Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.

Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
areas (also cox cable outages).

Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.

--

On 10/9/2016 7:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>
> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
> areas (also cox cable outages).
>
> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>


Did she leave Dataw?

On 10/9/2016 9:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>
> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
> areas (also cox cable outages).
>
> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>

Jill did not leave Dataw. At least, her last message on rpca said that
she planned to remain in her house with Buffy. She felt the government
was overreacting. She pointed out some of the problems people fact
during an evacuation.

MaryL

Taxed and Spent wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 10/9/2016 7:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> > trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow
> > still.
> >
> > Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
> > areas (also cox cable outages).
> >
> > Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into
> > Dataw.
> >
>
>
> Did she leave Dataw?

I don't know.

--

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 22:00:31 -0500, MaryL >
wrote:

>On 10/9/2016 9:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
>> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>>
>> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
>> areas (also cox cable outages).
>>
>> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>>
>
>Jill did not leave Dataw. At least, her last message on rpca said that
>she planned to remain in her house with Buffy. She felt the government
>was overreacting. She pointed out some of the problems people fact
>during an evacuation.
>
>MaryL

I've seen photos of Jill's home and other homes in her community. The
homes there are very well built and hers is one of the more solidly
built homes. So long as she has food, plenty of wine, and books to
read she will be fine. With no electric she won't be able to cook but
there are plenty of foods that can be eaten straight from the can. I
don't remember seeing pictures of any large trees near her house so
she shouldn't suffer any damage. If she has an LED lantern and
batteries she'll have plenty of light. In the past I suggested this
for power failures, I have this and it works great, ten cranks and the
radio plays for 15 minutes:
https://www.amazon.com/Eton-NFR160WX...dio+hand+crank

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 22:00:31 -0500, MaryL >
> wrote:
>
> > On 10/9/2016 9:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> >> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow
> still.
> > >
> >> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage
> impacted >> areas (also cox cable outages).
> > >
> >> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into
> Dataw.
> > >
> >
> > Jill did not leave Dataw. At least, her last message on rpca said
> > that she planned to remain in her house with Buffy. She felt the
> > government was overreacting. She pointed out some of the problems
> > people fact during an evacuation.
> >
> > MaryL
>
> I've seen photos of Jill's home and other homes in her community. The
> homes there are very well built and hers is one of the more solidly
> built homes. So long as she has food, plenty of wine, and books to
> read she will be fine. With no electric she won't be able to cook but
> there are plenty of foods that can be eaten straight from the can. I
> don't remember seeing pictures of any large trees near her house so
> she shouldn't suffer any damage. If she has an LED lantern and
> batteries she'll have plenty of light. In the past I suggested this
> for power failures, I have this and it works great, ten cranks and the
> radio plays for 15 minutes:
> https://www.amazon.com/Eton-NFR160WX...ered-Flashligh
> t/dp/B001QTXKB0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1476105268&sr=8-7&keywords=eton
> +radio+hand+crank

I have a very similar unit, plus 4 hand crank flashlights (got tired of
stocking batteries for occasional needs), 2 larger lanterns with the
big square batteries (waterproof, can out out in the rain) and several
small LED types that through a LOT of light for 2-4 AA batteries
depending on unit.

For ones that take batteries, Check out the Coleman Micropacker lantern
(3 AA batteries and comes with them). Good amount of light and easy to
put wherever you need. I have 3 of them now. I have another one that
takes only 4 AA batteries, runs roughly 72 hours on high and can light
my livingroom and kitchen (neither are small and they are open to one
another). Call it 10 nights if left on all night at high power, 20 or
more days at trickle feed as a nightlight.

The hand crank simple flashlights reside 1 each per car, and 2 in the
house.

