"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:57:30 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 12:25:14 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts
> > > > > > literally.
> > > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source,
> > > > > a pot
> > > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie
> > > > > is a
> > > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is
> > > > > nothing
> > > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot
> > > > > pies, and
> > > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around
> > > > > here
> > > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a
> > > > > lot of
> > > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious
> > > > > > healthy
> > > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria.
> > > > > > Hoo
> > > > > > boy!
> > > > >
> > > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it
> > > > > is so
> > > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two
> > > > > parts
> > > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > > >
> > > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > > > believe
> > > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > > >
> > > > ======================
> > > >
> > > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't
> > > > mention that
> > > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> > >
> > > Some peoples is too inflexible with words.
> >
> > I believe the word you're looking for is "precise", not "inflexible".
>
> In your case, it is indeed "precise." I prefer "inflexible." This is a
> good example of how people see things differently.
>
> >
> > > They're quite adamant in this group but I love the richness and
> > > diversity of language. What I call a "crescent wrench" could be called
> > > a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on the mainland.
> >
> > Funny, I'd never call a crescent wrench a monkey wrench. I might
> > call a pipe wrench a monkey wrench.
> >
> > >It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable spanner" in
> > >garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning in the UK
> > >than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my
> > >time - up with which, I shall not put.
> >
> > No need to argue if one uses the dictionary definition.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> It sounds like you're stating that putting a word in a book changes
> reality and that languages can be locked down and stabilized.

No, it doesn't, and they can't. But using the standard definitions of
a word is the only way that we can communicate. If I started using
the word "fubar" for "pot pie", it would be impossible for you to
know what I'm talking about.

>I disagree but you have your way of seeing things. I can respect that. As I
>have already said, I have a rule against arguing about word definitions.
>Please respect that.

Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. Compilers of dictionaries
find out how words are actually used, and document that. That is why
it's important to use a fairly recent dictionary.

Take my old buddy "decimate". A modern dictionary gives us this:

1. kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of.
"the project would decimate the fragile wetland wilderness"
drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something).
"plant viruses that can decimate yields"
2.
historical
kill one in every ten of (a group of soldiers or others) as a punishment
for the whole group.

An older dictionary would give us only definition #2.

Ah, what the hell. We'll never convince each other. You'll go through
life writing imprecisely, and I'll always adhere to the rules.

I've been a proofreader, a copy editor, and now I'm a programmer.


Cindy Hamilton

==================

Cindy, some words and descriptions here are very different to what we use
but I have never been so rude as to complain about them. I try to
understand and will go along with the consensus but I will not be sneered at
and put down just because I commented on what we call something.

Please try to be as accommodating as I have tried to be in all these years
!!! It is good manners if nothing else.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:07:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:57:30 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 12:25:14 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts literally.
> > > > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives them
> > > > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a pot
> > > > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is a
> > > > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is nothing
> > > > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies, and
> > > > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around here
> > > > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot of
> > > > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria. Hoo
> > > > > > > boy!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is so
> > > > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't believe
> > > > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > > > >
> > > > > ======================
> > > > >
> > > > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't mention that
> > > > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> > > >
> > > > Some peoples is too inflexible with words.
> > >
> > > I believe the word you're looking for is "precise", not "inflexible".
> >
> > In your case, it is indeed "precise." I prefer "inflexible." This is a good example of how people see things differently.
> >
> > >
> > > > They're quite adamant in this group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on the mainland.
> > >
> > > Funny, I'd never call a crescent wrench a monkey wrench. I might
> > > call a pipe wrench a monkey wrench.
> > >
> > > >It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning in the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my time - up with which, I shall not put.
> > >
> > > No need to argue if one uses the dictionary definition.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > It sounds like you're stating that putting a word in a book changes reality and that languages can be locked down and stabilized.
>
> No, it doesn't, and they can't. But using the standard definitions of
> a word is the only way that we can communicate. If I started using
> the word "fubar" for "pot pie", it would be impossible for you to
> know what I'm talking about.
>
> >I disagree but you have your way of seeing things. I can respect that. As I have already said, I have a rule against arguing about word definitions.. Please respect that.
>
> Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. Compilers of dictionaries
> find out how words are actually used, and document that. That is why
> it's important to use a fairly recent dictionary.
>
> Take my old buddy "decimate". A modern dictionary gives us this:
>
> 1. kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of.
> "the project would decimate the fragile wetland wilderness"
> drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something).
> "plant viruses that can decimate yields"
> 2.
> historical
> kill one in every ten of (a group of soldiers or others) as a punishment for the whole group.
>
> An older dictionary would give us only definition #2.
>
> Ah, what the hell. We'll never convince each other. You'll go through
> life writing imprecisely, and I'll always adhere to the rules.
>
> I've been a proofreader, a copy editor, and now I'm a programmer.
>
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I'm still not impressed with your credentials. Sorry.

