Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6553226&type=3

It illustrates the email I got which reads "For those of you that are
evacuating from the coast, I just heard a great tip. It's called the one
cup tip. You put a cup of water in your freezer. Freeze it solid and
then put a quarter on top of it and leave it in your freezer. That way
when you come back after you've been evacuated you can tell if your food
went completely bad and just refroze or if it stayed Frozen while you
were gone. If the quarter has fallen to the bottom of the cup that means
all the food defrosted and you should throw it out. But if the quarter
is either on the top or in the middle of the cup then your food may
still be ok."

I had a 10 lb. bag of ice in my freezer. It barely melted. That's
pretty much how I knew most of my thawed food was still very cold.

I judiciously disposed of seafood and older food items. Some items can
be refrozen, perhaps suffering only some texture quality. Frozen
vegetables are already cooked so... throwing them out is a judgement call.

It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
Sounds pretty wacky to me.

Jill

>District 10: Gardiner Mines-Dominion
>
>Darren Bruckschwaiger was elected with 2,426 votes, topping Brian Shaw (1,266) and former MLA Dave Wilson (669).
>
>Wilson had high hopes of a political comeback after he was jailed in 2012 for committing fraud in an expense scandal that netted a number of other MLAs as well.On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown > wrote:

>Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
>someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:
>
>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6553226&type=3
>
>It illustrates the email I got which reads "For those of you that are
>evacuating from the coast, I just heard a great tip. It's called the one
>cup tip. You put a cup of water in your freezer. Freeze it solid and
>then put a quarter on top of it and leave it in your freezer. That way
>when you come back after you've been evacuated you can tell if your food
>went completely bad and just refroze or if it stayed Frozen while you
>were gone. If the quarter has fallen to the bottom of the cup that means
>all the food defrosted and you should throw it out. But if the quarter
>is either on the top or in the middle of the cup then your food may
>still be ok."
>
>I had a 10 lb. bag of ice in my freezer. It barely melted. That's
>pretty much how I knew most of my thawed food was still very cold.
>
>I judiciously disposed of seafood and older food items. Some items can
>be refrozen, perhaps suffering only some texture quality. Frozen
>vegetables are already cooked so... throwing them out is a judgement call.
>
>It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>
>Jill

It may, but it's not. If you have evacuated and do not get to return
until after the power has returned, how else can you tell that your
freezer unfroze and refroze - sure sign if the coin is on the bottom.
Think about it and maybe the light will dawn.

On 10/16/2016 9:25 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>> coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
>> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>
> Just take an ice cube out of a tray and set it anywhere in the
> freezer. Duh.
>
> -sw
>

you'll never make any click bait money with that attitude!

wrote in message ...

>District 10: Gardiner Mines-Dominion
>
>Darren Bruckschwaiger was elected with 2,426 votes, topping Brian Shaw
>(1,266) and former MLA Dave Wilson (669).
>
>Wilson had high hopes of a political comeback after he was jailed in 2012
>for committing fraud in an expense scandal that netted a number of other
>MLAs as well.On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown
> wrote:

>Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
>someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:
>
>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6553226&type=3
>
>It illustrates the email I got which reads "For those of you that are
>evacuating from the coast, I just heard a great tip. It's called the one
>cup tip. You put a cup of water in your freezer. Freeze it solid and
>then put a quarter on top of it and leave it in your freezer. That way
>when you come back after you've been evacuated you can tell if your food
>went completely bad and just refroze or if it stayed Frozen while you
>were gone. If the quarter has fallen to the bottom of the cup that means
>all the food defrosted and you should throw it out. But if the quarter
>is either on the top or in the middle of the cup then your food may
>still be ok."
>
>I had a 10 lb. bag of ice in my freezer. It barely melted. That's
>pretty much how I knew most of my thawed food was still very cold.
>
>I judiciously disposed of seafood and older food items. Some items can
>be refrozen, perhaps suffering only some texture quality. Frozen
>vegetables are already cooked so... throwing them out is a judgement call.
>
>It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>
>Jill

It may, but it's not. If you have evacuated and do not get to return
until after the power has returned, how else can you tell that your
freezer unfroze and refroze - sure sign if the coin is on the bottom.
Think about it and maybe the light will dawn.

