"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>>> >
>>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>>> > last year. Overdue.
>>>
>>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
>>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
>>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
>>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
>>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
>>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
>>
>>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
>>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
>>diner level.
>
> I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
> chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
> Janet US

I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.

Cheri

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:54:08 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 23:30:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You can get those where I am too in CA, not as popular as they were a few
> >> years ago, but one of our local diners still have them. I used to love
> >> them.
> >>
> >
> > Now I need to know the name of that diner, so we can eat there the
> > next time we're in the area.
>
> The Hollywood Cafe on Cherokee Lane. I haven't been there for a long time
> because of the crime in the area these days, but they had great food, and
> really good hot roast beef sandwiches with mashed potatoes and brown gravy.
>
Thanks! It has 4 stars from Google reviews, so I guess their food is
still good.



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On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
> >>> >
> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
> >>> > last year. Overdue.
> >>>
> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
> >>
> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
> >>diner level.
> >
> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
> > Janet US
>
> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
>
Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?



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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:54:08 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 23:30:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can get those where I am too in CA, not as popular as they were a
>> >> few
>> >> years ago, but one of our local diners still have them. I used to love
>> >> them.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Now I need to know the name of that diner, so we can eat there the
>> > next time we're in the area.
>>
>> The Hollywood Cafe on Cherokee Lane. I haven't been there for a long time
>> because of the crime in the area these days, but they had great food, and
>> really good hot roast beef sandwiches with mashed potatoes and brown
>> gravy.
>>
> Thanks! It has 4 stars from Google reviews, so I guess their food is
> still good.

The Hollywood was always good, but now...too many drive-bys, gang violence
etc. The Richmaid is still there which used to be good, but the last time I
was there, it was awful. It might have changed ownership though, so could be
better.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:54:08 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 23:30:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can get those where I am too in CA, not as popular as they were a
>> >> few
>> >> years ago, but one of our local diners still have them. I used to love
>> >> them.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Now I need to know the name of that diner, so we can eat there the
>> > next time we're in the area.
>>
>> The Hollywood Cafe on Cherokee Lane. I haven't been there for a long time
>> because of the crime in the area these days, but they had great food, and
>> really good hot roast beef sandwiches with mashed potatoes and brown
>> gravy.
>>
> Thanks! It has 4 stars from Google reviews, so I guess their food is
> still good.


You pretty much have to go down Cherokee Lane to get to Lodi from the
freeway, so it is handy.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>> >>> > last year. Overdue.
>> >>>
>> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one
>> >>> nearby.
>> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
>> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas
>> >>> (mainly)
>> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good
>> >>> down
>> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
>> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
>> >>
>> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
>> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
>> >>diner level.
>> >
>> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
>> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
>> > Janet US
>>
>> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
>>
> Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?

No, I'm talking about places like Carrow's taking over some spots.

Cheri

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 20:59:44 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
> >> >>> > last year. Overdue.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one
> >> >>> nearby.
> >> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
> >> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas
> >> >>> (mainly)
> >> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good
> >> >>> down
> >> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
> >> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
> >> >>
> >> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
> >> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
> >> >>diner level.
> >> >
> >> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
> >> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
> >> > Janet US
> >>
> >> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
> >>
> > Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?
>
> No, I'm talking about places like Carrow's taking over some spots.
>

Gah. I ate at a Carrow's once and that was the last time they got my
money.



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On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 20:49:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:54:08 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 23:30:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You can get those where I am too in CA, not as popular as they were a
> >> >> few
> >> >> years ago, but one of our local diners still have them. I used to love
> >> >> them.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Now I need to know the name of that diner, so we can eat there the
> >> > next time we're in the area.
> >>
> >> The Hollywood Cafe on Cherokee Lane. I haven't been there for a long time
> >> because of the crime in the area these days, but they had great food, and
> >> really good hot roast beef sandwiches with mashed potatoes and brown
> >> gravy.
> >>
> > Thanks! It has 4 stars from Google reviews, so I guess their food is
> > still good.
>
>
> You pretty much have to go down Cherokee Lane to get to Lodi from the
> freeway, so it is handy.
>

That makes it easy, thanks.