--

On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 11:41:31 AM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 22:00:31 -0500, MaryL >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/9/2016 9:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > >> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> > >> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow
> > still.
> > > >
> > >> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage
> > impacted >> areas (also cox cable outages).
> > > >
> > >> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into
> > Dataw.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jill did not leave Dataw. At least, her last message on rpca said
> > > that she planned to remain in her house with Buffy. She felt the
> > > government was overreacting. She pointed out some of the problems
> > > people fact during an evacuation.
> > >
> > > MaryL
> >
> > I've seen photos of Jill's home and other homes in her community. The
> > homes there are very well built and hers is one of the more solidly
> > built homes. So long as she has food, plenty of wine, and books to
> > read she will be fine. With no electric she won't be able to cook but
> > there are plenty of foods that can be eaten straight from the can. I
> > don't remember seeing pictures of any large trees near her house so
> > she shouldn't suffer any damage. If she has an LED lantern and
> > batteries she'll have plenty of light. In the past I suggested this
> > for power failures, I have this and it works great, ten cranks and the
> > radio plays for 15 minutes:
> > https://www.amazon.com/Eton-NFR160WX...ered-Flashligh
> > t/dp/B001QTXKB0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1476105268&sr=8-7&keywords=eton
> > +radio+hand+crank
>
> I have a very similar unit, plus 4 hand crank flashlights (got tired of
> stocking batteries for occasional needs), 2 larger lanterns with the
> big square batteries (waterproof, can out out in the rain) and several
> small LED types that through a LOT of light for 2-4 AA batteries
> depending on unit.
>
> For ones that take batteries, Check out the Coleman Micropacker lantern
> (3 AA batteries and comes with them). Good amount of light and easy to
> put wherever you need. I have 3 of them now. I have another one that
> takes only 4 AA batteries, runs roughly 72 hours on high and can light
> my livingroom and kitchen (neither are small and they are open to one
> another). Call it 10 nights if left on all night at high power, 20 or
> more days at trickle feed as a nightlight.
>
> The hand crank simple flashlights reside 1 each per car, and 2 in the
> house.
>
> --

Now I understand all the concrete block homes I saw in Boca.

On 10/12/2016 8:43 PM, wrote:


>>
>> --
>
> Now I understand all the concrete block homes I saw in Boca.
>


If I was building a new house it would be with ICFs (Insulating
Concrete Forms) It would be well insulated and can withstand even
tornadoes with minimal damage. You may lose siding, but the structure
will still be standing.

On 10/9/2016 10:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>
> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
> areas (also cox cable outages).
>
> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>
For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
cat.

Jill

On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 22:00:31 -0500, MaryL >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/9/2016 9:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
>>>> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow
>> still.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage
>> impacted >> areas (also cox cable outages).
>>>>
>>>> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into
>> Dataw.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Jill did not leave Dataw. At least, her last message on rpca said
>>> that she planned to remain in her house with Buffy. She felt the
>>> government was overreacting. She pointed out some of the problems
>>> people fact during an evacuation.
>>>
>>> MaryL
>>
>> I've seen photos of Jill's home and other homes in her community. The
>> homes there are very well built and hers is one of the more solidly
>> built homes. So long as she has food, plenty of wine, and books to
>> read she will be fine. With no electric she won't be able to cook but
>> there are plenty of foods that can be eaten straight from the can. I
>> don't remember seeing pictures of any large trees near her house so
>> she shouldn't suffer any damage. If she has an LED lantern and
>> batteries she'll have plenty of light. In the past I suggested this
>> for power failures, I have this and it works great, ten cranks and the
>> radio plays for 15 minutes:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Eton-NFR160WX...ered-Flashligh
>> t/dp/B001QTXKB0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1476105268&sr=8-7&keywords=eton
>> +radio+hand+crank
>
> I have a very similar unit, plus 4 hand crank flashlights (got tired of
> stocking batteries for occasional needs), 2 larger lanterns with the
> big square batteries (waterproof, can out out in the rain) and several
> small LED types that through a LOT of light for 2-4 AA batteries
> depending on unit.
>
> For ones that take batteries, Check out the Coleman Micropacker lantern
> (3 AA batteries and comes with them). Good amount of light and easy to
> put wherever you need. I have 3 of them now. I have another one that
> takes only 4 AA batteries, runs roughly 72 hours on high and can light
> my livingroom and kitchen (neither are small and they are open to one
> another). Call it 10 nights if left on all night at high power, 20 or
> more days at trickle feed as a nightlight.
>
> The hand crank simple flashlights reside 1 each per car, and 2 in the
> house.
>
Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good light.
Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind that take
oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got tons of
those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used the stupid
Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could find her litter
box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by a hurricane lamp.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 10/9/2016 10:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
> > trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
> >
> > Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
> > areas (also cox cable outages).
> >
> > Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
> >
> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
> cat.

