On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 1:10:07 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 16:08:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:37:40 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiyahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiyahoo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:33:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:20:32 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 4:20:13 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 9:31:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:26:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:14:12 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Pinterest is Evil and very unfriendly It's best just not to visit
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > thew site at all. It's mostly stuff lifted from elsewhere on the Web.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > That's exactly what it is intended to be. It's an online bulletin
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > board. See a link you want to remember, save it to a focused board on
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Pinterest. If you have no interests that you want to save links to,
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > then Pinterest isn't for you.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Um, that's why my browser has a "bookmark" feature.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > heh That's exactly what I thought when I read her post this morning.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > People need to focus on saving valuable info on their OWN COMPUTERS and
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > backups, not on internet places that eventually disappear. Same thing
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > with saving pictures online.
> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > > The need to store files on a local computer is certainly a quaint, old-fashioned notion. I suppose that it might make some sense in this modern world - but only if you have dial-up.
> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > It's about privacy and control. I don't want to relinquish either.
> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > That's an attitude born of the technical limitations of an era.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > I've at least twice had to have my credit card re-issued due to a data
> >> >> >> >> > > breach somewhere. These weren't even places that I shop online.
> >> >> >> >> > > The cloud is insecure. Really, it is.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > Back in the old days, important files were backed up on tapes and stored in a remote location. This still holds true today except that the files are not put on tapes, placed in a vehicle, and driven away.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Yes, they are. That's exactly how my employer handles backups. Ok, not
> >> >> >> >> > > on tape, but to removable hard drives. Then they've moved offsite.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > As far as your files that you want to control, it's going to end up in the same place as my father-in-law's backup tapes are - stored in our bedroom or some other dusty, forgotten, place. Eventually, it's going to the dump. Perhaps it'll be dug up a hundred years or more and archaeologists will try to read the data and business of people long dead.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Oh, I think I'll write a will instructing my executor to shred my hard
> >> >> >> >> > > drive (and my backups) once he's done with it. I have no children or
> >> >> >> >> > > siblings, and I've never even met my one and only first cousin.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I don't want to get into a discussion about security issues in the modern world. My point was that young people see cloud computing differently than people that grew up with the advent of the age of computers. Old folks see computers as a big boxes, young folks will see it as virtual machines. The cloud is the computer. Obviously a wired network is likely to be more secure than one that broadcasts data through the air. Does that matter a whit? No.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm a software engineer. I doubt there's anything of substance that
> >> >> >> >> you could teach me about computing. Data security will have to become
> >> >> >> >> a hell of a lot better before I trust the cloud. I use the Internet
> >> >> >> >> for shopping because of its great convenience, but I'm under no illusion
> >> >> >> >> that my information is safe out there.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You seem transfixed on the idea that cloud computing will never happen unless you personally can trust the cloud. Cloud computing is a reality and the world does not revolve around software engineers. I am fully aware that there are security problems - cut the patronizing crap.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to chitchat.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are so utterly predicable when forced to confront your own stupid
> >> >> comments
> >> >
> >> >Obviously, you're bluffing - otherwise, you'd say what comments you're referring to. I call your bluff pal!
> >>
> >> Didn't you just finish telling me "don't ****ing waste my time"? When
> >> you have not even a remotely sensible response, you get angry.
> >>
> >> Anyway... I was referring to just about all your comments in this and
> >> other threads where you talk about tech issues.
> >
> >Once again, you bluff i.e., you have nothing. I should have gone all in.
>
> Well, go on then.
> BTW, your smileys fool nobody.

OK pal, the truth is that you win. You've frittered away my precious time. I will be gracious and accept defeat this time. OTOH, I won't allow you to play me ever again.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:13:26 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > dsiyahoo.com says...
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> > > > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to chitchat.
> >
> > Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time with
> > your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
>
> So you don't believe that the younger generation sees computers differently than old folks? It none of my business what you believe in. What's it got to do with me? You old guys crack me up!

Good, at least you're not fuming anymore.

