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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:44:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 12:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > >> > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >> > > > >> > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote: > >> > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit > >> > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web. > >> > > > > >> > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin > >> > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on > >> > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to, > >> > > > then Pinterest isn't for you. > >> > > > >> > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature. > >> > > >> > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning. > >> > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and > >> > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing > >> > with saving pictures online. > >> > >> The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up. > > > >It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either. > > You want privacy and control? DS1 won't like that. > What is so hard for you old farts to understand that some of us like it? So you want your so called privacy. Go ahead and have it all you want. The rest of us will do it our way. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard >> drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or >> siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin. >> >I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. > >I recently bought an RJ-45 crimper kit to make ethernet cables. It came with the crimper, 100 RJ-45 connectors, and a couple of test boxes to check the cable. It was 12 bucks. What a steal - or was it? Anyway, what this means is that wired networks are going the way of the doodoo. Really? Tell that to the infrastructure of the vast majority of the Internet. Two different technologies, both have advantages and disadvantages. I wired every building on this property with CAT6, something like 900 metres of cable used. Beats the hell out of wifi in a number of ways for my application. |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:58:35 -0700, sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:44:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 12:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> >> > Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote: >> >> > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz > >> >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit >> >> > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin >> >> > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on >> >> > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to, >> >> > > > then Pinterest isn't for you. >> >> > > >> >> > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature. >> >> > >> >> > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning. >> >> > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and >> >> > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing >> >> > with saving pictures online. >> >> >> >> The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up. >> > >> >It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either. >> >> You want privacy and control? DS1 won't like that. >> >What is so hard for you old farts Explain the relationship between 'old farts' and differing preferences when it comes to technology, would you, deary? Ohhh.... the cloud is 'new'. So therefore, anyone who doesn't like or wish to use it is an 'old fart'. I get it now. >to understand that some of us like >it? So you want your so called privacy. Go ahead and have it all you >want. The rest of us will do it our way. Did I at any point suggest anyone else NOT use it? |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:52:18 -0700, sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:44:37 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:38:57 -0700, sf > wrote: >> >> >On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:28:37 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 20:10:45 -0700, sf > wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 16:50:26 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 09:47:33 +1000, Bruce > >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> T... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You're a breakfast Rambo! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/330944272589949654/  >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Which one? All of them? >> >> >> >> >> >> I guess you need a Pinterest account to see the actual pic. >> >> > >> >> >He should have given you the actual link instead of directing you to >> >> >Pinterest. >> >> >> >> Thanks for that. >> >> >> >> > Here it is >> >> >http://twentytwowords.com/we-all-wan...me-odd-reason/ >> >> >> >> Heh >> >> >> >> Myself, I'm more interested in quality of life rather than quantity of >> >> life. >> > >> >Me too, and I have an exit plan. >> >> Dare I ask what that is? > >Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead. Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to die. A drug overdose sounds better to me. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead. I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water. Cheri |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 02:00:16 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >> wrote: >> >>> I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the >>> modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing >>> differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of >>> computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks >>> will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. >>> Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one >>> that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. >>> >>> I recently bought an RJ-45 crimper kit to make ethernet cables. It >>> came with the crimper, 100 RJ-45 connectors, and a couple of test >>> boxes to check the cable. It was 12 bucks. What a steal - or was >>> it? Anyway, what this means is that wired networks are going the >>> way of the doodoo. > >Nothing this guy says makes any sense. The guy has the technical >cognition of a rooster. He's the biggest bullshit artist I've ever >heard (outside of politicians). It's like he drank every last drop of the complimentary kool-aid in the waiting room while waiting for his lobotomy. |
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"Cheri" wrote in message ...
