotions.

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 07:44:09 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 9/17/2016 7:40 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:22:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:50:00 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:14:34 -0600, Janet B >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he's a TV doctor
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> He has real Dr. credentials, unless this is a lie.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
>>>>> None of that explains why he let Trump play him like a fiddle.
>>>>
>>>> I don't dispute the credentials. Letting Trump play him was a huge
>>>> mistake.
>>>
>>> He must have gotten paid well for it.
>>
>> Dr. Oz let his medical license lapse because he found being a TV star was much more financially lucrative! But he WAS a licensed MD.
>>
>> John kuthe...
>>
>
>maybe he let it lapse because he was under heavy criticism from his
>peers over his scam promotions.

One would hope so.

On 9/17/2016 12:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:49:21 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Just so happens my that female neighbor just called me. I did not
>> answer the phone. I'm sure she's going to ask why Security was at my house.
>
> Isn't this the same guy that invited both of you ladies over for wine,
> cheese, and hummus but didn't have a corkscrew or any glasses?
>
> -sw
>
Yes. They weren't feuding at that time. Something that happened after
that set this whole thing off.

Jill

On 9/17/2016 12:27 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Since my neighbor told me he'd alerted Security about her, and I spotted
>> her walking up to his front door this evening, I decided to call
>> Security. I was sure the guy I spoke with must have thought I was a nut.
>
> What did she do when she got to the door? Try the knob or ring the
> bell?
>
>> Just so happens my that female neighbor just called me. I did not
>> answer the phone. I'm sure she's going to ask why Security was at
>> my house.
>
> You have now been caught siding with the enemy by not answering your
> phone when she knows you were at home. Her suspicions were confirmed.
>
> Welcome to the drama.
>
> -sw
>
I called her back. I didn't know *why* she was calling and was merely
guessing she wanted to know why Security was at my house. I didn't know
what I was going to tell her. But no, she didn't ask about that. She
asked did I turn on his lights or did she? What?!

That tells me she must have made a copy of his house key when she had
it. I called him this morning and suggested he change his locks. He
said he'll think about it. What the heck is there to think about? LOL

Jill

On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 9/17/2016 4:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 5:28:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:55:44 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> In article >,
> >>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2016-09-16 12:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
> >>>>>>> better change.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
> >>>>>> disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
> >>>>>> has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No argument that he has proved himself unreliable. From what we have
> >>>>> read and heard about him you would be a fool to do business with him.
> >>>>> Yet, he has a lot of support.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bush Jr got elected and re-elected. Probably by the same demographic.
> >>>> Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Lots of voters like candidates who
> >>>> are as stupid as they are.
> >>>
> >>> Speak for yourself Brucy...I want people who are even smarter than myself to govern. Gawd only knows we don't get the best or haven't so far.
> >>> =====
> >>
> >> I wasn't speaking for myself or for you. But lots of people like to vote
> >> for a simpleton, because brainier people scare them or turn them off.
> >> This tendency could be stronger in some countries than in others (he
> >> said cautiously).
> >
> > I'll be incautious. The American people have had a long, long mistrust of
> > educated and intelligent people.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> some of those educated and intelligent people are liars and crooks.

I'd much rather have an educated and intelligent liar/crook running
the country than a stupid liar/crook running the country. Or a
sociopathic liar/crook, as Donald Trump seems to be.

Cindy Hamilton

William wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
> >> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
> >> his driveway to his front door!
> >>
>
> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
> their lights on? Very creepy...

After reading all of Jill's updates yesterday, I agree...It's a creepy
situation and I would have nothing to do with either of them from now
on. I hope Jill remembers to lock her own doors. heheh

wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:17:22 -0400, William > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
> >>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
> >>> his driveway to his front door!
> >>>
> >
> >
> >I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
> >asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
> >Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
> >their lights on? Very creepy...
> >
> >
> >William
> >
> >
> I live in a condo and there are four or five people for whom I will
> water their plants, look after their cats, take in their mail etc when
> they go away. They return the favour.

This is good and normal but it sounds like Jill is dealing with a crazy
lady.

