The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.

Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
today.

lucretiaborgia wrote:
>
>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.

Why pray tell do people insist on having large trees slose to
structures? There should be no tree should it fall be able to reach
your house, garage, or outbuildings. When I first moved here there
were several very large trees growing right next to the house. I
wasn't here two weeks that I had them all taken down. I've planted
many more trees but none near the house that could possibly grow
large. There are many gorgeous trees that grow less than 15 feet
tall. Apple trees grow fast, plant another but be sure it's a
semi-dwarf, it'll provide shade but fruit trees are not meant to be
shade trees due to when properly pruned they have an open structure
plus why would anyone want to sit under a tree that attracts all kinds
of insects? Semi-dwarf apple trees will produce far more apples than
a family can possibly use plus they are much easier to harvest...
commercial fruit orchards plant semi-dwarf trees, they are easier to
prune and to harvest. I'd rather have 2-3 semi-dwarf apple trees than
one full size (standard) apple tree... they need a pollenator anyway.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:

>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>
>Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>today.

I am amazed at this storm. I had no idea that it would have that
kind of wind in it still. Glad no one was hurt.
Janet US

wrote:
>
> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>
> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
> today.

Wow. That damn storm did that to YOU in NS? WTH?

On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>
> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
> today.
>


I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
>> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>
>> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>> today.
>>
>
>
>I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
>a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
>of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
>use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
>cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
>switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
>sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
>see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
>of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.

That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
my new trees and grass seed.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:14:43 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:
>
>>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>
>>Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>>today.
>
> I am amazed at this storm. I had no idea that it would have that
>kind of wind in it still. Glad no one was hurt.
>Janet US

There's always one - daft old man up in Cape Breton apparently drove
round some barriers on a street and wound up skidding and hitting a
house, he's in poor condition in hospital.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:18:54 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>
>> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>> today.
>
>Wow. That damn storm did that to YOU in NS? WTH?

It mixed in with storm winds from the northwest apparently.

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
> >>
> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
> >> today.
> >>
> >
> >
> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
>
> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
> my new trees and grass seed.

Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?

If I recall correctly, the original well for my house was 25 feet.
Its replacement (which was the one in use when I bought it) was
maybe 60 feet. That filtered the rainwater through 12 feet
of clay, a bunch of sand, and then the well pump was in gravel.
Hardly different from Stages 1-3 of treatment at the water treatment
plant.

I'm on city water/sewer now, and I drink surface water from
Lake St. Clair (between Lake Huron and the Detroit River),
suitably treated, of course.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> lucretiaborgia wrote:
> >
> >The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> >another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> >wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> >son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> >beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> >weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>
> Why pray tell do people insist on having large trees slose to
> structures? There should be no tree should it fall be able to reach
> your house, garage, or outbuildings. When I first moved here there
> were several very large trees growing right next to the house. I
> wasn't here two weeks that I had them all taken down.

We did exactly the same. Homes damage from trees and flooding are
major insurance claims these days.

When I first insured this property, among the first questions asked by
the insurers were, "How many trees are within reach of the roof" and
"how close is the nearest waterway".

Janet UK

Sheldon wrote:

> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.


That's nothing, Steve's well is only about 15 feet from his open pit latrine...

--
Best
Greg

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
>> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>> >>
>> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>> >> today.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
>> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
>> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
>> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
>> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
>> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
>> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
>> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
>> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
>>
>> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
>> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
>> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
>> my new trees and grass seed.
>
>Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?


It's very obvious with that remark that you know absolutely nothing
about wells.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:04:03 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>
>> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
>> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
>
>
>That's nothing, Steve's well is only about 15 feet from his open pit latrine...

The dwarf's tex-mex water is from when he flushes his terlit.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:


>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.

Phew. I thought you took a leaf out of Jeffrey Dahmer's book.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:03:33 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
>>> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>>> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>>> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>>> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>>> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>>> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>>> >> today.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
>>> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
>>> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
>>> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
>>> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
>>> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
>>> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
>>> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
>>> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
>>>
>>> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
>>> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
>>> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
>>> my new trees and grass seed.
>>
>>Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?
>
>
>It's very obvious with that remark that you know absolutely nothing
>about wells.