In article >, says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:20 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> >> > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> >>
> >> It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to chitchat.
> >
> >Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time with
> >your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
>
> That would be pretty much every post of his on tech matters, in all
> seriousness.

True, I'd have my hands full.

In article >,
says...

> You're clueless - as usual. You don't know what my attitudes about
technology or security issues are because I don't give that out here. I
don't give that out because my personal views are my own and I value my
privacy.

lol - if you work on this a bit more, you could try stand-up comedy.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:18:06 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:22:14 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a
>> week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to
>> die. A drug overdose sounds better to me.
>
>What if you had no drugs to overdose on?

You just need a diabetic friend who will give you a vial of insulin
(given you are not diabetic) and for good measure after you inject the
insulin, take a handful of Aleve, or Naprozen and voila, you're gone.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:21:44 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:55:01 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>> Barbie's scenario didn't specify that she was terminally ill. Just
>> that she just woke up one day and decided her life should.
>
>If life was so bad for me that I woke up one day and decided to off
>myself, stepping in front of an oncoming train would do it. Idiot.

Very unkind thing to do to the engineer.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:14:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-09-21 5:51 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:20:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:22:14 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a
>>>>> week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to
>>>>> die. A drug overdose sounds better to me.
>>>>
>>>> What if you had no drugs to overdose on?
>>>
>>> In this day and age, who could afford them or have access to them?
>>
>> Die in another country would solve that problem. You could get a jar
>> of oxycodone here for about $20 or $6 if you're on benefits.
>
>There is a big difference in the street prices vs. pharmacy prices.
>When I was prescribed oxy almost 15 years ago it was IIRC about $18 for
>60 pills. Thanks to my drug plan it was less than $5. At the time, the
>street price was about $20 per pill.
>
>I'll be damned if I can understand what it is about that stuff that
>someone would pay $20 for a pill that I found to be very effective at
>taking the edge off serious pain, but which left me feeling groggy and
>stupid. I enjoyed the absence of pain, but I did not enjoy the other
>things it did to me. I also had a lot of pain medication prescribed
>after heart surgery, but I stopped taking it long before the
>prescription ran out.
>
>
>>
I had it after my knee replacement and it made me really ill, my files
are all marked 'no opiates' now.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:29:03 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
ET...
>
>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > "sf" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead.
>> >
>> > I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>> > =========
>> >
>> > What is a 357 plan?
>>
>> It ain't a health plan, think magnum.
>
>I think Ophelia's more into Higgins.
>
>========
>
>OK explain that one?


this is the way some folks check out Ophelia:


http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server51...0.1280.JPG?c=2


it's very messy


William

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:23:09 -0700, sf wrote:

> Sometimes your idiocy astounds me, but only momentarily.

I think your mind is shutting down. I suspect we won't be seeing you
in for more than another year.

-sw [marking calendar]

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:06:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >You seem transfixed on the idea that cloud computing will never
> > >> >happen unless you personally can trust the cloud. Cloud > > >> >
> > >> >computing is a
> > >> >reality and the world does not revolve around software
> > >> >engineers. I am
> > >> >fully aware that there are security problems - cut the
> > >> >patronizing crap.

> > >>
> > >> So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> > >
> > >It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to chitchat.
> >
> > You are so utterly predicable when forced to confront your own stupid
> > comments
>
> Nobody here appears to have a dog in the fight because they are either
> home users and don't care or use another platform, like Linsux. I
> fully agree with dsi1 that cloud computing is the wave of the future,
> as are self-driving cars.

The problem is that you and dsi1 don't know what the "cloud" is. You're
two blindfolded people trying to show others the way. It can be
entertaining though. So please don't stop on my account.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:52:03 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:06:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> > > >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You seem transfixed on the idea that cloud computing will never
> > > >> >happen unless you personally can trust the cloud. Cloud > > >> >
> > > >> >computing is a
> > > >> >reality and the world does not revolve around software
> > > >> >engineers. I am
> > > >> >fully aware that there are security problems - cut the
> > > >> >patronizing crap.
>
> > > >>
> > > >> So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> > > >
> > > >It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to chitchat.
> > >
> > > You are so utterly predicable when forced to confront your own stupid
> > > comments
> >
> > Nobody here appears to have a dog in the fight because they are either
> > home users and don't care or use another platform, like Linsux. I
> > fully agree with dsi1 that cloud computing is the wave of the future,
> > as are self-driving cars.
>
> The problem is that you and dsi1 don't know what the "cloud" is. You're
> two blindfolded people trying to show others the way. It can be
> entertaining though. So please don't stop on my account.