On 9/17/2016 10:30 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:17:22 -0400, William > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>>>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>>>> his driveway to his front door!
>>>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
>> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
>> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
>> their lights on? Very creepy...
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>>
> I live in a condo and there are four or five people for whom I will
> water their plants, look after their cats, take in their mail etc when
> they go away. They return the favour.
>
Exactly. I don't hang out with my neighbors, per se, but he told me
he'd lost his keys. He hasn't been here for the last couple of weeks.

As for turning on the lights, he was due back well after midnight.
There aren't any street lights. So he wanted me to turn on the lights
and leave the door unlocked for him. After seeing her walk up to his
door (which is hidden from view by a wall) I didn't want to just leave
the door unlocked. I called Security and they picked up his keys. Then
I called him (he was on the road by then) and told him they'd have his
keys. I did sneak over and turn on the lights for him, and locked the
door again.

I think she has a key. At one time they (including the guys wife) were
friends and she did have the keys. I suspect she had a copy made. She
called me after Security left my house... I let it go to the answering
machine. I didn't know why she was calling I had to think about it
before I called her back. What she wanted to know was did *I* turn on
his lights or did *she*?!

As far as I know she didn't know he was coming back last night. I
didn't find out until late afternoon and I sure didn't tell HER about
it. But if she thought she might have turned on his lights, logic would
dictate she still has a key.

I called him this morning, he said yeah, she used to have the same set
of keys I had. I suggested he call a locksmith. He said he'd "think
about it." Huh.

Jill

On 9/17/2016 11:31 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:17:22 -0400, William > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>>>>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>>>>> his driveway to his front door!
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
>>> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
>>> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
>>> their lights on? Very creepy...
>>>
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>> I live in a condo and there are four or five people for whom I will
>> water their plants, look after their cats, take in their mail etc when
>> they go away. They return the favour.
>
> This is good and normal but it sounds like Jill is dealing with a crazy
> lady.
>
Ya think?! (laughing)

Jill

On 9/17/2016 8:28 AM, Gary wrote:
> William wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>>>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>>>> his driveway to his front door!
>>>>
>>
>> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
>> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
>> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
>> their lights on? Very creepy...
>
> After reading all of Jill's updates yesterday, I agree...It's a creepy
> situation and I would have nothing to do with either of them from now
> on. I hope Jill remembers to lock her own doors. heheh
>

I hope she has a stockpile of those hard, uneaten Kaiser rolls to use as
ammo!

On 9/17/2016 11:28 AM, Gary wrote:
> William wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>>>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>>>> his driveway to his front door!
>>>>
>>
>> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
>> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
>> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
>> their lights on? Very creepy...
>
> After reading all of Jill's updates yesterday, I agree...It's a creepy
> situation and I would have nothing to do with either of them from now
> on. I hope Jill remembers to lock her own doors. heheh
>
Yep, and no one else has a key to my house. If, for some reason,
Security needs to get in they'll have to break one of the glass panels
by the front door.

Jill

Bruce wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > I'll take the chance with Trump but I've always said, he's not very
> > presidential. He's shaking up Washington and I like that. He also scares
> > the foreigners. I like that too.
>
> I'm still wondering. Imagine the whole world is shaking in their boots
> because Trump is president of the US. What will you get out of that? Is
> there something you want that other countries aren't giving you because
> they're not scared yet?

Just teasing the foreigners here who think he'll start WW3.
I do love the shaking up of DC though. Both parties in the House ant
Senate are very worried.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
>
>
> > I'll take the chance with Trump but I've always said, he's not very
> > presidential. He's shaking up Washington and I like that. He also scares
> > the foreigners. I like that too.
>
> Why? How will "scaring foreigners" help your economy?

I find the "fear factor" of some amusing. I never said he would help
the economy. I'm not a Trump fan but I'm not a Hillary lemming either.
I'll wait for the debates. I'll decide the night before the election.

wrote:
>
> In Canada the ratio of female CEOs is dismal, mostly because
> the men in power don't consider the woman could do the same job,
> usually better too.

Why usually better? Are you biased?

That said, you are a liberal Democrat in voice and you hate all of the
greedy corporations and their CEOs. So tell my just WHY you wish
more women would become CEOs and then be considered the greedy enemy?

