In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
> > appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
> > is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
> > and brew it for her too.
>
> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
> non-starter for me.

Hundreds of dollars to grind coffee? What perfectionist hype is that?

On 2016-10-09, Dave Smith > wrote:

> You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.

Really? Maybe a used rebuilt on ebay. The cheapest burr grinder I've
ever seen (and purchased) was made in Spain and cost $165 (new). This
was 15 yrs ago. Heck, even my used Mazzer Jolly cost $100 and the
grind adjustment was cross threaded and so unable to function properly
until I pay big bucks to have it repaired.

Please, clue us in to this astonishing grinder deal.

nb

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 15:35:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-10-09 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
>>> appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
>>> is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
>>> and brew it for her too.
>>
>> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
>> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
>> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
>> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
>> non-starter for me.
>
>You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.

I've never seen a decent one under $300, would like to see the one you
mean.

>A blade grinder
>works great for a drip grind blend. I don't like to use the store
>grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
>coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
>coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.

Agreed. Coffee shouldn't be messed with, any other flavours are never
as good as the coffee to begin with.

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 06:40:02 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, sf says...
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> > Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
>> > appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
>> > is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
>> > and brew it for her too.
>>
>> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
>> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
>> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
>> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
>> non-starter for me.
>
>Hundreds of dollars to grind coffee? What perfectionist hype is that?

You're not a coffee lover then.

On 10/9/2016 3:19 PM, sf wrote:

> I don't buy multiple bags of coffee at any one time, so storing them
> is never an issue. It's worth a couple of bucks to me to buy it as
> fresh as possible. I'm not worried about condensation which is
> something I've never seen. The only thing that concerns me is the oil
> drying out, which will happen no matter how the coffee stored. AFAIC,
> it degrades at a slower rate in the freezer, so that's where I store
> mine.
>
>

If you go to the trouble of buying as fresh as possible, why not enjoy
the freshness of just ground? Once ground the oils start to dissipate
rapidly compared to whole beans. A good grinder will last years. We
have a Baratza but there are others, less than $50 for Cuisinart.

I hope you are buying from a place with good turnover too. The
supermarket can be months old by the time you get it home. Many places
roast and ship at most 24 hours.

In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 06:40:02 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, sf says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
> >> > appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
> >> > is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
> >> > and brew it for her too.
> >>
> >> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
> >> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
> >> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
> >> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
> >> non-starter for me.
> >
> >Hundreds of dollars to grind coffee? What perfectionist hype is that?
>
> You're not a coffee lover then.

You're just snobs with too much time on your hands

On 10/9/2016 3:48 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-10-09, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.
>
> Really? Maybe a used rebuilt on ebay. The cheapest burr grinder I've
> ever seen (and purchased) was made in Spain and cost $165 (new). This
> was 15 yrs ago. Heck, even my used Mazzer Jolly cost $100 and the
> grind adjustment was cross threaded and so unable to function properly
> until I pay big bucks to have it repaired.
>
> Please, clue us in to this astonishing grinder deal.
>
> nb
>

Target? WalMart? You can get a Mr. Coffee burr grinder for about $35.
Never used one so I don't know how good they are. Cuisinart is $50.

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
says...
>
> On 10/9/2016 3:19 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > I don't buy multiple bags of coffee at any one time, so storing them
> > is never an issue. It's worth a couple of bucks to me to buy it as
> > fresh as possible. I'm not worried about condensation which is
> > something I've never seen. The only thing that concerns me is the oil
> > drying out, which will happen no matter how the coffee stored. AFAIC,
> > it degrades at a slower rate in the freezer, so that's where I store
> > mine.
> >
> >
>
> If you go to the trouble of buying as fresh as possible, why not enjoy
> the freshness of just ground?

Because snobby coffee geeks think you need a $5000 industrial coffee
grinder that cold-grinds coffee beans whilst working around the
essential coffee oils that would otherwise be broken up at the molecular
level.

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:35:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>I hope you are buying from a place with good turnover too. The
>supermarket can be months old by the time you get it home. Many places
>roast and ship at most 24 hours.

Supermarket coffee is stale before it even hits the shelves.

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:35:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> If you go to the trouble of buying as fresh as possible, why not enjoy
> the freshness of just ground? Once ground the oils start to dissipate
> rapidly compared to whole beans. A good grinder will last years. We
> have a Baratza but there are others, less than $50 for Cuisinart.

