In article >, sf
> wrote:

> Equate it with the state called Nevada (the correct way) and NeVAHda
> (completely wrong).

Amen sister. Testify! It ****es me, and everyone else born here, off
when my State is pronounced NeVAHda. But that's the case. I can't
escape it. National politicians are schooled on how to say Nevada.
Now let's talk about 'Frisco. <double winkey>

leo

In article > , Bruce
> wrote:

> I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
> twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
> away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
> become the right way for Americans.

As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
state. Most do.
Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.

Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
there to annoy you?

leo

In article >, Leonard
Blaisdell says...
>
> In article > , Bruce
> > wrote:
>
> > I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
> > twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
> > away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
> > become the right way for Americans.
>
> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
> state. Most do.
> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
>
> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
> there to annoy you?

I'm not denying that Nevahdans say Nevada. I'm sure they do. They're
collectively wrong. That includes you.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 16:10:09 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Leonard
>Blaisdell says...
>>
>> In article > , Bruce
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
>> > twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
>> > away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
>> > become the right way for Americans.
>>
>> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
>> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
>> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
>> state. Most do.
>> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
>> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
>>
>> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
>> there to annoy you?
>
>I'm not denying that Nevahdans say Nevada. I'm sure they do. They're
>collectively wrong. That includes you.

They may possibly be technically wrong (not that I could care less
enough to check) but all that counts is how it's pronounced locally.

In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 16:10:09 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Leonard
> >Blaisdell says...
> >>
> >> In article > , Bruce
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
> >> > twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
> >> > away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
> >> > become the right way for Americans.
> >>
> >> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
> >> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
> >> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
> >> state. Most do.
> >> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
> >> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
> >>
> >> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
> >> there to annoy you?
> >
> >I'm not denying that Nevahdans say Nevada. I'm sure they do. They're
> >collectively wrong. That includes you.
>
> They may possibly be technically wrong (not that I could care less
> enough to check) but all that counts is how it's pronounced locally.

Hey, I'm backed up by the next Leader of the Free World:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfPyLYl0ax8&t=0m31s

"Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
...

In article > , Bruce
> wrote:

> I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
> twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
> away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
> become the right way for Americans.

As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
state. Most do.
Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.

Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
there to annoy you?

leo

================

But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
so long as I can understand what they mean.

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In article >, Ophelia
> wrote:

> But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> so long as I can understand what they mean.

I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
to properly pronounce my State. If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
from anywhere near here stranger.
I'll bet there are more than a few villages in the UK that would take
umbrage when a stranger/politician/reporter mispronounced the village
name. Now let's expand what they think to a whole U.S. State. That's
us.
I could cause Wales to revolt if I reported on them for the BBC.
Cwmystwyth, seriously? How hard is Nevada?
Nailed it!

leo

In article >, Leonard
Blaisdell says...
>
> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> > so long as I can understand what they mean.
>
> I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> to properly pronounce my State.

Do you get teary eyed when you say 'my State'?

> If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> from anywhere near here stranger.

You got that right, buster!

"Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
...

In article >, Ophelia
> wrote:

> But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> things
> so long as I can understand what they mean.

I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
to properly pronounce my State. If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
from anywhere near here stranger.


Are strangers so unwelcome?


I'll bet there are more than a few villages in the UK that would take
umbrage when a stranger/politician/reporter mispronounced the village
name. Now let's expand what they think to a whole U.S. State. That's
us.

Maybe, but not that I am particularly aware of. Everyone
is suspicious of strangers of course, but so what? It seems a bit harsh to
to treat them in such a way if they can't pronounce your state (or anything
else) the way you prefer.


I could cause Wales to revolt if I reported on them for the BBC.
Cwmystwyth, seriously? How hard is Nevada?
Nailed it!

leo

Sorry, Leo. I just don't get it. Do you despise me because I
am a stranger? You are making me start to think now, is that a regular way
to think among the people here?? Is that why some here like to put me
down???

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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, Leonard
Blaisdell says...
>
> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> > things
> > so long as I can understand what they mean.
>
> I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> to properly pronounce my State.