"sf" > wrote in message ... > Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead. I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water. Cheri ========= What is a 357 plan? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 1:36:38 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due to a > > > > > > > data > > > > > > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop online. > > > > > > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in a vehicle, and driven away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles backups. Ok, not > > > > > > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved offsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try to read the data and business of people long dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard > > > > > > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or > > > > > > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin. |
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:12:13 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >> Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard > >> drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or > >> siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin. > >> > >I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. > > > >I recently bought an RJ-45 crimper kit to make ethernet cables. It came with the crimper, 100 RJ-45 connectors, and a couple of test boxes to check the cable. It was 12 bucks. What a steal - or was it? Anyway, what this means is that wired networks are going the way of the doodoo. > > Really? Tell that to the infrastructure of the vast majority of the > Internet. Two different technologies, both have advantages and > disadvantages. I wired every building on this property with CAT6, > something like 900 metres of cable used. Beats the hell out of wifi in > a number of ways for my application. I already know that wired networks are going to be used to connect the servers that service the internet. It's faster and more secure. The rest of the world is going wireless. I'm not impressed Mr Tech-guru. Quit wasting my time. |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 1:36:38 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article > > > > > >, > > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy > > > > > > Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > data > > > > > > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop > > > > > > > online. > > > > > > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on > > > > > > > > tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true > > > > > > > > today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in > > > > > > > > a vehicle, and driven away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles > > > > > > > backups. Ok, not > > > > > > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved > > > > > > > offsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to > > > > > > > > end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes > > > > > > > > are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, > > > > > > > > place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be > > > > > > > > dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try > > > > > > > > to read the data and business of people long dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred > > > > > > > my hard > > > > > > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no > > > > > > > children or > > > > > > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first > > > > > > > cousin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in > > > > > > the > > > > > > modern world. > > > > > > > > > > But you will anyway. It's stronger than you. > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age > > > > > > of > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks > > > > > > will > > > > > > see > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word > > > > > processing? > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a > > > > > spreadsheet? > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're 15 > > > > > years > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old > > > > post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured > > > > that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and > > > > desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and > > > > programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that > > > > things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you > > > > finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to > > download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son > > writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX > > whatever desktop client program. > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. ------------------- Oi!!!! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:57:06 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: > >"sf" > wrote in message .. . > >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead. > >I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water. The good old lead aspirin, always an option. |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 02:12:46 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:12:13 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >> Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard >> >> drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or >> >> siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin. >> >> >> >I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. >> > >> >I recently bought an RJ-45 crimper kit to make ethernet cables. It came with the crimper, 100 RJ-45 connectors, and a couple of test boxes to check the cable. It was 12 bucks. What a steal - or was it? Anyway, what this means is that wired networks are going the way of the doodoo. >> >> Really? Tell that to the infrastructure of the vast majority of the >> Internet. Two different technologies, both have advantages and >> disadvantages. I wired every building on this property with CAT6, >> something like 900 metres of cable used. Beats the hell out of wifi in >> a number of ways for my application. > >I already know that wired networks are going to be used to connect the servers that service the internet. It's faster and more secure. The rest of the world is going wireless. I'm not impressed Mr Tech-guru. Quit wasting my time. "what this means is that wired networks are going the way of the doodoo" LOL, you're a joke. |
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > In article >, > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > In article >, > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 1:36:38 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > >, > > > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy > > > > > > > Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > data > > > > > > > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop > > > > > > > > online. > > > > > > > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on > > > > > > > > > tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true > > > > > > > > > today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in > > > > > > > > > a vehicle, and driven away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles > > > > > > > > backups. Ok, not > > > > > > > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved > > > > > > > > offsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to > > > > > > > > > end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes > > > > > > > > > are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, > > > > > > > > > place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be > > > > > > > > > dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try > > > > > > > > > to read the data and business of people long dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred > > > > > > > > my hard > > > > > > > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no > > > > > > > > children or > > > > > > > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first > > > > > > > > cousin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > modern world. > > > > > > > > > > > > But you will anyway. It's stronger than you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word > > > > > > processing? > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a > > > > > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're 15 > > > > > > years > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old > > > > > post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured > > > > > that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and > > > > > desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and > > > > > programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that > > > > > things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you > > > > > finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to > > > download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son > > > writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX > > > whatever desktop client program. > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, > it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not > blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, > bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and > forgotten - just like it's users. > > ------------------- > > Oi!!!! > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Of course I mean that in the nicest way possible. |
