On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 3:00:14 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ed
> Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Most of his campaign rhetoric and promises is what that group of people
> > talk about over a couple of beers. Finally a candidate that understands
> > them and it going to fix things. Yep, he is keeping out the illegals,
> > mooslums, gays, commies, and furriners, Yeah, we'll get 'em.
>
> Remember Ed, when we were growing up, we had a thriving blue-collar
> middle class? Governmental regulation of damned near everything has
> driven manufacturing out of our country. We no longer have a
> military-industrial complex, because there is no industrial part.
> People ranting about the M-I complex haven't a clue of what's going on.
> We can't even produce military components to keep our weapons of war
> working or microchips to run our ever increasing need for information
> technology. It's all gone. Others do it somewhere else.
> We need to put our people back to work again with a sense of purpose
> and not dependent on governmental largesse that fewer and fewer people
> keep paying for.

What Presidential power will enable that to happen? I just don't see
either Clinton or Trump having an iota effect on restoring the
manufacturing base in the U.S.

> Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
> declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
> consequences to the world.
> Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
> I'm voting Trump.

I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 21:08:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/15/2016 7:09 PM, wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Over the past year I've watched countless shows on Trump (and his
>>> supporters). It's just mind boggling how little thought/analysis they
>>> put into Trump and his random spur of the moment policies. They must
>>> very, very insulated from the outside world.
>>
>> I was reading that the profile of his supporters is male, mid-to old,
>> poor education level and never held terribly well paid jobs. Now in
>> retirement they feel angry and blame it on anyone available, Mexicans,
>> blacks, you name it. For some of them, if indeed they do vote for
>> him, it will be the first time they have voted.
>>
>
>These are the same people that are losing their jobs to overseas. Trump
>is going to be their savior.
>
>Most of his campaign rhetoric and promises is what that group of people
>talk about over a couple of beers. Finally a candidate that understands
>them and it going to fix things. Yep, he is keeping out the illegals,
>mooslums, gays, commies, and furriners, Yeah, we'll get 'em.

Actually I feel sorry for them - Trump would not be the solution to
their problems. Imagine if he did start construction of a wall - he'd
be washing his hands in graft I see Ford is moving their small
car manufacturing to Mexico now, perhaps a wall would keep that at
home !

In article >,
says...
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 3:00:14 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> > Remember Ed, when we were growing up, we had a thriving blue-collar
> > middle class? Governmental regulation of damned near everything has
> > driven manufacturing out of our country. We no longer have a
> > military-industrial complex, because there is no industrial part.
> > People ranting about the M-I complex haven't a clue of what's going on.
> > We can't even produce military components to keep our weapons of war
> > working or microchips to run our ever increasing need for information
> > technology. It's all gone. Others do it somewhere else.
> > We need to put our people back to work again with a sense of purpose
> > and not dependent on governmental largesse that fewer and fewer people
> > keep paying for.
>
> What Presidential power will enable that to happen? I just don't see
> either Clinton or Trump having an iota effect on restoring the
> manufacturing base in the U.S.
>
> > Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
> > declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
> > consequences to the world.
> > Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
> > I'm voting Trump.
>
> I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
> a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.

lol Only someone from a basket of deplorables...

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 00:00:09 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Ed
>Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Most of his campaign rhetoric and promises is what that group of people
>> talk about over a couple of beers. Finally a candidate that understands
>> them and it going to fix things. Yep, he is keeping out the illegals,
>> mooslums, gays, commies, and furriners, Yeah, we'll get 'em.
>
>Remember Ed, when we were growing up, we had a thriving blue-collar
>middle class? Governmental regulation of damned near everything has
>driven manufacturing out of our country. We no longer have a
>military-industrial complex, because there is no industrial part.
>People ranting about the M-I complex haven't a clue of what's going on.
>We can't even produce military components to keep our weapons of war
>working or microchips to run our ever increasing need for information
>technology. It's all gone. Others do it somewhere else.
>We need to put our people back to work again with a sense of purpose
>and not dependent on governmental largesse that fewer and fewer people
>keep paying for.
>Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
>declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
>consequences to the world.
>Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
>I'm voting Trump.