Feel free to stick to the rules. What you appear to have missed is that the English language has pretty much exploded and there's a whole world of words you are not aware of. This trend is going to continue as English entrenches itself into China and other Asian countries.

Paradoxically the richness of life comes from the our ability to use and manipulate words and symbols. Without this ability we'd be like the animals. Much of art stems from the ambiguity of words and symbols and their ability to have different levels of meanings.

If I'm putting out a recipe for bata mochi, I have to be precise because most people are not familiar with the dish. If I assume the person is familiar with the dish, I can be a little vague with the description - this is done our of respect for the message receiver's knowledge. To do otherwise would be condescending and patronizing.

If I say that father-in-law was a programmer of low level, this could mean a couple of things. Some people can only understand this statement on one level but it's my intention and hope that they do not.

If you see the world in only the most discrete and concrete of terms - that's fine. I wouldn't expect a good computer programmer to see otherwise. I see the world as being a series of things connected to each other. The way I write reflects that. It allows me to see the future. You're pretty much stuck in the past and present.

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:24:00 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts literally..
> > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives them
> > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > never become one of those people.
> > >
> > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a pot
> > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is a
> > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is nothing
> > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > >
> > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies, and
> > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around here
> > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot of
> > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > >
> > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria. Hoo
> > > > boy!
> > >
> > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is so
> > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> >
> > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > believe
> > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> >
> > ======================
> >
> > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't mention
> > that
> > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on the
> mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning in
> the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my
> time - up with which, I shall not put.
>
> ==================
>
> <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it ....
> too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have never
> moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would be if
> we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> ways??? ;p
>
> I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all I
> said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
>
> I can't say I care much)))
>
> Anyway, WE had English first .................
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no yank has any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.

My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.. Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:24:00 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts literally.
> > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives
> > > > them
> > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > never become one of those people.
> > >
> > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a
> > > pot
> > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is a
> > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is nothing
> > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > >
> > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies,
> > > and
> > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around
> > > here
> > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot of
> > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > >
> > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria. Hoo
> > > > boy!
> > >
> > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is
> > > so
> > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> >
> > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > believe
> > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> >
> > ======================
> >
> > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't mention
> > that
> > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on
> the
> mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning
> in
> the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my
> time - up with which, I shall not put.
>
> ==================
>
> <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it
> ...
> too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have
> never
> moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would be
> if
> we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> ways??? ;p
>
> I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all I
> said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
>
> I can't say I care much)))
>
> Anyway, WE had English first .................
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no yank has
any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.