You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.

On 10/15/2016 6:22 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 10/9/2016 10:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
>>> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>>>
>>> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
>>> areas (also cox cable outages).
>>>
>>> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>>>
>> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>> cat.
>
> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>


This newsgroup is already catty enough!

Gary wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
> > cat.
>
> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.

BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg

On 10/15/2016 9:29 AM, Gary wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>>> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>>> cat.
>>
>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>
> BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
>

That's cute! Buffy shows no interest in my computer. She does like to
snooze on my chair when I'm not sitting on it. Oh, sometimes she sits
on my lap. My desk has a roll-out keyboard tray and she likes to
push it away from me. Don't play with that stupid computer, pay
attention to me!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 10/15/2016 9:29 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
> >>> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
> >>> cat.
> >>
> >> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
> >> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
> >
> > BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
> > http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
> >
>
> That's cute! Buffy shows no interest in my computer. She does like to
> snooze on my chair when I'm not sitting on it. Oh, sometimes she sits
> on my lap. My desk has a roll-out keyboard tray and she likes to
> push it away from me. Don't play with that stupid computer, pay
> attention to me!

heheh Mia always loved to hang out with me while I used the computer.
http://i59.tinypic.com/r2td1c.jpg

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:22:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 10/9/2016 10:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
>> > trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>> >
>> > Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
>> > areas (also cox cable outages).
>> >
>> > Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>> >
>> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>> cat.
>
>You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.

That's fine, when you get away with it. Hurricane Juan came ashore a
mile or so away from where I lived then and was I glad I had prepared,
such as bringing the BBQ in - many people lost patio doors when BBQs
smashed through them, leaving their houses further exposed to the
wind.

I watched four lovely trees give in and fall and when the power went,
I was without power for ten days. If I had intended to stay living
out there, I would have bought a generator after that against another
outage. Luckily I had a nice little propane ring which I was able to
donate to a local family with a newborn who were boiling water on
their BBQ, they were embarrassed because they hadn't bothered to
prepare.

Matthew took out power to 185,000 NSians as it went on its way, but
many said they were okay with generators installed since Juan.

On 10/15/2016 9:22 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 10/9/2016 10:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of downed
>>> trees and power outages. A huge number of places closed tomorrow still.
>>>
>>> Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage impacted
>>> areas (also cox cable outages).
>>>
>>> Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back into Dataw.
>>>
>> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>> cat.
>
> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>
She doesn't have opposable thumbs and at any rate I doubt she'd be a
good typist. Allow me to project my impressions of Buffy during the
hurricane.

Buffy was perplexed. Why is it so dark? What's up with that odd lamp
on the table? (Hurricane/oil lamp).

Damn, all the other rooms are *really* dark. Where the heck is my
litterbox? Who turned out the lights?!

Buffy thinks hmmm, okay... I know my way around this house. It's just
darker than usual. Oooh, found the food and water. The litterbox is in
that other room. It's dark in here. Oh yeah, there it is.

I'll have a snack and then go find Momma. She's on the other side of
the house in that room with the light.

Cats really do see better in the dark than people.

Jill

"Gary" wrote in message ...