Trump will bring back Rosie the Riveter, the female Iron Worker will
earn $30+ an hour, a far better occupation than infantile adults
flipping burgers... they ought to be ashamed doing a damaged brain
chore that can easily be done robotically; faster, cheaper, better.
People stopped laughing at vending machines more than fifty years
ago... 90% of prepared foods at stupidmarkets are fully prepared and
packaged robotically, more than half of what any restaurant serves was
prepared in an automated factory. The US needs to train young folks
to build machines, not do jobs tantamount to mop n' broom pushers...
even janitorial service companies employ high tech state of the art
industrial size Roombas. I need this: http://tinyurl.com/gnau8kw
http://www.dyson.com/vacuum-cleaners...m_mediu m=cpc

>[Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
>so it's true.
>Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
>the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
>in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
>should have taken a picture.
>
>leo

Would also be good with meatballs instead of shrimp.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 03:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 3:00:14 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> In article >, Ed
>> Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> > Most of his campaign rhetoric and promises is what that group of people
>> > talk about over a couple of beers. Finally a candidate that understands
>> > them and it going to fix things. Yep, he is keeping out the illegals,
>> > mooslums, gays, commies, and furriners, Yeah, we'll get 'em.
>>
>> Remember Ed, when we were growing up, we had a thriving blue-collar
>> middle class? Governmental regulation of damned near everything has
>> driven manufacturing out of our country. We no longer have a
>> military-industrial complex, because there is no industrial part.
>> People ranting about the M-I complex haven't a clue of what's going on.
>> We can't even produce military components to keep our weapons of war
>> working or microchips to run our ever increasing need for information
>> technology. It's all gone. Others do it somewhere else.
>> We need to put our people back to work again with a sense of purpose
>> and not dependent on governmental largesse that fewer and fewer people
>> keep paying for.
>
>What Presidential power will enable that to happen? I just don't see
>either Clinton or Trump having an iota effect on restoring the
>manufacturing base in the U.S.
>
>> Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
>> declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
>> consequences to the world.
>> Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
>> I'm voting Trump.
>
>I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
>a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I'm curious Cindy, what you think about Ford's new small car
manufacturing plant in Mexico. With it, Ford can compete with South
Korea, China or Germany. They can build small cars very competitively.

How much more would they cost to pay the United Auto Workers to build
the cars in Detroit? If the current Ford Chairman tried to build them
in Detroit, would the Ford shareholders demand his firing? It's really
tough to be a Capitalist Pig in America today.

William

On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
> so it's true.
> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
> should have taken a picture.
>
> leo

Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.

Jill

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
> > declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
> > consequences to the world.
> > Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
> > I'm voting Trump.
>
> I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
> a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.

Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
better change.

On 2016-09-16, Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:

> Governmental regulation of damned near everything has driven
> manufacturing out of our country.

Geez, you really are as dumb as you sound. 8|

nb

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/15/2016 6:39 PM, johnny smithers wrote:
>
> > Both of our "parties" are bad. They both do evil. If you think only the
> > republicans, or only the democrats are evil, then, you need to look
> > within yourself, and question yourself why.
> >
>
> This has to be the worst choice of candidates since the USA was conceived.

Sarah Palin was an advance warning of how low the bottom of the
barrel goes.

Janet UK

On 2016-09-16, Janet > wrote:

> Sarah Palin was an advance warning of how low the bottom of the
> barrel goes.

I love what Alonzo Bodden (comedian) sez about Sarah:

"Sarah Palin is the Paris Hilton of politics. She's hot, she's dumb,
and she won't go away!"

nb

William wrote:
>
> How much more would they cost to pay the United Auto Workers to build
> the cars in Detroit? If the current Ford Chairman tried to build them
> in Detroit, would the Ford shareholders demand his firing? It's really
> tough to be a Capitalist Pig in America today.

The unions ruined the us auto workers. They demanded way too much money
and benefits so the auto manufacturers just said screw this and took
their labor overseas. That's just good business and not greedy
corporation people. Liberals never seem to understand this. They just
blame the 'greedy rich guys.'

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > > Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
> > > declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
> > > consequences to the world.
> > > Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
> > > I'm voting Trump.
> >
> > I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
> > a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.
>
> Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
> better change.

So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.

I don't like Hillary Clinton, but come Election Day I'll hold my nose
and vote for her.

Cindy Hamilton

>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:58:55 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:

>On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
>> so it's true.
>> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
>> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
>> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
>> should have taken a picture.
>>
>> leo
>
>Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.
>
>Jill

Your name Sheldon??