My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.
Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

========

Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:24:00 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts literally.
> > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives
> > > > > them
> > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > >
> > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a
> > > > pot
> > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is a
> > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is nothing
> > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies,
> > > > and
> > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around
> > > > here
> > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot of
> > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > >
> > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria. Hoo
> > > > > boy!
> > > >
> > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is
> > > > so
> > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > >
> > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > > believe
> > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > >
> > > ======================
> > >
> > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't mention
> > > that
> > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> > group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> > "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on
> > the
> > mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> > spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning
> > in
> > the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my
> > time - up with which, I shall not put.
> >
> > ==================
> >
> > <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it
> > ...
> > too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have
> > never
> > moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would be
> > if
> > we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> > ways??? ;p
> >
> > I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all I
> > said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> > pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
> >
> > I can't say I care much)))
> >
> > Anyway, WE had English first .................
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no yank has
> any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
> just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
>
> My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.
> Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>
> ========
>
> Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their general direction!

In article >, dsi1
says...
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no
> > yank has
> > any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> > English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
> > just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
> >
> > My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.
> > Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> > that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> >
> > ========
> >
> > Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
> >
> Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their
> general direction!

That'll teach them suggesting you were wrong about something. They'll be
blinded by smoke screens and they'll be farted upon because you're never
wrong. Never!

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:16:28 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > The pot pie originally had no bottom crust. The frozen food industry
> > has accustomed people to having a two-crust pot pie. I'm willing to
> > go along with calling a two-crust pie a pot pie, since language evolves*,
> > but a one-crust pot pie is still a pot pie.
>
> I'll occasionally buy a Banquet pot pie. The turkey ones are good. They
> have top and bottom crust but my only problem with that is the amount of
> filling. They would be much better with more filling. It's just a bit
> too much crust with what they sell now.
>
>
Marie Callender's pot pies have a top and bottom crust, too.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:26:03 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, dsi1
>says...
>>
>> Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their
>> general direction!
>
>That'll teach them suggesting you were wrong about something. They'll be
>blinded by smoke screens and they'll be farted upon because you're never
>wrong. Never!

I'll bet he didn't last long in his high school debating team.
Or maybe they only debated outdoors and upwind of ds1.

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:26:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, dsi1
> says...
> >
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no
> > > yank has
> > > any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> > > English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
> > > just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
> > >
> > > My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.
> > > Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> > > that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> > >
> > > ========
> > >
> > > Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
> > >
> > Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their
> > general direction!
>
> That'll teach them suggesting you were wrong about something. They'll be
> blinded by smoke screens and they'll be farted upon because you're never
> wrong. Never!

Ah you pop out of the woodwork sir. I call your bluff once again and then fart in your tea! My suggestion is that you never play poker with anybody whose IQ is equal to or above 93. Hee hee.

In article >, dsi1
says...
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:26:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, dsi1
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no
> > > > yank has
> > > > any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> > > > English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
> > > > just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
> > > >
> > > > My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.
> > > > Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> > > > that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> > > >
> > > > ========
> > > >
> > > > Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
> > > >
> > > Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their
> > > general direction!
> >
> > That'll teach them suggesting you were wrong about something. They'll be
> > blinded by smoke screens and they'll be farted upon because you're never
> > wrong. Never!
>
> Ah you pop out of the woodwork sir. I call your bluff once again and then fart in your tea! My suggestion is that you never play poker with anybody whose IQ is equal to or above 93. Hee hee.

That'll teach me too. Never!

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:03:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:26:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >, dsi1
>> says...
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > > The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no
>> > > yank has
>> > > any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
>> > > English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
>> > > just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
>> > >
>> > > My position is that everything a person types out says something about them.
>> > > Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
>> > > that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>> > >
>> > > ========
>> > >
>> > > Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
>> > >
>> > Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their
>> > general direction!
>>
>> That'll teach them suggesting you were wrong about something. They'll be
>> blinded by smoke screens and they'll be farted upon because you're never
>> wrong. Never!
>
>Ah you pop out of the woodwork sir. I call your bluff once again and then fart in your tea! My suggestion is that you never play poker with anybody whose IQ is equal to or above 93. Hee hee.

Now you've just set yourself up to get upset within the next few
replies you get.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> It sounds like you're stating that putting a word in a book changes reality and that languages can be locked down and stabilized. I disagree but you have your way of seeing things. I can respect that. As I have already said, I have a rule against arguing about word definitions. Please respect that.