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:54:50 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:12:13 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > >> Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard > > > >> drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or > > > >> siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin. > > > >> > > > >I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines.. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. > > > > > > > >I recently bought an RJ-45 crimper kit to make ethernet cables. It came with the crimper, 100 RJ-45 connectors, and a couple of test boxes to check the cable. It was 12 bucks. What a steal - or was it? Anyway, what this means is that wired networks are going the way of the doodoo. > > > > > > Really? Tell that to the infrastructure of the vast majority of the > > > Internet. Two different technologies, both have advantages and > > > disadvantages. I wired every building on this property with CAT6, > > > something like 900 metres of cable used. Beats the hell out of wifi in > > > a number of ways for my application. > > > > I already know that wired networks are going to be used to connect the > > servers that service the internet. It's faster and more secure. > > Wrong. If you're already wrong at such a basic level, what does that say > about the rest of your theories? Please point out the part that's wrong or are you unable to articulate this? I'd sure like to know what you're trying to say and I'm always open to the facts. I want to be corrected when I'm wrong but you got to give me more than "Wrong." |
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we wouldn't > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word processing? > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a spreadsheet? > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're 15 years > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have a > problem. That might be the bottleneck I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. For the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived with Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're resistant to change. I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. |
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:20:32 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:20:13 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 9:31:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit > > > > > > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin > > > > > > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on > > > > > > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to, > > > > > > > > then Pinterest isn't for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning. > > > > > > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and > > > > > > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing > > > > > > with saving pictures online. > > > > > > > > > > The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up. > > > > > > > > It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either. > > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > > > That's an attitude born of the technical limitations of an era. > > > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due to a data > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop online. > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is. > > > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in a vehicle, and driven away. > > > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles backups. Ok, not > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved offsite. > > > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try to read the data and business of people long dead. > > > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. I'm a software engineer. I doubt there's anything of substance that you could teach me about computing. Data security will have to become a hell of a lot better before I trust the cloud. I use the Internet for shopping because of its great convenience, but I'm under no illusion that my information is safe out there. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 5:08:51 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. Aw, hell, I hate Windows with a passion. That's why I use Unix at every possible opportunity. Sure, I've got a PC at home and at work. The former is because my husband wants it, the latter is because my boss wants it. My work PC spends 90% of its time showing me a Solaris desktop via xterm. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:33:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:20:32 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:20:13 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 9:31:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit > > > > > > > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin > > > > > > > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on > > > > > > > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to, > > > > > > > > > then Pinterest isn't for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning. > > > > > > > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and > > > > > > > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing > > > > > > > with saving pictures online. > > > > > > > > > > > > The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up. > > > > > > > > > > It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either. |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:40:35 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:54:50 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:12:13 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:20:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > >> Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard > > > > > >> drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or > > > > > >> siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin.. > > > > > >> > > > > > >I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No. > > > > > > > > > > > >I recently bought an RJ-45 crimper kit to make ethernet cables. It came with the crimper, 100 RJ-45 connectors, and a couple of test boxes to check the cable. It was 12 bucks. What a steal - or was it? Anyway, what this means is that wired networks are going the way of the doodoo. > > > > > > > > > > Really? Tell that to the infrastructure of the vast majority of the > > > > > Internet. Two different technologies, both have advantages and > > > > > disadvantages. I wired every building on this property with CAT6, > > > > > something like 900 metres of cable used. Beats the hell out of wifi in > > > > > a number of ways for my application. > > > > > > > > I already know that wired networks are going to be used to connect the > > > > servers that service the internet. It's faster and more secure. > > > > > > Wrong. If you're already wrong at such a basic level, what does that say > > > about the rest of your theories? > > > > Please point out the part that's wrong or are you unable to articulate this? I'd sure like to know what you're trying to say and I'm always open to the facts. I want to be corrected when I'm wrong but you got to give me more than "Wrong." > > Wireless isn't faster and it's not more secure either. But there's > nothing I can say to convince you. Or vice versa. Let's agree to > disagree. Try reading more carefully, I did say that wired networks are faster and more secure. PS: Thanks for wasting my time. |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:44:15 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > In article >, > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of > > > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we wouldn't > > > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word processing? > > > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're 15 years > > > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have a > > > problem. That might be the bottleneck > > > > I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. For the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived with Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're resistant to change. > > > > I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. > > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > the saying correctly. My point was not that you should change horses or courses. What I said was the younger generation does not see computers the same way the oldsters do. It is the younger generation that's driving technological change. If you can't understand that, the current trends won't make any sense to you. My guess is that you're going to hold on to that old nag until one of you drops dead. That's fine with me although it does make me feel a little sad. |