On 16 Sep 2016 15:44:13 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-09-16, Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:
>
>> Governmental regulation of damned near everything has driven
>> manufacturing out of our country.
>
>Geez, you really are as dumb as you sound. 8|
>
>nb

It had more to do with cheap labour -

On 9/16/2016 12:41 PM, wrote:
>> http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:58:55 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
>>> so it's true.
>>> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
>>> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
>>> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
>>> should have taken a picture.
>>>
>>> leo
>>
>> Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Your name Sheldon??
>
You know perfectly well that's who I was referring to!

Jill

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:45:28 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/16/2016 12:41 PM, wrote:
>>> http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:58:55 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
>>>> so it's true.
>>>> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
>>>> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
>>>> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
>>>> should have taken a picture.
>>>>
>>>> leo
>>>
>>> Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Your name Sheldon??
>>
>You know perfectly well that's who I was referring to!
>
>Jill

Okay, guess you don't know sarcasm when you see it.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > > > Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
> > > > declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
> > > > consequences to the world.
> > > > Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
> > > > I'm voting Trump.
> > >
> > > I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
> > > a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.
> >
> > Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
> > better change.
>
> So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
> disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
> has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.
>
> I don't like Hillary Clinton, but come Election Day I'll hold my nose
> and vote for her.

Want to know what my best option is, Cindy? Let Hillary Clinton win but
then soon after have her step down due to legal or health issues. Let
Tim Kaine take over. I think he's the most qualified and would make a
good president. I'm familiar with him. He was our governor at one time.

I'll take the chance with Trump but I've always said, he's not very
presidential. He's shaking up Washington and I like that. He also scares
the foreigners. I like that too.

No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will definitely be
a different one.

I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
debates coming soon.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 9/16/2016 12:41 PM, wrote:
> >> http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:58:55 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >>> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
> >>> so it's true.
> >>> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
> >>> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
> >>> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
> >>> should have taken a picture.
> >>>
> >>> leo
> >>
> >> Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Your name Sheldon??
> >
> You know perfectly well that's who I was referring to!

Jill...you didn't include a pic of Sheldon so YOU must be lying too.
:-D

On 9/16/2016 12:54 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 9/16/2016 12:41 PM, wrote:
>>>> http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:58:55 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>>> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
>>>>> so it's true.
>>>>> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
>>>>> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
>>>>> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
>>>>> should have taken a picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> leo
>>>>
>>>> Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Your name Sheldon??
>>>
>> You know perfectly well that's who I was referring to!
>
> Jill...you didn't include a pic of Sheldon so YOU must be lying too.
> :-D
>
I don't think anyone has a pic of Sheldon, other than the one on the not
up to date web site which shows him looking like he's 30 when we know
he's in his 70's. heh

Jill

On 9/16/2016 12:47 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:45:28 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2016 12:41 PM, wrote:
>>>> http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:58:55 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/16/2016 3:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>>> [Ob:Food] I made the best something Alfredo yesterday. My wife says so,
>>>>> so it's true.
>>>>> Um... cooked Golden Grain thin spaghetti (not fettuccini according to
>>>>> the package) with a butter, cream, slightly garlicky sauce with tossed
>>>>> in parmesan, large chunks of big gulf shrimp and parsley. I really
>>>>> should have taken a picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> leo
>>>>
>>>> Since you didn't take a picture it's obvious you're lying.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Your name Sheldon??
>>>
>> You know perfectly well that's who I was referring to!
>>
>> Jill
>
> Okay, guess you don't know sarcasm when you see it.
>
Sorry, I've got other things going on. Lots of neighborhood drama have
me a tad distracted. Who thought older folks could get into this much
mischief? LOL

Jill

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> http://i68.tinypic.com/2r3ggh0.jpg
> Most smaller tractors don't have a place for carrying tools and stuff
> (even large tractors), tying on a market basket solves the problem:
> http://i65.tinypic.com/a0b7sg.jpg
> Bet yoose didn't know that farm cats can drive tractors:
> http://i63.tinypic.com/2wohp8p.jpg

Loved those pics, Sheldon. YOu must have been telling the truth.

Are those two feral cats? They don't very feral to me. You should bring
them inside. Regardless, they love playing with the tractor and
hanging out where they know you do.
They are NOT as feral as you seem to think. They want to be pets.