Keep in mine, the sole duty of a CEO is to make maximum money for the
stockholders. If SHE passes up opportunities to do this, she will be
fired/replaced quickly.

On 9/16/2016 8:14 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:02:55 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Weird thing. I was going to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>> his driveway to his front door!
>>
>> He's not even home yet and doesn't know he's coming back. WTF is she
>> doing walking up to his front door? I'm going to have to wait until
>> after it's dark to unlock the door and turn on the lights for him.
>>
>> Then, I'm leaving the keys on the counter and walking away. Leave me
>> out of this!
>
> Wise move!
>
> Maybe have some video cameras at the ready in case there's an
> incident, then you can sell the footage to the media
>
LOL Too bad I don't own a video camera. The guy might want to invest
in some security cameras, though...

Jill

On 9/16/2016 6:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-09-16 2:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> OB Food: I bought some nice fresh veggies at the farm stand for $7.
>> Zucchini, crookneck squash, small potatoes (both red and white), a small
>> cabbage and an eggplant.
>>
>
> Supper tonight looks like like it is going to be grilled on the gas
> BBQ, fresh green beans,home fried potatoes and salad.
>
I'd like to grill but it's been rainy here for the last few days. I
don't have a covered spot for grilling. It's also been very windy.
Even if it didn't rain, since I use a charcoal grill, when it is windy
it's a bad idea.

Jill

On 9/16/2016 10:16 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:52:26 -0400, Alex > wrote:
>
>> The shit old people do to occupy their time is unbelievable.
>
> Like you, for example. Stalking somebody online.
>
Isn't Alex (or whatever his name morphs into) stupid? He makes lame
comments about what I post as if it will affect me in some way.

Jill

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I'd much rather have an educated and intelligent liar/crook running
> the country than a stupid liar/crook running the country. Or a
> sociopathic liar/crook, as Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
> both seem to be.

I prefer to have an honest person running this country.
Not a Donald and not a Hillary.

This is certainly a bad choice this year.
It's even hard to decide who is the worst choice to vote against.

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 11:42:42 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/17/2016 11:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>> William wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
>>>>> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
>>>>> his driveway to his front door!
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
>>> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
>>> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
>>> their lights on? Very creepy...
>>
>> After reading all of Jill's updates yesterday, I agree...It's a creepy
>> situation and I would have nothing to do with either of them from now
>> on. I hope Jill remembers to lock her own doors. heheh
>>
>Yep, and no one else has a key to my house. If, for some reason,
>Security needs to get in they'll have to break one of the glass panels
>by the front door.
>
>Jill

There are easier ways. I have a door panel and you press in a number
and it unlocks it. It's great, when I give the number to someone
it's a breeze to switch it to another number after they have used it.

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 11:53:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> In Canada the ratio of female CEOs is dismal, mostly because
>> the men in power don't consider the woman could do the same job,
>> usually better too.
>
>Why usually better? Are you biased?
>
>That said, you are a liberal Democrat in voice and you hate all of the
>greedy corporations and their CEOs. So tell my just WHY you wish
>more women would become CEOs and then be considered the greedy enemy?
>
>Keep in mine, the sole duty of a CEO is to make maximum money for the
>stockholders. If SHE passes up opportunities to do this, she will be
>fired/replaced quickly.

Because I figure females could not possibly do a worse job! I wasn't
asking there be more, just equal numbers, don't you feel that way?

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:13:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I'd much rather have an educated and intelligent liar/crook running
>> the country than a stupid liar/crook running the country. Or a
>> sociopathic liar/crook, as Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
>> both seem to be.
>
>I prefer to have an honest person running this country.
>Not a Donald and not a Hillary.
>
>This is certainly a bad choice this year.
>It's even hard to decide who is the worst choice to vote against.