====================

I keep a small plastic bag containing two ice cubes and they live in a top
baskets in my freezers. If they are melted I know I have a problem.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 10/16/2016 12:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> wrote in message ...
>
>> District 10: Gardiner Mines-Dominion
>>
>> Darren Bruckschwaiger was elected with 2,426 votes, topping Brian Shaw
>> (1,266) and former MLA Dave Wilson (669).
>>
>> Wilson had high hopes of a political comeback after he was jailed in
>> 2012 for committing fraud in an expense scandal that netted a number
>> of other MLAs as well.On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown
>> > wrote:
>
>> Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
>> someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6553226&type=3
>>
>>
>> It illustrates the email I got which reads "For those of you that are
>> evacuating from the coast, I just heard a great tip. It's called the one
>> cup tip. You put a cup of water in your freezer. Freeze it solid and
>> then put a quarter on top of it and leave it in your freezer. That way
>> when you come back after you've been evacuated you can tell if your food
>> went completely bad and just refroze or if it stayed Frozen while you
>> were gone. If the quarter has fallen to the bottom of the cup that means
>> all the food defrosted and you should throw it out. But if the quarter
>> is either on the top or in the middle of the cup then your food may
>> still be ok."
>>
>> I had a 10 lb. bag of ice in my freezer. It barely melted. That's
>> pretty much how I knew most of my thawed food was still very cold.
>>
>> I judiciously disposed of seafood and older food items. Some items can
>> be refrozen, perhaps suffering only some texture quality. Frozen
>> vegetables are already cooked so... throwing them out is a judgement
>> call.
>>
>> It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>> coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
>> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It may, but it's not. If you have evacuated and do not get to return
> until after the power has returned, how else can you tell that your
> freezer unfroze and refroze - sure sign if the coin is on the bottom.
> Think about it and maybe the light will dawn.
>
> ====================
>
> I keep a small plastic bag containing two ice cubes and they live in a
> top baskets in my freezers. If they are melted I know I have a problem.
>
I could tell because the bag of ice in the freezer barely melted.
Everything was still very cold. I know better than to keep opening the
freezer, too.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 10/16/2016 12:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> wrote in message ...
>
>> District 10: Gardiner Mines-Dominion
>>
>> Darren Bruckschwaiger was elected with 2,426 votes, topping Brian Shaw
>> (1,266) and former MLA Dave Wilson (669).
>>
>> Wilson had high hopes of a political comeback after he was jailed in
>> 2012 for committing fraud in an expense scandal that netted a number
>> of other MLAs as well.On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown
>> > wrote:
>
>> Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
>> someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6553226&type=3
>>
>>
>> It illustrates the email I got which reads "For those of you that are
>> evacuating from the coast, I just heard a great tip. It's called the one
>> cup tip. You put a cup of water in your freezer. Freeze it solid and
>> then put a quarter on top of it and leave it in your freezer. That way
>> when you come back after you've been evacuated you can tell if your food
>> went completely bad and just refroze or if it stayed Frozen while you
>> were gone. If the quarter has fallen to the bottom of the cup that means
>> all the food defrosted and you should throw it out. But if the quarter
>> is either on the top or in the middle of the cup then your food may
>> still be ok."
>>
>> I had a 10 lb. bag of ice in my freezer. It barely melted. That's
>> pretty much how I knew most of my thawed food was still very cold.
>>
>> I judiciously disposed of seafood and older food items. Some items can
>> be refrozen, perhaps suffering only some texture quality. Frozen
>> vegetables are already cooked so... throwing them out is a judgement
>> call.
>>
>> It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>> coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
>> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It may, but it's not. If you have evacuated and do not get to return
> until after the power has returned, how else can you tell that your
> freezer unfroze and refroze - sure sign if the coin is on the bottom.
> Think about it and maybe the light will dawn.
>
> ====================
>
> I keep a small plastic bag containing two ice cubes and they live in a
> top baskets in my freezers. If they are melted I know I have a problem.
>
I could tell because the bag of ice in the freezer barely melted.
Everything was still very cold. I know better than to keep opening the
freezer, too.

Jill

==================

Keeping that kind of system gives a good check on your food. A full freezer
defrosts Very slowly and since you know not to open it, I would think your
food is definitely safe.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 10/16/2016 12:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>> coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
>> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>
> Just take an ice cube out of a tray and set it anywhere in the
> freezer. Duh.

