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dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:42:24 AM UTC-10, Steve Freides > wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 4:02:30 AM UTC-10, >>> wrote: >>>> For the last decade or so, we've bought exactly one oil to keep in >>>> our kitchen, a non-EV olive from Trader Joe's. We're now >>>> considering alternatives. I tried canola oil - seems fine. We >>>> mostly use it to sautée but also use it wherever and whenever we >>>> need, e.g., baking, on salads, frying. I'm considering keeping >>>> one oil for cooking and getting some EV olive oil for salads. >>>> >>>> Your thoughts appreciated, and thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> -S- >>> >>> My daughter made a chocolate cake with almost a cup of coconut oil. >>> It tastes like coconut chocolate cake. I used some on my hair >>> yesterday. It works pretty good on hair too. Smelled great when >>> first put on - later on it smelled like candle wax. >> >> Refined coconut oil is better for things that you don't want to taste >> like coconut. We keep a jar of each here. >> >> -S- > > There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that using > coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut oil with > no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. Coconut is very good for you - that's why use we use the refined version. -S- |
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On 9/25/2016 1:52 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:42:24 AM UTC-10, Steve Freides >> wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 4:02:30 AM UTC-10, >>>> wrote: >>>>> For the last decade or so, we've bought exactly one oil to keep in >>>>> our kitchen, a non-EV olive from Trader Joe's. We're now >>>>> considering alternatives. I tried canola oil - seems fine. We >>>>> mostly use it to sautée but also use it wherever and whenever we >>>>> need, e.g., baking, on salads, frying. I'm considering keeping >>>>> one oil for cooking and getting some EV olive oil for salads. >>>>> >>>>> Your thoughts appreciated, and thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> -S- >>>> >>>> My daughter made a chocolate cake with almost a cup of coconut oil. >>>> It tastes like coconut chocolate cake. I used some on my hair >>>> yesterday. It works pretty good on hair too. Smelled great when >>>> first put on - later on it smelled like candle wax. >>> >>> Refined coconut oil is better for things that you don't want to taste >>> like coconut. We keep a jar of each here. >>> >>> -S- >> >> There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that using >> coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut oil with >> no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. > > Coconut is very good for you - Who says? |
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On 2016-09-25 5:40 PM, graham wrote:
> On 9/25/2016 1:52 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>> There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that using >>> coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut oil with >>> no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. >> >> Coconut is very good for you - > > Who says? The materials I got in Cardiac Rehab said to eat lots of fruit.... but not coconut. |
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On 2016-09-25 6:13 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > says... >> >> On 2016-09-25 5:40 PM, graham wrote: >>> On 9/25/2016 1:52 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >> >>>>> There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that using >>>>> coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut oil with >>>>> no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. >>>> >>>> Coconut is very good for you - >>> >>> Who says? >> >> The materials I got in Cardiac Rehab said to eat lots of fruit.... but >> not coconut. > > Because of the saturated fat, I guess? And isn't fruit bad, these days, > because of the sugar? > I make no claim to being an expert on the subject, but my understanding is that it is high in saturated fats and leads to increases cholesterol levels. http://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/ne...-and-the-heart |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:06:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2016-09-25 6:13 PM, Bruce wrote: > > In article >, > > says... > >> > >> On 2016-09-25 5:40 PM, graham wrote: > >>> On 9/25/2016 1:52 PM, Steve Freides wrote: > >> > >>>>> There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that using > >>>>> coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut oil with > >>>>> no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. > >>>> > >>>> Coconut is very good for you - > >>> > >>> Who says? > >> > >> The materials I got in Cardiac Rehab said to eat lots of fruit.... but > >> not coconut. > > > > Because of the saturated fat, I guess? And isn't fruit bad, these days, > > because of the sugar? > > Whole fruit - limit juice to very little, preferably none. > > I make no claim to being an expert on the subject, but my understanding > is that it is high in saturated fats and leads to increases cholesterol > levels. > > > > http://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/ne...-and-the-heart You know what they say: everything in moderation. Hubby was also told coconut milk/cream/oil was bad after his stents were put in. I figured I could start using them after he had given the stents a few years to become part of his body. We don't overdo anything and so far, so good (knock on wood). -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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graham wrote:
