On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 07:59:25 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> Well, Gary, everybody has their own tastes. I love cornmeal muffins, especially
> when baked in a corn stick pan. Yummy, especially with some red currant jelly.
>

I haven't seen red currant jelly on a store shelf in years!

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:29:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:07:40 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> On 9/18/2016 6:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>>> This was home for four years:
>>> https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
>>> Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
>>> (destroyer escort) galley:
>>> http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html
>>
>> and yet your links show stoves and pots in a destroyer galley.
>
>Sheldon always posts links that disprove what he's trying to say.
>It's like some sort of mental deficiency.

The stove with pots is in the officer's galley (not the ship's galley)
only not labeled as such... officers food was cooked in a separate
small galley in the forward portion of the ship and was cooked by
ship's stewards/pineapples... on a DDE there'd be perhaps 8 officers
so pots would be sufficient, they had no koppers.. and the proper
nomenclature is kopper, not copper. Officers pay for their food so
don't eat nearly as well as the crew, officers are cheap and make up a
very mundane menu. Each meal one officer had to eat with the crew,
they had to run a lottery because they all wanted to eat with the
crew, the chow was far better than their shit. When we had steak it
was fillet mignon, the officer's steak was tube... cheapo texass
turkey tube like the dwarf dines on, which is why he has to blanket it
with all that spicey goop.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 4:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 10:49:18 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:41:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Please will you explain 'corn pudding'? Remember, my 'pudding' is your
> > > > > > 'dessert', so i am a bit confused
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it anything like cornbread? If so, why is it call pudding?
> > > > >
> > > > > A better question is "Why do the British call dessert pudding"?
> > > >
> > > > Google doesn't work where you are? The first hit that I got was
> > > > very believable:
> > > >
> > > > <http://greatbritishmag.co.uk/lifestyle/why-do-brits-call-dessert-pudding>
> > > >
> > > I knew that already. It's not a real answer, and basically calls them
> > > classist snobs.
> >
> > The English invented the language, so whatever they do, they're always
> > right.
>
> The Romans invented Latin, anything other than Classical Latin is incorrect.

English isn't a Roman language. We'd have to look at Germanic for its
roots.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 9/18/2016 10:32 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> >> In article >, says...
> >>>
> >>> On 9/16/2016 12:43 PM, wrote:
> >>>> In the past both Spain and Portugal were very important.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> That would be true. The Portuguese were the first great explorers of
> >>> the
> >>> world. My guess is that a Portuguese sailor landed in Okinawa 600 or
> >>> so
> >>> years ago and proceeded to spread his seed around. This resulted in
> >>> the
> >>> Okinawans looking distinctly different from the Japanese - hairy and
> >>> stocky.
> >>
> >> 500 years ago Portugal had extensive spice trade links with Japan,
> >> plus Jesuit Catholic missions there. Nagasaki (city) was founded by
> >> the
> >> Portuguese. (The Portuguese had established trade with East Africa,
> >> India, Indonesia and China)
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasa...modern_history
> >>
> >> Janet.
> >
> > That's interesting - I did not know this. Thanks. So that's how the
> > Japanese got castilla cake. Castilla cake is a cake that has only 4
> > ingredients yet is one of the hardest cakes to get right. It is
> > typically sold in gift boxes.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7b9Nutaok
> >
>
>
> The Japanese word for bread is: pan

The Japanese word for apple is ringo. Why ringo? I don't know. Here's Shiina
Ringo symbolically chopping herself to bits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtehTFNJKgo

==============

!! I couldn't watch it all!! What does he do with that knife???


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On 9/18/2016 12:07 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:29:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:07:40 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/18/2016 6:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>>>> This was home for four years:
>>>> https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
>>>> Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
>>>> (destroyer escort) galley:
>>>> http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html
>>>
>>> and yet your links show stoves and pots in a destroyer galley.
>>
>> Sheldon always posts links that disprove what he's trying to say.
>> It's like some sort of mental deficiency.
>
> The stove with pots is in the officer's galley (not the ship's galley)
> only not labeled as such...


"click for panoramic view"

steam kettles and stove and pots - all in the same galley.

