Is this a metaphor?

"We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."

[Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]



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Ophelia wrote:
>
> Is this a metaphor?
>
> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
> filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]

It's just a stupid statistic comment. Those school buses do contain
children going to school. There are not 127 school buses driving around
filled with straws. A worthless "apples and oranges" comment.

And people are gainfully employed making those straws. No school bus
drivers necessary.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> Is this a metaphor?
>
> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school
> buses
> filled with straws. It€„¢s disgusting. There should be children in those
> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]

It's just a stupid statistic comment. Those school buses do contain
children going to school. There are not 127 school buses driving around
filled with straws. A worthless "apples and oranges" comment.

And people are gainfully employed making those straws. No school bus
drivers necessary.

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Oh! Thank you.

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Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Is this a metaphor?
>>
>> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
>> filled with straws. It???s disgusting. There should be children in those
>> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>>
>> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]
>
> It's just a stupid statistic comment. Those school buses do contain
> children going to school. There are not 127 school buses driving around
> filled with straws. A worthless "apples and oranges" comment.
>
> And people are gainfully employed making those straws. No school bus
> drivers necessary.

well you know there are those empty school buses going out to pick up
the first set of kids -- they could be used to transport straws -- seems
wasteful just to be driving empty school buses around

"tert in seattle" wrote in message
...

Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Is this a metaphor?
>>
>> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school
>> buses
>> filled with straws. It???s disgusting. There should be children in those
>> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>>
>> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]
>
> It's just a stupid statistic comment. Those school buses do contain
> children going to school. There are not 127 school buses driving around
> filled with straws. A worthless "apples and oranges" comment.
>
> And people are gainfully employed making those straws. No school bus
> drivers necessary.

well you know there are those empty school buses going out to pick up
the first set of kids -- they could be used to transport straws -- seems
wasteful just to be driving empty school buses around

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<g> such a shocking waste!


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tert in seattle wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >> Is this a metaphor?
> >>
> >> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
> >> filled with straws. It???s disgusting. There should be children in those
> >> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
> >>
> >> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]
> >
> > It's just a stupid statistic comment. Those school buses do contain
> > children going to school. There are not 127 school buses driving around
> > filled with straws. A worthless "apples and oranges" comment.
> >
> > And people are gainfully employed making those straws. No school bus
> > drivers necessary.
>
> well you know there are those empty school buses going out to pick up
> the first set of kids -- they could be used to transport straws -- seems
> wasteful just to be driving empty school buses around

Good thought! They could take straws AND kids to school all in one bus.

"Ahhhh.......POLO!" (I love that Geico commercial) :-D

On 9/16/2016 1:13 PM, Gary wrote:

> Good thought! They could take straws AND kids to school all in one bus.
>
> "Ahhhh.......POLO!" (I love that Geico commercial) :-D
>

Ice T? Read the sign. They have a very creative ad agency.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 9/16/2016 1:13 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> > Good thought! They could take straws AND kids to school all in one bus.
> >
> > "Ahhhh.......POLO!" (I love that Geico commercial) :-D
> >
>
> Ice T? Read the sign. They have a very creative ad agency.

Yep..that new one too.

Geico has the best advertising agency ever. I always wonder though if
all that massive advertising really pays off? I enjoy their commercials
yet I'm never tempted to switch my insurance to Geico. I actually did
use them for years until I found cheaper all around insurance
(Nationwide)

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> Is this a metaphor?
>
> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
> filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."

It was a stupid, mixed metaphor.

I believe we could do with a lot fewer straws. I took great pains to
learn to drink from an actual cup. Why do so many adults still use
a straw? It's just like using a "sippy cup".

Granted, they're useful, for example, in hospitals when someone
is holding the cup for you, or you can't coordinate all of those
familiar actions yourself.

If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
at our nearby Thai place.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> > Is this a metaphor?
> >
> > "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
> > filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
> > school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> It was a stupid, mixed metaphor.
>
> I believe we could do with a lot fewer straws. I took great pains to
> learn to drink from an actual cup. Why do so many adults still use
> a straw? It's just like using a "sippy cup".
>
> Granted, they're useful, for example, in hospitals when someone
> is holding the cup for you, or you can't coordinate all of those
> familiar actions yourself.
>
> If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
> and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
> at our nearby Thai place.

We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> > Is this a metaphor?
> >
> > "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school
> > buses
> > filled with straws. It€„¢s disgusting. There should be children in those
> > school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> It was a stupid, mixed metaphor.
>
> I believe we could do with a lot fewer straws. I took great pains to
> learn to drink from an actual cup. Why do so many adults still use
> a straw? It's just like using a "sippy cup".
>
> Granted, they're useful, for example, in hospitals when someone
> is holding the cup for you, or you can't coordinate all of those
> familiar actions yourself.
>
> If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
> and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
> at our nearby Thai place.