Do you get teary eyed when you say 'my State'?

> If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> from anywhere near here stranger.

You got that right, buster!

==============

It just occurred to me. Is it a parochial thing? Maybe many Brits are like
that. I don't know. I have lived nearly all my life in countries away from
my original home. Perhaps that is the difference. I can only speculate.

My likes and dislikes depend on how I am treated. No other reason.

There are many people here that I really like, but it has nothing to do with
where they live.



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On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:30:06 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> > so long as I can understand what they mean.
>
> I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> to properly pronounce my State. If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> from anywhere near here stranger.

Um, yes. I'm not from anywhere near Nevada (which I tend to
pronounce the way you do.) So what? Is there something wrong
with strangers? (Incidentally, why are the first 'a' in that
word and the second 'a' pronounced differently?)

Let's take the Detroit street called Gratiot. How would you
pronounce that? Should I take umbrage if you get it wrong?

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> Let's take the Detroit street called Gratiot. How would you
> pronounce that? Should I take umbrage if you get it wrong?

You bet! So I won't try. Gotta hear it once from a native. Once I hear
it, I'll do my best to say it like they do. How 'bout you?

leo

On 11/3/2016 8:53 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says..

>> I really should try them. All I know is don't twist the cutter,
>> just like with biscuits. I won't be making them in the immediate
>> future (small hand injury) but I'll set a reminder. I like raisins,
>> is that a common ingredient?
>
> just add some to this recipe
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/tea_time_scones_77839
>
> Do you have a recipe that you would
>> share? You know, the easy one from early school cookery days. heh
>
> The first we ever made, and still my favourite, is cheese scones
> (goes well with soup).
>
> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/346/s...se-scones.aspx

I love the cheese biscuits, I'm sure these are good. Thanks for
the recipes.

Speaking of language, some people here used to call them receipts.
That's a word that doesn't mean the same here as it does to some
people.

nancy

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2016 8:53 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says..

>> I really should try them. All I know is don't twist the cutter,
>> just like with biscuits. I won't be making them in the immediate
>> future (small hand injury) but I'll set a reminder. I like raisins,
>> is that a common ingredient?
>
> just add some to this recipe
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/tea_time_scones_77839
>
> Do you have a recipe that you would
>> share? You know, the easy one from early school cookery days. heh
>
> The first we ever made, and still my favourite, is cheese scones
> (goes well with soup).
>
> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/346/s...se-scones.aspx

I love the cheese biscuits, I'm sure these are good. Thanks for
the recipes.

Speaking of language, some people here used to call them receipts.
That's a word that doesn't mean the same here as it does to some
people.

nancy

=================

In the old days recipes were called receipts I never hear it now though



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On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 7:42:37 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >,
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> > Let's take the Detroit street called Gratiot. How would you
> > pronounce that? Should I take umbrage if you get it wrong?
>
> You bet! So I won't try. Gotta hear it once from a native. Once I hear
> it, I'll do my best to say it like they do. How 'bout you?

Of course, whenever possible. I reserve the right to mispronounce,
for example, Chinese place names because the language centers of
my brain developed strictly in English.

Incidentally, it's pronounce Gra-shit. Or the 'i' in the second
syllable ends up as a schwa (as so many vowels do in spoken American
English). The first syllable rhymes with the second syllable of
Nevada

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/4/2016 11:04 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article > , Bruce
> > wrote:
>
>> I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
>> twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
>> away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
>> become the right way for Americans.
>
> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
> state. Most do.
> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
>
> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
> there to annoy you?
>
> leo
>
Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
Graham

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 12:44:14 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 11/4/2016 11:04 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > In article > , Bruce
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
> >> twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
> >> away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
> >> become the right way for Americans.
> >
> > As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
> > born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
> > wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
> > state. Most do.
> > Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
> > at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
> >
> > Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
> > there to annoy you?
> >
> > leo
> >
> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
> Graham

Paris cathedral: Notra Dahm (but that 'a' is more of a schwa)
Indiana university: Noter Dame
Hunchback of: depends who I'm talking to

Cindy Hamilton

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
> ...
>
> In article > , Bruce
> > wrote:
>
>> I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
>> twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
>> away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
>> become the right way for Americans.
>
> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
> state. Most do.
> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
>
> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
> there to annoy you?
>
> leo
>
> ================
>
> But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> things so long as I can understand what they mean.