> On 9/25/2016 1:52 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:42:24 AM UTC-10, Steve Freides >>> wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 4:02:30 AM UTC-10, >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> For the last decade or so, we've bought exactly one oil to keep >>>>>> in our kitchen, a non-EV olive from Trader Joe's. We're now >>>>>> considering alternatives. I tried canola oil - seems fine. We >>>>>> mostly use it to sautée but also use it wherever and whenever we >>>>>> need, e.g., baking, on salads, frying. I'm considering keeping >>>>>> one oil for cooking and getting some EV olive oil for salads. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your thoughts appreciated, and thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> -S- >>>>> >>>>> My daughter made a chocolate cake with almost a cup of coconut >>>>> oil. It tastes like coconut chocolate cake. I used some on my hair >>>>> yesterday. It works pretty good on hair too. Smelled great when >>>>> first put on - later on it smelled like candle wax. >>>> >>>> Refined coconut oil is better for things that you don't want to >>>> taste like coconut. We keep a jar of each here. >>>> >>>> -S- >>> >>> There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that using >>> coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut oil with >>> no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. >> >> Coconut is very good for you - > > Who says? Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, dietary cholesterol doesn't raise blood cholesterol - all that stuff is old misinformation. I thought the benefits of coconut oil were widely known and accepted by this point, but I guess not. Let's see, there's a book called The Coconut Oil Miracle, Dr. Mercola has very good things to say about coconut oil. Speaking for myself, I don't get tons of coconut oil in my diet but, to broaden the topic slightly, I do make an effort to get a lot of fat in my diet and, over the years have succeded in raising my good cholesterol number and my cholesterol ratio. My understanding is that not only is coconut oil good for you, but having a higher value for the good kind of cholesterol is actually protective - it's associated with _lower_ risk of coronary and other disease. As the research supported by the sugar industry continues to get debunked, I predict that no one will question the value of the kinds of fat in coconut oil in 50 years. But for now, doubt if you wish but you do so, IMHO, at the risk of your own health. One of these days, the total cholesterol number will stop being viewed as predictive of any health consequences - hasn't happened yet, but it will. -S- |
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On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 2:10:06 PM UTC-4, Steve Freides wrote:
> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, Within reason. If I ate 10,000 calories of fat per day and zero carbohydrates, I'd still gain weight. > dietary cholesterol > doesn't raise blood cholesterol - all that stuff is old misinformation. > I thought the benefits of coconut oil were widely known and accepted by > this point, but I guess not. Let's see, there's a book called The > Coconut Oil Miracle, Dr. Mercola has very good things to say about > coconut oil. Oh, I hate the word "miracle". It makes my fraud alarms jangle. Cindy Hamilton |
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I fry hotdogs and eggs in butter and use safflower oil to grease the pieplate I make mac and cheese in.
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Bruce wrote:
> In article >, says... >> >> graham wrote: >>> On 9/25/2016 1:52 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:42:24 AM UTC-10, Steve Freides >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 4:02:30 AM UTC-10, >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> For the last decade or so, we've bought exactly one oil to keep >>>>>>>> in our kitchen, a non-EV olive from Trader Joe's. We're now >>>>>>>> considering alternatives. I tried canola oil - seems fine. We >>>>>>>> mostly use it to sautée but also use it wherever and whenever >>>>>>>> we need, e.g., baking, on salads, frying. I'm considering >>>>>>>> keeping one oil for cooking and getting some EV olive oil for >>>>>>>> salads. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your thoughts appreciated, and thanks in advance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -S- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My daughter made a chocolate cake with almost a cup of coconut >>>>>>> oil. It tastes like coconut chocolate cake. I used some on my >>>>>>> hair yesterday. It works pretty good on hair too. Smelled great >>>>>>> when first put on - later on it smelled like candle wax. >>>>>> >>>>>> Refined coconut oil is better for things that you don't want to >>>>>> taste like coconut. We keep a jar of each here. >>>>>> >>>>>> -S- >>>>> >>>>> There's nothing wrong with chocolate coconut cake except that >>>>> using coconut oil as flavoring is way too costly. Refined coconut >>>>> oil with no coconut flavoring seems to be the worst of two worlds. >>>> >>>> Coconut is very good for you - >>> >>> Who says? >> >> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, dietary cholesterol >> doesn't raise blood cholesterol > > But saturated fat does. > >> - all that stuff is old misinformation. >> I thought the benefits of coconut oil were widely known and accepted >> by this point, but I guess not. Let's see, there's a book called The >> Coconut Oil Miracle, Dr. Mercola has very good things to say about >> coconut oil. > > He's a kook, right? I don't think he's a kook; I don't subscribe to his site or newsletter or anything like that, and he's got supplements to sell, but I don't think he's a cook. >> Speaking for myself, I don't get tons of coconut oil in my diet but, >> to broaden the topic slightly, I do make an effort to get a lot of >> fat in my diet and, over the years have succeded in raising my good >> cholesterol number and my cholesterol ratio. My understanding is >> that not only is coconut oil good for you, but having a higher value >> for the good kind of cholesterol is actually protective - it's >> associated with _lower_ risk of coronary and other disease. >> >> As the research supported by the sugar industry continues to get >> debunked, I predict that no one will question the value of the kinds >> of fat in coconut oil in 50 years. But for now, doubt if you wish >> but you do so, IMHO, at the risk of your own health. One of these >> days, the total cholesterol number will stop being viewed as >> predictive of any health consequences - hasn't happened yet, but it >> will. > > That may or may not be true, but so far mainstream medecine disagrees > with you, including all the world's Heart Associations. You'll > probably say that they're old school, using old information and that > the kooks are correct, but you could at least add that. You added it so no need for me to do the same.  