I won't. Of course you do realize I scoff at you as much as you scoff
at me. Steve can blow it out his ass the way he usually does.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:48:35 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:21:44 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:55:01 -0500, Sqwertz >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Barbie's scenario didn't specify that she was terminally ill. Just
> >> that she just woke up one day and decided her life should.
> >
> > If life was so bad for me that I woke up one day and decided to off
> > myself, stepping in front of an oncoming train would do it. Idiot.
>
> So then why are you choosing to try and go out via dehydration/kidney
> failure? As usual, you're not making any sense.
>
> The original point you responded to was living quality, not quantity.
> Which implies that at the slightest bit of degradation you would kill
> yourself. not that you were terminally ill.
>

Bend it anyway you want. You always do. I am not the head case you
obviously are and the only way I'd off myself is to hurry up an
already impending death... to make it clear enough even for you to
understand: late stage terminal illness.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:50:31 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:23:09 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > Sometimes your idiocy astounds me, but only momentarily.
>
> I think your mind is shutting down. I suspect we won't be seeing you
> in for more than another year.
>
> -sw [marking calendar]

Are you slated for prison? No one will miss you while you're gone.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/21/2016 6:26 PM, sf wrote:
>
>>
>> Nobody here appears to have a dog in the fight because they are either
>> home users and don't care or use another platform, like Linsux. I
>> fully agree with dsi1 that cloud computing is the wave of the future,
>> as are self-driving cars.
>>
>
> I can see some advantages to cloud computing, but for most of us, there is
> no good reason. One disadvantage is that you have to have "cloud" access
> or you are holding a box and keyboard.
>
> Self driving cars? Yes, just a matter of time and it is progressing.

For those that care to use them great, but in my lifetime...not for me.

Cheri

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...

> And as for Windows... Windows XP and even Win 7 are excellent
> operating systems, all things considered. I should have added the
> excellent Windows 2000, which at the time was extremely stable and
> reliable, so much so I resisted XP for a couple of years.
>
> MS certainly have released some awful versions along the way - Win ME,
> Vista and Win10 in particular.

Vista has been fine for my needs. Win7 is good too as far as I can tell, but
as I said, I don't do a lot with my computers, burn a few CD's things like
that, spreadsheets for the business, accounting, emails, simple things.

Cheri

"dsi1" > wrote in message news:f7f5a1be-8898-4295-bd3e-

So you don't believe that the younger generation sees computers differently
than old folks? It none of my business what you believe in. What's it got to
do with me? You old guys crack me up!

========

Yes, I believe the younger generation sees computers differently, they are
being raised with them, never knew anything different, second nature to
them, for that matter they see most things differently, as does just about
every generation that follows the previous generation.

Cheri

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:18:05 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1c6dcc7f-8efd-43de-ba6a-
>>
>> I never cared for Apple and have been trying to warn people about Google
>> for
>> almost a decade. However, I would like to work for Google - please.
>>
>> If you ask me, anybody that thinks Windows is not a fat, bloated,
>> unreliable, OS has never spent any time with Windows. These days, when
>> there's a chance to ditch Windows, everyone seems to think it's the
>> greatest
>> thing since sliced wafers. I think all y'alls are insane!
>>
>> ============
>>
>> Personally, I love Windows98 the best of any of the Win OS's, I would not
>> want to ditch Windows but then I am not reliant on a computer to do a
>> wide
>> range of things as many people are. I'm one of those "simple users." LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Well God bless ya. I use Windows 10 and 7 at work. I have a Windows 10
> tablet at home but there's not much reason to use it there. Mostly I
> wanted to see how Windows 10 in tablet mode works. I cannot say it works
> swell.