I think a cup of water is a better indicator of how long the power's
been out.

nancy

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:44:53 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message ...
>
>>District 10: Gardiner Mines-Dominion
>>
>>Darren Bruckschwaiger was elected with 2,426 votes, topping Brian Shaw
>>(1,266) and former MLA Dave Wilson (669).
>>
>>Wilson had high hopes of a political comeback after he was jailed in 2012
>>for committing fraud in an expense scandal that netted a number of other
>>MLAs as well.On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:35:41 -0400, jmcquown
> wrote:
>
>>Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
>>someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:
>>
>>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6553226&type=3
>>
>>It illustrates the email I got which reads "For those of you that are
>>evacuating from the coast, I just heard a great tip. It's called the one
>>cup tip. You put a cup of water in your freezer. Freeze it solid and
>>then put a quarter on top of it and leave it in your freezer. That way
>>when you come back after you've been evacuated you can tell if your food
>>went completely bad and just refroze or if it stayed Frozen while you
>>were gone. If the quarter has fallen to the bottom of the cup that means
>>all the food defrosted and you should throw it out. But if the quarter
>>is either on the top or in the middle of the cup then your food may
>>still be ok."
>>
>>I had a 10 lb. bag of ice in my freezer. It barely melted. That's
>>pretty much how I knew most of my thawed food was still very cold.
>>
>>I judiciously disposed of seafood and older food items. Some items can
>>be refrozen, perhaps suffering only some texture quality. Frozen
>>vegetables are already cooked so... throwing them out is a judgement call.
>>
>>It's funny how people come up with this stuff. Would you let putting a
>>coin on top of a frozen cup of water tell you if your food was spoiled?
>> Sounds pretty wacky to me.
>>
>>Jill
>
>It may, but it's not. If you have evacuated and do not get to return
>until after the power has returned, how else can you tell that your
>freezer unfroze and refroze - sure sign if the coin is on the bottom.
>Think about it and maybe the light will dawn.
>
>====================
>
>I keep a small plastic bag containing two ice cubes and they live in a top
>baskets in my freezers. If they are melted I know I have a problem.

That would do too.

On 10/16/2016 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Got this tidbit of information passed along on the Dataw Net from
> someone with a Facebook account. Let's see if this link works:
>
> Jill

I have a different method that I have used for used. Put some ice cubes
in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
frozen area at the bottom of the container.

Some time ago, I used a similar process. I put water in the same type
of container and leaned the container against something in the freezer.
That way, the water would freeze on a slant. After it is frozen, store
the container upright. If there is loss of power, the ice will melt and
will be refrozen on the bottom.

MaryL

MaryL wrote:

>Put some ice cubes
>in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>frozen area at the bottom of the container.

Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:30:19 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> MaryL wrote:
>
> >Put some ice cubes
> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>
> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.

"If it has refrozen" suggests that the power is back on and has been
for at least a few hours.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/17/2016 8:29 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> MaryL wrote:
>
>> Put some ice cubes
>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>
> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>
This is not intended only for hurricanes. I *always* keep a container
of ice cubes in the freezer so that I can see if anything has gone wrong
with the freezer. In the case of a hurricane, of course the door should
be kept closed. After power comes back on, this method will be used
after power is restored, and I would be able to tell if food in the
freezer had defrosted while power was off.

MaryL

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:35:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:30:19 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> MaryL wrote:
>>
>> >Put some ice cubes
>> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>
>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>
>"If it has refrozen" suggests that the power is back on and has been
>for at least a few hours.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Did you really want me to respond?

On 10/17/2016 7:11 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:35:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:30:19 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> MaryL wrote:
>>>
>>>> Put some ice cubes
>>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>>
>>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>>
>> "If it has refrozen" suggests that the power is back on and has been
>> for at least a few hours.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Did you really want me to respond?
>

nobody does.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> MaryL wrote:
>
> >Put some ice cubes
> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>
> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.

When my freezer went out recently, I kept it closed the entire time with
large ice blocks inside.
I was here the moment my electricity came back on. I immediately opened
the freezer and fridge to see how the food did before it started getting
cold again. All was fine. I had no loss.

:-D

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> MaryL wrote:
>
> >Put some ice cubes
> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>
> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.