My doctor, and some other doctors, are a bit more progressive - they read the latest research and they form their own opinions, e.g., perhaps 3 or 4 years ago, my doctor told me that the three kinds of cholesterol they test have been found not to be a fine-grained enough tool - apparently there are types within the types, and those new types are much better predictors of future health consequences. But the insurance company, at least the last time I had a physical, wouldn't pay for the better tests, even though they're available. If I may go all "kooky" on you and change the subject yet again, try this BBC documentary from 1998 http://youtube.com/watch?v=ADf6Ol1KmmyY or Google BBC buteyko documentary That's if the BBC is sufficiently robust source for you. It's about a series of breathing exercises - I learned about this, and after a lifetime on asthma medicines, I'm off all of them for the last year and a half. Has mainstream medicine accepted this? No. The stuff works - my wife's high blood pressure is down after doing these same exercises. Breathing exercises for blood pressure? The BBC documentary concludes that there are no 'mainstream' studies of this method because no one stands to make any money from it. I don't necessarily accept what's 'mainstream' without investigation, nor do I write off as "kooky" things that are billed as "alternative." I do my homework, and I make my own choices. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary, and thank you, I'll keep eating lots of fat and as much coconut oil as I can manage. -S- |
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On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 11:25:18 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-5, wrote: > > > For the last decade or so, we've bought exactly one oil to keep in our kitchen, a non-EV olive from Trader Joe's. We're now considering alternatives. I tried canola oil - seems fine. We mostly use it to sautée but also use it wherever and whenever we need, e.g., baking, on salads, frying. I'm considering keeping one oil for cooking and getting some EV olive oil for salads. > > > > Your thoughts appreciated, and thanks in advance. > > > > -S- > > > For the small amount of frying I do I keep safflower on hand. Conventional safflower is awful, but I think that they've bred high oleic safflower these days. High oleic sunflower is, I think, still the standard.. --Bryan |
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On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> graham wrote: >> >> >> Who says? > > Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? |
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On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote:
> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >> graham wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who says? >> >> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, > > Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make any difference? |
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On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>> graham wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Who says? >>> >>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >> >> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >> > > > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make > any difference? No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. |
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On 9/26/2016 10:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>> graham wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Who says? >>> >>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >> >> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >> > > > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make > any difference? Apparently so. I've seen doctors talking about this for some time, it's not a simple matter as it was once thought. Here's just one reference I found: http://time.com/2988142/you-asked-ar...created-equal/ nancy |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:03:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>> graham wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who says? >>>> >>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>> >>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >>> >> >> >> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make >> any difference? > >No! Yes. >My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. I dunno about 'doesn't'. but one is much worse than the other for weight gain. |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:26:56 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >> >> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >> >>> graham wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Who says? >> >>> >> >>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >> >> >> >> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >> >> >> > >> > >> > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make >> > any difference? >> >> No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. > >People want to stuff themselves. They eat lots of carbs. They get >overweight. They have to cut back on the carbs. They still want to stuff >themselves. They declare fat healthy. They stuff themselves on fat. >Problem solved, they think. Worked for me. Well, less carbs did. I don't know why one would need to stuff themselves with fat. |
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In article >, says...
> > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:26:56 +1000, Bruce > > wrote: > > >In article >, says... > >> > >> On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> > On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: > >> >> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: > >> >>> graham wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Who says? > >> >>> > >> >>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, > >> >> > >> >> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make > >> > any difference? > >> > >> No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. > > > >People want to stuff themselves. They eat lots of carbs. They get > >overweight. They have to cut back on the carbs. They still want to stuff > >themselves. They declare fat healthy. They stuff themselves on fat. > >Problem solved, they think. > > Worked for me. Well, less carbs did. > I don't know why one would need to stuff themselves with fat. Maybe you're not an overeater. |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:29:37 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:26:56 +1000, Bruce > >> wrote: >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> > On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >> >> >> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >> >> >>> graham wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Who says? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >> >> >> >> >> >> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make >> >> > any difference? >> >> >> >> No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. >> > >> >People want to stuff themselves. They eat lots of carbs. They get >> >overweight. They have to cut back on the carbs. They still want to stuff >> >themselves. They declare fat healthy. They stuff themselves on fat. >> >Problem solved, they think. >> >> Worked for me. Well, less carbs did. >> I don't know why one would need to stuff themselves with fat. > >Maybe you're not an overeater. I actually did eat more than normal and yet the weight fell off rapidly, and not just in the short term either. But I never felt the need to stuff myself with fat. Going low carb 16 years ago was also how I discovered I had a wheat intolerance. |
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"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
On 9/26/2016 10:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>> graham wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Who says? >>> >>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >> >> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >> > > > If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make > any difference? Apparently so. I've seen doctors talking about this for some time, it's not a simple matter as it was once thought. Here's just one reference I found: http://time.com/2988142/you-asked-ar...created-equal/ nancy ======== I have a wedding coming up and I wanted to lose some pounds to get into an outfit that had become tight (how on earth did it do that <g>) 1200 calories a day worked beautifully. I eat what I fancy and stop when I have reached my limit. I use this if anyone is interested: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ It keeps a good track and it finds most things you need to know the calories amount ... if you see what I mean )I don't this won't go down well with the low carbers/Paleo groups, but it works very well for me Oh btw it does track the carbs at the same time. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2016-09-26 11:03 PM, graham wrote:
> On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>> graham wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who says? >>>> >>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>> >>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >>> >> >> >> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make >> any difference? > > No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. Fat is an essential part of our diet, but you will get fat if you eat too much of it. |
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Steve Freides wrote:
> > Just my opinion, your mileage may vary, and thank you, I'll keep eating > lots of fat and as much coconut oil as I can manage. Bottom line is we're all going to die. Enjoy life as you choose to live it. If you die sooner rather than later, at least you enjoyed the trip. :-D |
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"Gary" wrote in message ...