From everthing I've read here - the grind isn't very good until you're
up to $200+ and I'd rather have them do it for me at that price.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:37:00 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 06:40:02 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, sf says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
>> >> > appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
>> >> > is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
>> >> > and brew it for her too.
>> >>
>> >> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
>> >> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
>> >> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
>> >> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
>> >> non-starter for me.
>> >
>> >Hundreds of dollars to grind coffee? What perfectionist hype is that?
>>
>> You're not a coffee lover then.
>
>You're just snobs with too much time on your hands

And you have no taste buds if you can't taste the difference. IIRC,
you're wine drinker? Do you prefer cardboard box 'goon' or a bottle of
grange hermitage?

If you think my owning a burr grinder is bad, I very nearly bought a
roaster years ago... thankfully I didn't take things quite that far.

On 2016-10-09 3:48 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-10-09, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.
>
> Really? Maybe a used rebuilt on ebay. The cheapest burr grinder I've
> ever seen (and purchased) was made in Spain and cost $165 (new). This
> was 15 yrs ago.


I bought one for under $100 at Future Shop last year. Maybe selling them
for so much less than cost is why they closed up. I just Googled "burr
grinder" and three electric models came up, DeLonghi $99.99, Oster
$63.74 and Capresso $89.99 . Breville has one for $254.95


> Heck, even my used Mazzer Jolly cost $100 and the
> grind adjustment was cross threaded and so unable to function properly
> until I pay big bucks to have it repaired.
>
> Please, clue us in to this astonishing grinder deal.
>
> nb
>

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 15:35:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100. A blade grinder
> works great for a drip grind blend. I don't like to use the store
> grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
> coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
> coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.

I agree about flavored coffee, but I never had a problem with store
grinders (a thing of the past here). All you need to be is proactive
- make sure the bin and shoot are clear before you grind.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 2016-10-09 4:32 PM, Je�us wrote:

>
> I've never seen a decent one under $300, would like to see the one you
> mean.

I have a Delonghi... Currently $99.99 at The Bay. I paid less for that
at the now defunct Future Shop.


>
>> I don't like to use the store
>> grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
>> coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
>> coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.
>
> Agreed. Coffee shouldn't be messed with, any other flavours are never
> as good as the coffee to begin with.

I guess some people would disagree because they sell a lot of it. I just
wish they would not allow them to grind them in the store grinder.
Before I got my burr grinder I used to overfill the bag with beans and
pass some through the grinder to try to purge the grinder, but even that
was not completely effective because the works are fine dust that is
saturated with the overpowering taste.

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:55:00 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-10-09 4:32 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>
>> I've never seen a decent one under $300, would like to see the one you
>> mean.
>
>I have a Delonghi... Currently $99.99 at The Bay. I paid less for that
>at the now defunct Future Shop.

I do wonder how good they could be for those prices. Mine is 8 years
old at this point and on average has ground two double portafilters
worth each day. The burr grinder is slowing down a bit now, I can get
replacement burrs for around $70. I should probably think about
getting a new set now.

This is my grinder:
https://www.danes.com.au/shop-online...acinino-detail
I see the price is up to $500 now... eek.

>>> I don't like to use the store
>>> grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
>>> coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
>>> coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.
>>
>> Agreed. Coffee shouldn't be messed with, any other flavours are never
>> as good as the coffee to begin with.
>
>I guess some people would disagree because they sell a lot of it.

True. I've tried many that sounded appealing/interesting - but not
once was it better than plain coffee. I'm a real coffee lover though.

>I just
>wish they would not allow them to grind them in the store grinder.
>Before I got my burr grinder I used to overfill the bag with beans and
>pass some through the grinder to try to purge the grinder, but even that
>was not completely effective because the works are fine dust that is
>saturated with the overpowering taste.

I haven't seen one of those machines for years now, they were once
quite common in Aus supermarkets.