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On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 12:04:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 8:49:36 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > Every region of the U.S. has certain foods that don't seem to make it
> > elsewhere in volume. I've never eaten alligator, morels, collards,
> > etc.. I simply don't live where they are generally available.
> > In Nevada, we have pine nuts from the single leaf pinyon that aren't
> > generally available nationwide. I have harvested them a few times, and
> > it's free but dirty work in Nevada foothills. You use long poles to
> > whack the tree and tarps to gather the nuts that fall. You come home
> > smelling like a Christmas tree and sticky enough to act as flypaper.
> > Luckily, they are harvested commercially, and a old man can buy them
> > for $12.99 per pound around here. So I bought some.
> > I cover them with heavily salted water in a skillet.
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/adhpom7txf...start.JPG?dl=0
> > This is the finished product as soon as the salted water lightly boils
> > off. I mean as soon as it boils off. There's no pan roasting going on.
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gblji1l3fp...shJPG.JPG?dl=0
> > The pan, don't use black iron, now needs a soaped steel pad. There's
> > plenty of pitch along with the salt. The spoon needs the same
> > treatment.
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/xxjr7ai1qe...utpan.JPG?dl=0
> > And the finished pine nuts.
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdb7x0uqyq...oduct.JPG?dl=0
> > They are salty to look at in the photos, but that's nearly all on the
> > shell. You bite them a couple of times around the equator, and they
> > break in half. They're delicious.
> > I'm talking about U.S. pine nuts, not Italian pignoli. Ours are fresh,
> > milky if not cooked, bendable if cooked recently, freshly off-the-tree
> > and a different species, although they may taste the same. I've never
> > tried the Italian ones.
> > So what's your (any country, any region) specialty food that others
> > here or in your own country are unlikely to be familiar with?
> >
> > leo
>
>
> Most of the foods here regional specialties. A few minutes ago I had a plate
> lunch of bbq short ribs, teriyaki beef, and bbq chicken. This was served
> over rice and came with a scoop of macaroni salad. Yesterday I had a poi
> mochi doughnut. It looked like a doughnut but it was chewy and sticky. I
> never had one of those before but I'd sure eat it again.
>
> https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyl...efore-you-die/
>
> =================
>
> What a lovely site Thanks
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Here's what I ate today. It was my granddaughter's first birthday, which is a big deal in this state.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...KrsxSwPtK1rKND

My daughter made the sweets. Macarons, small tarts, and almond cake. That's poi in the back. It was not bad. It was lightly fermented - a bit sour and tangy due that carbon dioxide bubbles in it.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...ovh8AxZSXW64Kl

"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 23:30:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> You can get those where I am too in CA, not as popular as they were a few
>> years ago, but one of our local diners still have them. I used to love
>> them.
>>
>
> Now I need to know the name of that diner, so we can eat there the
> next time we're in the area.

The Hollywood Cafe on Cherokee Lane. I haven't been there for a long time
because of the crime in the area these days, but they had great food, and
really good hot roast beef sandwiches with mashed potatoes and brown gravy.

Cheri

===========

I noticed it said a 'dipper' of mashed potato! My husband who has spent
quite a lot of time in the US says they serve very small portions of mashed
potato (in his terms <g>) How much is a 'dipper'?



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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

>
> https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyl...efore-you-die/
>
> =================
>
> What a lovely site Thanks
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Here's what I ate today. It was my granddaughter's first birthday, which is
a big deal in this state.

That, my dear is a big deal for us too)))

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...KrsxSwPtK1rKND

Do tell what is on that plate? About the only thing I could
determine was .. tomato?

My daughter made the sweets. Macarons, small tarts, and almond cake. That's
poi in the back. It was not bad. It was lightly fermented - a bit sour and
tangy due that carbon dioxide bubbles in it.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...ovh8AxZSXW64Kl

Woo hooo they look really good) Still not sure what 'poi'
is Sorry

Incidentally, that site was quite difficult to watch. I
have saved it and will look again.

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They use an ice cream-like scoop with the little lever that you can use to
extricate the ice cream from the scoop. It goes around the inside of the ball-
shaped dipper in order to,get all of the food out. Then they usually use the
back of the scoop...the solid ball-like shape...to push down in the center to
make a depression just right for the ladle of gravy.

This is makin' me hungry for one ;-))

SF, if you are ever in Iowa on I-80, stop at the Flying J truck stop, which is
famous around the US for having everything available except your mom to
tuck you in ;-)) it has been featured on one of the Discovery group of channels.
This includes delicious food.

N.

"Nancy2" wrote in message
...

They use an ice cream-like scoop with the little lever that you can use to
extricate the ice cream from the scoop. It goes around the inside of the
ball-
shaped dipper in order to,get all of the food out. Then they usually use
the
back of the scoop...the solid ball-like shape...to push down in the center
to
make a depression just right for the ladle of gravy.

This is makin' me hungry for one ;-))

=================

I take it that was in response to my 'dipper' question?

Thanks


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On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 20:41:18 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>> >>> > last year. Overdue.
>> >>>
>> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
>> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
>> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
>> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
>> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
>> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
>> >>
>> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
>> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
>> >>diner level.
>> >
>> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
>> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
>> > Janet US
>>
>> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
>>
>Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?

