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I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
Skippy peanut butter
Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
Heinz ketchup
Hershey products
All detergent
King Arthur flour
NBC nightly news
Scott TT
Bounty paper towels

Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
Sugar
Butter
loose tea, mostly Ceylon
coffee beans come from two good suppliers
Bourbon
Gin

How about you?
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
> Skippy peanut butter
> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
> Heinz ketchup
> Hershey products
> All detergent
> King Arthur flour
> NBC nightly news
> Scott TT
> Bounty paper towels
>
> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
> Sugar
> Butter
> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
> Bourbon
> Gin
>
> How about you?


I often buy and try generic products. Some are just as good
and often much cheaper. That or I'll buy another brand
name product that's on sale.

Good example is generic V-8 juice. Tastes the same at
much lower cost. That goes for many things but not all.

Going down your list quoted above,
The only things that I'm consistently 'brand loyal' to is:
- Jif peanut butter
- Lipton for iced tea (but I rarely make it)
- ALL laundry detergent (I buy the unscented)
- Angel Soft toilet paper
- Natural Ice beer
- For canned soup, Progresso is about the best, imo.

Most other things, I just shop by price.
I even discovered that "Everyday Essential" wuss sauce tastes
every bit as good as L&P. That was a good find.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
> Skippy peanut butter
> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
> Heinz ketchup
> Hershey products
> All detergent
> King Arthur flour
> NBC nightly news
> Scott TT
> Bounty paper towels
>
> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
> Sugar
> Butter
> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
> Bourbon
> Gin
>
> How about you?


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On 10/8/2016 10:26 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years
> ago.
> Skippy peanut butter
> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
> Heinz ketchup
> Hershey products
> All detergent
> King Arthur flour
> NBC nightly news
> Scott TT
> Bounty paper towels
>
> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
> Sugar
> Butter
> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
> Bourbon
> Gin
>
> How about you?


It occurred to me that I don't remember brands from when I was
a kid. Being an Army brat, it was all about what the commissary
carried. About all I can think of was cereal, it was brand name
cereal.

As for stuff I buy, I find a brand I like and I really stay
with it, takes a lot for me to change. For the first time I
picked up Bounty instead of Brawny, I doubt that will make a
huge difference to me.

Ditto with you on Skippy, Heinz ketchup, Scott TT, though I
would like to up that last one to something nicer. Tetley
for iced tea. Wise chips for the most part. Premio Italian
sausage. Maybelline Great Lash mascara.

Once in a while I'll deviate from my brand and either I'll like
it better or no difference, or it s*cks and I'm stuck with a
supply of it. That puts me off trying other brands if I'm happy
with what I normally get. Of course, I get a lot of Kirkland stuff.
Their detergent, garbage bags, etc are great.

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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 10:26:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
>years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
>Skippy peanut butter
>Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
>Heinz ketchup
>Hershey products
>All detergent
>King Arthur flour
>NBC nightly news
>Scott TT
>Bounty paper towels
>
>Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
>Sugar
>Butter
>loose tea, mostly Ceylon
>coffee beans come from two good suppliers
>Bourbon
>Gin
>
>How about you?


I only buy Frenchs Ketchup since Heinz did the dirty on Ontario tomato
growers. Whole local industry built around the ketchup factory and
they suddenly pulled out to Mexico mid-season. Thankfully French
decided it was time to have their own ketchup and they opened there
and bought the crop.


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Gary > wrote in :

> I often buy and try generic products. Some are just as good
> and often much cheaper. That or I'll buy another brand
> name product that's on sale.
>


Perhaps it's obvious to some but I'm pretty sure most of the store-brand
generics are manufactured by the same people who sell the name-brand stuff
on the shelf next to them - the label is the only difference.

I usually buy the generics.


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On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 11:48:31 AM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
>
> Perhaps it's obvious to some but I'm pretty sure most of the store-brand
> generics are manufactured by the same people who sell the name-brand stuff
> on the shelf next to them - the label is the only difference.
>
> I usually buy the generics.
>
>

That's true, and I buy a lot generic products. Wal Mart's
brand of paper towels is as good as the Bounty brand and a sight
less in price, too. They offer the full size sheets as well as
the select-a-size.

