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Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
'never sausage, of any sort' lol I mentioned it because I saw
Martha Stewart put chorizo in it.
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On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
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> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
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> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol

For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
fan but I'd have the sausage.

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In article >,
says...
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>
> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol I mentioned it because I saw
> Martha Stewart put chorizo in it.

He said "my version" so he could have put baby seals in it if he'd
wanted to.
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On 2016-10-05 2:06 PM, wrote:
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> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>
> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol I mentioned it because I saw
> Martha Stewart put chorizo in it.
>


I am not Spanish. I have only had paella once. That was about 20 years
ago and I am pretty sure it had chicken and sausage. I searched for
recipes on line and a lot of them called for sausage. It seems that it
was originally a seasonal region dish unique to Valencia, where it was
made with seafood, but it has spread to other regions of Spain where
they add meat and sausage.

It looks like The Guardian is trying to make a mountain out of a
molehill. Online comments can get silly.
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On 2016-10-05, Nancy Young > wrote:

> Not a seafood fan but I'd have the sausage.

Lose the rice and I'll consider it.

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
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>On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>
>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>
>For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>fan but I'd have the sausage.
>
>nancy

Well just about anything else can go in it, chicken, pork even beef
chunks, just not sausage
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Nancy Young wrote:
>lucretiaborgia wrote:
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>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>
>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>
>For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>fan but I'd have the sausage.
>
>nancy

Heheh, that's normal... most gals prefer big spicey saw-seege to teeny
dwarf shrimp. LOL
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On 10/5/2016 5:16 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 5-Oct-2016, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>>
>>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>>
>> For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>> fan but I'd have the sausage.

> +1
> In fact, leave out some of the seafood to make room for the sausage.

Exactly. I'd be happy with chicken and sausage paella though it
would horrify the Guardian.

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:54:28 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2016-10-05 5:41 PM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:31:45 -0400, Nancy Young
>
>>> Exactly. I'd be happy with chicken and sausage paella though it
>>> would horrify the Guardian.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> It wasn't the Guardian who was horrified, they merely reported that
>> Spaniards who are madly disagreeing with one another politically at
>> the moment, as one condemned Jamie for putting sausage in a paella.
>>
>
>I read past the headline and the first paragraph where the reader is
>given the impression that it was Spaniards who were up in arms. He
>posted in Twitter and the replies were in English. I would not bet too
>much money on a lot of his Twitter followers being Spanish. Most
>Spaniards have probably never heard of him. Outside of Valencia they do
>meat sausage and other meats in paella.My bet is that the trashy British
>tabloid has twisted reality to slam Jamie Oliver. Notice that at the
>bottom of the page is another article about him and his unhappy
>employees and using the same photo.

You must be thinking Daily Mail, News of the World some papers like
that, Guardian is a well respected paper. Yes, it has problems now, as
do all newspapers, I also read the London Daily Telegraph and it is
not the paper it was a few years ago. They don't need to slam him,
he is heartily disliked in the UK, partly the reason he spent nearly a
year over here.
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In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 09:43:17 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 08:46:17 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:41:32 -0300, wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>It wasn't the Guardian who was horrified, they merely reported that
> >> >>Spaniards who are madly disagreeing with one another politically at
> >> >>the moment, as one condemned Jamie for putting sausage in a paella.
> >> >
> >> >He will go down as one of history's true monsters.
> >>
> >> I can't abide him and he somehow conned my supermarket into carrying
> >> his line, really burned me that my granddaughter asked me to collect
> >> the stamps for her so she could get some Oliver stuff
> >
> >What's so wrong about him? He's just one of many irritating TV chefs.
> >The last time I watched him, he was trying to introduce healthier food
> >in American schools, which was like teaching Arabs about human rights.
>
> Wasn't that in the English schools, the school lunches?

He probably did it there first, but I saw him do it in the US.

> I've never seen him cooking and can't say I'd be interested to either.

I don't think there's anything wrong with his food. The way it's shot is
a bit faster, for a younger audience. 30 year olds or so.

> You can pretty well guarantee that when he campaigns for something, it
> appears good but the benefit is to him.

Yes. They're all irritating prima donnas. I find Gordon Ramsay and
Nigella Lawson, for instance, just as irritating. Or Marco Pierre
White... brrr. He's got such a big ego, he's barely able to speak to
mortals anymore. Soon he'll only communicate using simple head and hand
gestures.
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On 10/5/2016 8:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-10-05 7:55 PM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:07:05 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/5/2016 4:26 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:54:28 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> . They don't need to slam him,
>>>> he is heartily disliked in the UK,
>>>
>>> That hasn't been my impression during my annual visits.
>>> Graham
>>
>> There was huge controversy over the school lunches as I understood it.
>>
>
> Please provide the details of this huge controversy. From what I read,
> followup tests on students showed significant improvements in academic
> performance after they stopped feeding the kids crap and gave them
> nutritious food.
>

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/oct/03/2
Jamie's school dinners: what went wrong?