When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
defrosted during the power cut.

Janet UK

On 10/17/2016 9:29 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>


Check this out, Shelly..

https://piv.pivpiv.dk/

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:44:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> MaryL wrote:
>>
>> >Put some ice cubes
>> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>
>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>
>When my freezer went out recently, I kept it closed the entire time with
>large ice blocks inside.

Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
freeze lights will come on. LOL
However when there's a power failure its a good idea to turn off most
lights and unplug TVs and computers, it's not healthy for everything
to slam on in one fell swoop... hopefully the TVs and PCs are on a
power back up so you can power them down normally in case of a sudden
power failure.

>I was here the moment my electricity came back on. I immediately opened
>the freezer and fridge to see how the food did before it started getting
>cold again. All was fine. I had no loss.
>
>:-D

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
> freeze lights will come on. LOL

If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
power comes back on.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/17/2016 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>
> If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
> power comes back on.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


You will need to draw him a picture. No, an entire picture book.

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:06:58 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:44:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> MaryL wrote:
>>>
>>> >Put some ice cubes
>>> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>>> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>>> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>>> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>>> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>>> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>>
>>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>>
>>When my freezer went out recently, I kept it closed the entire time with
>>large ice blocks inside.
>
>Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>freeze lights will come on. LOL
>However when there's a power failure its a good idea to turn off most
>lights and unplug TVs and computers, it's not healthy for everything
>to slam on in one fell swoop... hopefully the TVs and PCs are on a
>power back up so you can power them down normally in case of a sudden
>power failure.
>
>>I was here the moment my electricity came back on. I immediately opened
>>the freezer and fridge to see how the food did before it started getting
>>cold again. All was fine. I had no loss.
>>
>>:-D

You just don't get it
Janet US

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, gravesend10
says...
>>
>> MaryL wrote:
>>
>> >Put some ice cubes
>> >in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>> >keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>> >will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>> >the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>> >it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>> >frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>
>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>
> When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
>from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
>defrosted during the power cut.
>
> Janet UK

That's inane, for one 99.9% of folks have ice cube in their freezer so
why pray tell does one need to add more... and how difficult is it to
check the food for meltage... you'll know just by looking if ice cream
has melted.
Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
(Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
the kazoos.

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:09:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>
>If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
>power comes back on.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Now you're being way beyond inane... schizophrenic!

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:32:14 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 10/17/2016 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>>
>> If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
>> power comes back on.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>You will need to draw him a picture. No, an entire picture book.

I see you're off your meds.
http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/g...ia-medications

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:36:17 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:32:14 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/17/2016 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>>>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>>>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>>>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>>>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>>>
>>> If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
>>> power comes back on.
>>>
>>You will need to draw him a picture. No, an entire picture book.
>
>I see you're off your meds.
>http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/g...ia-medications

Something tells me you don't know what schizophrenia actually is.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:36:17 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:32:14 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/17/2016 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>>>>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>>>>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>>>>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>>>>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>>>>
>>>> If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
>>>> power comes back on.
>>>>
>>>You will need to draw him a picture. No, an entire picture book.
>>
>>I see you're off your meds.
>>http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/g...ia-medications
>
> Something tells me you don't know what schizophrenia actually is.

I'm sure there are some here that could tell him exactly what it is, and
what meds to take for it.

Cheri

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:52:01 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:36:17 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:32:14 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 10/17/2016 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:07:21 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>>>>>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>>>>>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>>>>>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>>>>>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> If you've evacuated, you might not be there when the
>>>>> power comes back on.
>>>>>
>>>>You will need to draw him a picture. No, an entire picture book.
>>>
>>>I see you're off your meds.
>>>http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/g...ia-medications
>>
>> Something tells me you don't know what schizophrenia actually is.
>
>I'm sure there are some here that could tell him exactly what it is, and
>what meds to take for it.

Yes, I can think of one or two names <G>.