I buy a lot of house brand canned vegetables, too, and am
pleased with what I've tried so far. Those canned vegetables
might come from Kroger, Aldi's, or a local neighborhood store.

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On 10/8/2016 7:26 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years
> ago.
> Skippy peanut butter
> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
> Heinz ketchup
> Hershey products
> All detergent
> King Arthur flour
> NBC nightly news
> Scott TT
> Bounty paper towels
>
> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
> Sugar
> Butter
> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
> Bourbon
> Gin
>
> How about you?



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I bought Savealot butter last week, it's grade AA, I'll find out tomorrow if I like it.
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 10:26:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
>years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
>Skippy peanut butter
>Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
>Heinz ketchup
>Hershey products
>All detergent
>King Arthur flour
>NBC nightly news
>Scott TT
>Bounty paper towels
>
>Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
>Sugar
>Butter
>loose tea, mostly Ceylon
>coffee beans come from two good suppliers
>Bourbon
>Gin
>
>How about you?


Interesting thing Ed, I never knew I was afflicted with brand loyalty
until my wife took me into Aldi's grocery store. I did not see one
brand I was familiar with...and I did not buy anything.

William


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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 10:26:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
> Skippy peanut butter
> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
> Heinz ketchup
> Hershey products
> All detergent
> King Arthur flour
> NBC nightly news
> Scott TT
> Bounty paper towels
>
> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
> Sugar
> Butter
> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
> Bourbon
> Gin
>
> How about you?


I used to be more brand loyal than I am now. Still a Heinz fan and
always have a 28oz can of Trader Giotto's (Trader Joe's) Tuscano
Marinara Sauce on hand. Other than that, not so much. I prefer paper
towel half sheets, brand doesn't matter - I bought a store brand last
time and had no complaints. I usually buy expensive coffee, but the
grocery store had 11oz bags on sale for $5, so I tried their African
blend and it was fine. I definitely got my $5 worth.


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On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 10:59:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Going down your list quoted above,
> The only things that I'm consistently 'brand loyal' to is:
> - Jif peanut butter


I keep trying other brands, O organics is pretty good, but I find
myself going back to Jif
>
> Most other things, I just shop by price.
> I even discovered that "Everyday Essential" wuss sauce tastes
> every bit as good as L&P. That was a good find.


I haven't seen that brand. I tried French's once and it was vile.
What store chain do you find it in? I see it's at Target, but I don't
shop for groceries there - which might be why I haven't seen it.


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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 12:27:27 -0400, Nancy Young
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> I
> picked up Bounty instead of Brawny, I doubt that will make a
> huge difference to me.


I used to be brand loyal to Brawny paper towels and Northern toilet
tissue - but not anymore. Store brands are just a good and less
expensive.


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On 2016-10-08 10:26 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years
> ago.
> Skippy peanut butter


I don't eat peanut butter.

> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)


I use leftover black tea for iced tea. The commercial stuff is way too
sweet.

> Heinz ketchup

Frenchs now.... or Bodacious if I can find it.


> Hershey products

Some Hershey products are their milk chocolate bars have a peculiar
taste I can't wrap my head around.


> All detergent

I use Melaleuca.



> King Arthur flour

Robin Hood.


> Bounty paper towels


Whatever is on sale and which looks like the best deal. Look at the size
of the rolls and the number of sheets.


>
> Bourbon
> Gin
>


If you want brand loyalty, check out soft drinks, especially colas.
People tend to be stuck on Coke or Pepsi. It is a strange thing,
especially in light of the New Coke roll-out. Coke wanted a bigger
share of the market and developed a product that was more like Pepsi.
People in blind taste tests preferred the new formula, but when Coke
started flogging their New Coke people rebelled and said they wanted
their old Coke back, and it ended up being marketed as Coke Classic.
The new (old) product ended up with a larger market share than it had
before.

Beer drinkers are just as bad. They tend to buy or order only one
particular brand. From what I have heard from beer drinkers, it is
usually the one they can drink the most of without barfing or getting
gassy. I had a friend who had a bar for a while and he sold more
Labatt's Blue than all other beers combined. I have some favourites,
but I generally have several types of beer on hand because different
beers are better suited for some foods than others. The other night we
went out for supper and I opted for one particular place because they
have 24 craft beers on tap. I have been known to have several different
beers rather than ordering the same one over and over. One the last
occasion I started with a light ale because I was having fish and chips,
but after that I had a heavier one.