:-D

In article >, says...
>
> William wrote:
> >
> > How much more would they cost to pay the United Auto Workers to build
> > the cars in Detroit? If the current Ford Chairman tried to build them
> > in Detroit, would the Ford shareholders demand his firing? It's really
> > tough to be a Capitalist Pig in America today.
>
> The unions ruined the us auto workers. They demanded way too much money
> and benefits so the auto manufacturers just said screw this and took
> their labor overseas. That's just good business and not greedy
> corporation people. Liberals never seem to understand this. They just
> blame the 'greedy rich guys.'

US and European workers will always make more money than workers from
cheap labour countries. Unions or not. You all really seem to think
Trump can turn back time. He can't.

On 2016-09-16 11:48 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,

>> This has to be the worst choice of candidates since the USA was conceived.
>
> Sarah Palin was an advance warning of how low the bottom of the
> barrel goes.
>


It is more like a race to the bottom, and Trump is winning.
>

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Sorry, I've got other things going on. Lots of neighborhood drama have
> me a tad distracted. Who thought older folks could get into this much
> mischief? LOL

Please do tell more. I'm a bit nosey.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I don't think anyone has a pic of Sheldon, other than the one on the not
> up to date web site which shows him looking like he's 30 when we know
> he's in his 70's. heh

Yep, that's the only one we've seen. Since he won't post a recent pic,
maybe he lying about still being alive. hehehh

He's 73 now. I'm 63 now.
I last posted a pic of me about 7 years ago at my daughter's wedding.

Challenge to all here. Post a recent pic of yourself and I'll do the
same.
In my case, I'll have to take about 20 pics before I find one worth
sending.

Let's just do this with tinypic too. Most of the others are a pain in
the ass
just to see a simple picture.

>http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> > > > Vote for Hillary and support a historically and nowadays rapidly
>> > > > declining status-quo and continual weakening of the USA with dangerous
>> > > > consequences to the world.
>> > > > Vote for Trump and support something different. God knows what.
>> > > > I'm voting Trump.
>> > >
>> > > I'm going to step off of this cliff in the dark. Maybe there'll be
>> > > a ledge 5 feet down, or maybe not. God knows what.
>> >
>> > Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
>> > better change.
>>
>> So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
>> disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
>> has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.
>>
>> I don't like Hillary Clinton, but come Election Day I'll hold my nose
>> and vote for her.
>
>Want to know what my best option is, Cindy? Let Hillary Clinton win but
>then soon after have her step down due to legal or health issues. Let
>Tim Kaine take over. I think he's the most qualified and would make a
>good president. I'm familiar with him. He was our governor at one time.
>
>I'll take the chance with Trump but I've always said, he's not very
>presidential. He's shaking up Washington and I like that. He also scares
>the foreigners. I like that too.
>
>No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will definitely be
>a different one.
>
>I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
>debates coming soon.

Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and later
regretted it.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:03:08 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:
snip
>>
>Sorry, I've got other things going on. Lots of neighborhood drama have
>me a tad distracted. Who thought older folks could get into this much
>mischief? LOL
>
>Jill
Oh, c'mon. Do tell
Janet US

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:25:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I don't think anyone has a pic of Sheldon, other than the one on the not
>> up to date web site which shows him looking like he's 30 when we know
>> he's in his 70's. heh
>
>Yep, that's the only one we've seen. Since he won't post a recent pic,
>maybe he lying about still being alive. hehehh
>
>He's 73 now. I'm 63 now.
>I last posted a pic of me about 7 years ago at my daughter's wedding.
>
>Challenge to all here. Post a recent pic of yourself and I'll do the
>same.
>In my case, I'll have to take about 20 pics before I find one worth
>sending.
>
>Let's just do this with tinypic too. Most of the others are a pain in
>the ass
>just to see a simple picture.

Have you actually tried postimage ? Far less bother than tinypic

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I don't think anyone has a pic of Sheldon, other than the one on the not
>> up to date web site which shows him looking like he's 30 when we know
>> he's in his 70's. heh
>
> Yep, that's the only one we've seen. Since he won't post a recent pic,
> maybe he lying about still being alive. hehehh
>
> He's 73 now. I'm 63 now.
> I last posted a pic of me about 7 years ago at my daughter's wedding.
>
> Challenge to all here. Post a recent pic of yourself and I'll do the
> same.
> In my case, I'll have to take about 20 pics before I find one worth
> sending.
>
> Let's just do this with tinypic too. Most of the others are a pain in
> the ass
> just to see a simple picture.