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... On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > In article >, > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > In article >, > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 1:36:38 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > >, > > > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy > > > > > > > Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > data > > > > > > > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop > > > > > > > > online. > > > > > > > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on > > > > > > > > > tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds > > > > > > > > > true > > > > > > > > > today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > a vehicle, and driven away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles > > > > > > > > backups. Ok, not > > > > > > > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved > > > > > > > > offsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup > > > > > > > > > tapes > > > > > > > > > are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, > > > > > > > > > forgotten, > > > > > > > > > place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try > > > > > > > > > to read the data and business of people long dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to > > > > > > > > shred > > > > > > > > my hard > > > > > > > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no > > > > > > > > children or > > > > > > > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first > > > > > > > > cousin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > modern world. > > > > > > > > > > > > But you will anyway. It's stronger than you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the > > > > > > > age > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word > > > > > > processing? > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a > > > > > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're > > > > > > 15 > > > > > > years > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year > > > > > old > > > > > post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured > > > > > that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and > > > > > desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and > > > > > programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that > > > > > things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you > > > > > finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to > > > download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My > > > son > > > writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word > > > 20XX > > > whatever desktop client program. > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, > it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not > blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, > bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and > forgotten - just like it's users. > > ------------------- > > Oi!!!! > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Of course I mean that in the nicest way possible. ============== THWAP! but I did mean that thwap in the nicest way possible you understand ... ;-) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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says... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > T... > > In article >, > says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of > > > > > > > > > > the age of > > > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young > > > > > > > > > > folks will > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we > > > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word > > > > > > > > > processing? > > > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a > > > > > > > > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. > > > > > > > > > We're 15 years > > > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 > > > > > > > > year old post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. > > > > > > > > Rest assured that in 2016 most people will not use desktop > > > > > > > > client programs and desktop computers. They will use small > > > > > > > > hand-held devices and programs called "apps" which connects to > > > > > > > > the internet to do that things that they need to do. I think > > > > > > > > you will like it when you finally catch up. The future - it's > > > > > > > > gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need > > > > > > to download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I > > > > > > use. My son writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no > > > > > > stinkin' Word 20XX whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows > > > > shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of > > > > course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from > > > > disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that > > > > Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have a > > > problem. That might be the bottleneck > > > > I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. For > > the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, > > bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived with > > Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're > > resistant to change. > > > > I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my > > problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution to > > a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. > > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > the saying correctly. > > =============== > > Horses for courses! But yes, that is what it means > > "different people are suited to different things." Ok, I knew it was something like that |
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T... In article >, says... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > T... > > In article >, > says... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article > > > > > >, > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of > > > > > > > > > > the age of > > > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young > > > > > > > > > > folks will > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need > > > > > > > > > word > > > > > > > > > processing? > > > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a > > > > > > > > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. > > > > > > > > > We're 15 years > > > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the > > > > > > > > > cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 > > > > > > > > year old post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. > > > > > > > > Rest assured that in 2016 most people will not use desktop > > > > > > > > client programs and desktop computers. They will use small > > > > > > > > hand-held devices and programs called "apps" which connects > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the internet to do that things that they need to do. I think > > > > > > > > you will like it when you finally catch up. The future - > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't > > > > > > need > > > > > > to download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I > > > > > > use. My son writes his