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On 10/8/2016 8:59 AM, Gary wrote:

> I even discovered that "Everyday Essential" wuss sauce tastes
> every bit as good as L&P. That was a good find.
>

I wouldn't dream of buying anything other than L&P!!
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 11:36:53 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 10:26:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I was thinking about some of the brands of product that we have used for
>> years. Many years in some cases, same brands my mother bought 70 years ago.
>> Skippy peanut butter
>> Lipton tea for iced tea (I buy good loose tea for hot)
>> Heinz ketchup
>> Hershey products
>> All detergent
>> King Arthur flour
>> NBC nightly news
>> Scott TT
>> Bounty paper towels
>>
>> Other items I like to try a variety or will buy generic in a few cases
>> Sugar
>> Butter
>> loose tea, mostly Ceylon
>> coffee beans come from two good suppliers
>> Bourbon
>> Gin
>>
>> How about you?

>
>I used to be more brand loyal than I am now. Still a Heinz fan and
>always have a 28oz can of Trader Giotto's (Trader Joe's) Tuscano
>Marinara Sauce on hand. Other than that, not so much. I prefer paper
>towel half sheets, brand doesn't matter - I bought a store brand last
>time and had no complaints. I usually buy expensive coffee, but the
>grocery store had 11oz bags on sale for $5, so I tried their African
>blend and it was fine. I definitely got my $5 worth.


If Costco has a brand I will try it and probably stick with it. When
I want to get really thin plastic storage bags (gallon and sandwich,
twist tie) I get Great Value from Walmart. Walmart's bags are just a
smidge bigger and particularly the sandwich bags, can handle larger,
homemade bread slices vs. sliced store white bread. I used to like
Costco TP a lot, but they've reformulated and now it is bad. It
fuzzes up like crazy and leaves lint everywhere in the bathroom. In
addition, they never thought that expanding the width of the roll
meant that people like me had TP holders that were not designed to
hold that width. Plus, the paper is flimsy and cross tears or shreds
easily. Too bad, it used to be their biggest and most favorite
seller. I love buying the coffee beans at Costco. Always a bargain.
I get as many bags of the 3 pound San Francisco Bay brand organic
Rainforest Blend as I am allowed on the coupon sale. Generally 4 bags
that will last until the next sale. Ends up being $4.99/pound.
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On 10/8/2016 2:34 PM, William wrote:

> Interesting thing Ed, I never knew I was afflicted with brand loyalty
> until my wife took me into Aldi's grocery store. I did not see one
> brand I was familiar with...and I did not buy anything.
>
> William
>
>


I'm not a big Aldi fan, but some of the stuff is made by the brand name
outfits. I often buy store brand of many items like frozen veggies.
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> I bought Savealot butter last week, it's grade AA, I'll find out tomorrow if I like it.
>
>

It should be fine. I buy Kroger or Wal Mart butter all the
time. Tasty stuff.

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On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 1:36:13 PM UTC-5, BigC300 wrote:
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> Interesting, I never knew I was afflicted with brand loyalty
> until my wife took me into Aldi's grocery store. I did not see one
> brand I was familiar with...and I did not buy anything.
>
> William
>
>

You missed out on some bargains. Your wife needs to go back, leave
you at home, and do her shopping.

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On 10/8/2016 3:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

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> If you want brand loyalty, check out soft drinks, especially colas.
> People tend to be stuck on Coke or Pepsi. It is a strange thing,
> especially in light of the New Coke roll-out. Coke wanted a bigger
> share of the market and developed a product that was more like Pepsi.
> People in blind taste tests preferred the new formula, but when Coke
> started flogging their New Coke people rebelled and said they wanted
> their old Coke back, and it ended up being marketed as Coke Classic. The
> new (old) product ended up with a larger market share than it had before.
>


We had Pepsi and home and I prefer it. I will drink Coke if only that
is available. My preference if I'm having a soda is Dr. Pepper or root
beer.