specific Hillary lies please. I want to know the terrible ones.
Janet US

On 9/17/2016 1:21 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 11:53:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In Canada the ratio of female CEOs is dismal, mostly because
>>> the men in power don't consider the woman could do the same job,
>>> usually better too.
>>
>> Why usually better? Are you biased?
>>
>> That said, you are a liberal Democrat in voice and you hate all of the
>> greedy corporations and their CEOs. So tell my just WHY you wish
>> more women would become CEOs and then be considered the greedy enemy?
>>
>> Keep in mine, the sole duty of a CEO is to make maximum money for the
>> stockholders. If SHE passes up opportunities to do this, she will be
>> fired/replaced quickly.
>
> Because I figure females could not possibly do a worse job! I wasn't
> asking there be more, just equal numbers, don't you feel that way?
>

They are increasing in number. Men had a couple of hundred years head
start though. The number will never be equal. Not as many women as men
want to be a CEO but they are making inroads into other formerly male
dominated occupations.

Three times in my working career I shocked others putting a woman into a
former male occupied position. In every case they did equal or better.

On 2016-09-17 11:42 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/17/2016 11:28 AM, Gary wrote:

> Yep, and no one else has a key to my house. If, for some reason,
> Security needs to get in they'll have to break one of the glass panels
> by the front door.

I guess the burglars are just going to have to break into your house
they same way they break into everyone else's house.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:13:36 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >Weird thing. I was gocall g to go over and unlock the doors and turn on
> >> his outside lights as requested. I spotted my other neighbor walking up
> >> his driveway to his front door!
> >>
>
>
> I guess I'm not that friendly with my neighbors, if they called and
> asked me to go turn their lights on I would take my Smith & Wesson
> Life Insurance Policy with me...and wonder why they need ME to turn
> their lights on? Very creepy...

What a dismal way to live.

Our neighbours all support each other in lots of little ways.

Two of our neighbours have sets of our house keys and we have theirs.
While someone is away, pets can be cared for, plants watered or picked,
mail checked, rubbish put out for collection, grass cut, house checked
after a storm or powercut, and if they are going to arrive home after
dark the lights will be turned on.
Janet UK

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 13:34:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/17/2016 1:21 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 11:53:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In Canada the ratio of female CEOs is dismal, mostly because
>>>> the men in power don't consider the woman could do the same job,
>>>> usually better too.
>>>
>>> Why usually better? Are you biased?
>>>
>>> That said, you are a liberal Democrat in voice and you hate all of the
>>> greedy corporations and their CEOs. So tell my just WHY you wish
>>> more women would become CEOs and then be considered the greedy enemy?
>>>
>>> Keep in mine, the sole duty of a CEO is to make maximum money for the
>>> stockholders. If SHE passes up opportunities to do this, she will be
>>> fired/replaced quickly.
>>
>> Because I figure females could not possibly do a worse job! I wasn't
>> asking there be more, just equal numbers, don't you feel that way?
>>
>
>They are increasing in number. Men had a couple of hundred years head
>start though. The number will never be equal. Not as many women as men
>want to be a CEO but they are making inroads into other formerly male
>dominated occupations.
>
>Three times in my working career I shocked others putting a woman into a
>former male occupied position. In every case they did equal or better.

Good for you Ed !

On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I'd much rather have an educated and intelligent liar/crook running
> > the country than a stupid liar/crook running the country. Or a
> > sociopathic liar/crook, as Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
> > both seem to be.
>
> I prefer to have an honest person running this country.

And I'd like a million dollars and a tiara. I don't expect either
of us will get what we want. Ever. (Ok, I could buy a rhinestone
tiara if I wanted to, but I'd look funny mowing the lawn in it.)

> Not a Donald and not a Hillary.
>
> This is certainly a bad choice this year.
> It's even hard to decide who is the worst choice to vote against.

Not for me. Donald is my #1 choice to vote against.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-09-16 7:02 PM, wrote:

> That's where I differ from you, I pick the one I think is the best
> candidate, be it male or female. Now, if men could just learn to do
> that, think how many women as 51% of the population would have better
> jobs. In Canada the ratio of female CEOs is dismal, mostly because
> the men in power don't consider the woman could do the same job,
> usually better too.

If they ran their own businesses they would be CEOs. If they were
really capable of being CEO in a major corporation, they would be. It's
a tough job to be a CEO and there is a lot of politicking and networking
involved.