Most arguments begin with a misunderstanding and standard word
meanings help alleviate that. Would you understand a direction that
said: "Put the house in the rug and swim it for movie hearts"?


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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:04:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> You're pretty much stuck in the past and present.
>
As someone who was a proof reader and copy editor should be.
Please ask your DD what "on fleek" means. What Google told me doesn't
make sense.


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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:15:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > The pot pie originally had no bottom crust. The frozen food industry
> > has accustomed people to having a two-crust pot pie. I'm willing to
> > go along with calling a two-crust pie a pot pie, since language evolves*,
> > but a one-crust pot pie is still a pot pie.
>
> I'll occasionally buy a Banquet pot pie. The turkey ones are good. They
> have top and bottom crust but my only problem with that is the amount of
> filling. They would be much better with more filling. It's just a bit
> too much crust with what they sell now.

Bottom crust in a commercial pot pie is just another cheap filler.


--
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:43:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:16:28 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > The pot pie originally had no bottom crust. The frozen food industry
> > > has accustomed people to having a two-crust pot pie. I'm willing to
> > > go along with calling a two-crust pie a pot pie, since language evolves*,
> > > but a one-crust pot pie is still a pot pie.
> >
> > I'll occasionally buy a Banquet pot pie. The turkey ones are good. They
> > have top and bottom crust but my only problem with that is the amount of
> > filling. They would be much better with more filling. It's just a bit
> > too much crust with what they sell now.
> >
> >
> Marie Callender's pot pies have a top and bottom crust, too.

It's just another commercial product. Did your grandmother's pot pie
have two crusts? I remember my grandmother spoke about meat pies as a
main dish when she was growing up, but she never called them pot pies.
Pot pies are a stew-like filling (often constructed from leftovers),
usually in a deep dish, and covered with a shortcrust pastry instead
of mashed potato or biscuits.


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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> *I'm coming to terms with "decimate" being a synonym for "destroy" rather
> than "kill one in ten". When some talking head says "The town was
> decimated" my natural inclination is to say "Well, 90% of the town is
> fine."

I hear decimate and think 90% destroyed.


--
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In article >, sf says...
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > *I'm coming to terms with "decimate" being a synonym for "destroy" rather
> > than "kill one in ten". When some talking head says "The town was
> > decimated" my natural inclination is to say "Well, 90% of the town is
> > fine."
>
> I hear decimate and think 90% destroyed.

Me too.

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 1:02:49 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It sounds like you're stating that putting a word in a book changes reality and that languages can be locked down and stabilized. I disagree but you have your way of seeing things. I can respect that. As I have already said, I have a rule against arguing about word definitions. Please respect that.
>
> Most arguments begin with a misunderstanding and standard word
> meanings help alleviate that. Would you understand a direction that
> said: "Put the house in the rug and swim it for movie hearts"?
>
>
> --
> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

One has to be able to go beyond words most times because words have the power to deceive and obfuscate. Being well-versed in words mostly allows someone to be a better liar. For these people, there's what they say, and what they really mean, and what they really want. Mostly, what a lot of people say is the least important of the three.

On 2016-10-11 7:21 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> *I'm coming to terms with "decimate" being a synonym for "destroy" rather
>> than "kill one in ten". When some talking head says "The town was
>> decimated" my natural inclination is to say "Well, 90% of the town is
>> fine."
>
> I hear decimate and think 90% destroyed.
>
>

You weren't around in Roman times like Cindy was ;-)

On 10/11/2016 5:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-10-11 7:21 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> *I'm coming to terms with "decimate" being a synonym for "destroy"
>>> rather
>>> than "kill one in ten". When some talking head says "The town was
>>> decimated" my natural inclination is to say "Well, 90% of the town is
>>> fine."
>>
>> I hear decimate and think 90% destroyed.
>>
>>
>
> You weren't around in Roman times like Cindy was ;-)
It happened to French units during WW1. AIUI.