Nope, I don't post recent pics of myself on the net, and the people I care
about see me in person. I don't do challenges and I also don't post pics of
hummingbird feeders and the like just because someone calls me a liar, or a
bitch, or whatever...but I will look at your pic if you post it as long as
you're clothed. LOL

Cheri

On 2016-09-16 12:00 PM, Gary wrote:
> William wrote:
>>
>> How much more would they cost to pay the United Auto Workers to build
>> the cars in Detroit? If the current Ford Chairman tried to build them
>> in Detroit, would the Ford shareholders demand his firing? It's really
>> tough to be a Capitalist Pig in America today.
>
> The unions ruined the us auto workers. They demanded way too much money
> and benefits so the auto manufacturers just said screw this and took
> their labor overseas. That's just good business and not greedy
> corporation people. Liberals never seem to understand this. They just
> blame the 'greedy rich guys.'
>

The unions got workers wages that enabled them to become customers. They
also spent a lot of money in the community, and that helped people in
other sectors prosper. I might suggest that is the real version of what
Reagan thought he was talking about with his trickle down stuff. I live
in an area that had a lot of unionized manufacturing. The workers
bought nice houses and/or did renovations, which provided jobs on
building supplies and for contractors. They went out for meals, giving
jobs to people in the service industry. They bought clothes and other
goods, creating other jobs in manufacturing and in retail. The could
afford to send their kids university.

The Republican view of trickle down didn't man out the way Reagan tried
to sell it. They broke down trade barriers to allow more foreign goods
into North American markets, which allowed them to buy manufacturing
plants in places like Mexico where they did not have to pay workers as
much, did not have to treat them fairly, where they did not have to
worry about environmental issues. China can turn out North American
designed products at a fraction of the price that it costs to build them
here, but half the time you can't breathe the air or drink the water.
You would not even think to swim in their rivers.

In article >, says...
>
> I'll take the chance with Trump but I've always said, he's not very
> presidential. He's shaking up Washington and I like that. He also scares
> the foreigners. I like that too.

I'm still wondering. Imagine the whole world is shaking in their boots
because Trump is president of the US. What will you get out of that? Is
there something you want that other countries aren't giving you because
they're not scared yet?

In article >,
says...
>
> >http://www.lowerdeck.ca/On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:42 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >No matter what Trump turns out to be as president, he will definitely
be
> >a different one.
> >
> >I still haven't decided though. Looking forward to the one-on-one
> >debates coming soon.
>
> Please don't Gary, Trump would be a disaster for the USA, not to
> mention a laughing stock. The experiment is too dangerous, I have
> seen elections where people fooled around with their vote and later
> regretted it.

The Brexit

On 2016-09-16 12:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

>> Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
>> better change.
>
> So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
> disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
> has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.

No argument that he has proved himself unreliable. From what we have
read and heard about him you would be a fool to do business with him.
Yet, he has a lot of support.


>
> I don't like Hillary Clinton, but come Election Day I'll hold my nose
> and vote for her.

We have had several elections like that up here. You hold your nose and
hope that you are picking the lesser idiot.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-09-16 12:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>
> >> Same here. It's worth a try. We'll get change and just have to hope it's
> >> better change.
> >
> > So you're willing to bet that the step into the dark won't be a
> > disaster? Sorry, not me. In fact, it's not even that dark. Trump
> > has proved untrustworthy by his actions time and time again.
>
> No argument that he has proved himself unreliable. From what we have
> read and heard about him you would be a fool to do business with him.
> Yet, he has a lot of support.

Bush Jr got elected and re-elected. Probably by the same demographic.
Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Lots of voters like candidates who
are as stupid as they are.

On 2016-09-16 12:43 PM, wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2016 15:44:13 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-09-16, Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:
>>
>>> Governmental regulation of damned near everything has driven
>>> manufacturing out of our country.
>>
>> Geez, you really are as dumb as you sound. 8|
>>
>> nb
>
> It had more to do with cheap labour -

The cost of labour is not everything. The workers have no rights and
they treat them like crap and expose them to unsafe conditions. Look at
the collapse of sweat shops in Bangladesh as an example of that. They
don't have to worry about environmental issues. Environmental laws are
slack or none existent. If there are problems.... slip someone some
money.