I agree, same with spelling etc. If I can read it or understand it, who
cares. Believe it or not, it's the world wide net and people pronounce and
spell things differently all over the world, sort of like New Yorkers
getting upset that tourists pronounce Houston Street as *Hughston* instead
of *Howston.* Just be glad you have tourists bringing dollars to your city,
state, country, whatever. IMO.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> graham wrote:
>>
>> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
>
> I've always pronounced it as Notra Dom. How about you?

Me, I say *Noter Dame,* never had anyone not know what I'm talking about. I
also pronounce Wednesday as Wensday...so shoot me.

Cheri

graham wrote:
>
> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?

I've always pronounced it as Notra Dom. How about you?

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 11:37:02 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > graham wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
> >
> > I've always pronounced it as Notra Dom. How about you?
>
> Me, I say *Noter Dame,* never had anyone not know what I'm talking about. I
> also pronounce Wednesday as Wensday...so shoot me.
>
> Cheri

Nearly everyone that I know pronounces Wednesday as WENDsday including myself.
Why they don't just change the spelling to conform to the spoken form is beyond me. Just another anomaly of the English language I guess and we'll have to just accept that fact.
======

In article >, Ophelia says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, Leonard
> Blaisdell says...
> >
> > In article >, Ophelia
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> > > things
> > > so long as I can understand what they mean.
> >
> > I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> > to properly pronounce my State.
>
> Do you get teary eyed when you say 'my State'?
>
> > If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> > from anywhere near here stranger.
>
> You got that right, buster!
>
> ==============
>
> It just occurred to me. Is it a parochial thing? Maybe many Brits are like
> that. I don't know. I have lived nearly all my life in countries away from
> my original home. Perhaps that is the difference. I can only speculate.
>
> My likes and dislikes depend on how I am treated. No other reason.
>
> There are many people here that I really like, but it has nothing to do with
> where they live.

I agree. And if they say Australia backward, that's ok too I was just
rattling their cage a bit.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 11:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >, sf says...
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 06:06:09 +1100, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >, sf says...
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 03:52:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Scones aren't biscuits. If Delia is to be believed, scones
> > > > > have a small amount of sugar and are shortened with butter.
> > > > > <http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/international/european/british/plain-scones>
> > > >
> > > > Gah. I hate the way British recipes are formatted. Hasn't anyone
> > > > ever told them we read English left to right, not right to left? A
> > > > better placement for the Ingredient List is on the left, but top
> > > > placed is best. That way no one has to hunt for it.
> > >
> > > You're just looking for a problem. That format is fine. My "hunt" for
> > > the ingredient list consisted of a light touch of the mouse wheel.
> >
> > What are you reading it on, a postage stamp?
>
> On a full size monitor. One click on the vertical scroll bar and I see
> the ingredient list.

I didn't need to scroll. The Ingredient List is on the wrong side.
That's all.


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On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 03:30:00 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> > so long as I can understand what they mean.
>
> I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> to properly pronounce my State.

Yet they get their knickers in a twist when Americans mix up United
Kingdom, Great Britain, and British Isles.

> If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> from anywhere near here stranger.

Yep.

> I'll bet there are more than a few villages in the UK that would take
> umbrage when a stranger/politician/reporter mispronounced the village
> name. Now let's expand what they think to a whole U.S. State. That's
> us.

They're great at telling other people what to do, but bad at following
their own advice.