On 09/17/2016 02:30 PM, l not -l wrote:

>
> In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more of
> cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller at
> our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store were
> Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
> poured into a bottle of RC cola.
>

We had Moon Pies, RC and Tom's peanuts around where I grew up. One thing
I really miss is Tom's Peanut Patties, a vivid pink peanut praline
concoction. I don't think they're made anymore.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > On 9/18/2016 10:32 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > >> In article >, says...
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/16/2016 12:43 PM, wrote:
> > >>>> In the past both Spain and Portugal were very important.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> That would be true. The Portuguese were the first great explorers of
> > >>> the
> > >>> world. My guess is that a Portuguese sailor landed in Okinawa 600 or
> > >>> so
> > >>> years ago and proceeded to spread his seed around. This resulted in
> > >>> the
> > >>> Okinawans looking distinctly different from the Japanese - hairy and
> > >>> stocky.
> > >>
> > >> 500 years ago Portugal had extensive spice trade links with Japan,
> > >> plus Jesuit Catholic missions there. Nagasaki (city) was founded by
> > >> the
> > >> Portuguese. (The Portuguese had established trade with East Africa,
> > >> India, Indonesia and China)
> > >>
> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasa...modern_history
> > >>
> > >> Janet.
> > >
> > > That's interesting - I did not know this. Thanks. So that's how the
> > > Japanese got castilla cake. Castilla cake is a cake that has only 4
> > > ingredients yet is one of the hardest cakes to get right. It is
> > > typically sold in gift boxes.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7b9Nutaok
> > >
> >
> >
> > The Japanese word for bread is: pan
>
> The Japanese word for apple is ringo. Why ringo? I don't know. Here's Shiina
> Ringo symbolically chopping herself to bits.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtehTFNJKgo
>
> ==============
>
> !! I couldn't watch it all!! What does he do with that knife???
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Whacked a few apples, tried to peel one. It's hard to peel fruit while singing. Well I couldn't do it anyway.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:31:56 AM UTC-10, Whirled Peas wrote:
> On 09/17/2016 02:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>
> >
> > In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more of
> > cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller at
> > our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store were
> > Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
> > poured into a bottle of RC cola.
> >
>
> We had Moon Pies, RC and Tom's peanuts around where I grew up. One thing
> I really miss is Tom's Peanut Patties, a vivid pink peanut praline
> concoction. I don't think they're made anymore.

My brother gave me a box of moon pies. They're made in Korea. They're smaller than American moon pies which makes sense since Koreans are generally smaller than Americans. I'd like to eat on now but they're in the refrigerator at work. Bummers.

http://quirkspace.com/jsfr/?p=1228

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:19:15 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 9/18/2016 12:07 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:29:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:07:40 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/18/2016 6:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>>>>> This was home for four years:
>>>>> https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
>>>>> Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
>>>>> (destroyer escort) galley:
>>>>> http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html
>>>>
>>>> and yet your links show stoves and pots in a destroyer galley.
>>>
>>> Sheldon always posts links that disprove what he's trying to say.
>>> It's like some sort of mental deficiency.
>>
>> The stove with pots is in the officer's galley (not the ship's galley)
>> only not labeled as such...
>
>
>"click for panoramic view"
>
>steam kettles and stove and pots - all in the same galley.

That's the same officer's galley.

On 9/18/2016 2:33 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:19:15 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>> On 9/18/2016 12:07 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:29:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:07:40 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/18/2016 6:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>>>>>> This was home for four years:
>>>>>> https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
>>>>>> Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
>>>>>> (destroyer escort) galley:
>>>>>> http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html
>>>>>
>>>>> and yet your links show stoves and pots in a destroyer galley.
>>>>
>>>> Sheldon always posts links that disprove what he's trying to say.
>>>> It's like some sort of mental deficiency.
>>>
>>> The stove with pots is in the officer's galley (not the ship's galley)
>>> only not labeled as such...
>>
>>
>> "click for panoramic view"
>>
>> steam kettles and stove and pots - all in the same galley.
>
> That's the same officer's galley.
>


Them few officers must be eating a lot of soup!

"Whirled Peas" > wrote in message
...
> On 09/17/2016 02:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>
>>
>> In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more
>> of
>> cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller at
>> our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store were
>> Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
>> poured into a bottle of RC cola.
>>
>
> We had Moon Pies, RC and Tom's peanuts around where I grew up. One thing I
> really miss is Tom's Peanut Patties, a vivid pink peanut praline
> concoction. I don't think they're made anymore.

I believe they are sold at times at the Dollar Tree and the .99 store.