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 10/15/2016 9:29 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>> For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
> >>> locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is
> >>> my
> >>> cat.
> >>
> >> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
> >> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
> >
> > BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
> > http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
> >
>
> That's cute! Buffy shows no interest in my computer. She does like to
> snooze on my chair when I'm not sitting on it. Oh, sometimes she sits
> on my lap. My desk has a roll-out keyboard tray and she likes to
> push it away from me. Don't play with that stupid computer, pay
> attention to me!

heheh Mia always loved to hang out with me while I used the computer.
http://i59.tinypic.com/r2td1c.jpg

===========

You seem to have computer geek babies))

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>> > cat.
>>
>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>
>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg

Winnie doesn't ask for permission, she's a cat !

https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/

jmcquown wrote:
>
>Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good light.

Um, you're not supposed to shove those LED flashlights into your
bodily orifices for illumination! LOL
Then you haven't used them... one LED lantern will light an entire
room for a week on three D cells as well as a 100W incondescent
bulb... LEDs actually cast better/cleaner light. I've been in the
process of changing all my lighting, indoor and outdoor, to LED...
emits far better/brighter light for 1/10 the cost of incondescent. I
like the outdoor fixtures that come on at dusk and go off at dawn, I
don't mind that they are on all night when they use so little
electricity. I like this for deck and patio, for 14 Watts emits a lot
more light than two 150 Watt incondescent floodlights. I have three
of these:
https://www.amazon.com/MaxLite-MLSEC...g+b y+maxlite
I have the 70 Watt version of this on my barn , lights a huge area
like daylight:
http://www.superiorlighting.com/LED_...101caal068.htm
This one lights a large area behind my garden shed:
https://hyperikon.com/product/led-wall-pack-45w/
I have two of these floodlights, one for each driveway, fantastic
lighting:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F94U1RE..._t1_B00BFJ7IAA
I placed this over the bathroom vanity over the wall mirror, at 10
Watts out performs the old fixture's four 60 W incondescent bulbs:
https://www.amazon.com/Dailyart-Bath...rror+led+light
LED fixtures may at first seem pricey but they more than pay for
themselves within the first 3-4 months with lower electric bills, and
no bulbs to buy or change, a huge advantage with difficult to reach
bulbs. As indoor incondescnt bulbs burn out I've been repacing them
with LEDs. I keep the outside well lit to discourage nocturnal
preditors.

>Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind that take
>oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got tons of
>those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used the stupid
>Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could find her litter
>box.

That's just silly, cats don't need a lantern to find their litter box.

>The room I spent most of my time in was lit by a hurricane lamp.

Oil lamps are neither safe or healthful... they can easily be knocked
over by pets and they smoke... their fumes are a carcinogen... they
were originally intended for outdoor use, and designed prior to the
advent of electric lighting. If yours are highly decorative then
display them but don't use them, if ordinary they belong in the trash.
Even the fumes from paraffin candles are a carcinogen, only beeswax
candles are safe.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:58:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:15:32 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good light.
>> Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind that take
>> oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got tons of
>> those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used the stupid
>> Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could find her litter
>> box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by a hurricane lamp.
>
>The problem with hurricane lamps is all the soot they emit - gets all
>over the house and in your lungs. Make sure you get the smokeless
>oils they sell for decorative candles. Cost 2-3X as much but well
>worth it.
>
>-sw

I'm just thankful that we were finally able to get rid of our lamps
with wicks and oil. I didn't like the idea that we could make an
actual house fire worse by storing lamp oil. Or having fire- lit
lamps in a wind storm. Or having lit lamps with a pet around. Or
cleaning the lamps. Or trimming the wicks. We used to use them in
the old days when we were just married and the power went out. Now
there are such powerful flashlights for so little money. Or special
Coleman lanterns. Or candles without fire. I love the new options.
No smoke, no smell, no soot.
Janet US

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>> > cat.
>>
>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>
>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg

Most people have a mouse on their computer, not a ferret!

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:54:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/15/2016 9:29 AM, Gary wrote:
>> BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
>>
>That's cute! Buffy shows no interest in my computer. She does like to
>snooze on my chair when I'm not sitting on it. Oh, sometimes she sits
>on my lap.