=========

I know Vista has been a pain for many people who are computer savvy, but it
has been fine for me. There are no updates for it anymore, but I don't need
updates. Win7 seems fine, but I've been nervous about switching to Win10.
I use Win98 for most of the old games I play, and also because it has a huge
library of Napster on it. Yes, I know...but I'm not deleting them and it's
not connected to the internet anymore at any rate.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:18:06 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:22:14 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a
>>> week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to
>>> die. A drug overdose sounds better to me.
>>
>>What if you had no drugs to overdose on?
>
> You just need a diabetic friend who will give you a vial of insulin
> (given you are not diabetic) and for good measure after you inject the
> insulin, take a handful of Aleve, or Naprozen and voila, you're gone.

Not a particularly good choice, since people that try usually end up in a
vegetative state instead of dead.

Cheri

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 7:41:09 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f7f5a1be-8898-4295-bd3e-
>
> So you don't believe that the younger generation sees computers differently
> than old folks? It none of my business what you believe in. What's it got to
> do with me? You old guys crack me up!
>
> ========
>
> Yes, I believe the younger generation sees computers differently, they are
> being raised with them, never knew anything different, second nature to
> them, for that matter they see most things differently, as does just about
> every generation that follows the previous generation.
>
> Cheri

What's surprising is that this would have to be stated. You would think that everyone would already know this. You would be wrong.

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 7:54:10 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:18:05 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1c6dcc7f-8efd-43de-ba6a-
> >>
> >> I never cared for Apple and have been trying to warn people about Google
> >> for
> >> almost a decade. However, I would like to work for Google - please.
> >>
> >> If you ask me, anybody that thinks Windows is not a fat, bloated,
> >> unreliable, OS has never spent any time with Windows. These days, when
> >> there's a chance to ditch Windows, everyone seems to think it's the
> >> greatest
> >> thing since sliced wafers. I think all y'alls are insane!
> >>
> >> ============
> >>
> >> Personally, I love Windows98 the best of any of the Win OS's, I would not
> >> want to ditch Windows but then I am not reliant on a computer to do a
> >> wide
> >> range of things as many people are. I'm one of those "simple users." LOL
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Well God bless ya. I use Windows 10 and 7 at work. I have a Windows 10
> > tablet at home but there's not much reason to use it there. Mostly I
> > wanted to see how Windows 10 in tablet mode works. I cannot say it works
> > swell.
>
> =========
>
> I know Vista has been a pain for many people who are computer savvy, but it
> has been fine for me. There are no updates for it anymore, but I don't need
> updates. Win7 seems fine, but I've been nervous about switching to Win10.
> I use Win98 for most of the old games I play, and also because it has a huge
> library of Napster on it. Yes, I know...but I'm not deleting them and it's
> not connected to the internet anymore at any rate.
>
> Cheri

I didn't have problems with Vista. It was as if the people that bitched about Vista never used it. There seemed to be a beat Vista down bandwagon/hysteria.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:52:03 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:06:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always
> > > > >stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question
> > > > >about my
> > > > >statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it
> > > > >up. Please
> > > > >be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't
> > > > >here to chitchat.
> > > >
> > > > You are so utterly predicable when forced to confront your own stupid
> > > > comments
> > >
> > > Nobody here appears to have a dog in the fight because they are either
> > > home users and don't care or use another platform, like Linsux. I
> > > fully agree with dsi1 that cloud computing is the wave of the future,
> > > as are self-driving cars.
> >
> > The problem is that you and dsi1 don't know what the "cloud" is. You're
> > two blindfolded people trying to show others the way. It can be
> > entertaining though. So please don't stop on my account.
>
> I won't. Of course you do realize I scoff at you as much as you scoff
> at me. Steve can blow it out his ass the way he usually does.

It's not just Supermarket Steve.