On 10/11/2016 5:21 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:26:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> *I'm coming to terms with "decimate" being a synonym for "destroy" rather
>> than "kill one in ten". When some talking head says "The town was
>> decimated" my natural inclination is to say "Well, 90% of the town is
>> fine."
>
> I hear decimate and think 90% destroyed.
>
>
That's fine as long as the word "literally" is not appended as it so
often is.

In article >,
dsi1 > wrote:

> If I say that father-in-law was a programmer of low level, this could mean a
> couple of things. Some people can only understand this statement on one level
> but it's my intention and hope that they do not.

Assembly.

leo

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> I've been a proofreader, a copy editor, and now I'm a programmer.

Which language(s)? I used to muck about with a few in the nineties.

leo

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:24:00 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts
> > > > > literally.
> > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives
> > > > > them
> > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > >
> > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a
> > > > pot
> > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is
> > > > a
> > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is
> > > > nothing
> > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies,
> > > > and
> > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around
> > > > here
> > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot
> > > > of
> > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > >
> > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria.
> > > > > Hoo
> > > > > boy!
> > > >
> > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is
> > > > so
> > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > >
> > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > > believe
> > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > >
> > > ======================
> > >
> > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't
> > > mention
> > > that
> > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> > group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> > "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on
> > the
> > mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> > spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning
> > in
> > the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of
> > my
> > time - up with which, I shall not put.
> >
> > ==================
> >
> > <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it
> > ...
> > too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have
> > never
> > moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would
> > be
> > if
> > we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> > ways??? ;p
> >
> > I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all
> > I
> > said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> > pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
> >
> > I can't say I care much)))
> >
> > Anyway, WE had English first .................
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no yank has
> any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
> just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
>
> My position is that everything a person types out says something about
> them.
> Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>
> ========
>
> Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their general
direction!

==============

Would you be a Python fan by any chance?? <g>


--
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On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 3:24:00 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts literally.
> > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives them
> > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > never become one of those people.
> > >
> > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a pot
> > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is a
> > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is nothing
> > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > >
> > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies, and
> > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around here
> > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot of
> > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > >
> > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria. Hoo
> > > > boy!
> > >
> > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is so
> > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> >
> > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > believe
> > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> >
> > ======================
> >
> > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't mention
> > that
> > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on the
> mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning in
> the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my
> time - up with which, I shall not put.
>
> ==================
>
> <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it ...
> too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have never
> moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would be if
> we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> ways??? ;p
>
> I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all I
> said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
>
> I can't say I care much)))
>
> Anyway, WE had English first .................
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

For the present circumstance, I have no objection to calling a thing
a pot pie, whether it has one or two crusts. I am, in fact, following
common usage in this. It's dsi1 who insists that a pot pie have
two crusts.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 4:04:40 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> If you see the world in only the most discrete and concrete of terms - that's fine. I wouldn't expect a good computer programmer to see otherwise. I see the world as being a series of things connected to each other. The way I write reflects that. It allows me to see the future. You're pretty much stuck in the past and present.

Well, the present is where I keep my stuff. That's pretty much where
I have to live.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 7:37:38 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> One has to be able to go beyond words most times because words have the power to deceive and obfuscate. Being well-versed in words mostly allows someone to be a better liar. For these people, there's what they say, and what they really mean, and what they really want. Mostly, what a lot of people say is the least important of the three.

That certainly is the crux of this kerfuffle. You told a joke, and because
I can't see your face, read your body language, or hear the tone of your
voice, I took it literally.

More "tee hee", please.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:22:30 PM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >,
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> > I've been a proofreader, a copy editor, and now I'm a programmer.
>
> Which language(s)? I used to muck about with a few in the nineties.

C. Either C-90 or K&R (I am a dinosaur). Oh, sure, I use C-99 compilers,
but I can't be having with their newfangled features.