Most of the dug wells here are very old wells dating back a couple of
centuries, there were no drilled wells at that point.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:13:48 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:
>
>
>>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>
>Phew. I thought you took a leaf out of Jeffrey Dahmer's book.

I don't get that lol

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:36:11 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:13:48 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>>>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>>>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>>>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>>>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>>>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>
>>Phew. I thought you took a leaf out of Jeffrey Dahmer's book.
>
>I don't get that lol

"remains of Matthew"

Just my sense of humour...

On 2016-10-11 3:59 PM, Janet wrote:

> We did exactly the same. Homes damage from trees and flooding are
> major insurance claims these days.
>
> When I first insured this property, among the first questions asked by
> the insurers were, "How many trees are within reach of the roof" and
> "how close is the nearest waterway".
>
I had a huge branch from a tree fall on my house a few years ago. It did
$24,000 damage to my roof. I wish it had happened a year and a half
earlier because I had just had a new roof installed.

A few years before that the insurance company had sent an inspector
around. They made me replace my oil tank because it was more than 25
years old, and there was nothing wrong with it. Lucky for me they
contracted the inspection to some guy who just wanted to get it done. He
passed my barn without even going out to look at it. It is in really bad
shape and I figure a good wind storm could blow it over one of these
days. Since he didn't go back and actually look at it he put it down as
a garage.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:44:27 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:36:11 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:13:48 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>>>>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>>>>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>>>>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>>>>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>>>>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>>
>>>Phew. I thought you took a leaf out of Jeffrey Dahmer's book.
>>
>>I don't get that lol
>
>"remains of Matthew"
>
>Just my sense of humour...

Now I get it -

On 10/11/2016 3:59 PM, Janet wrote:

>
> We did exactly the same. Homes damage from trees and flooding are
> major insurance claims these days.
>
> When I first insured this property, among the first questions asked by
> the insurers were, "How many trees are within reach of the roof" and
> "how close is the nearest waterway".
>
> Janet UK
>

Never been asked that by insurers. I did take a couple of trees down
and trimmed a couple of others. My garage is about 10 feet from the
property line and a wooded area with a few trees that could come down on
it.

On 10/11/2016 7:25 AM, wrote:
> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>
> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
> today.
>


Bypassed us to get to you. All we got was an inch of needed rain.
Sucks to lose part of a garage.

On 10/11/2016 11:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
> a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
> of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
> use when we are on the cistern.

Not a bad price. I pay about $60 for that with city water and sewer
charges. We used 5000 gallons last quarter.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...

> Why pray tell do people insist on having large trees slose to
> structures? There should be no tree should it fall be able to reach
> your house, garage, or outbuildings. When I first moved here there

Probably because most people don't have a large place like yours where they
can plant a tree far away from any building.

Cheri

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 5:04:08 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
> >> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> >> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> >> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> >> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> >> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> >> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
> >> >> today.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
> >> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
> >> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
> >> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
> >> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
> >> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
> >> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
> >> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
> >> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
> >>
> >> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
> >> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
> >> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
> >> my new trees and grass seed.
> >
> >Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?
>
>
> It's very obvious with that remark that you know absolutely nothing
> about wells.

For each well, there's an optimum depth beyond which the return on
drilling farther does not outweigh the cost. That depth, of course,
will depend on the hydrogeology of the site.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:27:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 5:04:08 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
>> >> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>> >> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>> >> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>> >> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>> >> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>> >> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>> >> >> today.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
>> >> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
>> >> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
>> >> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
>> >> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
>> >> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
>> >> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
>> >> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
>> >> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
>> >>
>> >> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
>> >> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
>> >> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
>> >> my new trees and grass seed.
>> >
>> >Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?
>>
>>
>> It's very obvious with that remark that you know absolutely nothing
>> about wells.
>
>For each well, there's an optimum depth beyond which the return on
>drilling farther does not outweigh the cost. That depth, of course,
>will depend on the hydrogeology of the site.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

You know it, I know it, but don't try telling him Many of the dug
wells outside of Halifax were dug, the hard way. However they have
done very well, it's only in record years like this that they fail.