Cheri

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
>
Peanuts in a bottle of Coke/RC has been a favorite 'lunch' in the
South for a loooong time.
>
> I learned a lot about southern food in the navy. I quickly found out
> that most southerners had never seen spaghetti, some wouldn't eat
> those 'worms' while some tried it and liked it so much they could
> easily consume a whole pound and more.
>
I love spaghetti but will admit it was something that was NEVER
served at home when I was a child. Don't ask me why, I don't
know why.
>
> One thing you may find
> surprising is that southerners much prefered ham steaks with red eye
> gravy and breakfast sausages to bacon, it was primarily the
> northerners who prefered bacon and not too crisp, limp was preferred.
>
That will depend on the region and if it's something that was served
when growing up. Personally, I've never had red eye gravy in my life.
Give me milk gravy any day, please.
>
> I baked an awful lot of corn bread in huge roasting pans, it was served
> every day... no one wanted it with bacon grease, the most popular way
> was drowned in white sauce with breakfast sausages (southern SOS.
>
Sorry, but that sounds right damn disgusting.
>
> Corn bread smothered with baked beans was also popular among
> southerners.
>
True.
>
> Northerners preferred pound cake and bread pudding.
>
Another myth. Bread pudding is another Southern staple dessert.
>
> That southerners like blackeyed peas has to be a myth, they only
> wanted navy beans prepared Boston style... most every night I put up
> an 80 quart kopper with beans (a la Heinz pork n' beans style), every
> drop was eaten for breakfast. A kopper is a steam jacketed kettle,
> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>
I've never cared for black eyed peas; muddy tasting to me. That is until
I lucked up on a recipe for spicy black eyed peas. Yum-yum.

What people in the South, or any region, eat is what is common for that
area and especially what each family cooks. Here's an example that
took me a good while to get used to. Potatoes. Potatoes for break-
fast was so odd to me when I'd see them at a restaurant and especially
at a friends home. Potatoes were NEVER on our table for breakfast
when I was a child. Nor were they served at grandparents, uncles,
or aunts homes and the same holds true for grits.

First time I ever saw grits I was 16 years old. I stared at my
plate and couldn't fathom what that white paste on my plate was.
I was less than impressed and that still holds true a hundred
years later.

;-)

In article >,
says...
>
> What people in the South, or any region, eat is what is common for
> that
> area and especially what each family cooks. Here's an example that
> took me a good while to get used to. Potatoes. Potatoes for break-
> fast was so odd to me when I'd see them at a restaurant and especially
> at a friends home. Potatoes were NEVER on our table for breakfast
> when I was a child. Nor were they served at grandparents, uncles,
> or aunts homes and the same holds true for grits.

To this day, I've never ever had potatoes for breakfast.

> First time I ever saw grits I was 16 years old. I stared at my
> plate and couldn't fathom what that white paste on my plate was.
> I was less than impressed and that still holds true a hundred
> years later.

I know one thing for su you look very good for your age.

On 9/18/2016 7:57 PM, Bruce wrote:

>
> To this day, I've never ever had potatoes for breakfast.
>

At home, I may make them twice a year. If we go out for breakfast I may
order home fries or hash browns as we often have a large breakfast but
no lunch.

We never have grits or cornbread. Not popular in this area of the north.

Sf, I can always find red currant jelly in the regular supermarket, where
I usually shop.

N.

On 2016-09-18 8:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/18/2016 7:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> To this day, I've never ever had potatoes for breakfast.
>>
>
> At home, I may make them twice a year. If we go out for breakfast I may
> order home fries or hash browns as we often have a large breakfast but
> no lunch.

We usually only have potatoes w=for breakfast when out son comes for
that meal. He once had 4 day layover in London on his way home from
Africa and was thrilled by the full English breakfast. I used to have
them occasionally with breakfasts with my co-workers.


> We never have grits or cornbread. Not popular in this area of the north.


Cornbread? My mother used to make it once in a while. I have made it a
couple times. I have never seen it in a restaurant. Forget about grits.
I can't even find them in a store here. I can cross the order and get
fast cooking grits, but even I know that fast cooking grits is not real
grits. I once had grits with breakfast in a restaurant in Virginia. I
liked them.

> wrote in message news:2dd96a5d-8976-404c-bf8a-
> First time I ever saw grits I was 16 years old. I stared at my
> plate and couldn't fathom what that white paste on my plate was.
> I was less than impressed and that still holds true a hundred
> years later.
>
> ;-)

Mmmmmmm grits, I loved them.

Cheri

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 6:57:10 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > First time I ever saw grits I was 16 years old. I stared at my
> > plate and couldn't fathom what that white paste on my plate was.
> > I was less than impressed and that still holds true a hundred
> > years later.
>
> I know one thing for su you look very good for your age.
>
>
Uh, thank you, thank you, very much.
(How was my Elvis impression?)