I have to be very patient in the mornings when using the computer. A
good third of the time I have either Annie or Lucy blocking the screen
and/or keyboard, at least until they settle down into my lap.

>My desk has a roll-out keyboard tray and she likes to
>push it away from me. Don't play with that stupid computer, pay
>attention to me!

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:09:46 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>>> > cat.
>>>
>>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>>
>>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
>
>Winnie doesn't ask for permission, she's a cat !
>
>https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/

Aww.

My Winnie is a dog (pic is 4 years old):
http://www.hostpic.org/images/1603281958590106.jpg

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:55:58 -0300, wrote:

>>https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 07:50:43 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:09:46 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>>>>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>>>>> > cat.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>>>>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>>>>
>>>>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
>>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
>>>
>>>Winnie doesn't ask for permission, she's a cat !
>>>
>>>https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/
>>
>>Aww.
>>
>>My Winnie is a dog (pic is 4 years old):
>>http://www.hostpic.org/images/1603281958590106.jpg
>
>Nice markings - good tempered ?

Yeah, everyone falls in love with her She will stand up for herself
but never ever provokes a fight or any bad vibes.

>https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 07:50:43 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:09:46 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>>>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>>>> > cat.
>>>>
>>>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>>>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>>>
>>>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
>>
>>Winnie doesn't ask for permission, she's a cat !
>>
>>https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/
>
>Aww.
>
>My Winnie is a dog (pic is 4 years old):
>http://www.hostpic.org/images/1603281958590106.jpg

Nice markings - good tempered ?

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 22:00:31 -0500, MaryL
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 10/9/2016 9:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > Some parts of Virginia beach are still impassable. Lots of
> > > > > downed trees and power outages. A huge number of places
> > > > > closed tomorrow
> > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure if Gary is up. He's more towards the power outage
> >>impacted >> areas (also cox cable outages).
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill is probably still holed up someplace trying to get back
> > > > > into
> > > Dataw.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jill did not leave Dataw. At least, her last message on rpca
> > > > said that she planned to remain in her house with Buffy. She
> > > > felt the government was overreacting. She pointed out some of
> > > > the problems people fact during an evacuation.
> > > >
> > > > MaryL
> > >
> > > I've seen photos of Jill's home and other homes in her community.
> > > The homes there are very well built and hers is one of the more
> > > solidly built homes. So long as she has food, plenty of wine,
> > > and books to read she will be fine. With no electric she won't
> > > be able to cook but there are plenty of foods that can be eaten
> > > straight from the can. I don't remember seeing pictures of any
> > > large trees near her house so she shouldn't suffer any damage.
> > > If she has an LED lantern and batteries she'll have plenty of
> > > light. In the past I suggested this for power failures, I have
> > > this and it works great, ten cranks and the radio plays for 15
> > > minutes:
> > > https://www.amazon.com/Eton-NFR160WX...-Powered-Flash
> > > ligh
> > > t/dp/B001QTXKB0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1476105268&sr=8-7&keywords=
> > > eton +radio+hand+crank
> >
> > I have a very similar unit, plus 4 hand crank flashlights (got
> > tired of stocking batteries for occasional needs), 2 larger
> > lanterns with the big square batteries (waterproof, can out out in
> > the rain) and several small LED types that through a LOT of light
> > for 2-4 AA batteries depending on unit.
> >
> > For ones that take batteries, Check out the Coleman Micropacker
> > lantern (3 AA batteries and comes with them). Good amount of light
> > and easy to put wherever you need. I have 3 of them now. I have
> > another one that takes only 4 AA batteries, runs roughly 72 hours
> > on high and can light my livingroom and kitchen (neither are small
> > and they are open to one another). Call it 10 nights if left on
> > all night at high power, 20 or more days at trickle feed as a
> > nightlight.
> >
> > The hand crank simple flashlights reside 1 each per car, and 2 in
> > the house.
> >
> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good
> light. Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind
> that take oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got
> tons of those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used
> the stupid Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could
> find her litter box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by
> a hurricane lamp.
>
> Jill

Hi Jill, you need to check out the new ones for lights. I am not
kidding that I can light my 16x40ft living room with one for 5 nights
running on 2 AA batteries. The bigger one with 4 AA batteries is as
good as the regular lights. Your hurricane lamp throughs 1/4 the light
of these.