> I could cause Wales to revolt if I reported on them for the BBC.
> Cwmystwyth, seriously? How hard is Nevada?
> Nailed it!
>
> leo



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On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 10:42:50 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> "Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
> ...
>
> In article >, Ophelia
> > wrote:
>
> > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> > things
> > so long as I can understand what they mean.
>
> I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> to properly pronounce my State. If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> from anywhere near here stranger.
>
>
> Are strangers so unwelcome?
>
>
> I'll bet there are more than a few villages in the UK that would take
> umbrage when a stranger/politician/reporter mispronounced the village
> name. Now let's expand what they think to a whole U.S. State. That's
> us.
>
> Maybe, but not that I am particularly aware of. Everyone
> is suspicious of strangers of course, but so what? It seems a bit harsh to
> to treat them in such a way if they can't pronounce your state (or anything
> else) the way you prefer.
>
>
> I could cause Wales to revolt if I reported on them for the BBC.
> Cwmystwyth, seriously? How hard is Nevada?
> Nailed it!
>
> leo
>
> Sorry, Leo. I just don't get it. Do you despise me because I
> am a stranger? You are making me start to think now, is that a regular way
> to think among the people here?? Is that why some here like to put me
> down???

What is wrong with you?


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On 2016-11-05 1:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Paris cathedral: Notra Dahm (but that 'a' is more of a schwa)
> Indiana university: Noter Dame
> Hunchback of: depends who I'm talking to
>
A nearby city has a high enough French population that it has been
designated as a bilingual district, and the Catholic school board
runs a high school called Notre Dame. I have never hear it called
anything but Noter Dame. Despite the frequency that I hear French spoken
and the number of French Canadians I know there, I have never heard it
said with the French pronunciation.

On 2016-11-05 2:07 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 11:37:02 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>> graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
>>>
>>> I've always pronounced it as Notra Dom. How about you?
>>
>> Me, I say *Noter Dame,* never had anyone not know what I'm talking about. I
>> also pronounce Wednesday as Wensday...so shoot me.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Nearly everyone that I know pronounces Wednesday as WENDsday including myself.
> Why they don't just change the spelling to conform to the spoken form is beyond me. Just another anomaly of the English language I guess and we'll have to just accept that fact.
>

Sure. It would be so much easier to change all the dictionaries,
calendars and every other source of writing to conform to the ebonics
version of the word than for you and your clan to learn to pronounce it
correctly.

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Leonard Blaisdell" wrote in message
> ...
>
> In article > , Bruce
> > wrote:
>
>> I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
>> twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
>> away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
>> become the right way for Americans.
>
> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
> state. Most do.
> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
>
> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
> there to annoy you?
>
> leo
>
> ================
>
> But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> things so long as I can understand what they mean.

I agree, same with spelling etc. If I can read it or understand it, who
cares. Believe it or not, it's the world wide net and people pronounce and
spell things differently all over the world, sort of like New Yorkers
getting upset that tourists pronounce Houston Street as *Hughston* instead
of *Howston.* Just be glad you have tourists bringing dollars to your city,
state, country, whatever. IMO.

Cheri

=============

Thanks, Cheri. I was starting to worry it was just me


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"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> graham wrote:
>>
>> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
>
> I've always pronounced it as Notra Dom. How about you?

Me, I say *Noter Dame,* never had anyone not know what I'm talking about. I
also pronounce Wednesday as Wensday...so shoot me.

Cheri

========================

Go girl)

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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, Ophelia says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, Leonard
> Blaisdell says...
> >
> > In article >, Ophelia
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> > > things
> > > so long as I can understand what they mean.
> >
> > I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> > to properly pronounce my State.
>
> Do you get teary eyed when you say 'my State'?
>
> > If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> > from anywhere near here stranger.
>
> You got that right, buster!
>
> ==============
>
> It just occurred to me. Is it a parochial thing? Maybe many Brits are
> like
> that. I don't know. I have lived nearly all my life in countries away
> from
> my original home. Perhaps that is the difference. I can only speculate.
>
> My likes and dislikes depend on how I am treated. No other reason.
>
> There are many people here that I really like, but it has nothing to do
> with
> where they live.

I agree. And if they say Australia backward, that's ok too I was just
rattling their cage a bit.