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 6:57:10 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > First time I ever saw grits I was 16 years old. I stared at my
> > > plate and couldn't fathom what that white paste on my plate was.
> > > I was less than impressed and that still holds true a hundred
> > > years later.
> >
> > I know one thing for su you look very good for your age.
> >
> >
> Uh, thank you, thank you, very much.
> (How was my Elvis impression?)

Striking

In article >,
"> wrote:

> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
> >
> Peanuts in a bottle of Coke/RC has been a favorite 'lunch' in the
> South for a loooong time.

Slightly oily bags of Planter's Peanuts were popular in a Coke in a
small town in Nevada in the early sixties. They don't make Planter's
like that anymore.
I'm on a "show a picture" roll, so here's one of cornbread inspired by
this thread. It's still hot and my wife is eating a slice soaked in
milk with sugar. She's a hick, so give her a break.
<http://tinypic.com/r/53mfso/9>

leo

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > On 9/18/2016 10:32 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > >> In article >, says...
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/16/2016 12:43 PM, wrote:
> > >>>> In the past both Spain and Portugal were very important.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> That would be true. The Portuguese were the first great explorers of
> > >>> the
> > >>> world. My guess is that a Portuguese sailor landed in Okinawa 600 or
> > >>> so
> > >>> years ago and proceeded to spread his seed around. This resulted in
> > >>> the
> > >>> Okinawans looking distinctly different from the Japanese - hairy and
> > >>> stocky.
> > >>
> > >> 500 years ago Portugal had extensive spice trade links with Japan,
> > >> plus Jesuit Catholic missions there. Nagasaki (city) was founded by
> > >> the
> > >> Portuguese. (The Portuguese had established trade with East Africa,
> > >> India, Indonesia and China)
> > >>
> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasa...modern_history
> > >>
> > >> Janet.
> > >
> > > That's interesting - I did not know this. Thanks. So that's how the
> > > Japanese got castilla cake. Castilla cake is a cake that has only 4
> > > ingredients yet is one of the hardest cakes to get right. It is
> > > typically sold in gift boxes.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7b9Nutaok
> > >
> >
> >
> > The Japanese word for bread is: pan
>
> The Japanese word for apple is ringo. Why ringo? I don't know. Here's
> Shiina
> Ringo symbolically chopping herself to bits.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtehTFNJKgo
>
> ==============
>
> !! I couldn't watch it all!! What does he do with that knife???
>

Whacked a few apples, tried to peel one. It's hard to peel fruit while
singing. Well I couldn't do it anyway.

=================

LOL nor could I, not with that big knife anyway)



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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:31:56 AM UTC-10, Whirled Peas wrote:
> On 09/17/2016 02:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>
> >
> > In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more
> > of
> > cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller
> > at
> > our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store
> > were
> > Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
> > poured into a bottle of RC cola.
> >
>
> We had Moon Pies, RC and Tom's peanuts around where I grew up. One thing
> I really miss is Tom's Peanut Patties, a vivid pink peanut praline
> concoction. I don't think they're made anymore.

My brother gave me a box of moon pies. They're made in Korea. They're
smaller than American moon pies which makes sense since Koreans are
generally smaller than Americans. I'd like to eat on now but they're in the
refrigerator at work. Bummers.

http://quirkspace.com/jsfr/?p=1228

============

Well I didn't know what 'Moon pies' were but I didn't expect chocolate
cake)

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"Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
...

In article >,
"> wrote:

> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
> >
> Peanuts in a bottle of Coke/RC has been a favorite 'lunch' in the
> South for a loooong time.

Slightly oily bags of Planter's Peanuts were popular in a Coke in a
small town in Nevada in the early sixties. They don't make Planter's
like that anymore.
I'm on a "show a picture" roll, so here's one of cornbread inspired by
this thread. It's still hot and my wife is eating a slice soaked in
milk with sugar. She's a hick, so give her a break.
<http://tinypic.com/r/53mfso/9>