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
says...
>
> On 10/9/2016 3:48 PM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2016-10-09, Dave Smith > wrote:
> >
> >> You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.
> >
> > Really? Maybe a used rebuilt on ebay. The cheapest burr grinder I've
> > ever seen (and purchased) was made in Spain and cost $165 (new). This
> > was 15 yrs ago. Heck, even my used Mazzer Jolly cost $100 and the
> > grind adjustment was cross threaded and so unable to function properly
> > until I pay big bucks to have it repaired.
> >
> > Please, clue us in to this astonishing grinder deal.
> >
> > nb
> >
>
> Target? WalMart? You can get a Mr. Coffee burr grinder for about $35.
> Never used one so I don't know how good they are. Cuisinart is $50.

Coffe snobs are never going to approve of a $35 grinder. If you want to
be a coffee speshialist, that doesn't cut it.

In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:35:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >I hope you are buying from a place with good turnover too. The
> >supermarket can be months old by the time you get it home. Many places
> >roast and ship at most 24 hours.
>
> Supermarket coffee is stale before it even hits the shelves.

Of course

In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:35:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > If you go to the trouble of buying as fresh as possible, why not enjoy
> > the freshness of just ground? Once ground the oils start to dissipate
> > rapidly compared to whole beans. A good grinder will last years. We
> > have a Baratza but there are others, less than $50 for Cuisinart.
>
> From everthing I've read here - the grind isn't very good until you're
> up to $200+ and I'd rather have them do it for me at that price.

$200? Are you a coffee pleb? You'd lose all the essential oils in the
higher octave range. Add a zero and then we can talk.

In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:37:00 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Jeßus says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 06:40:02 +1100, Bruce >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article >, sf says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
> >> >> > appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
> >> >> > is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
> >> >> > and brew it for her too.
> >> >>
> >> >> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
> >> >> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
> >> >> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
> >> >> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
> >> >> non-starter for me.
> >> >
> >> >Hundreds of dollars to grind coffee? What perfectionist hype is that?
> >>
> >> You're not a coffee lover then.
> >
> >You're just snobs with too much time on your hands
>
> And you have no taste buds if you can't taste the difference. IIRC,
> you're wine drinker? Do you prefer cardboard box 'goon' or a bottle of
> grange hermitage?

I don't drink expensive wine, but I don't drink those boxes either.

> If you think my owning a burr grinder is bad, I very nearly bought a
> roaster years ago... thankfully I didn't take things quite that far.

Can't you pan roast coffee too?

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 3:48:25 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-10-09, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.
>
> Really? Maybe a used rebuilt on ebay. The cheapest burr grinder I've
> ever seen (and purchased) was made in Spain and cost $165 (new). This
> was 15 yrs ago. Heck, even my used Mazzer Jolly cost $100 and the
> grind adjustment was cross threaded and so unable to function properly
> until I pay big bucks to have it repaired.
>
> Please, clue us in to this astonishing grinder deal.
>
> nb

I've got this one:

<https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CBM-18N-Programmable-Conical-Burr/dp/B001NGO28Q>

I've been using it for about a year and a half.

They have reconditioned ones for as little as $35.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 15:35:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
snip
>You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100. A blade grinder
>works great for a drip grind blend. I don't like to use the store
>grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
>coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
>coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.

Boy! you're right on this one. I know to use the brush on the store
machine and use the lever to empty the slot -- it doesn't matter.
Those oils from the flavored coffees are still there.
I grind my beans just before I make coffee.
Janet US

On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:19:16 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 17:13:40 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>> I don't store the unopened bags in the freezer. They are vacuum
>> packed. Besides, you are not supposed to store coffee beans in the
>> freezer. The condensation is not good.
>
>I don't buy multiple bags of coffee at any one time, so storing them
>is never an issue. It's worth a couple of bucks to me to buy it as
>fresh as possible. I'm not worried about condensation which is
>something I've never seen. The only thing that concerns me is the oil
>drying out, which will happen no matter how the coffee stored. AFAIC,
>it degrades at a slower rate in the freezer, so that's where I store
>mine.

I had no idea that you purchased already ground coffee. The
condensation from the freezer refers to the beans only.
Janet US

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 08:29:07 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:37:00 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, Jeßus says...
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 06:40:02 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article >, sf says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
>> >> >> > appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
>> >> >> > is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
>> >> >> > and brew it for her too.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
>> >> >> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
>> >> >> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
>> >> >> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
>> >> >> non-starter for me.
>> >> >
>> >> >Hundreds of dollars to grind coffee? What perfectionist hype is that?
>> >>
>> >> You're not a coffee lover then.
>> >
>> >You're just snobs with too much time on your hands
>>
>> And you have no taste buds if you can't taste the difference. IIRC,
>> you're wine drinker? Do you prefer cardboard box 'goon' or a bottle of
>> grange hermitage?
>
>I don't drink expensive wine, but I don't drink those boxes either.