> Beer drinkers are just as bad. They tend to buy or order only one
> particular brand. From what I have heard from beer drinkers, it is
> usually the one they can drink the most of without barfing or getting
> gassy. I had a friend who had a bar for a while and he sold more
> Labatt's Blue than all other beers combined. I have some favourites,
> but I generally have several types of beer on hand because different
> beers are better suited for some foods than others.


I don't buy a lot of beer. Moosehead or Heineken are typical. I don't
like dark or heavy beers.

The other night we
> went out for supper and I opted for one particular place because they
> have 24 craft beers on tap. I have been known to have several different
> beers rather than ordering the same one over and over. One the last
> occasion I started with a light ale because I was having fish and chips,
> but after that I had a heavier one.
>
>


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On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 07:11:42 +1100, Bruce >
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>In article >, Ed Pawlowski
>says...
>>
>> On 10/8/2016 12:32 PM, wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I only buy Frenchs Ketchup since Heinz did the dirty on Ontario tomato
>> > growers. Whole local industry built around the ketchup factory and
>> > they suddenly pulled out to Mexico mid-season. Thankfully French
>> > decided it was time to have their own ketchup and they opened there
>> > and bought the crop.
>> >

>>
>> You mentioned that before. I wonder what the real story is. Frenches
>> probably did not decide overnight to go into the ketchup business. My
>> guess is some behind the scenes collaboration.
>>
>>
http://tinyurl.com/zxt6s82
>> Its all about money

>
>Yes, it seems a bit silly to think Heinz is evil and French (?) is the
>saviour. They're all only interested in the bottom line.


Maybe but at least it helped the farmers.
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 13:22:08 -0600, graham > wrote:

> On 10/8/2016 8:59 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > I even discovered that "Everyday Essential" wuss sauce tastes
> > every bit as good as L&P. That was a good find.
> >

> I wouldn't dream of buying anything other than L&P!!
> Graham


You have the better formulation though.


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On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:40:50 -0600, Janet B >
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> I love buying the coffee beans at Costco. Always a bargain.
> I get as many bags of the 3 pound San Francisco Bay brand organic
> Rainforest Blend as I am allowed on the coupon sale. Generally 4 bags
> that will last until the next sale. Ends up being $4.99/pound.


It's not worth it to me to buy in bulk like that. Hubby doesn't drink
coffee at all, I don't drink it every day and as you know by this
time, I have no spare freezer space to store it.


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On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 07:11:42 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Ed Pawlowski
>says...
>>
>> On 10/8/2016 12:32 PM, wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I only buy Frenchs Ketchup since Heinz did the dirty on Ontario tomato
>> > growers. Whole local industry built around the ketchup factory and
>> > they suddenly pulled out to Mexico mid-season. Thankfully French
>> > decided it was time to have their own ketchup and they opened there
>> > and bought the crop.
>> >

>>
>> You mentioned that before. I wonder what the real story is. Frenches
>> probably did not decide overnight to go into the ketchup business. My
>> guess is some behind the scenes collaboration.
>>
>>
http://tinyurl.com/zxt6s82
>> Its all about money

>
>Yes, it seems a bit silly to think Heinz is evil and French (?) is the
>saviour. They're all only interested in the bottom line.


Yes, but some are more evil than others. Take Nestle's chairman, who
believes that access to water is not a public right, nor is it a human
right. He's since (publicly) back peddled with PR spin since making
the statement, but that's only because of the reaction it received.


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On 2016-10-08 4:11 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> Its all about money

>
> Yes, it seems a bit silly to think Heinz is evil and French (?) is the
> saviour. They're all only interested in the bottom line.


We had a business that had started up here and thrived for years. Thanks
to the way big business works, it got bought out and ended up in the
hands of a multinational who decided that could shut it down and make
their product elsewhere for less. The whole community had become too
dependent on that one business, from the full time and seasonal staff,
the local farmers and everyone else who they dealt with. They were all
left high and dry. Frenchs came in with the promise to get things up and
running again.

The least we can do is to support the products of the people who
supported us. I did my bit and bought Frenchs ketchup and I think it is
better than that watery stuff that Heinz is selling these days.

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On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:52:42 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:40:50 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>> I love buying the coffee beans at Costco. Always a bargain.
>> I get as many bags of the 3 pound San Francisco Bay brand organic
>> Rainforest Blend as I am allowed on the coupon sale. Generally 4 bags
>> that will last until the next sale. Ends up being $4.99/pound.