leo

============

Yummm


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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:43:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > On 9/18/2016 10:32 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > > >> In article >, says...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 9/16/2016 12:43 PM, wrote:
> > > >>>> In the past both Spain and Portugal were very important.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That would be true. The Portuguese were the first great explorers of
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> world. My guess is that a Portuguese sailor landed in Okinawa 600 or
> > > >>> so
> > > >>> years ago and proceeded to spread his seed around. This resulted in
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> Okinawans looking distinctly different from the Japanese - hairy and
> > > >>> stocky.
> > > >>
> > > >> 500 years ago Portugal had extensive spice trade links with Japan,
> > > >> plus Jesuit Catholic missions there. Nagasaki (city) was founded by
> > > >> the
> > > >> Portuguese. (The Portuguese had established trade with East Africa,
> > > >> India, Indonesia and China)
> > > >>
> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasa...modern_history
> > > >>
> > > >> Janet.
> > > >
> > > > That's interesting - I did not know this. Thanks. So that's how the
> > > > Japanese got castilla cake. Castilla cake is a cake that has only 4
> > > > ingredients yet is one of the hardest cakes to get right. It is
> > > > typically sold in gift boxes.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7b9Nutaok
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Japanese word for bread is: pan
> >
> > The Japanese word for apple is ringo. Why ringo? I don't know. Here's
> > Shiina
> > Ringo symbolically chopping herself to bits.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtehTFNJKgo
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > !! I couldn't watch it all!! What does he do with that knife???
> >
>
> Whacked a few apples, tried to peel one. It's hard to peel fruit while
> singing. Well I couldn't do it anyway.
>
> =================
>
> LOL nor could I, not with that big knife anyway)
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Tonight I made some meat pies. It looks like a pasty but it's filled with a lemongrass beef filling. I stuck in three small Hawaiian peppers for a little heat. The filling was pretty tasty. You know what would have been even better? Putting some coconut in it! It's a Thai pasty.

https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...ZaBbLc7bInEarf

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:43:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:31:56 AM UTC-10, Whirled Peas wrote:
> > On 09/17/2016 02:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more
> > > of
> > > cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller
> > > at
> > > our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store
> > > were
> > > Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
> > > poured into a bottle of RC cola.
> > >
> >
> > We had Moon Pies, RC and Tom's peanuts around where I grew up. One thing
> > I really miss is Tom's Peanut Patties, a vivid pink peanut praline
> > concoction. I don't think they're made anymore.
>
> My brother gave me a box of moon pies. They're made in Korea. They're
> smaller than American moon pies which makes sense since Koreans are
> generally smaller than Americans. I'd like to eat on now but they're in the
> refrigerator at work. Bummers.
>
> http://quirkspace.com/jsfr/?p=1228
>
> ============
>
> Well I didn't know what 'Moon pies' were but I didn't expect chocolate
> cake)
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Somehow, this product from the Southern states of the US made it's way into here and Korea. I like the Korean version better because it's smaller and less sweet. There are vanilla and banana flavored versions of moon pies but I've never seen a Korean version in those flavors.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 3:25:50 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 4:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 10:49:18 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:41:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please will you explain 'corn pudding'? Remember, my 'pudding' is your
> > > > > > > 'dessert', so i am a bit confused
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it anything like cornbread? If so, why is it call pudding?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A better question is "Why do the British call dessert pudding"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Google doesn't work where you are? The first hit that I got was
> > > > > very believable:
> > > > >
> > > > > <http://greatbritishmag.co.uk/lifestyle/why-do-brits-call-dessert-pudding>
> > > > >
> > > > I knew that already. It's not a real answer, and basically calls them
> > > > classist snobs.
> > >
> > > The English invented the language, so whatever they do, they're always
> > > right.
> >
> > The Romans invented Latin, anything other than Classical Latin is incorrect.

You miss my point. The pronunciation of Latin in Great Britain is different
from Classical Latin. Roman colonies adapted Latin into the modern
Romance language. Language changes. There's no point saying "whatever
they do, they're always right". My grammar-school teacher would rightly
have marked "colour" as incorrect on a spelling test.

> English isn't a Roman language. We'd have to look at Germanic for its
> roots.

Fair enough. The English should be speaking 5th century German,
rather than corrupting it into modern English.

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:43:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:31:56 AM UTC-10, Whirled Peas wrote:
> > On 09/17/2016 02:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought
> > > more
> > > of
> > > cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller
> > > at
> > > our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store
> > > were
> > > Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's
> > > peanuts
> > > poured into a bottle of RC cola.
> > >
> >
> > We had Moon Pies, RC and Tom's peanuts around where I grew up. One thing
> > I really miss is Tom's Peanut Patties, a vivid pink peanut praline
> > concoction. I don't think they're made anymore.
>
> My brother gave me a box of moon pies. They're made in Korea. They're
> smaller than American moon pies which makes sense since Koreans are
> generally smaller than Americans. I'd like to eat on now but they're in
> the
> refrigerator at work. Bummers.
>
> http://quirkspace.com/jsfr/?p=1228
>
> ============
>
> Well I didn't know what 'Moon pies' were but I didn't expect chocolate
> cake)
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Somehow, this product from the Southern states of the US made it's way into
here and Korea. I like the Korean version better because it's smaller and
less sweet. There are vanilla and banana flavored versions of moon pies but
I've never seen a Korean version in those flavors.