In article >, says...
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Why pray tell do people insist on having large trees slose to
> > structures? There should be no tree should it fall be able to reach
> > your house, garage, or outbuildings. When I first moved here there
>
> Probably because most people don't have a large place like yours where they
> can plant a tree far away from any building.
>
Nonsense. The smaller the plot of land, the MORE important it is for
property owners to consider the potential risk of trees can pose to
buildings, power lines and underground services (or the neighbours').
Not just from falling timber but roots affecting foundations and
drains, and the effects of water uptake (by trees) causing land
subsidence. And in parts of US, the risk from fire.

http://www.gocompare.com/home-insurance/trees/


Janet UK

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:27:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 5:04:08 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
>> >> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>> >> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>> >> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>> >> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>> >> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>> >> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
>> >> >> today.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
>> >> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
>> >> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
>> >> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
>> >> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
>> >> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
>> >> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
>> >> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
>> >> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
>> >>
>> >> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
>> >> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
>> >> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
>> >> my new trees and grass seed.
>> >
>> >Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?
>>
>>
>> It's very obvious with that remark that you know absolutely nothing
>> about wells.
>
>For each well, there's an optimum depth beyond which the return on
>drilling farther does not outweigh the cost. That depth, of course,
>will depend on the hydrogeology of the site.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

You missed the point... for potable water you don't want a shallow
well, ground water is generally poluted with bacteria, it's fine for
irrgation of crops but not suitable for drinking or bathing. A proper
well needs to reach a deeper water table.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:44:12 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:13:48 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:25:47 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
>>>another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
>>>wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
>>>son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
>>>beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
>>>weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
>>
>> Phew. I thought you took a leaf out of Jeffrey Dahmer's book.
>
>Matthew was the first victim to be placed in 57-gallon the drum.

Hah, I did not even realise that.

>June 30 1991: Matthew Turner, 20. On June 30, Dahmer attended the
>Chicago Pride Parade. At a bus stop, he encountered a 20-year-old
>named Matthew Turner and persuaded him to accompany him to Milwaukee
>to pose for a photo shoot. Turner was drugged, strangled, and then
>dismembered in the bathtub. His head and internal organs were placed
>in the freezer and his torso subsequently placed in the 57-gallon drum
>Dahmer purchased on July 12.

I find serial killers and other serious criminals fascinating, not so
much for their deeds but for the background story and the detective
work that tracks them down, etc.

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 1:27:49 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:27:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 5:04:08 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 11:38:23 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:21:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On 2016-10-11 7:25 AM, wrote:
> >> >> >> The heavy storm arrived here yesterday and last night, mixed in with
> >> >> >> another storm and although it has brought much needed rain for filling
> >> >> >> wells (apparently record amounts in one go) many people, including my
> >> >> >> son, are without power and lots of trees are down - my grandson lost a
> >> >> >> beautiful old apple tree - we were sitting under it for shade a few
> >> >> >> weekends ago, but it's gone now. Took part of the garage with it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Maximum damage has been done up in Cape Breton, all schools closed
> >> >> >> today.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I will pass on the wind but we could sure use some of that rain. I have
> >> >> >a dug well and a cistern. I collect some water off the roof, but most
> >> >> >of it is delivered and at $55 FOR 1500 gallons, we take it easy on water
> >> >> >use when we are on the cistern. Some summers I have to switch to
> >> >> >cistern in August and by September the well is back up up. This year I
> >> >> >switched to cistern in June. I tried to switch back last week but it was
> >> >> >sucking air. I took the well cover off last week and was surprised to
> >> >> >see it is still dry. It is not just low. It is dry. It will take a lot
> >> >> >of rain to permeate the ground enough to get it filled up again.
> >> >>
> >> >> That must be a very shallow well. I wouldn't want to drink ground
> >> >> water. I have two drilled wells (six inch), each almost 200' deep.
> >> >> Reminds me, It hasn't rained here for about three weeks, time to water
> >> >> my new trees and grass seed.
> >> >
> >> >Who's going to pay to dig farther than they have to?
> >>
> >>
> >> It's very obvious with that remark that you know absolutely nothing
> >> about wells.
> >
> >For each well, there's an optimum depth beyond which the return on
> >drilling farther does not outweigh the cost. That depth, of course,
> >will depend on the hydrogeology of the site.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> You missed the point... for potable water you don't want a shallow
> well, ground water is generally poluted with bacteria, it's fine for
> irrgation of crops but not suitable for drinking or bathing. A proper
> well needs to reach a deeper water table.