On 10/17/2016 12:52 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:06:58 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:44:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> MaryL wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Put some ice cubes
>>>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>>>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>>>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>>>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>>>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>>>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>>>
>>>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>>>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>>>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>>>
>>> When my freezer went out recently, I kept it closed the entire time with
>>> large ice blocks inside.
>>
>> Ice cubes won't help much if at all... as soon as there's a threat of
>> a power outage due to weather put up some extra containers of water to
>> freeze into block ice. It's very silly to use refrozen ice cubes as a
>> gauge to know when power is restored... long befor they begin to
>> freeze lights will come on. LOL
>> However when there's a power failure its a good idea to turn off most
>> lights and unplug TVs and computers, it's not healthy for everything
>> to slam on in one fell swoop... hopefully the TVs and PCs are on a
>> power back up so you can power them down normally in case of a sudden
>> power failure.
>>
>>> I was here the moment my electricity came back on. I immediately opened
>>> the freezer and fridge to see how the food did before it started getting
>>> cold again. All was fine. I had no loss.
>>>
>>> :-D
>
> You just don't get it
> Janet US
>


He has good days, and bad.

On 10/17/2016 3:26 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, gravesend10
>> @verizon.net says...
>>>
>>> MaryL wrote:
>>>
>>>> Put some ice cubes
>>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>>
>>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>>
>> When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
>>from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
>> defrosted during the power cut.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> That's inane, for one 99.9% of folks have ice cube in their freezer so
> why pray tell does one need to add more... and how difficult is it to
> check the food for meltage... you'll know just by looking if ice cream
> has melted.
> Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
> I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
> I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
> returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
> olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
> wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
> Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
> (Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
> cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
> had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
> damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
> have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
> the kazoos.
>
Has it occurred to you that many people will have evacuated (and there
are still other occasions when people may be on vacation for extended
periods of time)? By the time they return, food will have refrozen, so
it is important to know if food was thawed. And forgot about ice cubes
in the freezer. I do have ice cubes in the freezer that is part of my
refrigerator, but many of us also have a separate freezer that we use
just for food storage.

MaryL

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:10 AM UTC-4, MaryL wrote:
> On 10/17/2016 3:26 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >, gravesend10
> >> @verizon.net says...
> >>>
> >>> MaryL wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Put some ice cubes
> >>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
> >>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
> >>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
> >>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
> >>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
> >>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
> >>>
> >>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> >>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> >>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
> >>
> >> When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
> >>from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
> >> defrosted during the power cut.
> >>
> >> Janet UK
> >
> > That's inane, for one 99.9% of folks have ice cube in their freezer so
> > why pray tell does one need to add more... and how difficult is it to
> > check the food for meltage... you'll know just by looking if ice cream
> > has melted.
> > Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
> > I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
> > I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
> > returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
> > olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
> > wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
> > Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
> > (Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
> > cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
> > had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
> > damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
> > have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
> > the kazoos.
> >
> Has it occurred to you that many people will have evacuated (and there
> are still other occasions when people may be on vacation for extended
> periods of time)? By the time they return, food will have refrozen, so
> it is important to know if food was thawed. And forgot about ice cubes
> in the freezer. I do have ice cubes in the freezer that is part of my
> refrigerator, but many of us also have a separate freezer that we use
> just for food storage.
>
> MaryL

I think the problem here is that we've all written "you". Such as,
"When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer".
Sheldon can't tell that we're using the modern, informal construction
of using "you" where in the past a writer would use "one":
"When the power comes back on, and one opens the freezer".

He thinks we're talking about him specifically.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/20/2016 3:33 AM, MaryL wrote:
> On 10/17/2016 3:26 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
>> I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
>> I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
>> returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
>> olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
>> wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
>> Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
>> (Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
>> cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
>> had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
>> damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
>> have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
>> the kazoos.
>>
> Has it occurred to you that many people will have evacuated (and there
> are still other occasions when people may be on vacation for extended
> periods of time)? By the time they return, food will have refrozen, so
> it is important to know if food was thawed. And forgot about ice cubes
> in the freezer. I do have ice cubes in the freezer that is part of my
> refrigerator, but many of us also have a separate freezer that we use
> just for food storage.
>
> MaryL
>
Now that you put it that way, Mary, a coin set on a cup of frozen water
makes sense as a "test". Mea Culpa.

I have a small separate stand-alone freezer. As for grilling, yes, I
did that. Even in a power outage ya' gotta eat! But since nearly
everyone else evacuated... sorry, there was no giant cookout with the
neighbors. LOL

Jill

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I think the problem here is that we've all written "you". Such as,
> "When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer".
> Sheldon can't tell that we're using the modern, informal construction
> of using "you" where in the past a writer would use "one":
> "When the power comes back on, and one opens the freezer".
>
> He thinks we're talking about him specifically.