========

Well you have seen more than I have)


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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:43:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
> > > On 9/18/2016 10:32 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > > >> In article >, says...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 9/16/2016 12:43 PM, wrote:
> > > >>>> In the past both Spain and Portugal were very important.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That would be true. The Portuguese were the first great explorers
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> world. My guess is that a Portuguese sailor landed in Okinawa 600
> > > >>> or
> > > >>> so
> > > >>> years ago and proceeded to spread his seed around. This resulted
> > > >>> in
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> Okinawans looking distinctly different from the Japanese - hairy
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> stocky.
> > > >>
> > > >> 500 years ago Portugal had extensive spice trade links with
> > > >> Japan,
> > > >> plus Jesuit Catholic missions there. Nagasaki (city) was founded
> > > >> by
> > > >> the
> > > >> Portuguese. (The Portuguese had established trade with East Africa,
> > > >> India, Indonesia and China)
> > > >>
> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasa...modern_history
> > > >>
> > > >> Janet.
> > > >
> > > > That's interesting - I did not know this. Thanks. So that's how the
> > > > Japanese got castilla cake. Castilla cake is a cake that has only 4
> > > > ingredients yet is one of the hardest cakes to get right. It is
> > > > typically sold in gift boxes.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7b9Nutaok
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Japanese word for bread is: pan
> >
> > The Japanese word for apple is ringo. Why ringo? I don't know. Here's
> > Shiina
> > Ringo symbolically chopping herself to bits.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtehTFNJKgo
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > !! I couldn't watch it all!! What does he do with that knife???
> >
>
> Whacked a few apples, tried to peel one. It's hard to peel fruit while
> singing. Well I couldn't do it anyway.
>
> =================
>
> LOL nor could I, not with that big knife anyway)
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Tonight I made some meat pies. It looks like a pasty but it's filled with a
lemongrass beef filling. I stuck in three small Hawaiian peppers for a
little heat. The filling was pretty tasty. You know what would have been
even better? Putting some coconut in it! It's a Thai pasty.

https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...ZaBbLc7bInEarf

=============

That looks wonderful. The pastry is superb!!! Not sure if I could manage
to eat the filling though) I can't manage even a little heat

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In article >,
says...
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 3:25:50 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 4:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 10:49:18 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:41:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please will you explain 'corn pudding'? Remember, my 'pudding' is your
> > > > > > > > 'dessert', so i am a bit confused
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it anything like cornbread? If so, why is it call pudding?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A better question is "Why do the British call dessert pudding"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Google doesn't work where you are? The first hit that I got was
> > > > > > very believable:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <http://greatbritishmag.co.uk/lifestyle/why-do-brits-call-dessert-pudding>
> > > > > >
> > > > > I knew that already. It's not a real answer, and basically calls them
> > > > > classist snobs.
> > > >
> > > > The English invented the language, so whatever they do, they're always
> > > > right.
> > >
> > > The Romans invented Latin, anything other than Classical Latin is incorrect.
>
> You miss my point.

You're talking to yourself here. "The Romans invented Latin..." is your
own text.

> The pronunciation of Latin in Great Britain is different
> from Classical Latin. Roman colonies adapted Latin into the modern
> Romance language. Language changes. There's no point saying "whatever
> they do, they're always right". My grammar-school teacher would rightly
> have marked "colour" as incorrect on a spelling test.

Yes, language changes and you all go your own ways. But to say that the
inventors of the language are speaking it incorrectly, is contradictory.

> > English isn't a Roman language. We'd have to look at Germanic for its
> > roots.
>
> Fair enough. The English should be speaking 5th century German,
> rather than corrupting it into modern English.

Germanic isn't German. It's the parent of English, German and Dutch.

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:49:48 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>What people in the South, or any region, eat is what is common for that
>area and especially what each family cooks. Here's an example that
>took me a good while to get used to. Potatoes. Potatoes for break-
>fast was so odd to me when I'd see them at a restaurant and especially
>at a friends home. Potatoes were NEVER on our table for breakfast
>when I was a child. Nor were they served at grandparents, uncles,
>or aunts homes and the same holds true for grits.


anyone who was raised without ever having grits or hashbrowns for
breakfast must have been a Communist...thank God you saw the light and
got the hell out of there...