Steve Freides wrote: > > Just my opinion, your mileage may vary, and thank you, I'll keep eating > lots of fat and as much coconut oil as I can manage. Bottom line is we're all going to die. Enjoy life as you choose to live it. If you die sooner rather than later, at least you enjoyed the trip. :-D ============= I totally agree )-- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2016-09-27, graham > wrote:
> No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. Tell it to that half gallon of Blue Bunny Pistachio Almond I have lurking in my freezer. That 5 lbs I lost? Gone! (....or back, depending on yer perspective).  nb |
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Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:29:37 +1000, Bruce > > wrote: > >> In article >, >> says... >>> >>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:26:56 +1000, Bruce > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In article >, says... >>>>> >>>>> On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>>> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>>>>>> graham wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Who says? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and >>>>>>> protein? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does >>>>>> it make any difference? >>>>> >>>>> No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. >>>> >>>> People want to stuff themselves. They eat lots of carbs. They get >>>> overweight. They have to cut back on the carbs. They still want to >>>> stuff themselves. They declare fat healthy. They stuff themselves >>>> on fat. Problem solved, they think. >>> >>> Worked for me. Well, less carbs did. >>> I don't know why one would need to stuff themselves with fat. >> >> Maybe you're not an overeater. > > I actually did eat more than normal and yet the weight fell off > rapidly, and not just in the short term either. But I never felt the > need to stuff myself with fat. Going low carb 16 years ago was also > how I discovered I had a wheat intolerance. Just for FWIW, I weigh 148 lbs. at 5' 7". I'm in my 60's and as a hobby, I'm a competitive weight lifter - I'm not an overeater and I'm not fat. But I do use heavy cream in my coffee and stay away from any food labelled "low fat." -S- -S- |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/26/2016 10:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>> graham wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who says? >>>> >>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>> >>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >>> >> >> >> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it >> make any difference? > > Apparently so. I've seen doctors talking about this for some time, > it's not a simple matter as it was once thought. Here's just one > reference I found: > > http://time.com/2988142/you-asked-ar...created-equal/ > > nancy Yup. -S- |
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Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... > > On 9/26/2016 10:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>> graham wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who says? >>>> >>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>> >>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >>> >> >> >> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it >> make any difference? > > Apparently so. I've seen doctors talking about this for some time, > it's not a simple matter as it was once thought. Here's just one > reference I found: > > http://time.com/2988142/you-asked-ar...created-equal/ > > nancy > ======== > > I have a wedding coming up and I wanted to lose some pounds to get > into an outfit that had become tight (how on earth did it do that <g>) > > 1200 calories a day worked beautifully. I eat what I fancy and stop > when I have reached my limit. > > I use this if anyone is interested: > > http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ > > It keeps a good track and it finds most things you need to know the > calories amount ... if you see what I mean )> > I don't this won't go down well with the low carbers/Paleo groups, > but it works very well for me > > Oh btw it does track the carbs at the same time. Keeping track of what you eat is a good thing for most people who are trying to lose weight. My weight has never been an issue enough to warrant that for me. I get on the scale - if I weigh too much, I start eating less, and I always try to eat the best I can. And I mentioned earlier, I compete in a weight class sport, so I have to make weight for every competition. -S- |
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"Steve Freides" wrote in message ...
Ophelia wrote: > "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... > > On 9/26/2016 10:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>> graham wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who says? >>>> >>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>> >>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >>> >> >> >> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it >> make any difference? > > Apparently so. I've seen doctors talking about this for some time, > it's not a simple matter as it was once thought. Here's just one > reference I found: > > http://time.com/2988142/you-asked-ar...created-equal/ > > nancy > ======== > > I have a wedding coming up and I wanted to lose some pounds to get > into an outfit that had become tight (how on earth did it do that <g>) > > 1200 calories a day worked beautifully. I eat what I fancy and stop > when I have reached my limit. > > I use this if anyone is interested: > > http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ > > It keeps a good track and it finds most things you need to know the > calories amount ... if you see what I mean )> > I don't this won't go down well with the low carbers/Paleo groups, > but it works very well for me > > Oh btw it does track the carbs at the same time. Keeping track of what you eat is a good thing for most people who are trying to lose weight. My weight has never been an issue enough to warrant that for me. I get on the scale - if I weigh too much, I start eating less, and I always try to eat the best I can. And I mentioned earlier, I compete in a weight class sport, so I have to make weight for every competition. =========== Yes I understand and in your case I would think you burn far more calories than I could manage without putting weight on. You are a weight lifter, yes? Muscle burns a lot of calories! My husband was in the military and is very muscley. He needs far more calories than I could get away with ) I am retired and the weight comes on too easily if I don't watch it )It seems to me you know very well what you are doing )-- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 9/27/2016 8:18 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-09-26 11:03 PM, graham wrote: >> On 9/26/2016 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 9/26/2016 10:28 PM, graham wrote: >>>> On 9/26/2016 12:10 PM, Steve Freides wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Many, many people. Fat doesn't make you fat, >>>> >>>> Hmmmmm! 80% more calories per gram than carbohydrates and protein? >>> >>> If you eat 100 calories from fat or 100 calories from carbs does it make >>> any difference? >> >> No! My point was his assertion that fat doesn't make one fat. > > Fat is an essential part of our diet, but you will get fat if you eat > too much of it. > Now that's (ironically and) hilariously funny - albeit so too true! Sky ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
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