No need to, it was just to illustrate a point.

>> If you think my owning a burr grinder is bad, I very nearly bought a
>> roaster years ago... thankfully I didn't take things quite that far.
>
>Can't you pan roast coffee too?

Yes, but that is a hit and miss affair, a proper roaster is not.
Anyway, as I was saying before, I thought better of it and glad I did.
I can buy decent freshly roasted beans in Launceston as cheap as green
beans and it's one less thing to have to do around here.

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 2:23:49 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
> but I prefer drip.
>
I have a burr grinder and it was well under $50 and I grind
what I need daily. I also use a drip maker.
>
> I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
> non-starter for me.

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>
> On 2016-10-09, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100.
>
> Really? Maybe a used rebuilt on ebay. The cheapest burr grinder I've
> ever seen (and purchased) was made in Spain and cost $165 (new). This
> was 15 yrs ago. Heck, even my used Mazzer Jolly cost $100 and the
> grind adjustment was cross threaded and so unable to function properly
> until I pay big bucks to have it repaired.
>
> Please, clue us in to this astonishing grinder deal.
>
> nb
>
>
I've got a Bodum burr grinder I bought 3 or 4 years ago for
well under $50. I can dial however fine or coarse that I
want. You just haven't looked around to see what's available
these days.

On 10/9/2016 3:33 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 15:35:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> snip
>> You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100. A blade grinder
>> works great for a drip grind blend. I don't like to use the store
>> grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
>> coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
>> coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.
>
> Boy! you're right on this one. I know to use the brush on the store
> machine and use the lever to empty the slot -- it doesn't matter.
> Those oils from the flavored coffees are still there.
> I grind my beans just before I make coffee.
> Janet US
>
I tried grinding a few beans to clean out the machine but that didn't
work. I haven't ground coffee in a s/m for many years.

sf wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > I even discovered that "Everyday Essential" wuss sauce tastes
> > every bit as good as L&P. That was a good find.
>
> I haven't seen that brand. I tried French's once and it was vile.
> What store chain do you find it in? I see it's at Target, but I don't
> shop for groceries there - which might be why I haven't seen it.

I always seem to get that brand-X name wrong.
It's "Essential Everyday" not "Everyday Essential"

I've always been loyal to L&P until one day I had both. So I did a side
by side comparison and was surprised at the results. The Frenchs was a
bit more salty. The L&P was very sweet and almost sickenly sweet. Then I
tried the generic stuff and it was fine to me. Once it's cooked with
beef, you really don't get the full taste anyway. I always use one when
cooking any beef....steaks or burgers.

I buy the generic at my local grocery store...Farm Fresh. It's a chain
but only a local one in Virginia and North Carolina only, I think.

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > I even discovered that "Everyday Essential" wuss sauce tastes
> > > every bit as good as L&P. That was a good find.
> >
> > I haven't seen that brand. I tried French's once and it was vile.
> > What store chain do you find it in? I see it's at Target, but I
> > don't shop for groceries there - which might be why I haven't seen
> > it.
>
> I always seem to get that brand-X name wrong.
> It's "Essential Everyday" not "Everyday Essential"
>
> I've always been loyal to L&P until one day I had both. So I did a
> side by side comparison and was surprised at the results. The Frenchs
> was a bit more salty. The L&P was very sweet and almost sickenly
> sweet. Then I tried the generic stuff and it was fine to me. Once
> it's cooked with beef, you really don't get the full taste anyway. I
> always use one when cooking any beef....steaks or burgers.
>
> I buy the generic at my local grocery store...Farm Fresh. It's a chain
> but only a local one in Virginia and North Carolina only, I think.

Hi Gary, glad to see you back. I was sure you were ok.



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It works better, when trying to get (especially) ketchup out of a bottle, to
tap the bottle solidly on your other hand keeping the bottle at about a
45 degree angle.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> It works better, when trying to get (especially) ketchup out of a bottle, to
> tap the bottle solidly on your other hand keeping the bottle at about a
> 45 degree angle.
>
> N.