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead.
>>
>> I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water.
>>
>> Cheri
>> =========
>>
>> What is a 357 plan?
>
> It ain't a health plan, think magnum.
>
> Cheri
> ==============
>
> Dohhhhhhhhhhhh gotacha ) Plenty of gin and then Helium for me

That sounds like a much better plan than no food or liquid, though hopefully
none of us have to be instituting the plans for a very long time.

Cheri

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Fingers crossed)



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"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > "sf" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead.
>> >
>> > I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>> > =========
>> >
>> > What is a 357 plan?
>>
>> It ain't a health plan, think magnum.
>
> I think Ophelia's more into Higgins.
>
> ========
>
> OK explain that one?

Did you ever watch the old tv show Magnum P.I.? Tom Selleck was Magnum and
Higgins was played by John Hillerman the overseer of the estate on the
series.

Cheri

==============

No, I haven't I thought he might be referring to Professor Higgins from
Pygmalion



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"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"dsi1" > wrote in message news:1c6dcc7f-8efd-43de-ba6a-

I never cared for Apple and have been trying to warn people about Google for
almost a decade. However, I would like to work for Google - please.

If you ask me, anybody that thinks Windows is not a fat, bloated,
unreliable, OS has never spent any time with Windows. These days, when
there's a chance to ditch Windows, everyone seems to think it's the greatest
thing since sliced wafers. I think all y'alls are insane!

============

Personally, I love Windows98 the best of any of the Win OS's, I would not
want to ditch Windows but then I am not reliant on a computer to do a wide
range of things as many people are. I'm one of those "simple users." LOL

Cheri
============

Win98 was my absolute favourite! I was really sorry when mine went down the
tubes



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wrote in message ...

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:18:06 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:22:14 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a
>> week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to
>> die. A drug overdose sounds better to me.
>
>What if you had no drugs to overdose on?

You just need a diabetic friend who will give you a vial of insulin
(given you are not diabetic) and for good measure after you inject the
insulin, take a handful of Aleve, or Naprozen and voila, you're gone.

==============

Much easier to have a good few drinks and then inhale helium.

"Cause of death[edit] Inhalation of 100% pure helium (which is not mixed
with oxygen) causes rapid death due to oxygen deprivation (since the helium
displace the oxygen).when breathing pure helium inside a plastic bag,
unconsciousness follows after about 5 breaths."

Apparently one doesn't get the panic one would normally get from lack of
oxygen.

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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >, says...
> > >
> > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > "Cheri" wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > "sf" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead.
> > > >
> > > > I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheri
> > > > =========
> > > >
> > > > What is a 357 plan?
> > >
> > > It ain't a health plan, think magnum.
> >
> > I think Ophelia's more into Higgins.
> >
> > ========
> >
> > OK explain that one?
>
> Magnum was an American whereas Higgins, from the same TV series, was
> very English.
>
> ==============
>
> In my case it would be more like Webley ... ;-)

Like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Webley_IMG_6789.jpg

I like the ring at the bottom of the handle. For easy attachment to
one's belt or a nail in the kitchen wall.

========

Good luck with that, especially in UK )))

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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:13:26 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > dsiyahoo.com says...
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> > > > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand
> > > by my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my
> > > statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up.
> > > Please be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't
> > > here to chitchat.
> >
> > Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time with
> > your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
>
> So you don't believe that the younger generation sees computers
> differently than old folks? It none of my business what you believe in.
> What's it got to do with me? You old guys crack me up!

Good, at least you're not fuming anymore.

===========

His sense of humour won't let him fume for long )



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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 9/21/2016 4:37 PM, dsi1 wrote:


> Tattoos - they're not just for youngsters anymore.
>
> https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/artic...d-chin-tattoos
>

I thought it would be a great idea and showed my wife the photos. "get
the hell out of here" was her reply. I don't understand that attitude.

==================

LOL the lady has good taste))


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"William" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:29:03 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
ET...
>
>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > "sf" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead.
>> >
>> > I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>> > =========
>> >
>> > What is a 357 plan?
>>
>> It ain't a health plan, think magnum.
>
>I think Ophelia's more into Higgins.
>
>========
>
>OK explain that one?


this is the way some folks check out Ophelia:


http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server51...0.1280.JPG?c=2


it's very messy


William

=============

Yes I think I prefer my way. It won't be nice for those who find me with
all the paraphernalia, but at least it won't be messy.