There are no urban/suburb areas that I'd live in with well water, no matter how deep. The risk of dry cleaner/gas station leaks is too much. Look at what GE did to the Hudson.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:42:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>
>There are no urban/suburb areas that I'd live in with well water, no matter how deep. The risk of dry cleaner/gas station leaks is too much. Look at what GE did to the Hudson.

In NS we still have plenty of land that can support clean wells.

However there is more of a disaster than first thought from the
storms. Many houses in Sydney flooded and ruined and now the
insurance companies are not necessarily paying out. It would seem
that unless the flood arrived via drains and toilets, they don't have
to pay. Also with cars, unless you have a 'special perils' clause
(and doubtless are paying more) then if your car was flooded, floated
away, you're again out of luck.

After NS the storm then went on to create havoc in Newfoundland.

Now there is Nicole and they seem pretty confident that won't come
here ...

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 08:15:02 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:42:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>
>>There are no urban/suburb areas that I'd live in with well water, no matter how deep. The risk of dry cleaner/gas station leaks is too much. Look at what GE did to the Hudson.
>
>In NS we still have plenty of land that can support clean wells.
>
>However there is more of a disaster than first thought from the
>storms. Many houses in Sydney flooded and ruined and now the
>insurance companies are not necessarily paying out. It would seem
>that unless the flood arrived via drains and toilets, they don't have
>to pay. Also with cars, unless you have a 'special perils' clause
>(and doubtless are paying more) then if your car was flooded, floated
>away, you're again out of luck.
>
>After NS the storm then went on to create havoc in Newfoundland.
>
>Now there is Nicole and they seem pretty confident that won't come
>here ...

my husband and I were talking about this just last night. I expect
insurance companies to be really picky after this storm. They are
going to take a big hit.
It makes a difference to insurance companies why your roof came off,
did hurricane wind take it off or was it swept away in flood water,
stuff like that. We've got all peril insurance. Takes care of
landslides, floods, wind, earth movement, range fires. Doesn't do
civil unrest.
Janet US

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 10:25:44 AM UTC-5, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 08:15:02 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:42:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>There are no urban/suburb areas that I'd live in with well water, no matter how deep. The risk of dry cleaner/gas station leaks is too much. Look at what GE did to the Hudson.
> >
> >In NS we still have plenty of land that can support clean wells.
> >
> >However there is more of a disaster than first thought from the
> >storms. Many houses in Sydney flooded and ruined and now the
> >insurance companies are not necessarily paying out. It would seem
> >that unless the flood arrived via drains and toilets, they don't have
> >to pay. Also with cars, unless you have a 'special perils' clause
> >(and doubtless are paying more) then if your car was flooded, floated
> >away, you're again out of luck.
> >
> >After NS the storm then went on to create havoc in Newfoundland.
> >
> >Now there is Nicole and they seem pretty confident that won't come
> >here ...
>
> my husband and I were talking about this just last night. I expect
> insurance companies to be really picky after this storm. They are
> going to take a big hit.
> It makes a difference to insurance companies why your roof came off,
> did hurricane wind take it off or was it swept away in flood water,
> stuff like that. We've got all peril insurance. Takes care of
> landslides, floods, wind, earth movement, range fires. Doesn't do
> civil unrest.
> Janet US