When my ketchup bottles get low, I store them upside-down. No wait doing
it that way.

Gary wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> It works better, when trying to get (especially) ketchup out of a bottle, to
>> tap the bottle solidly on your other hand keeping the bottle at about a
>> 45 degree angle.
>
>When my ketchup bottles get low, I store them upside-down. No wait doing
>it that way.

The new ketchup bottles are made with an extra wide flip-top cap, they
are meant to stand on their head... just be aware when opening not to
place any pressure on that plastic bottle or it will ejaculate ketchup
all over you.

On 10/8/2016 12:48 PM, KenK wrote:
> Gary > wrote in :
>
>> I often buy and try generic products. Some are just as good
>> and often much cheaper. That or I'll buy another brand
>> name product that's on sale.
>>
>
> Perhaps it's obvious to some but I'm pretty sure most of the store-brand
> generics are manufactured by the same people who sell the name-brand stuff
> on the shelf next to them - the label is the only difference.
>
> I usually buy the generics.
>
>
That's quite true, Ken. Depending on the product, I shop by price
point, not by brand. For example, the store brand "toasted oats" cereal
tastes exactly the same as Cheerios. The ingredients are the same, too.

Jill

On 2016-10-14 6:16 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> That's quite true, Ken. Depending on the product, I shop by price
> point, not by brand. For example, the store brand "toasted oats" cereal
> tastes exactly the same as Cheerios. The ingredients are the same, too.


There are some store brands around here that have products as good as or
better than the brand names. President's Choice has a lot of great
stuff like dipping sauces that are very good. I almost never buy sugared
cereal, but their version of frosted flakes is much better than
Kellog's. Another chain has wheat squares.... Shreddies, and every bit
as good.

Store brand cereal is usually no cheaper than brand name cereal on sale.

On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 9:10:16 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> Store brand cereal is usually no cheaper than brand name cereal on sale.
>
>
Maybe, maybe not. But you've got to wait for that name
brand cereal to go on sale to snag a bargain when the
store brand is sitting right there beckoning you to try
it and save some cash.

On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 12:28:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 9:10:16 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > Store brand cereal is usually no cheaper than brand name cereal on sale.
> >
> >
> Maybe, maybe not. But you've got to wait for that name
> brand cereal to go on sale to snag a bargain when the
> store brand is sitting right there beckoning you to try
> it and save some cash.

I tried store brand Cheerios once. Real Cheerios are all oats;
the store brand had more wheat than oats, and I could taste the
difference.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-10-15 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 12:28:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>
> I tried store brand Cheerios once. Real Cheerios are all oats;
> the store brand had more wheat than oats, and I could taste the
> difference.
>
I have had store brand frosted flakes and shreddies that are better than
the name brands.

On 10/15/2016 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I tried store brand Cheerios once. Real Cheerios are all oats;
> the store brand had more wheat than oats, and I could taste the
> difference.

If I like certain name brands over others, it stands to reason
that the store brand isn't automatically going to be Just As Good.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Maybe it's as good as the brand I
don't like.

nancy

On 10/15/2016 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 12:28:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 9:10:16 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> Store brand cereal is usually no cheaper than brand name cereal on sale.
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe, maybe not. But you've got to wait for that name
>> brand cereal to go on sale to snag a bargain when the
>> store brand is sitting right there beckoning you to try
>> it and save some cash.
>
> I tried store brand Cheerios once. Real Cheerios are all oats;
> the store brand had more wheat than oats, and I could taste the
> difference.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
All you have to do is read the labels. Buy whichever tastes best to you.

Jill

On 10/8/2016 10:26 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years
> ago.
> Skippy peanut butter
> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
> Heinz ketchup
> Hershey products
> All detergent
> King Arthur flour
> NBC nightly news
> Scott TT
> Bounty paper towels
>
> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
> Sugar
> Butter
> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
> Bourbon
> Gin
>
> How about you?

Actually, I have found that some things are actually better with store
brands:
GV brand splenda, peanut butter, decaf tea bags, some coffee

My mom is picky about some things:
Angel Soft tp
Bounty paper towels

Anything else we get what's cheapest or on sale.