Cindy Hamlton

sf wrote:
>
> "
> > Marie Callender's pot pies have a top and bottom crust, too.
>
> It's just another commercial product. Did your grandmother's pot pie
> have two crusts?

Looking it up, the official definition of a pot pie is only a top crust.
That said, many commercial ones have a bottom crust too.

Looking at today's sale ads for the week, my regular store is selling
16oz Marie Callender pot pies for only $1.88 each and they are 16oz
pies, not the Banquet pies that are only about 80z for $1.00.

Sounds like a better deal. I plan to buy one or two tomorrow morning and
try them out. With that 8oz more filling, it sounds just like what I
would prefer.

Or I could make my own. Lazy me. heheh

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:19:21 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
> > Marie Callender's pot pies have a top and bottom crust, too.
>
> It's just another commercial product. Did your grandmother's pot pie
> have two crusts? I remember my grandmother spoke about meat pies as a
> main dish when she was growing up, but she never called them pot pies.
> Pot pies are a stew-like filling (often constructed from leftovers),
> usually in a deep dish, and covered with a shortcrust pastry instead
> of mashed potato or biscuits.
>
>
If my grandmother ever made a pot pie I never knew it nor did I
taste one if she had. I never heard my mother say she did and
my mother never made one either.

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 8:00:30 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Looking at today's sale ads for the week, my regular store is selling
> 16oz Marie Callender pot pies for only $1.88 each and they are 16oz
> pies, not the Banquet pies that are only about 80z for $1.00.
>
> Sounds like a better deal. I plan to buy one or two tomorrow morning and
> try them out. With that 8oz more filling, it sounds just like what I
> would prefer.
>
> Or I could make my own. Lazy me. heheh
>
>
Gary, my Kroger has them advertised as well. I just happen
to have some $1 off 3 of these that were on the outside of
the boxes of some I bought a few weeks ago. Check the boxes
when you buy yours to see if they also have the coupons.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

sf wrote:
>
> "
> > Marie Callender's pot pies have a top and bottom crust, too.
>
> It's just another commercial product. Did your grandmother's pot pie
> have two crusts?

Looking it up, the official definition of a pot pie is only a top crust.
That said, many commercial ones have a bottom crust too.

Looking at today's sale ads for the week, my regular store is selling
16oz Marie Callender pot pies for only $1.88 each and they are 16oz
pies, not the Banquet pies that are only about 80z for $1.00.

Sounds like a better deal. I plan to buy one or two tomorrow morning and
try them out. With that 8oz more filling, it sounds just like what I
would prefer.

Or I could make my own. Lazy me. heheh

========

At the weekend when you are not working? You might enjoy it and you can make
it exactly to your own taste



--
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On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:35:09 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:24:00 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts
> > > > > > literally.
> > > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a
> > > > > pot
> > > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is
> > > > > a
> > > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is
> > > > > nothing
> > > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies,
> > > > > and
> > > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around
> > > > > here
> > > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot
> > > > > of
> > > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria.
> > > > > > Hoo
> > > > > > boy!
> > > > >
> > > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is
> > > > > so
> > > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > > >
> > > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > > > believe
> > > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > > >
> > > > ======================
> > > >
> > > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't
> > > > mention
> > > > that
> > > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> > >
> > > Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> > > group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> > > "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on
> > > the
> > > mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> > > spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning
> > > in
> > > the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of
> > > my
> > > time - up with which, I shall not put.
> > >
> > > ==================
> > >
> > > <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it
> > > ...
> > > too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have
> > > never
> > > moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would
> > > be
> > > if
> > > we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> > > ways??? ;p
> > >
> > > I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all
> > > I
> > > said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> > > pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
> > >
> > > I can't say I care much)))
> > >
> > > Anyway, WE had English first .................
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no yank has
> > any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> > English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would do
> > just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
> >
> > My position is that everything a person types out says something about
> > them.
> > Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> > that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> >
> > ========
> >
> > Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their general
> direction!
>
> ==============
>
> Would you be a Python fan by any chance?? <g>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

This would be true. It's not easy for us yanks. We can barely understand what the heck you Brits are saying.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Sounds like a better deal. I plan to buy one or two tomorrow morning and
> try them out. With that 8oz more filling, it sounds just like what I
> would prefer.
>
> Or I could make my own. Lazy me. heheh
>
> ========
>
> At the weekend when you are not working?