Should I draw him a map? ;-D

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I have a small separate stand-alone freezer. As for grilling, yes, I
> did that. Even in a power outage ya' gotta eat! But since nearly
> everyone else evacuated... sorry, there was no giant cookout with the
> neighbors. LOL

I have a question for you, Jill. You talked about decorating your house
for Halloween with the eyes in the bushes..... I'm wondering if you
decorate for the hell of it, or do you actually get any kids coming
around doing the Trick-or-Treat thing that might appreciate such a
thing.

Sounds like you live in a mostly retired community, plus many places
there are more like a second vacation home, and not the primary
residence. Are there young families living there with small kids? Or is
it just Grandparents living there occasionally?

It's also a gated community that charges workers admission. Sounds like
other kids can't just come into your area to trick or treat.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 02:33:02 -0500, MaryL
> wrote:

>On 10/17/2016 3:26 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, gravesend10
>>> @verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>> MaryL wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Put some ice cubes
>>>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>>>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>>>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>>>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>>>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>>>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>>>>
>>>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>>>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>>>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>>>
>>> When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
>>>from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
>>> defrosted during the power cut.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> That's inane, for one 99.9% of folks have ice cube in their freezer so
>> why pray tell does one need to add more... and how difficult is it to
>> check the food for meltage... you'll know just by looking if ice cream
>> has melted.
>> Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
>> I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
>> I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
>> returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
>> olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
>> wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
>> Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
>> (Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
>> cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
>> had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
>> damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
>> have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
>> the kazoos.
>>
>Has it occurred to you that many people will have evacuated (and there
>are still other occasions when people may be on vacation for extended
>periods of time)? By the time they return, food will have refrozen, so
>it is important to know if food was thawed. And forgot about ice cubes
>in the freezer. I do have ice cubes in the freezer that is part of my
>refrigerator, but many of us also have a separate freezer that we use
>just for food storage.
>
>MaryL

Anyone with a large freezer full of food who leaves home for extended
periods needs a sensor in their freezer that records temperature,
battery operated. There are also battery operated sensors that will
phone you when a power outage is detected. I have a temperature
sensor that when the temperature inside my rental house droped below
freezing turns on a lamp with a bright red bulb that I can see from my
house... I no longer have that rental... the point is that in this
high tech age there are electronic devices for detecting most
anything... for a few dollars more I could have bought a temperature
sesosr that would phone me,, that's what supermarkets have for their
freezers, abd heating systems, they alert the service company.
In any event anyone who leaves home often for extended periods who
keeps a fully loaded freezer has a walnut sized brain. Anyone who
lives within 20 miles of a supermarket has no reason to own a separate
freezer, not unless they went hungry as a child and are paranoid about
not having enough food. I don't keep much frozen food, I rely on my
local supermarket's freezer. It 's also stupid to stock a freezer
with pricey meat cuts, as soon as a steak is frozen it drops two USDA
grades... in US supermarkets there are steaks on sale every day... if
you ordered steak at a restaurant would you accept one that's been
previously frozen, I wouldn't.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 03:44:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:10 AM UTC-4, MaryL wrote:
>> On 10/17/2016 3:26 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article >, gravesend10
>> >> @verizon.net says...
>> >>>
>> >>> MaryL wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Put some ice cubes
>> >>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
>> >>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
>> >>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
>> >>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
>> >>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
>> >>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
>> >>>
>> >>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
>> >>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
>> >>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
>> >>
>> >> When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
>> >>from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
>> >> defrosted during the power cut.
>> >>
>> >> Janet UK
>> >
>> > That's inane, for one 99.9% of folks have ice cube in their freezer so
>> > why pray tell does one need to add more... and how difficult is it to
>> > check the food for meltage... you'll know just by looking if ice cream
>> > has melted.
>> > Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
>> > I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
>> > I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
>> > returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
>> > olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
>> > wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
>> > Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
>> > (Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
>> > cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
>> > had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
>> > damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
>> > have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
>> > the kazoos.
>> >
>> Has it occurred to you that many people will have evacuated (and there
>> are still other occasions when people may be on vacation for extended
>> periods of time)? By the time they return, food will have refrozen, so
>> it is important to know if food was thawed. And forgot about ice cubes
>> in the freezer. I do have ice cubes in the freezer that is part of my
>> refrigerator, but many of us also have a separate freezer that we use
>> just for food storage.
>>
>> MaryL
>
>I think the problem here is that we've all written "you". Such as,
>"When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer".
>Sheldon can't tell that we're using the modern, informal construction
>of using "you" where in the past a writer would use "one":
>"When the power comes back on, and one opens the freezer".
>
>He thinks we're talking about him specifically.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Actually it was MY reply that was addressed... so yoose are in fact
tawking about moi... learn to read for comprehension.