· Three of the primary schools visited reported that younger pupils
could not manage a knife and fork

· Some schools misunderstood the "five-a-day" fruit and veg
recommendations and included potatoes

· One teenager told inspectors that he had become far fitter as a result
of regular walks to a nearby chip shop

· Pupils snacked on fizzy drinks and sweets on the way to schools

· At one secondary school counsellors were brought in to help a group of
high-performing year 10 girls who smoked and were involved in substance
abuse, and were skipping meals in an attempt to lose weight

· Pupils frequently said that the portions were small and left them
still feeling hungry


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On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
> >
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
> >
> > Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
> > My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
> > 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>
> For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
> fan but I'd have the sausage.
>

Lucretia is taking advice from someone who obviously doesn't know much
about her own country's cuisine. Paella is a Spanish dish and seafood
didn't travel very far from the coast before the advent of
refrigeration. One typical non-seafood paella is chicken and sausage,
so Jamie isn't breaking new ground. You can also find vegetarian
versions of paella. http://www.spain-recipes.com/paellarecipes.html


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On 10/5/2016 6:50 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>>
>>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>>
>> For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>> fan but I'd have the sausage.
>>
>
> Lucretia is taking advice from someone who obviously doesn't know much
> about her own country's cuisine. Paella is a Spanish dish and seafood
> didn't travel very far from the coast before the advent of
> refrigeration. One typical non-seafood paella is chicken and sausage,
> so Jamie isn't breaking new ground. You can also find vegetarian
> versions of paella. http://www.spain-recipes.com/paellarecipes.html
>
>
In France, there are 3 versions of cassoulet, each claiming to be the
authentic one. The same goes for bouillabaisse.
Graham
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On 2016-10-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/oct/03/2
> Jamie's school dinners: what went wrong?
>
> · Three of the primary schools visited reported that younger pupils
> could not manage a knife and fork

This is JO's fault?

> · Some schools misunderstood the "five-a-day" fruit and veg
> recommendations and included potatoes

Last I heard, a potato is a vegetable. JO should be blamed for being
as dumb as "some schools"?

> · One teenager told inspectors that he had become far fitter as a result
> of regular walks to a nearby chip shop

One? Might be an Anunnaki!

> · Pupils snacked on fizzy drinks and sweets on the way to schools

This has WHAT do do with anything?

> · At one secondary school counsellors were brought in to help a group of
> high-performing year 10 girls who smoked and were involved in substance
> abuse, and were skipping meals in an attempt to lose weight

See above.

> · Pupils frequently said that the portions were small and left them
> still feeling hungry

As opposed to what? A fag and a bag o' CrackerJacks?

If this is the how JO's suggestions went wrong, I'm sure he's laughing
his ass off.

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On 2016-10-05 8:41 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/5/2016 8:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-10-05 7:55 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:07:05 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/5/2016 4:26 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:54:28 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> . They don't need to slam him,
>>>>> he is heartily disliked in the UK,
>>>>
>>>> That hasn't been my impression during my annual visits.
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> There was huge controversy over the school lunches as I understood it.
>>>
>>
>> Please provide the details of this huge controversy. From what I read,
>> followup tests on students showed significant improvements in academic
>> performance after they stopped feeding the kids crap and gave them
>> nutritious food.
>>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/oct/03/2
> Jamie's school dinners: what went wrong?

Thanks, but I was looking forward to lucretia's explanation about all
that controversy.


>
> · Three of the primary schools visited reported that younger pupils
> could not manage a knife and fork
>

That sounds more like a failure of the parents to use itensils No wonder
the kids eat crap.

> · Some schools misunderstood the "five-a-day" fruit and veg
> recommendations and included potatoes
>
> · One teenager told inspectors that he had become far fitter as a result
> of regular walks to a nearby chip shop

One out of how many?
>
> · Pupils snacked on fizzy drinks and sweets on the way to schools

They could have been doing that before.

>
> · At one secondary school counsellors were brought in to help a group of
> high-performing year 10 girls who smoked and were involved in substance
> abuse, and were skipping meals in an attempt to lose weight

That had little to do with Oliver's program.


>
> · Pupils frequently said that the portions were small and left them
> still feeling hungry

It is interesting to note that the news story links to the report from
which they got their information. For some reason, they reported only
the negative aspects.

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On 2016-10-05 8:55 PM, graham wrote:
> On 10/5/2016 6:50 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>>>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>>>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>>>
>>> For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>>> fan but I'd have the sausage.
>>>
>>
>> Lucretia is taking advice from someone who obviously doesn't know much
>> about her own country's cuisine. Paella is a Spanish dish and seafood
>> didn't travel very far from the coast before the advent of
>> refrigeration. One typical non-seafood paella is chicken and sausage,
>> so Jamie isn't breaking new ground. You can also find vegetarian
>> versions of paella. http://www.spain-recipes.com/paellarecipes.html
>>
>>
> In France, there are 3 versions of cassoulet, each claiming to be the
> authentic one. The same goes for bouillabaisse.