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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:20 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> >> > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> >>
> >> It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by
> >> my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement
> >> that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be
> >> specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to
> >> chitchat.
> >
> >Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time with
> >your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
>
> That would be pretty much every post of his on tech matters, in all
> seriousness.

True, I'd have my hands full.

===========

Nobody is forced to read his posts. The fact that they do means either they
like an argument, don't recognise his type of humour or just like to strut
around 'knowing better'. )



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In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > T...
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > > T...
> > >
> > > In article >, says...
> > > >
> > > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > "Cheri" wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "sf" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > >> Stop all food and liquids. A week or so of that, and you're dead.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like my 357 plan better, can't imagine even one day without water.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheri
> > > > > =========
> > > > >
> > > > > What is a 357 plan?
> > > >
> > > > It ain't a health plan, think magnum.
> > >
> > > I think Ophelia's more into Higgins.
> > >
> > > ========
> > >
> > > OK explain that one?
> >
> > Magnum was an American whereas Higgins, from the same TV series, was
> > very English.
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > In my case it would be more like Webley ... ;-)
>
> Like this?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Webley_IMG_6789.jpg
>
> I like the ring at the bottom of the handle. For easy attachment to
> one's belt or a nail in the kitchen wall.
>
> ========
>
> Good luck with that, especially in UK )))

Maybe not

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:20 +1000, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In article >,
> > says...
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> > >
> > >> > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> > >>
> > >> It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by
> > >> my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement
> > >> that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be
> > >> specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to
> > >> chitchat.
> > >
> > >Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time with
> > >your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
> >
> > That would be pretty much every post of his on tech matters, in all
> > seriousness.
>
> True, I'd have my hands full.
>
> ===========
>
> Nobody is forced to read his posts. The fact that they do means either they
> like an argument, don't recognise his type of humour or just like to strut
> around 'knowing better'. )

All 3!

"Bruce" wrote in message
...

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:20 +1000, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In article >,
> > says...
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
> > >
> > >> > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
> > >>
> > >> It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand
> > >> by
> > >> my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement
> > >> that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be
> > >> specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to
> > >> chitchat.
> > >
> > >Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time
> > >with
> > >your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
> >
> > That would be pretty much every post of his on tech matters, in all
> > seriousness.
>
> True, I'd have my hands full.
>
> ===========
>
> Nobody is forced to read his posts. The fact that they do means either
> they
> like an argument, don't recognise his type of humour or just like to strut
> around 'knowing better'. )

All 3!

===========

Such fame and popularity)



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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:24:15 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> T...
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:20 +1000, Bruce >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >In article >,
>> > says...
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:43:06 AM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> > So far, nobody here agrees with you. Why is that?
>> > >>
>> > >> It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always stand by
>> > >> my statements. As usual, if you have any question about my statement
>> > >> that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it up. Please be
>> > >> specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't here to
>> > >> chitchat.
>> > >
>> > >Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's time with
>> > >your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
>> >
>> > That would be pretty much every post of his on tech matters, in all
>> > seriousness.
>>
>> True, I'd have my hands full.
>>
>> ===========
>>
>> Nobody is forced to read his posts. The fact that they do means either they
>> like an argument, don't recognise his type of humour or just like to strut
>> around 'knowing better'. )
>
>All 3!


'they 'they' 'they'. Oh, but NOT you
How in the hell does she magically miss that?
She's ****ing pathetic. Why do you always placate her?