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"Jeßus" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:09:46 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >>Gary wrote:
> >>>
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
> >>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
> >>> > cat.
> >>>
> >>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
> >>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
> >>
> >>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
> >> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
> >
> >Winnie doesn't ask for permission, she's a cat !
> >
> >https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/
>
> Aww.
>
> My Winnie is a dog (pic is 4 years old):
> http://www.hostpic.org/images/1603281958590106.jpg

Nice pics from both of you.

Isn't Winnie the dog the one who went on a "walkabout" a few months ago.
So lucky you got her back. I know you were happy.

On 10/15/2016 8:14 PM, cshenk wrote in reply to Jill:
>> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good
>> >light. Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind
>> >that take oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got
>> >tons of those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used
>> >the stupid Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could
>> >find her litter box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by
>> >a hurricane lamp.
>> >
>> >Jill
> Hi Jill, you need to check out the new ones for lights. I am not
> kidding that I can light my 16x40ft living room with one for 5 nights
> running on 2 AA batteries. The bigger one with 4 AA batteries is as
> good as the regular lights. Your hurricane lamp throughs 1/4 the light
> of these.

Um... my LED lanterns are less than five years old. Am I supposed to
buy new ones every year or something?

The fact is, I do not like the harsh white light they cast. I much
preferred the gentle glow from the large table/oil lamp in the den.

I used one of the LED lanterns to light the master bathroom. I set it
on the vanity/sink. That pretty much lit my way to the adjoining room
where the toilet & tub is. Buffy's litter box is in that room, too, so
she could see to use *her* toilet at night.

Different strokes. Overall, I prefer the ambiance of the oil lamps. I
*do* have a battery operated LED book light.

Jill

>District 10: Gardiner Mines-Dominion
>
>Darren Bruckschwaiger was elected with 2,426 votes, topping Brian Shaw (1,266) and former MLA Dave Wilson (669).
>
>Wilson had high hopes of a political comeback after he was jailed in 2012 for committing fraud in an expense scandal that netted a number of other MLAs as well.On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 08:02:13 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:09:46 -0300, wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:29:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Gary wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>> > For the record: I didn't go anywhere. Mandatory evac order and they
>> >>> > locked the island down. I'm still here and so is the house and so is my
>> >>> > cat.
>> >>>
>> >>> You are so "YAWN" about this storm. I'd like to hear what Buffy
>> >>> has to say about that day. Please allow her to post.
>> >>
>> >>BTW - I always let Jackie use my computer.
>> >> http://i43.tinypic.com/2vm6p2t.jpg
>> >
>> >Winnie doesn't ask for permission, she's a cat !
>> >
>> >https://postimg.org/image/ft5eogqcz/
>>
>> Aww.
>>
>> My Winnie is a dog (pic is 4 years old):
>> http://www.hostpic.org/images/1603281958590106.jpg
>
>Nice pics from both of you.
>
>Isn't Winnie the dog the one who went on a "walkabout" a few months ago.
>So lucky you got her back. I know you were happy.

Yes, that's right - how did you get her back ?

On 10/15/2016 10:58 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:15:32 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good light.
>> Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind that take
>> oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got tons of
>> those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used the stupid
>> Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could find her litter
>> box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by a hurricane lamp.
>
> The problem with hurricane lamps is all the soot they emit - gets all
> over the house and in your lungs. Make sure you get the smokeless
> oils they sell for decorative candles. Cost 2-3X as much but well
> worth it.
>
> -sw
>
Steve, I'm a smoker so I'm not terribly worried about soot. But yes, I
buy smokeless type oils designed specifically for these lamps. The
shades on the lamps don't get sooty unless you set the wick too high.