William

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:56:39 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>"l not -l" wrote:
>>>Gary wrote:
>>> > itsjoannotjoan wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > In many Southern homes cornbread is on the table EVERY
>>> > > night at dinnertime.
>>> >
>>> > And you know that how?
>>> >
>>> Ummmmmmm, because *I* live in the South. Does that
>>> answer your question?
>>> >
>>> > Sounds like you are just stereotyping Southern people.
>>> >
>>> I've lived in the South ALL my life and I have a fair idea
>>> of what we eat.
>>> >
>>> > Do all black people love watermelon and Moon Pies?
>>> >
>>> How did watermelon, Moon Pies and black people enter into
>>> this conversation? I'm not black and I love watermelon
>>> but I detest Moon Pies. If I live to be 100 and never see
>>> another Moon Pie again it will be too soon.
>>
>>I lived in the south (Kentucky) from birth until I was 12, and continue to
>>have ties (family and property) there still. One of my grandmothers had
>>biscuits AND cornbread (or corn muffins, cakes, sticks, etc) on the table
>>every meal I ever had there. Those grandparents were share-cropppers and
>>had several family members working the fields; dinner (noon meal) always
>>included feeding the "hands". My other grandmother, though she had in
>>earlier years, did not cook for field hands; she always had biscuits OR
>>cornbread on the table. One of my favorite things to eat as a child was
>>cornbread with butter and sorghum.
>>
>>I have noticed that a lot of people don't really understand "southern" food.
>>What is often called "soul" food is thought to be for African Americans; the
>>reality is, it is what cash-poor people ate. Sometimes when I checkout at
>>the supermarket an AA checker will ask me why I have collards, or hocks or
>>smoked jowl or whatever. A share-cropper family ate the stuff they couldn't
>>sell at a good price and, much of the year, had little cash; therefore
>>bought only necessary pantry items. In addition to food from the garden, my
>>grandparents would forage; we ate collards and other greens when my
>>grandfather found them growing wild in/near his fields. Soul food is what
>>people of limited means lived on; and, they learned how to make it taste
>>great.
>>
>>In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more of
>>cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller at
>>our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store were
>>Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
>>poured into a bottle of RC cola.
>>
>>Thanks for sharing. I love hearing how families lived 'back in the day'!
>
>Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
>I learned a lot about southern food in the navy being that about 75%
>of the crew were southerners and of those more than half were black. I
>was constantly being told the "right" way to cook this and that like
>it was done at home, and lots of arguments ensued between southerners
>from differeent areas, even from the same state. I quickly found out
>that most southerners had never seen spaghetti, some wouldn't eat
>those 'worms' while some tried it and liked it so much they could
>easily consume a whole pound and more. One thing you may find
>surprising is that southerners much prefered ham steaks with red eye
>gravy and breakfast sausages to bacon, it was primarily the
>northerners who prefered bacon and not too crisp, limp was prefered. I
>baked an awful lot of corn bread in huge roasting pans, it was served
>every day... no one wanted it with bacon grease, the most popular way
>was drowned in white sauce with breakfast sausages (southern SOS).
>Corn bread smothered with baked beans was also popular among
>southerners. Northerners preferred pound cake and bread pudding.
>That southerners like blackeyed peas has to be a myth, they only
>wanted navy beans prepared Boston style... most every night I put up
>an 80 quart kopper with beans (a la Heinz pork n' beans style), every
>drop was eaten for breakfast. A kopper is a steam jacketed kettle,
>there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>This was home for four years:
>https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
>Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
>(destroyer escort) galley:
>http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html


you jogged my memory Sheldon. My southern Mom hated Brocoli, so I
never tasted it until I started eating in a Navy chow hall. Thats all
I wanted to eat the first day I tasted it!

It's funny, after I accidentally turned my daughter away from beef as
a young child (I took her in Fuddruckers and she saw a side of beef
hanging beside us as we were ordering) she has never eaten beef since.
My Son was grilling steak and my daughter told him my five year old
grandson would not eat steak. The boy walked up beside the grill
obviously smelling the steak cooking and asked what it was. My Son
gave him a bite and he then ate a whole New York Strip steak. He said
his Mom never gave him that before.