This area got hit bad enough that no one cares about painting their
house this week. Looks like I'll be off until next Tuesday and even that
is weather permitting. I hate my life (occasionally). heheh

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:35:09 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:24:00 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts
> > > > > > literally.
> > > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source,
> > > > > a
> > > > > pot
> > > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie
> > > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is
> > > > > nothing
> > > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot
> > > > > pies,
> > > > > and
> > > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around
> > > > > here
> > > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > of
> > > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious
> > > > > > healthy
> > > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria.
> > > > > > Hoo
> > > > > > boy!
> > > > >
> > > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it
> > > > > is
> > > > > so
> > > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two
> > > > > parts
> > > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > > >
> > > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > > > believe
> > > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > > >
> > > > ======================
> > > >
> > > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't
> > > > mention
> > > > that
> > > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> > >
> > > Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in
> > > this
> > > group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> > > "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot
> > > on
> > > the
> > > mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> > > spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different
> > > meaning
> > > in
> > > the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of
> > > my
> > > time - up with which, I shall not put.
> > >
> > > ==================
> > >
> > > <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like
> > > it
> > > ...
> > > too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have
> > > never
> > > moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would
> > > be
> > > if
> > > we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by
> > > OUR
> > > ways??? ;p
> > >
> > > I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember,
> > > all
> > > I
> > > said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call
> > > them
> > > pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
> > >
> > > I can't say I care much)))
> > >
> > > Anyway, WE had English first .................
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > The UK is the motherland of our language. Thank you! As such, no yank
> > has
> > any right to question your use of your words. Do we correct our mother's
> > English? Certainly not! OTOH, my guess is that some posters here would
> > do
> > just that. They are just maladjusted knuckleheads.
> >
> > My position is that everything a person types out says something about
> > them.
> > Therefore, any idiosyncrasies in a post should never be corrected. Well
> > that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> >
> > ========
> >
> > Amen to that but you do know you will get stick for saying so .. <g>
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Yes, let them try to stick me or bring me down. I fart in their general
> direction!
>
> ==============
>
> Would you be a Python fan by any chance?? <g>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

This would be true. It's not easy for us yanks. We can barely understand
what the heck you Brits are saying.