>
>It's not worth it to me to buy in bulk like that. Hubby doesn't drink
>coffee at all, I don't drink it every day and as you know by this
>time, I have no spare freezer space to store it.


I don't store the unopened bags in the freezer. They are vacuum
packed. Besides, you are not supposed to store coffee beans in the
freezer. The condensation is not good.
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On 10/8/2016 4:52 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:40:50 -0600, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>> I love buying the coffee beans at Costco. Always a bargain.
>> I get as many bags of the 3 pound San Francisco Bay brand organic
>> Rainforest Blend as I am allowed on the coupon sale. Generally 4 bags
>> that will last until the next sale. Ends up being $4.99/pound.

>
> It's not worth it to me to buy in bulk like that. Hubby doesn't drink
> coffee at all, I don't drink it every day and as you know by this
> time, I have no spare freezer space to store it.
>
>


Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
and brew it for her too.
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On 10/8/2016 6:05 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:

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>
> When did they start putting the tag in the front, not the back? Do they
> all do that now? I have a drawer full of drawers some with tags in
> front, some in back. Now I have to wake up before getting dressed!


No more tags. Hanes has a stamp on the back. I can feel the seam for
the elastic so I can even dress in the dark.
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> On 10/8/2016 4:52 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:40:50 -0600, Janet B >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I love buying the coffee beans at Costco. Always a bargain.
> >> I get as many bags of the 3 pound San Francisco Bay brand organic
> >> Rainforest Blend as I am allowed on the coupon sale. Generally 4 bags
> >> that will last until the next sale. Ends up being $4.99/pound.

> >
> > It's not worth it to me to buy in bulk like that. Hubby doesn't drink
> > coffee at all, I don't drink it every day and as you know by this
> > time, I have no spare freezer space to store it.
> >

> Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
> appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
> is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
> and brew it for her too.


I agree it's important to buy the good stuff, unless you add milk to it.
Milk can make most coffees taste acceptable, even instant motel coffee
or so I just found out.


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> I used to be more brand loyal than I am now. Still a Heinz fan and
> always have a 28oz can of Trader Giotto's (Trader Joe's) Tuscano
> Marinara Sauce on hand. Other than that, not so much. I prefer paper
> towel half sheets, brand doesn't matter - I bought a store brand last
> time and had no complaints. I usually buy expensive coffee, but the
> grocery store had 11oz bags on sale for $5, so I tried their African
> blend and it was fine. I definitely got my $5 worth.


The only things I can think of at the moment that I never switch around are
Dawn dishwashing soap, Viva paper towels, Tide detergent, Clorox bleach,
Guiness beer, and Finlandia Vodka. Most other things don't really matter
much.

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Coca-Cola...the real thing


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> I don't store the unopened bags in the freezer. They are vacuum
> packed. Besides, you are not supposed to store coffee beans in the
> freezer. The condensation is not good.


I don't buy multiple bags of coffee at any one time, so storing them
is never an issue. It's worth a couple of bucks to me to buy it as
fresh as possible. I'm not worried about condensation which is
something I've never seen. The only thing that concerns me is the oil
drying out, which will happen no matter how the coffee stored. AFAIC,
it degrades at a slower rate in the freezer, so that's where I store
mine.


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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
> appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
> is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
> and brew it for her too.


AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
non-starter for me.


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On 2016-10-09 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 21:35:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Depends on how much you like coffee. I don't drink it but my wife
>> appreciates really good coffee so I buy her the best I can find. Cost
>> is not a factor, only that she has the best coffee experience. I grind
>> and brew it for her too.

>
> AFAIC, grinding the beans at home is fine if you use a French press -
> but I prefer drip. I buy pre-ground because I am not going to invest
> hundreds of dollars in some fancy burr grinder that may or may not
> work as well as the industrial grinders, so that part of it is a
> non-starter for me.


You can get a good burr grinder for less than $100. A blade grinder
works great for a drip grind blend. I don't like to use the store
grinders because they are usually tainted with residue from flavoured
coffees that others have ground in them. I can't stand those flavoured
coffees and it doesn't take much to ruin a pound of regular beans.

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