On 10/20/2016 11:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I have a small separate stand-alone freezer. As for grilling, yes, I
>> did that. Even in a power outage ya' gotta eat! But since nearly
>> everyone else evacuated... sorry, there was no giant cookout with the
>> neighbors. LOL
>
> I have a question for you, Jill. You talked about decorating your house
> for Halloween with the eyes in the bushes..... I'm wondering if you
> decorate for the hell of it, or do you actually get any kids coming
> around doing the Trick-or-Treat thing that might appreciate such a
> thing.
>
No kids or trick or treating. I decorate for the fun of it. Some
people light up their homes for Christmas. Me, I decorate the bushes
out front for Halloween with blinking eyeballs.

> Sounds like you live in a mostly retired community, plus many places
> there are more like a second vacation home, and not the primary
> residence. Are there young families living there with small kids? Or is
> it just Grandparents living there occasionally?
>
> It's also a gated community that charges workers admission.

Contractors who do regular business on the island pay $145 a year for an
electronic gate pass. (It's to help pay for wear and tear on the
streets). If they don't do enough regular work here to warrant paying
for the transpoder, they pay a $10 gate fee and pass that fee onto the
resident requiring their service. Exceptions to the gate fees are
medical personnel/home health care workers. No, kids cannot just come
onto Dataw to go trick or treating. Nor would they want to.

Without a pass, a transponder or a resident's permission, they don't let
anyone on the island. Heck, when I went home to get my car, my cat
Persia (got her out of kitty jail after months of being boarded!) and
some extra clothes, my mother had to call the gate ahead of time to tell
them to let me in.

Jill

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 11:20:33 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I have a small separate stand-alone freezer. As for grilling, yes, I
> > did that. Even in a power outage ya' gotta eat! But since nearly
> > everyone else evacuated... sorry, there was no giant cookout with the
> > neighbors. LOL
>
> I have a question for you, Jill. You talked about decorating your house
> for Halloween with the eyes in the bushes..... I'm wondering if you
> decorate for the hell of it, or do you actually get any kids coming
> around doing the Trick-or-Treat thing that might appreciate such a
> thing.
>
> Sounds like you live in a mostly retired community, plus many places
> there are more like a second vacation home, and not the primary
> residence. Are there young families living there with small kids? Or is
> it just Grandparents living there occasionally?
>
> It's also a gated community that charges workers admission. Sounds like
> other kids can't just come into your area to trick or treat.