William

"William" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:49:48 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>What people in the South, or any region, eat is what is common for that
>area and especially what each family cooks. Here's an example that
>took me a good while to get used to. Potatoes. Potatoes for break-
>fast was so odd to me when I'd see them at a restaurant and especially
>at a friends home. Potatoes were NEVER on our table for breakfast
>when I was a child. Nor were they served at grandparents, uncles,
>or aunts homes and the same holds true for grits.


anyone who was raised without ever having grits or hashbrowns for
breakfast must have been a Communist...thank God you saw the light and
got the hell out of there...

William

==============

Oh dear ... I am not a Communist .. honestly



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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 9/18/2016 7:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >
> > To this day, I've never ever had potatoes for breakfast.
> >
>
> At home, I may make them twice a year. If we go out for breakfast I may
> order home fries or hash browns as we often have a large breakfast but
> no lunch.


I usually add a potato in some form when I eat "breakfast for dinner."

> We never have grits or cornbread. Not popular in this area of the north.

Grits and cornbread is not a "thing" here in Virginia Beach either. I
don't know of anyone that eats either except for an occasional thing. I
only make cornbread when I make chili. I make chili about once every 2-3
years.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Sf, I can always find red currant jelly in the regular supermarket, where
> I usually shop.

Last week, I saw ant bought Orange Marmalade. Oh man...good!
I haven't had that in probably 30 years or so but it's so good
just for a little treat on toasted bun with butter, or peanut butter,
and a spoonful of the marmalade on top. YUM!

I have never eaten red currant jelly. Guess I should look for it.

I always have orange marmalade in my fridge...it makes even ordinary toast really
good.

I like red currant jelly because it is sweet and tangy at the same time.

N.

"Nancy2" wrote in message
...

I always have orange marmalade in my fridge...it makes even ordinary toast
really
good.

I like red currant jelly because it is sweet and tangy at the same time.

N.
===========

I keep some red currant jelly in my fridge but it only gets used on turkey
or similar.

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On 2016-09-19 11:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> Sf, I can always find red currant jelly in the regular supermarket, where
>> I usually shop.
>
> Last week, I saw ant bought Orange Marmalade. Oh man...good!
> I haven't had that in probably 30 years or so but it's so good
> just for a little treat on toasted bun with butter, or peanut butter,
> and a spoonful of the marmalade on top. YUM!


Good marmalade is a real treat. Do yourself a favour and buy some of the
premium stuff. Better yet, make it. Seville oranges are in season in
January or February. Buy some. Juice them and save the pits in a cheese
cloth bag. Cut the peel into thin slices and then toss them and the
juice into a pot and add enough water to cover and then simmer them for
an hour or so until you can pinch them between your thumb and finger.
Then cook up the mash in small quantities with equal parts of mash and
sugar. Bring it to a rolling boil and stir, testing it occasionally buy
dribbling it on an inverted bowl or cup to see it will set. Pour it into
sterilized jars and put the tops on.


> I have never eaten red currant jelly. Guess I should look for it.
I am not all that cray about red currant jelly, but the black currant
stuff is incredible. IMO jam is better than jelly. It has a more
interesting texture.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
> ...
>
> In article >,
> "> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:56:56 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
>> >
>> Peanuts in a bottle of Coke/RC has been a favorite 'lunch' in the
>> South for a loooong time.
>
> Slightly oily bags of Planter's Peanuts were popular in a Coke in a
> small town in Nevada in the early sixties. They don't make Planter's
> like that anymore.
> I'm on a "show a picture" roll, so here's one of cornbread inspired by
> this thread. It's still hot and my wife is eating a slice soaked in
> milk with sugar. She's a hick, so give her a break.
> <http://tinypic.com/r/53mfso/9>
>
> leo
>
> ============
>
> Yummm

Double Yummm!

Cheri

"dsi1" > wrote in message news:fff3f303-ee42-455f-a202-

Tonight I made some meat pies. It looks like a pasty but it's filled with a
lemongrass beef filling. I stuck in three small Hawaiian peppers for a
little heat. The filling was pretty tasty. You know what would have been
even better? Putting some coconut in it! It's a Thai pasty.

https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...ZaBbLc7bInEarf

=======

That looks soooooooooooo good, flaky pastry and all!

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> Sf, I can always find red currant jelly in the regular supermarket, where
>> I usually shop.
>
> Last week, I saw ant bought Orange Marmalade. Oh man...good!
> I haven't had that in probably 30 years or so but it's so good
> just for a little treat on toasted bun with butter, or peanut butter,
> and a spoonful of the marmalade on top. YUM!
>
> I have never eaten red currant jelly. Guess I should look for it.

Safeway if you have one, and Marshall's usually has it.

Cheri