In article >, says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:24:15 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> >says...
> >>
> >> "Bruce" wrote in message
> >> T...
> >>
> >> In article >, says...
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:20 +1000, Bruce >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Would you like me to point out when you're wasting everybody's
time with
> >> > >your cockamamie theories? I could try to catch most cases
> >> >
> >> > That would be pretty much every post of his on tech matters, in all
> >> > seriousness.
> >>
> >> True, I'd have my hands full.
> >>
> >> ===========
> >>
> >> Nobody is forced to read his posts. The fact that they do means either they
> >> like an argument, don't recognise his type of humour or just like to strut
> >> around 'knowing better'. )
> >
> >All 3!
>
>
> 'they 'they' 'they'. Oh, but NOT you
> How in the hell does she magically miss that?
> She's ****ing pathetic. Why do you always placate her?

Of course she doesn't miss that, but who says we alsways have to agree?

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:59:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:18:06 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:22:14 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a
>>>> week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to
>>>> die. A drug overdose sounds better to me.
>>>
>>>What if you had no drugs to overdose on?
>>
>> You just need a diabetic friend who will give you a vial of insulin
>> (given you are not diabetic) and for good measure after you inject the
>> insulin, take a handful of Aleve, or Naprozen and voila, you're gone.
>
>Not a particularly good choice, since people that try usually end up in a
>vegetative state instead of dead.
>
>Cheri

Clearly you know more than a doctor friend, I chose to believe him.

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 6:13:38 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-09-21 5:51 PM, Je�us wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:20:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:22:14 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Stopping food for a week won't do much, but not drinking water for a
> >>>> week will do the job. Frankly, it sounds like a very painful way to
> >>>> die. A drug overdose sounds better to me.
> >>>
> >>> What if you had no drugs to overdose on?
> >>
> >> In this day and age, who could afford them or have access to them?
> >
> > Die in another country would solve that problem. You could get a jar
> > of oxycodone here for about $20 or $6 if you're on benefits.
>
> There is a big difference in the street prices vs. pharmacy prices.
> When I was prescribed oxy almost 15 years ago it was IIRC about $18 for
> 60 pills. Thanks to my drug plan it was less than $5. At the time, the
> street price was about $20 per pill.
>
> I'll be damned if I can understand what it is about that stuff that
> someone would pay $20 for a pill that I found to be very effective at
> taking the edge off serious pain, but which left me feeling groggy and
> stupid.

If you're already stupid, and are self-medicating for having a shitty
life, it probably sounds like a good idea. Once you're hooked, that's
it.

Every time I have dental surgery, he prescribes about 20 Vicodin
and I take 2. I should see what I could get for them on the street

Or not. I doubt I'd like prison food (bringing us back on topic).

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:52:19 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:52:03 +1000, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:06:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >It doesn't matter if nobody agrees with me or not. I'll always
> > > > > >stand by my statements. As usual, if you have any question
> > > > > >about my
> > > > > >statement that need clarification, don't hesitate to bring it
> > > > > >up. Please
> > > > > >be specific - otherwise, don't ****ing waste my time. I ain't
> > > > > >here to chitchat.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are so utterly predicable when forced to confront your own stupid
> > > > > comments
> > > >
> > > > Nobody here appears to have a dog in the fight because they are either
> > > > home users and don't care or use another platform, like Linsux. I
> > > > fully agree with dsi1 that cloud computing is the wave of the future,
> > > > as are self-driving cars.
> > >
> > > The problem is that you and dsi1 don't know what the "cloud" is. You're
> > > two blindfolded people trying to show others the way. It can be
> > > entertaining though. So please don't stop on my account.
> >
> > I won't. Of course you do realize I scoff at you as much as you scoff
> > at me. Steve can blow it out his ass the way he usually does.
>
> It's not just Supermarket Steve.

You mean he has a doppelganger? I know.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2016-09-21, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Self driving cars? Yes, just a matter of time and it is progressing.

It's progressing cuz it's yet another goal of big biz to not pay for
labor. Big Biz is looking to reduce labor and its anti-slave-labor
inevitables, unions. People do not want "self-driving" cars. Business,
does.

nb

On 9/22/2016 12:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> Some horse drawn carriages had glass lamps with candles so you could see
> after dark.
>
> I suspect the carriage was often "self-driving" because the horse knew
> the way home.
>
My Dad said that his father's horse always knew its way home (early 1900s).