Might as well ask why I put up a Christmas tree, since I never
had any children and I'm an atheist. She probably decorates
to suit her own sense of whimsy.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 11:28:43 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 03:44:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:10 AM UTC-4, MaryL wrote:
> >> On 10/17/2016 3:26 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article >, gravesend10
> >> >> @verizon.net says...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> MaryL wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Put some ice cubes
> >> >>>> in a covered container. I like to use a see-through container that I
> >> >>>> keep on the top shelf of the freezer so I can easily see it. The ice
> >> >>>> will melt if power has been lost for a significant amount of time. If
> >> >>>> the ice has remained frozen as ice cubes, then there is no problem. If
> >> >>>> it has refrozen, it will not appear as ice cubes; it will just be a
> >> >>>> frozen area at the bottom of the container.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Unless your freezer has a glass see-thru door your method is self
> >> >>> defeating... the worst thing you can do during a power outage is to
> >> >>> open the fridge/freezer door however briefly.
> >> >>
> >> >> When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer, you can tell
> >> >>from the water or sacrificial icecubes, whether the contents had
> >> >> defrosted during the power cut.
> >> >>
> >> >> Janet UK
> >> >
> >> > That's inane, for one 99.9% of folks have ice cube in their freezer so
> >> > why pray tell does one need to add more... and how difficult is it to
> >> > check the food for meltage... you'll know just by looking if ice cream
> >> > has melted.
> >> > Anyway if power is not back by day three if I didn't have gas cooking
> >> > I'd light the grill and start cooking the most pricey foods first...
> >> > I'd probably start up my 24 quart pot for stone soup. When the power
> >> > returns stone soup can be frozen and you've lost nothing. In the
> >> > olden days before refrigeration stoups could be kept going on ye ole
> >> > wood stove all winter. I've been through several hurricanes on Lung
> >> > Guyland and been without power for days, once even eleven days
> >> > (Gloria), everyone lit off their outside grill and we had a giant
> >> > cookout, was so much food we couldn't eat it all but everyone's pets
> >> > had a feast... better than it spoiled. I discovered there were some
> >> > damned good stew burners living closeby. Lung Guylanders typically
> >> > have a freezer full of seafood, there was chowder and bouillabaisse up
> >> > the kazoos.
> >> >
> >> Has it occurred to you that many people will have evacuated (and there
> >> are still other occasions when people may be on vacation for extended
> >> periods of time)? By the time they return, food will have refrozen, so
> >> it is important to know if food was thawed. And forgot about ice cubes
> >> in the freezer. I do have ice cubes in the freezer that is part of my
> >> refrigerator, but many of us also have a separate freezer that we use
> >> just for food storage.
> >>
> >> MaryL
> >
> >I think the problem here is that we've all written "you". Such as,
> >"When the power comes back on, and you open the freezer".
> >Sheldon can't tell that we're using the modern, informal construction
> >of using "you" where in the past a writer would use "one":
> >"When the power comes back on, and one opens the freezer".
> >
> >He thinks we're talking about him specifically.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> Actually it was MY reply that was addressed... so yoose are in fact
> tawking about moi... learn to read for comprehension.

I was, in fact, fully aware that I was talking about tu.

Cindy Hamilton

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Without a pass, a transponder or a resident's permission, they don't let
> anyone on the island. Heck, when I went home to get my car, my cat
> Persia (got her out of kitty jail after months of being boarded!) and
> some extra clothes, my mother had to call the gate ahead of time to tell
> them to let me in.

Why was Persia boarded for months? WHAT??? Just wondering.
I've worked in many gated communities but I've never heard of
any so strict as yours. WTH? None have ever charged admission...
just a resident giving permission to come in for the day.

How about guests for the night or the weekend? Charge them too for
wear and tear on the roads? wow.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 11:20:33 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a small separate stand-alone freezer. As for grilling, yes, I
> > > did that. Even in a power outage ya' gotta eat! But since nearly
> > > everyone else evacuated... sorry, there was no giant cookout with the
> > > neighbors. LOL
> >
> > I have a question for you, Jill. You talked about decorating your house
> > for Halloween with the eyes in the bushes..... I'm wondering if you
> > decorate for the hell of it, or do you actually get any kids coming
> > around doing the Trick-or-Treat thing that might appreciate such a
> > thing.
> >
> > Sounds like you live in a mostly retired community, plus many places
> > there are more like a second vacation home, and not the primary
> > residence. Are there young families living there with small kids? Or is
> > it just Grandparents living there occasionally?
> >
> > It's also a gated community that charges workers admission. Sounds like
> > other kids can't just come into your area to trick or treat.
>
> Might as well ask why I put up a Christmas tree, since I never
> had any children and I'm an atheist. She probably decorates
> to suit her own sense of whimsy.


Back when my daughter was young, we always put up a Christmas tree.
Bought it the day after Thanksgiving. It was a tradition for years. At
the time, I couldn't imagine anyone not doing that and celebrating the
season.

Now that I live alone, I don't bother. Why should I? Damn...I've turned
old!

PS - If my grandchildren ever come for Christmas, I will buy a tree and
decorate it. And put some wrapped presents for them under the tree. The
whole tree thing is for kids and I do support that. Me here alone, not
going to bother.

The last time I bought a tree, it was for the ferrets to play with. They
loved it...climbing up and knocking off all the ornaments. They even
liked to sleep underneath it. heheh