That reminds me, I need to put lamp oil on my shopping list.

Jill

On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:11:17 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 10/15/2016 8:14 PM, cshenk wrote in reply to Jill:
> >> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good
> >> >light. Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind
> >> >that take oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got
> >> >tons of those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used
> >> >the stupid Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could
> >> >find her litter box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by
> >> >a hurricane lamp.
> >> >
> >> >Jill
> > Hi Jill, you need to check out the new ones for lights. I am not
> > kidding that I can light my 16x40ft living room with one for 5 nights
> > running on 2 AA batteries. The bigger one with 4 AA batteries is as
> > good as the regular lights. Your hurricane lamp throughs 1/4 the light
> > of these.
>
> Um... my LED lanterns are less than five years old. Am I supposed to
> buy new ones every year or something?
>
> The fact is, I do not like the harsh white light they cast. I much
> preferred the gentle glow from the large table/oil lamp in the den.
>

I'm with you. I don't like LED light; it looks "dead" to me, because
it is not anything close to full-spectrum light. The new bathroom
uses incandescent and halogen. Lighting is my least wasteful
use of electricity. If I wanted to conserve, I'd get rid of my
year-round outdoor hot tub.

Cindy Hamilton

wrote:

> Gary wrote:
> >Isn't Winnie the dog the one who went on a "walkabout" a few months ago.
> >So lucky you got her back. I know you were happy.
>
> Yes, that's right - how did you get her back ?

I remember. A neighbor or friend of his called up and said she showed up
at their house so he drove there to pick her up...or they drove her
home. Something like that.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I'm with you. I don't like LED light;

I have a LED mini-flashlight (several of them actually). I love them for
flashlights. Nice and bright and very little drain on the batteries.
They are also nice for runners or bikers in the dark. Also good for
getting around house during a power outage and reading at night.

The one LED that really annoys me though is the new auto headlight LEDs.
They are so bright and annoying when approaching a vehicle with them.
Their low beams look like high beams. And when they keep the high beams
on, it completely blinds you as they get close.

I don't go out at night but I often drive to work in the early morning
when it's still dark. I actually think the car ones are a hazard. Too
bright for oncoming vehicles.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> If I wanted to conserve, I'd get rid of my
> year-round outdoor hot tub.

I'd get rid of that nonsense anyway, no matter the cost
of power to heat it and water to fill it.

When it's cold out, I'll come in and warm up with a nice hot shower,
then I'll stay indoors with nifty furnace running. Not going to undress
and sit out on the back porch in a hot tub with head freezing. lol.

But, that said... Each to their own. Cheri now commands us all to say
that. :-D

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> If I wanted to conserve, I'd get rid of my
> year-round outdoor hot tub.

I'd get rid of that nonsense anyway, no matter the cost
of power to heat it and water to fill it.

When it's cold out, I'll come in and warm up with a nice hot shower,
then I'll stay indoors with nifty furnace running. Not going to undress
and sit out on the back porch in a hot tub with head freezing. lol.

But, that said... Each to their own. Cheri now commands us all to say
that. :-D

===============

Oh come on. It is a fair comment. 'To each his/her own' is exactly how it
should be !!



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On 10/16/2016 9:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:11:17 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 10/15/2016 8:14 PM, cshenk wrote in reply to Jill:
>>>> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good
>>>>> light. Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind
>>>>> that take oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got
>>>>> tons of those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used
>>>>> the stupid Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could
>>>>> find her litter box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by
>>>>> a hurricane lamp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>> Hi Jill, you need to check out the new ones for lights. I am not
>>> kidding that I can light my 16x40ft living room with one for 5 nights
>>> running on 2 AA batteries. The bigger one with 4 AA batteries is as
>>> good as the regular lights. Your hurricane lamp throughs 1/4 the light
>>> of these.
>>
>> Um... my LED lanterns are less than five years old. Am I supposed to
>> buy new ones every year or something?
>>
>> The fact is, I do not like the harsh white light they cast. I much
>> preferred the gentle glow from the large table/oil lamp in the den.
>>
>
> I'm with you. I don't like LED light; it looks "dead" to me, because
> it is not anything close to full-spectrum light. The new bathroom
> uses incandescent and halogen. Lighting is my least wasteful
> use of electricity. If I wanted to conserve, I'd get rid of my
> year-round outdoor hot tub.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Yep, I use halogen light bulbs in my electric lamps. So much nicer than
the glare of bright white LED, which is cold and harsh.