============

There could be a method in our madness ... ;p



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 12:32:22 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 3:24:00 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:58:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2016-10-10 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You will have some difficulty if you keep taking my posts literally.
> > > > > I know the difference between pie crust and dumplings. My point is
> > > > > that dumplings go only on the top but a pie should have a top and
> > > > > bottom crust. Some people feel that calling it a "pot pie" gives them
> > > > > license to do a job halfway. I suppose that it does but I hope I
> > > > > never become one of those people.
> > > >
> > > > I made the mistake of Googling pot pie. According to that source, a pot
> > > > pie is a type of knish with a top crust. An Pennsylvania pot pie is a
> > > > stew with no crust at all. I had to look up knish, and that is nothing
> > > > like any kind of pot pie I have ever had.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, my mother used to occasionally buy frozen (Swanson?) pot pies, and
> > > > they always had a top and bottom crust. There were bakeries around here
> > > > that make meat pies, with top and bottom crust. My wife makes a lot of
> > > > excellent meat pies, but she makes them with just a top crust.
> > > >
> > > > > I did not realize that this was some kind of sanctimonious healthy
> > > > > livin' food group and that I was to be judged by that criteria. Hoo
> > > > > boy!
> > > >
> > > > I like pie pastry, but I have had to learn to avoid it because it is so
> > > > high in carbs and fat. It really. Pie pastry is basically two parts
> > > > flour (high carb) and one part shortening.... fat.
> > >
> > > I'm eating such a concoction as I type this. It's good eats! I don't
> > > believe
> > > that I'll be wanting to live that much longer.
> > >
> > > ======================
> > >
> > > Things are called differently in different places. Just don't mention
> > > that
> > > here or you will get a nasty mouthful.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > Some peoples is too inflexible with words. They're quite adamant in this
> > group but I love the richness and diversity of language. What I call a
> > "crescent wrench" could be called a "monkey wrench" by some old coot on the
> > mainland. It might be called a "gas grip" or my favorite, "adjustable
> > spanner" in garages in the UK. "Garage" has a somewhat different meaning in
> > the UK than here. Arguing about the definitions of words is a waste of my
> > time - up with which, I shall not put.
> >
> > ==================
> >
> > <g> We all have our own way of defining things. If some don't like it ...
> > too bad! I have seen a lot of different descriptions here and I have never
> > moaned about it. Vive la difference! What a bland old world it would be if
> > we all had to conform. Anyway, who says they ought not to conform by OUR
> > ways??? ;p
> >
> > I am still mystified as to what I did wrong. So far as I remember, all I
> > said that had learned the term 'pot pie' here and that we just call them
> > pies!!! Oh well, c'est la vie err innit?
> >
> > I can't say I care much)))
> >
> > Anyway, WE had English first .................
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> For the present circumstance, I have no objection to calling a thing
> a pot pie, whether it has one or two crusts. I am, in fact, following
> common usage in this. It's dsi1 who insists that a pot pie have
> two crusts.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Please get your facts straight. I never said that a pot pie has to have two crusts. I've never said that a pot pie has to be anything.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Sounds like a better deal. I plan to buy one or two tomorrow morning and
> try them out. With that 8oz more filling, it sounds just like what I
> would prefer.
>
> Or I could make my own. Lazy me. heheh
>
> ========
>
> At the weekend when you are not working?

This area got hit bad enough that no one cares about painting their
house this week. Looks like I'll be off until next Tuesday and even that
is weather permitting. I hate my life (occasionally). heheh

==============

So! Pie making time



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

>
> Ophelia wrote:
> > Would you be a Python fan by any chance?? <g>

Are you talking about Monty Python? I liked some of their stuff but
found much pretty dry humor. I've never been a huge fan of them. I
liked better Benny Hill, Mr.Bean and all the very amazing music groups
that have emerged from the UK.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> Please get your facts straight. I never said that a pot pie has to have two crusts. I've never said that a pot pie has to be anything.

Back around 1975, I made an *authentic* pot pie once.
I put a frozen Banquet pot pie in the oven.
After about 15 minutes, I took it out.
I cut a plug out of the semi-thawed middle.
I inserted a good amount of pot (the weed,ya know)
Then I put the plug back in and cooked the pie to done.

Once cooked, I stirred it up and ate my dinner.
Then I went to band practice. It really didn't affect
me much but maybe a little bit. It was worth a try, anyway

Good ol days, pre-internet times. ;-D

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" wrote:
> > Sounds like a better deal. I plan to buy one or two tomorrow morning and
> > try them out. With that 8oz more filling, it sounds just like what I
> > would prefer.
> >
> > Or I could make my own. Lazy me. heheh
> >
> > ========
> >
> > At the weekend when you are not working?
>
> This area got hit bad enough that no one cares about painting their
> house this week. Looks like I'll be off until next Tuesday and even that
> is weather permitting. I hate my life (occasionally). heheh
>
> ==============
>
> So! Pie making time

Yeah, no kidding but sadly I'm on a fairly strick diet. I'll be
skipping the traditional usain Thankgiving meal for the same reason.