They also offer lower taxes. Combine that with their ability to shuffle
their money from one country to another to avoid taxation. It is
difficult for any single country to go after a company for taxes if they
can present a good case that the money in question was generated or
spent in a different country. Consider the recent findings against
Apple and its tax problems in Ireland. As I understand it, they have had
little more than a corporate presence in Ireland for years and have paid
almost no taxes. Ireland is protesting the findings, but the EU is
demanding that they recover something like $15 Billion in taxes from Apple.

On 2016-09-16 1:15 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says...

> US and European workers will always make more money than workers from
> cheap labour countries. Unions or not. You all really seem to think
> Trump can turn back time. He can't.
>


Really? Do you think that anyone who would admit to supporting Trump
would realize that it is not possible to turn back time?

On 9/16/2016 1:25 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I've got other things going on. Lots of neighborhood drama have
>> me a tad distracted. Who thought older folks could get into this much
>> mischief? LOL
>
> Please do tell more. I'm a bit nosey.
>
My next door neighbor and the neighbor across the street have some sort
of feud going on. She keeps alluding to some "incident" but won't tell
me what happened. The guy across the street is a seasonal resident who
is apparently going to be living here permanently as he is getting a
divorce. Used to be he'd show up with his wife but that stopped last
year. He started showing up alone. I'd already figured out they were
going to split. I mean, who goes on vacation for a month at a time
without their spouse?

Anyway, he's been gone for a couple of weeks. He called me this morning
and asked if I'd unlock his door and turn on the porch lights; he won't
get here until around midnight. He lost his keys. Oh, and DON'T TELL
the neighbor I unlocked the door!

He asked if I knew what was going on. No, and I really don't want to.
He said this other neighbor used to just walk into his house
unannounced. I have no idea why she'd do that. He said he has spoken
to Security and they know not to allow her to set foot on his property!
She'd be trespassing!

WOW.

I get the feeling she wanted some sort of relationship with him and was
rebuffed. (This is a woman whom I have seen personally working in her
back yard, which faces the 11th green of the golf course, wearing
nothing but her granny panties and sometimes a bra. An exhibitionist?
Dying for some attention?)

At any rate, this guy does NOT want her to know the door is unlocked.
Okay, fine. It's not like she's my best friend. After this, please
leave me out of it. I am perfectly content to sit back with my books
and my cat and my newsgroup. I certainly do not hang out with either of
them so don't drag me into the drama.

They're both in their 70's. I had no idea I moved to Peyton Place. LOL

Jill

On 9/16/2016 1:32 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:25:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone has a pic of Sheldon, other than the one on the not
>>> up to date web site which shows him looking like he's 30 when we know
>>> he's in his 70's. heh
>>
>> Yep, that's the only one we've seen. Since he won't post a recent pic,
>> maybe he lying about still being alive. hehehh
>>
>> He's 73 now. I'm 63 now.
>> I last posted a pic of me about 7 years ago at my daughter's wedding.
>>
>> Challenge to all here. Post a recent pic of yourself and I'll do the
>> same.
>> In my case, I'll have to take about 20 pics before I find one worth
>> sending.
>>
>> Let's just do this with tinypic too. Most of the others are a pain in
>> the ass
>> just to see a simple picture.
>
> Have you actually tried postimage ? Far less bother than tinypic
>
Yeah, I like postimage for photos.

Jill

On 9/16/2016 1:25 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I don't think anyone has a pic of Sheldon, other than the one on the not
>> up to date web site which shows him looking like he's 30 when we know
>> he's in his 70's. heh
>
> Yep, that's the only one we've seen. Since he won't post a recent pic,
> maybe he lying about still being alive. hehehh
>
> He's 73 now. I'm 63 now.
> I last posted a pic of me about 7 years ago at my daughter's wedding.
>
> Challenge to all here. Post a recent pic of yourself and I'll do the
> same.
> In my case, I'll have to take about 20 pics before I find one worth
> sending.
>
No thanks. People shouldn't care what I look like.

Jill

On 9/16/2016 1:30 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:03:08 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
> snip
>>>
>> Sorry, I've got other things going on. Lots of neighborhood drama have
>> me a tad distracted. Who thought older folks could get into this much
>> mischief? LOL
>>
>> Jill
> Oh, c'mon. Do tell
> Janet US
>
I just spelled it out (as best I can since I really don't know what's
going on) in my reply to Gary. What actually happened remains a mystery
but there's a real fued going on. At one point the female neighbor told
me she wished the guy was DEAD! That's pretty damn harsh if you ask me.

Jill