Yup, rainwater flood insurance is separate, and US government run. Regular HO insurance covers tornado damage and fires Thats why the New Yorkers in seaside Brooklyn/Queens torched their places after Sandy, insurance covers the FIRE loss.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:42:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
> >
> > There are no urban/suburb areas that I'd live in with well water,
> > no matter how deep. The risk of dry cleaner/gas station leaks is
> > too much. Look at what GE did to the Hudson.
>
> In NS we still have plenty of land that can support clean wells.
>
> However there is more of a disaster than first thought from the
> storms. Many houses in Sydney flooded and ruined and now the
> insurance companies are not necessarily paying out. It would seem
> that unless the flood arrived via drains and toilets, they don't have
> to pay. Also with cars, unless you have a 'special perils' clause
> (and doubtless are paying more) then if your car was flooded, floated
> away, you're again out of luck.
>
> After NS the storm then went on to create havoc in Newfoundland.
>
> Now there is Nicole and they seem pretty confident that won't come
> here ...

I saw a gofundme locally. Trailer destroyed by tree and flooding. So
far, they indicate FEMA won't help. Seems related to National Disaster
but I think the real tie is he didnt have insurance on the place (Fema
is also a flooding insurance you pay yearly here).

--

On 10/13/2016 8:39 PM, cshenk wrote:

>> Now there is Nicole and they seem pretty confident that won't come
>> here ...
>
> I saw a gofundme locally. Trailer destroyed by tree and flooding. So
> far, they indicate FEMA won't help. Seems related to National Disaster
> but I think the real tie is he didnt have insurance on the place (Fema
> is also a flooding insurance you pay yearly here).
>

I feel bad for the people, but if insurance is available it would be
prudent to buy some. I'd want more information before donating to
someone like that.

On 10/11/2016 11:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 3:59 PM, Janet wrote:
>
>>
>> We did exactly the same. Homes damage from trees and flooding are
>> major insurance claims these days.
>>
>> When I first insured this property, among the first questions asked by
>> the insurers were, "How many trees are within reach of the roof" and
>> "how close is the nearest waterway".
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
> Never been asked that by insurers. I did take a couple of trees down
> and trimmed a couple of others. My garage is about 10 feet from the
> property line and a wooded area with a few trees that could come down on
> it.

Every year when I renew the "wind & hail" policy (it's a rider with a
higher deductible), regardless of the insurance carrier they alway send
someone out to take pictures of the house before they bind the coverage.
This is to ensure there are no tree branches already touching the roof
which might later be claimed as storm damage. I understand that.

Jill

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> (including the back deck which needs demolished anyway).

Don't you dare demolish your cool aged back deck. Get a pump garden
sprayer and flood that deck with Thompson's water seal about every 6
months. IMO, naturally. I love the look of your aged wood.

Gary wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > (including the back deck which needs demolished anyway).
>
> Don't you dare demolish your cool aged back deck. Get a pump garden
> sprayer and flood that deck with Thompson's water seal about every 6
> months. IMO, naturally. I love the look of your aged wood.


So you admit that you admire Steve's mouldy olde penis...???

;-P

--
Best
Greg

In article >, The
Greatest! says...
>
> Gary wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > (including the back deck which needs demolished anyway).
> >
> > Don't you dare demolish your cool aged back deck. Get a pump garden
> > sprayer and flood that deck with Thompson's water seal about every 6
> > months. IMO, naturally. I love the look of your aged wood.
>
>
> So you admit that you admire Steve's mouldy olde penis...???

lol, I agree there was something strange about that last sentence.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:26:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:22:11 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> (including the back deck which needs demolished anyway).
>>
>> Don't you dare demolish your cool aged back deck. Get a pump garden
>> sprayer and flood that deck with Thompson's water seal about every 6
>> months. IMO, naturally. I love the look of your aged wood.
>
>It's way too late for water sealer. I'm probably the only one on the
>street with their original deck still standing (or being able to be
>stood upon). Most people have removed their decks and replaced with
>steps and maybe a concrete or tile patio. Only a few have rebuilt
>using a composite wood product. Everybody's deck is shaded most of
>the day so even treated wood doesn't last long in our weather
>patterns.
>
>-sw

Around here if the supporting structure is sound after about twenty
years people remove the wood decking, flip it over and screw it
back... they get another twenty years... may as well use both sides.
Some wood may need replacing but most is like new on the bottom.