school papers on the web. He don't need > > > > > > no > > > > > > stinkin' Word 20XX whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows > > > > shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. > > > > Of > > > > course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover > > > > from > > > > disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that > > > > Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have > > > a > > > problem. That might be the bottleneck > > > > I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. > > For > > the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, > > bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived > > with > > Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're > > resistant to change. > > > > I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my > > problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution > > to > > a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. > > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > the saying correctly. > > =============== > > Horses for courses! But yes, that is what it means > > "different people are suited to different things." Ok, I knew it was something like that === You were not wrong <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:44:15 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > In article >, > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > In article >, > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > In article >, > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > > In article >, > > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of > > > > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we wouldn't > > > > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word processing? > > > > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc.. We're 15 years > > > > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > > > > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > > > > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have a > > > > problem. That might be the bottleneck > > > > > > I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. For the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived with Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're resistant to change. > > > > > > I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. > > > > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > > the saying correctly. > > My point was not that you should change horses or courses. What I said was the younger generation does not see computers the same way the oldsters do. It is the younger generation that's driving technological change. If you can't understand that, the current trends won't make any sense to you. My guess is that you're going to hold on to that old nag until one of you drops dead. That's fine with me although it does make me feel a little sad. You seem to think that computing is one monolithic entity. It isn't. There are all sorts of requirements. Here's one: quite a few of my employer's customers do their computing in a closed environment. No Internet connection at all. No writable media. If a hard drive comes into the black area, the only way it leaves is shredded. No cell phones or tablets allowed in. I just don't see that kind of requirement bending to tattooed youngsters who want to see who's following them on Twitter. Cindy Hamilton |
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dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 1:36:38 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy > > > > > > > > Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due > > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > > data > > > > > > > > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop > > > > > > > > > online. > > > > > > > > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on > > > > > > > > > > tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true > > > > > > > > > > today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in > > > > > > > > > > a vehicle, and driven away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles > > > > > > > > > backups. Ok, not > > > > > > > > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved > > > > > > > > > offsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to > > > > > > > > > > end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes > > > > > > > > > > are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, > > > > > > > > > > place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be > > > > > > > > > > dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try > > > > > > > > > > to read the data and business of people long dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred > > > > > > > > > my hard > > > > > > > > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no > > > > > > > > > children or > > > > > > > > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first > > > > > > > > > cousin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > modern world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But you will anyway. It's stronger than you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word > > > > > > > processing? > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a > > > > > > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're 15 > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old > > > > > > post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured > > > > > > that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and > > > > > > desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and > > > > > > programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that > > > > > > things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you > > > > > > finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to > > > > download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son > > > > writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX > > > > whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, > > it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not > > blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, > > bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and > > forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > ------------------- > > > > Oi!!!! > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > Of course I mean that in the nicest way possible. Horse ant buggies went south when cars were invented 100 years ago but we still have the Amish. As long as old ppl and/or old ways exist, old things will continue. I still pay for a printed newspaper delivered everyday. They will stop someday but not until me and people like me still subscribe. I really hate to imagine the future when traditional libraries with printed books go away. Luckily, that will be long after I'm dead. |
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Bruce wrote:
> > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > the saying correctly. "A horse is a horse of course, of course but whoever heard of a talking horse, that is unless the horse of course is the talking Mr.ED" LOL :-D |
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dsi1 wrote:
> > My point was not that you should change horses or courses. What I said was the younger generation does not see computers the same way the oldsters do. It is the younger generation that's driving technological change. If you can't understand that, the current trends won't make any sense to you. My guess is that you're going to hold on to that old nag until one of you drops dead. That's fine with me although it does make me feel a little sad. I agree with you. Someday, it will be star trek and no keyboards, etc. "Computer: tell about this planet." Kind of sad to me as I like typing on a keyboard and physically interacting with Mr.Computer. But I'm old-school. Current things will die off with our generation. I just wonder why you are constantly living in the future and not the present. Are you not happy with what we have now? Here's ant-other thing. I won't ever ride in or trust a "self-driving" car. These cars will need many years of proofing before they become trustworthy. What scares me is that they are out on my roads now. I don't want to drive in traffic with experimental cars. |