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In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 11:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> > In article >, sf says...
> > >
> > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 06:06:09 +1100, Bruce >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article >, sf says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 03:52:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Scones aren't biscuits. If Delia is to be believed, scones
> > > > > > have a small amount of sugar and are shortened with butter.
> > > > > > <http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/international/european/british/plain-scones>
> > > > >
> > > > > Gah. I hate the way British recipes are formatted. Hasn't anyone
> > > > > ever told them we read English left to right, not right to left? A
> > > > > better placement for the Ingredient List is on the left, but top
> > > > > placed is best. That way no one has to hunt for it.
> > > >
> > > > You're just looking for a problem. That format is fine. My "hunt" for
> > > > the ingredient list consisted of a light touch of the mouse wheel.
> > >
> > > What are you reading it on, a postage stamp?
> >
> > On a full size monitor. One click on the vertical scroll bar and I see
> > the ingredient list.
>
> I didn't need to scroll. The Ingredient List is on the wrong side.
> That's all.

I don't care where they put the ingredient list, but I wish they
wouldn't be driving on the wrong side of the road! It's bloody
dangerous!

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 03:55:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:30:06 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > In article >, Ophelia
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> > > so long as I can understand what they mean.
> >
> > I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> > to properly pronounce my State. If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> > from anywhere near here stranger.
>
> Um, yes. I'm not from anywhere near Nevada (which I tend to
> pronounce the way you do.) So what? Is there something wrong
> with strangers? (Incidentally, why are the first 'a' in that
> word and the second 'a' pronounced differently?)
>
> Let's take the Detroit street called Gratiot. How would you
> pronounce that?

We have a street that's spelled Gough and pronounced Goff, not Go.
Calling it Go signals that you're not a local.

> Should I take umbrage if you get it wrong?
>
Why? You're "not from here". The problem arises when outsiders
insist they are right and tell the locals they are wrong, after being
informed about the correct local pronunciation. I guess you missed it
when Donald Trump tried to tell Nevada residents how to pronounce the
name of their state a few days ago. He wasn't ignorant, he was
arrogant.


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In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 03:30:00 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >, Ophelia
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> > > so long as I can understand what they mean.
> >
> > I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> > to properly pronounce my State.
>
> Yet they get their knickers in a twist when Americans mix up United
> Kingdom, Great Britain, and British Isles.

Are you comparing getting the name of an entire country wrong to
pronouncing the name of a fly-over state differently? (With all due
respect to fly-over people.)

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 3:29:31 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 03:55:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:30:06 AM UTC-4, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > > In article >, Ophelia
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce things
> > > > so long as I can understand what they mean.
> > >
> > > I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> > > to properly pronounce my State. If you pronounce it wrong, you ain't
> > > from anywhere near here stranger.
> >
> > Um, yes. I'm not from anywhere near Nevada (which I tend to
> > pronounce the way you do.) So what? Is there something wrong
> > with strangers? (Incidentally, why are the first 'a' in that
> > word and the second 'a' pronounced differently?)
> >
> > Let's take the Detroit street called Gratiot. How would you
> > pronounce that?
>
> We have a street that's spelled Gough and pronounced Goff, not Go.
> Calling it Go signals that you're not a local.
>
> > Should I take umbrage if you get it wrong?
> >
> Why? You're "not from here". The problem arises when outsiders
> insist they are right and tell the locals they are wrong, after being
> informed about the correct local pronunciation. I guess you missed it
> when Donald Trump tried to tell Nevada residents how to pronounce the
> name of their state a few days ago. He wasn't ignorant, he was
> arrogant.

Yes, I missed it. I pay less attention to Donald Trump than I
pay to dryer lint.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 21:37:32 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

> In article >, sf
> > wrote:
>
> > Equate it with the state called Nevada (the correct way) and NeVAHda
> > (completely wrong).
>
> Amen sister. Testify! It ****es me, and everyone else born here, off
> when my State is pronounced NeVAHda. But that's the case. I can't
> escape it. National politicians are schooled on how to say Nevada.
> Now let's talk about 'Frisco. <double winkey>
>



Don't get me started about the people who put "the" in front of
highway numbers. That's sooo Southern California. Ugh! We drive on
101, not The 101. Also - they might call their region SoCal, but we
are Northern California. I talk back to the TV whenever a
news/weather caster, TV personality pulls one of those boners.