And all the French speakers in those regions are hooked on Jamie
Oliver's Twitterings.


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On 10/5/2016 7:02 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-10-05 8:55 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 10/5/2016 6:50 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>>>>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>>>>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>>>>
>>>> For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>>>> fan but I'd have the sausage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lucretia is taking advice from someone who obviously doesn't know much
>>> about her own country's cuisine. Paella is a Spanish dish and seafood
>>> didn't travel very far from the coast before the advent of
>>> refrigeration. One typical non-seafood paella is chicken and sausage,
>>> so Jamie isn't breaking new ground. You can also find vegetarian
>>> versions of paella. http://www.spain-recipes.com/paellarecipes.html
>>>
>>>
>> In France, there are 3 versions of cassoulet, each claiming to be the
>> authentic one. The same goes for bouillabaisse.
>
>
> And all the French speakers in those regions are hooked on Jamie
> Oliver's Twitterings.
>
>
But not his chitterlings.
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On 10/5/2016 6:41 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/5/2016 8:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-10-05 7:55 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:07:05 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/5/2016 4:26 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:54:28 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> . They don't need to slam him,
>>>>> he is heartily disliked in the UK,
>>>>
>>>> That hasn't been my impression during my annual visits.
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> There was huge controversy over the school lunches as I understood it.
>>>
>>
>> Please provide the details of this huge controversy. From what I read,
>> followup tests on students showed significant improvements in academic
>> performance after they stopped feeding the kids crap and gave them
>> nutritious food.
>>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/oct/03/2
> Jamie's school dinners: what went wrong?
>
> · Three of the primary schools visited reported that younger pupils
> could not manage a knife and fork
>
> · Some schools misunderstood the "five-a-day" fruit and veg
> recommendations and included potatoes
>
I recall on his US school meal show that it was French Fries that were
considered to be part of the 5-a-day.
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 20:41:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> · Some schools misunderstood the "five-a-day" fruit and veg
> recommendations and included potatoes

That seems to be a common British misconception. I belonged to a
British food group where supposedly normal thinking adults steadfastly
counted potatoes in the 5 a day.


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On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
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>On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>>
>> Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>> My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>> 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>
>For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>fan but I'd have the sausage.
>
>nancy

Hehe... most gals prefer a big spicy saw-seege to a wee shrimp.
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>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 09:43:17 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> says...
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 08:46:17 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:41:32 -0300, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>It wasn't the Guardian who was horrified, they merely reported that
>> >> >>Spaniards who are madly disagreeing with one another politically at
>> >> >>the moment, as one condemned Jamie for putting sausage in a paella.
>> >> >
>> >> >He will go down as one of history's true monsters.
>> >>
>> >> I can't abide him and he somehow conned my supermarket into carrying
>> >> his line, really burned me that my granddaughter asked me to collect
>> >> the stamps for her so she could get some Oliver stuff
>> >
>> >What's so wrong about him? He's just one of many irritating TV chefs.
>> >The last time I watched him, he was trying to introduce healthier food
>> >in American schools, which was like teaching Arabs about human rights.
>>
>> Wasn't that in the English schools, the school lunches?
>
>He probably did it there first, but I saw him do it in the US.
>
>> I've never seen him cooking and can't say I'd be interested to either.
>
>I don't think there's anything wrong with his food. The way it's shot is
>a bit faster, for a younger audience. 30 year olds or so.
>
>> You can pretty well guarantee that when he campaigns for something, it
>> appears good but the benefit is to him.
>
>Yes. They're all irritating prima donnas. I find Gordon Ramsay and
>Nigella Lawson, for instance, just as irritating. Or Marco Pierre
>White... brrr. He's got such a big ego, he's barely able to speak to
>mortals anymore. Soon he'll only communicate using simple head and hand
>gestures.

I agree on television chefs, that's why I enjoyed the Baking Show put
out by BBC, no screaming and shouting at the contestants etc.
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 17:50:08 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:38:21 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/2016 2:06 PM, wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-against-him
>> >
>> > Too funny in the Guardian today, bet the idiot didn't see it coming.
>> > My Spanish cousin-in-law when teaching me how to make paella, said
>> > 'never sausage, of any sort' lol
>>
>> For me it's one more reason not to care for paella. Not a seafood
>> fan but I'd have the sausage.
>>
>
>Lucretia is taking advice from someone who obviously doesn't know much
>about her own country's cuisine. Paella is a Spanish dish and seafood
>didn't travel very far from the coast before the advent of
>refrigeration. One typical non-seafood paella is chicken and sausage,
>so Jamie isn't breaking new ground. You can also find vegetarian
>versions of paella. http://www.spain-recipes.com/paellarecipes.html

I'm sure you know more about the Spanish than Spaniards but you will
note Oliver is receiving adverse tweets and mail from Spaniards about
it -
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