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> > Actually, I misstated the number of Pins that I have - it's almost at > 30,000. 30,000 pins. You have no life other than internet life. "Not that there's anything wrong with it" ;-D |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:55:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>sf wrote: >> >> Actually, I misstated the number of Pins that I have - it's almost at >> 30,000. > >30,000 pins. You have no life other than internet life. > >"Not that there's anything wrong with it" ;-D I would imagine that the opposite is true. She sees something she likes and clicks on it as opposed to copying and pasting, or printing or typing. If she is a fast reader and able to scan quickly I can see it being more efficient all round. Janet US |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:10:51 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 8:21:25 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 1:31:41 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:44:15 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > In article >, > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have a > > > > > > > > > problem. That might be the bottleneck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. For the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived with Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're resistant to change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > > > > > > > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > > > > > > > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > > > > > > > the saying correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was not that you should change horses or courses. What I said was the younger generation does not see computers the same way the oldsters do. It is the younger generation that's driving technological change. If you can't understand that, the current trends won't make any sense to you. My guess is that you're going to hold on to that old nag until one of you drops dead. That's fine with me although it does make me feel a little sad. > > > > > > > > > > Didn't you have a problem with Cindy being "patronizing" earlier? > > > > > > > > My rule against talking about specific posters here in the third person does not allow me to answer that. OTOH, rules were meant to be broken. > > > > > > > > That's just the way software engineers have learned to talk and it's condescendingly annoying. OTOH, she can hold her own in a discussion, is articulate, and makes good points. You guys don't. Mostly, you guys like to be negative and just say "no" without explanation. That's the tactics of a toddler and it stems a mind that has some difficulty in focusing. > > > > > > The more you're proven wrong, the more offensive you're trying to get.. > > > Talk about toddler tactics > > > > I'll give you one more chance to clarify which part of my post was wrong or misleading. Try to be specific please. > > You see a little bird sitting on the back of a cow and you say that all > animals are tiny and have wings. Irony at it's finest! Your problem is that you see neither bird nor cow. You believe yourself to be mainstream. If you're still using a Windows desktop computer and desktop client programs, and have a big grin on your face, you need a serious upgrade. |
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 3:20:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:44:15 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > In article >, > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 11:45:58 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > In article >, > > > > > dsi10yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:46:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > In article >, > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article >, > > > > > > > > > dsi1yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that young people see cloud computing > > > > > > > > > > > > differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of > > > > > > > > > > > > computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago, people predicted that in a couple of years we wouldn't > > > > > > > > > > > have software installed on our computers anymore. Need word processing? > > > > > > > > > > > Grab a word processing application from the cloud. Need a spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > > > Grab a spreadsheet application from the cloud. Etc, etc. We're 15 years > > > > > > > > > > > later and look at us. Not even Notepad comes from the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you say is most curious. I must be responding to a 16 year old post. Yeah, that's the only reasonable explanation. Rest assured that in 2016 most people will not use desktop client programs and desktop computers. They will use small hand-held devices and programs called "apps" which connects to the internet to do that things that they need to do. I think you will like it when you finally catch up. The future - it's gonna blow your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still download the app before you use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm responding to you using a Chrome browser window. I don't need to download no stinkin' app. It doesn't matter what computer I use. My son writes his school papers on the web. He don't need no stinkin' Word 20XX whatever desktop client program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're blinded by Windows hatred. I wish you a speedy recovery > > > > > > > > > > > > When I think of 20 years or so of having to deal with Windows shenanigans, it ****es me off. No sir, I don't care for it at all. Of course, I'm not blinded by anything nor do I ever wish to recover from disliking the fat, bloated, unreliable, OS. The reality is that Windows will soon be dead and forgotten - just like it's users. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing a good shrink can't fix. But first you have to admit you have a > > > > > problem. That might be the bottleneck > > > > > > > > I'm quite happy with my Chromebooks. People have such short memories. For the last 20 years people have been complaining about this unreliable, bloated, insecure, OS. It's been a real bitch-fest. People have lived with Windows for so long that it's all they know and can do and they're resistant to change. > > > > > > > > I don't really have to learn to like Windows in order to solve my problems - all I have to do is not use it. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is moving on and adapting to the times. > > > > > > I believe that Chromebooks and wireless and mobile and all that works > > > for you. But the programs I use or have to use don't come out of a cloud > > > or in app form. Different horses for different courses, if I remember > > > the saying correctly. > > > > My point was not that you should change horses or courses. What I said was the younger generation does not see computers the same way the oldsters do. It is the younger generation that's driving technological change. If you can't understand that, the current trends won't make any sense to you. My guess is that you're going to hold on to that old nag until one of you drops dead. That's fine with me although it does make me feel a little sad. > > You seem to think that computing is one monolithic entity. It isn't. > There are all sorts of requirements. Here's one: quite a few of > my employer's customers do their computing in a closed environment. > No Internet connection at all. No writable media. If a hard drive > comes into the black area, the only way it leaves is shredded. > No cell phones or tablets allowed in. > > I just don't see that kind of requirement bending to tattooed > youngsters who want to see who's following them on Twitter. > > Cindy Hamilton Tattoos - they're not just for youngsters anymore. https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/artic...d-chin-tattoos |
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T... In article >, says... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > T... > > In article >, says... > > > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > > ... > > > "Cheri" wrote in message ... > > > > > > "sf" > wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead. > > > > > > I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water. > > > > > > > > > Cheri > > > ========= > > > > > > What is a 357 plan? > > > > It ain't a health plan, think magnum. > > I think Ophelia's more into Higgins. > > ======== > > OK explain that one? Magnum was an American whereas Higgins, from the same TV series, was very English. ============== In my case it would be more like Webley ... ;-) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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