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In article >, sf says...
>
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 21:37:32 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >, sf
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Equate it with the state called Nevada (the correct way) and NeVAHda
> > > (completely wrong).
> >
> > Amen sister. Testify! It ****es me, and everyone else born here, off
> > when my State is pronounced NeVAHda. But that's the case. I can't
> > escape it. National politicians are schooled on how to say Nevada.
> > Now let's talk about 'Frisco. <double winkey>
> >
>
>
>
> Don't get me started about the people who put "the" in front of
> highway numbers. That's sooo Southern California. Ugh! We drive on
> 101, not The 101.

May you never have bigger problems than this!

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 03:30:00 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >, Ophelia
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > But why does it annoy you so much? I don't care how people pronounce
> > > things
> > > so long as I can understand what they mean.
> >
> > I don't know why. It's illogical but it's a fact. There's only one way
> > to properly pronounce my State.
>
> Yet they get their knickers in a twist when Americans mix up United
> Kingdom, Great Britain, and British Isles.

Are you comparing getting the name of an entire country wrong to
pronouncing the name of a fly-over state differently? (With all due
respect to fly-over people.)

=================

I have explained the difference many times if they ask, but I don't care if
they get it right or wrong .... why would I ?? )

Don't you love when they make things up to appear downtrodden ??? LOL It
matters not a jot to me)))

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"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 11:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> > In article >, sf says...
> > >
> > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 06:06:09 +1100, Bruce >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article >, sf says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 03:52:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Scones aren't biscuits. If Delia is to be believed, scones
> > > > > > have a small amount of sugar and are shortened with butter.
> > > > > > <http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/international/european/british/plain-scones>
> > > > >
> > > > > Gah. I hate the way British recipes are formatted. Hasn't anyone
> > > > > ever told them we read English left to right, not right to left?
> > > > > A
> > > > > better placement for the Ingredient List is on the left, but top
> > > > > placed is best. That way no one has to hunt for it.
> > > >
> > > > You're just looking for a problem. That format is fine. My "hunt"
> > > > for
> > > > the ingredient list consisted of a light touch of the mouse wheel.
> > >
> > > What are you reading it on, a postage stamp?
> >
> > On a full size monitor. One click on the vertical scroll bar and I see
> > the ingredient list.
>
> I didn't need to scroll. The Ingredient List is on the wrong side.
> That's all.

I don't care where they put the ingredient list, but I wish they
wouldn't be driving on the wrong side of the road! It's bloody
dangerous!

===========

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On 11/5/2016 11:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> graham wrote:
>>
>> Do you mispronounce "Notre Dame" as most USians do?
>
> I've always pronounced it as Notra Dom. How about you?
>
Notra Darm, the French way.
Apparently, there is a hotel in Florida called Fontainebleau that USians
who stayed there call the Fountain Blue.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 17:49:21 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 16:10:09 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, Leonard
>> >Blaisdell says...
>> >>
>> >> In article > , Bruce
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I still think the Spanish guy says Nevahda. What you want is an American
>> >> > twang to the word that Spanish doesn't have. I guess Americans twanged
>> >> > away from the original correct pronunciation and the wrong way has
>> >> > become the right way for Americans.
>> >>
>> >> As sf pointed out, It doesn't matter what the Spanish guy said. I'm
>> >> born of and seldom leave the state in question. She's right. You're
>> >> wrong. Come to Nevada and make a fool of yourself by mispronouncing our
>> >> state. Most do.
>> >> Go to Mexico, most of South America or Spain and laugh and point back
>> >> at us. Just don't do it in Nevada. There is no argument. You're wrong.
>> >>
>> >> Where, precisely, are you from so I can mispronounce it if I ever get
>> >> there to annoy you?
>> >
>> >I'm not denying that Nevahdans say Nevada. I'm sure they do. They're
>> >collectively wrong. That includes you.
>>
>> They may possibly be technically wrong (not that I could care less
>> enough to check) but all that counts is how it's pronounced locally.
>
>Hey, I'm backed up by the next Leader of the Free World:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfPyLYl0ax8&t=0m31s

Case closed!