We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
===========

I used to have some straws which I used to suck air out of bags before I got
my food saver <g>



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Ophelia wrote:
>
> I used to have some straws which I used to suck air out of bags before I got
> my food saver <g>

Hey! I used to do that too. Now I just skip the straw. My frozen food
doesn't stay frozen long enough for me to worry about getting ALL the
air out. I buy food to freeze and go through it in a very short time.
Vacuum packaging not necessary here.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I used to have some straws which I used to suck air out of bags before I
> got
> my food saver <g>

Hey! I used to do that too. Now I just skip the straw. My frozen food
doesn't stay frozen long enough for me to worry about getting ALL the
air out. I buy food to freeze and go through it in a very short time.
Vacuum packaging not necessary here.
=======

I do it when when I use the sous vide I often make a lot at once and then
freeze. The plastic pockets are very strong which I prefer for that kind of
work.



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On 2016-09-16 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
>> and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
>> at our nearby Thai place.
>
> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
>


Sure. The next time you are served a drink with a straw don't use it.
Better yet. Send the drink back.

On 2016-09-16, Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 2016-09-16 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:

>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>> If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
>>> and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
>>> at our nearby Thai place.

>> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D

> Sure. The next time you are served a drink with a straw don't use it.
> Better yet. Send the drink back.

I kinda doubt it. Most retailers are loathe to give out anything,
anymore. I noticed almost 20 yrs ago, restos, fast food joints, etc,
did NOT give one all that junk. Hadda ask for more than one wimpy
napkin, hadda go up to the drink station and get a straw from the
straw dispenser. Drive-thrus were even worse. Hadda ask for more dipping
suace for more than 2 'nuggets'. Heck, now that I'm here in CO, some
mom/pop retailers use recycled plastic bags. Yeah!

nb

On 9/16/2016 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:

>
> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
>

And school buses. Let the kids walk!

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 9/16/2016 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:

>
> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
>

And school buses. Let the kids walk!

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Aww cruel man!!



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On 2016-09-16 3:59 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>>
>> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
>>
>
> And school buses. Let the kids walk!

Amen.

Let them walk at least a short distance. I have been stuck behind school
buses a few times and it is exasperating. I have been stuck behind them
in the morning when the bus stops, lights flashing and stop arm out...
no kid. The bus sits there, holding up traffic. Then some kid finally
comes out of the house, dawdles up the the bus, to a seat, sits down.
The bus finally turns off its lights, starts to move. It goes two
driveways down the road and the slow process starts all over again.

It is just as bad in the afternoon. The bus stops and sits there with
the lights flashing. You sit there and watch, and nothing is happening.
After a minute or two one of the kids at the back gets up heads to the
front, stopping to talk to more people along the way. Finally, the
lights go off and the bus starts rolling, but then it stops two or three
driveways later and the whole process is repeated.

If I ran the world the buses would stick to a schedule and the kids
would be standing by the side of the road waiting for the bus. No
kids... no stop. On the afternoon run the bus would stop at the
designated place and if there was no movement from the back of the bus
within 10 seconds, the lights would go off and the bus would start
moving again. I am pretty sure that it would take only a couple missed
buses or missed stops and the little darlings would learn to to be out
there on time and to get off at their stops.

On 9/16/2016 7:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> Let them walk at least a short distance. I have been stuck behind school
> buses a few times and it is exasperating. I have been stuck behind them
> in the morning when the bus stops, lights flashing and stop arm out...
> no kid. The bus sits there, holding up traffic. Then some kid finally
> comes out of the house, dawdles up the the bus, to a seat, sits down.
> The bus finally turns off its lights, starts to move. It goes two
> driveways down the road and the slow process starts all over again.

The other scenario is the kid in the car. It is 65 degrees, sun is
shining, but mom pulls the car 75 feet down to the road while junior
sits in comfort until the bus comes. After he dawdles out to the bus,
mom backs up to the house again.

>

> If I ran the world the buses would stick to a schedule and the kids
> would be standing by the side of the road waiting for the bus. No
> kids... no stop. On the afternoon run the bus would stop at the
> designated place and if there was no movement from the back of the bus
> within 10 seconds, the lights would go off and the bus would start
> moving again.

Sounds like a plan.

Dave Smith wrote:

> It is just as bad in the afternoon. The bus stops and sits there with
> the lights flashing. You sit there and watch, and nothing is happening.
> After a minute or two one of the kids at the back gets up heads to the
> front, stopping to talk to more people along the way. Finally, the
> lights go off and the bus starts rolling, but then it stops two or three
> driveways later and the whole process is repeated.

they recognize your car

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:59:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/16/2016 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>>
>> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
>>
>
>And school buses. Let the kids walk!