BTW, in case you missed it I do like your bathroom remodel. Nice! (I
have one of those Blenko glass bottles sitting on a table in the entry way.)

Jill

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 06:19:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:11:17 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 10/15/2016 8:14 PM, cshenk wrote in reply to Jill:
>> >> Flashlights and LED lanterns are a PIA and don't really cast good
>> >> >light. Know what I used? Actual hurricane lamps. Yes, the kind
>> >> >that take oil and wicks. No need to worry about batteries (I've got
>> >> >tons of those) or bulbs burhing out as long as you have oil. I used
>> >> >the stupid Coleman LED lantern to light the bathroom so Buffy could
>> >> >find her litter box. The room I spent most of my time in was lit by
>> >> >a hurricane lamp.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jill
>> > Hi Jill, you need to check out the new ones for lights. I am not
>> > kidding that I can light my 16x40ft living room with one for 5 nights
>> > running on 2 AA batteries. The bigger one with 4 AA batteries is as
>> > good as the regular lights. Your hurricane lamp throughs 1/4 the light
>> > of these.
>>
>> Um... my LED lanterns are less than five years old. Am I supposed to
>> buy new ones every year or something?
>>
>> The fact is, I do not like the harsh white light they cast. I much
>> preferred the gentle glow from the large table/oil lamp in the den.
>>
>
>I'm with you. I don't like LED light; it looks "dead" to me, because
>it is not anything close to full-spectrum light. The new bathroom
>uses incandescent and halogen. Lighting is my least wasteful
>use of electricity. If I wanted to conserve, I'd get rid of my
>year-round outdoor hot tub.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Don't you have the choice of LED tones? In my local hardware there
are bulbs all in a row and you can turn them on to get what you want,
they go from white/white through blue, through pink tones. I like one
of the whites because it doesn't alter the colours in my home.

I have halogen in my bathroom, a bar with five lamps on it, love it.
Same sort of thing in the kitchen overhead but under the cabinets I
have LED pucks, again picked for the tone of light. Think I bought
those in Home Depot and they had the testers too.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 09:22:29 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >Isn't Winnie the dog the one who went on a "walkabout" a few months ago.
>> >So lucky you got her back. I know you were happy.
>>
>> Yes, that's right - how did you get her back ?
>
>I remember. A neighbor or friend of his called up and said she showed up
>at their house so he drove there to pick her up...or they drove her
>home. Something like that.

Glad of that, usually not a happy ending story.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 09:44:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I'm with you. I don't like LED light;
>
>I have a LED mini-flashlight (several of them actually). I love them for
>flashlights. Nice and bright and very little drain on the batteries.
>They are also nice for runners or bikers in the dark. Also good for
>getting around house during a power outage and reading at night.
>
>The one LED that really annoys me though is the new auto headlight LEDs.
>They are so bright and annoying when approaching a vehicle with them.
>Their low beams look like high beams. And when they keep the high beams
>on, it completely blinds you as they get close.
>
>I don't go out at night but I often drive to work in the early morning
>when it's still dark. I actually think the car ones are a hazard. Too
>bright for oncoming vehicles.

When I still lived out of town I hated those on SUVs. They would come
up behind me and force me to adjust my side mirrors incorrectly or
else go blind. I eventually found a method where I could adjust them
so it reflected the annoyance right back to them