What a concept: walking to school. Outrageous!

I ask for a straw with drinks with ice in them so I can guide the freezing liquid
past my front teeth which are really sensitive to cold. I refuse to apologize
for my use of straws. I seldom eat out, anyway.

N.

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 9:21:44 PM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> I ask for a straw with drinks with ice in them so I can guide the freezing liquid
> past my front teeth which are really sensitive to cold. I refuse to apologize
> for my use of straws. I seldom eat out, anyway.

No need to apologize. Your situation falls under my general rubric
of "has a medical need". I used a hospital situation only for illustrative
purposes. It's the one I'm most familiar with.

As a hypothetical, if you were in a restaurant and the general policy was
"only provide straws if the customer asks for them", would that bother
you?

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy, no, I always ask for a straw just in case they don't bring one.
But if I were eating at some five-star place, I likely wouldn't need ice
water, I would have plenty of wine, so wouldn't need to ask. ;-))

N.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> I ask for a straw with drinks with ice in them so I can guide the freezing liquid
>> past my front teeth which are really sensitive to cold. I refuse to apologize
>> for my use of straws. I seldom eat out, anyway.
>
>No need to apologize. Your situation falls under my general rubric
>of "has a medical need". I used a hospital situation only for illustrative
>purposes. It's the one I'm most familiar with.
>
>As a hypothetical, if you were in a restaurant and the general policy was
>"only provide straws if the customer asks for them", would that bother
>you?
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I read an artical recently that said plastic drinking straws are a
major polluter.
https://www.kcet.org/redefine/cut-do...o-straw-please
I think people who want drinking straws should provide their own, then
they'd be apt to reuse them several times. As a kid there were
plastic fun straws with various comic book themes:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Unique-In...Packs/32351574
Some of yoose Liberals and Bernie fans may like this one:
http://tinyurl.com/3uv69h

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
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On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> Is this a metaphor?
>
> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school
> buses
> filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."

It was a stupid, mixed metaphor.

I believe we could do with a lot fewer straws. I took great pains to
learn to drink from an actual cup. Why do so many adults still use
a straw? It's just like using a "sippy cup".

Granted, they're useful, for example, in hospitals when someone
is holding the cup for you, or you can't coordinate all of those
familiar actions yourself.

If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
at our nearby Thai place.

Cindy Hamilton

===================

I have never been offered a straw in a restaurant ... or anywhere come to
think of it



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On 2016-09-16 12:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
>> filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
>> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> It was a stupid, mixed metaphor.
>
> I believe we could do with a lot fewer straws. I took great pains to
> learn to drink from an actual cup. Why do so many adults still use
> a straw? It's just like using a "sippy cup".
>
> Granted, they're useful, for example, in hospitals when someone
> is holding the cup for you, or you can't coordinate all of those
> familiar actions yourself.
>
> If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten a straw in a restaurant
> and just pushed it aside, I could retire. It happened just last weekend
> at our nearby Thai place.

Straws were fun when I was a kid, but I have grown up. I hate those
silly little straws they put in drinks in bars. They may be handy for
drinking milkshakes, but I have not had one of those in years. I had
to buy some straws last year when my wife had retinal surgery and had to
keep her head facing down for 10 days.

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 6:04:17 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> Is this a metaphor?
>
> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school buses
> filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Mostly it's an example of people that have too much time on their hands and feel the need to express their outrage at something - it doesn't really matter what. Just any little thing will do. Hey wait a minute, doesn't that sound familiar?

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 6:04:17 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> Is this a metaphor?
>
> "We consume 500 million straws each day. The equivalent of 127 school
> buses
> filled with straws. Its disgusting. There should be children in those
> school buses, going to school, to learn, not straws."
>
> [Adrian Grenier to NY Mag / Anna Silman]
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Mostly it's an example of people that have too much time on their hands and
feel the need to express their outrage at something - it doesn't really
matter what. Just any little thing will do. Hey wait a minute, doesn't that
sound familiar?

===========

It does indeed)


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On 9/16/2016 6:56 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 16-Sep-2016, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2016 12:56 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We can all do our part to save the earth by boycotting straws. :-D
>>>
>>
>> And school buses. Let the kids walk!
> Yeah; I had too - up hill both ways - and it didn't do me any harm. 8-)
>
Up hill both ways in the snow, holding a baked potato in mittened hands
to keep warm. Then the potato was eaten cold for lunch with a small
packet of salt.

Jill