No, not owned by a corporate giant (that I know of). A chain within
their own niche. I take that back. . . Google is my friend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ck_stop_chains
Around here, Flying J is an example. About an hour away from here
there used to be Gear Jammer. A single outfit. OMG, their biscuits
and gravy!!! Pancakes the size of a manhole cover. Lovely, lovely
home fries. And the pies!!!!! Now it is all big time, A gift shop.
Huge dining room. Phones at every table. And, of course the repair
bays, showers and huge parking spaces. I have no idea how many
acres are there. No single ownership is going to be able to afford
that kind of outlay. I don't begrudge the truckers what they need and
want, but I do remember the old days fondly. Now there is just as
much fou-fou salads and food as you would find at any mid-range
restaurant without the white tablecloth.
Janet US

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 23:49:31 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>> So what's your (any country, any region) specialty food that others
>> here or in your own country are unlikely to be familiar with?
>
> The only mostly-exclusive State foodstuffs I can think of that can be
> wild foraged are tuna (no, not the fish), chiltepins, magic mushrooms,
> and peyote. Less localized regional are agave and pecans.
>
> -sw

toss some armadillo in there and you have a complete meal

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 10:59:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 20:41:18 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
> >> >>> > last year. Overdue.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
> >> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
> >> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
> >> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
> >> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
> >> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
> >> >>
> >> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
> >> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
> >> >>diner level.
> >> >
> >> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
> >> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
> >> > Janet US
> >>
> >> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
> >>
> >Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?
>
> No, not owned by a corporate giant (that I know of). A chain within
> their own niche. I take that back. . . Google is my friend.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ck_stop_chains
> Around here, Flying J is an example. About an hour away from here
> there used to be Gear Jammer. A single outfit. OMG, their biscuits
> and gravy!!! Pancakes the size of a manhole cover. Lovely, lovely
> home fries. And the pies!!!!! Now it is all big time, A gift shop.
> Huge dining room. Phones at every table. And, of course the repair
> bays, showers and huge parking spaces. I have no idea how many
> acres are there. No single ownership is going to be able to afford
> that kind of outlay. I don't begrudge the truckers what they need and
> want, but I do remember the old days fondly. Now there is just as
> much fou-fou salads and food as you would find at any mid-range
> restaurant without the white tablecloth.
> Janet US

Truckers need salads just like the rest of us.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/6/2016 9:58 AM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>>
>> Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>> last year. Overdue.
>
> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.

I think I've only gone to one actual truck stop, in PA on Route 80,
I believe. There was almost a Golden Corral type of buffet. But that's
not really what you're talking about.

Well, I did go to the diner for lunch today. Still getting over having
a wisdom tooth pulled so I had an omelette, but I did see the open face
roast beeg/mashed potato special.

Given my 'druthers, I'd have ordered the roast fresh pork special.
I'm heartily tired of soft food right now.

nancy

On 11/6/2016 10:06 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-06 9:46 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 11/6/2016 8:20 AM, sf wrote:

>> I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>>
>> Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>> last year. Overdue.
>>
> Let us know if they are still on the menu. I used to go to diners for
> lunch and supper when I was working and they were a standard, but that
> was more than 12 years ago.

Still on the menu. I bet it would have been good, too. I love
diner food.

> Wait a sec... just checked the online menu for a family restaurant in
> town and they have hot turkey sandwiches.

That sounds good, too.

nancy

On 11/6/2016 3:29 PM, The New Other Guy wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 09:46:22 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:

>> I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>>
>> Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>> last year. Overdue.
>
> It was a staple at home when I was young, my Father's favorite.
>
> Never found it particularly appealing, I like a REAL sandwich
> that I can pick up and put down.

I actually agree with you there, just being that there is bread
underneath doesn't make it as handy as a sandwich, but once in a
while I can go for that. Strictly a knife and fork situation.

It's also not something I grew up with, either.

nancy

On 2016-11-07, Nancy Young > wrote:

> underneath doesn't make it as handy as a sandwich, but once in a
> while I can go for that. Strictly a knife and fork situation.

Promlem is, they always put cheap0 wht bread, underneath. Even famous
BBQ places brag on how they are "truly authentic" cuz the serve their
pulled-pork open faced sammies on cheap-ass white bread. As if!....

nb

On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 11:22:24 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> >
> > https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyl...efore-you-die/
> >
> > =================
> >
> > What a lovely site Thanks
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Here's what I ate today. It was my granddaughter's first birthday, which is
> a big deal in this state.
>
> That, my dear is a big deal for us too)))
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...KrsxSwPtK1rKND
>
> Do tell what is on that plate? About the only thing I could
> determine was .. tomato?
>
> My daughter made the sweets. Macarons, small tarts, and almond cake. That's
> poi in the back. It was not bad. It was lightly fermented - a bit sour and
> tangy due that carbon dioxide bubbles in it.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...ovh8AxZSXW64Kl
>
> Woo hooo they look really good) Still not sure what 'poi'
> is Sorry
>
> Incidentally, that site was quite difficult to watch. I
> have saved it and will look again.
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That thing that looks like a tomato is a watermelon slice.

The red and pink stuff is lomi lomi salmon and it's a dish you won't find anywhere but here although I suppose you could call it Hawaiian style ceviche. Da Hawaiians love the stuff and it's dead simple to make. My wife told me they had 2 large trays of the stuff left over. That's about 200 servings. Hoo boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kigcpEWGiXw


Poi is cooked and mashed taro root. It's the Pacific islander's equivalent of the Irish potato. Typically it's allowed to ferment for a few days. 1 day old poi is about right for most folks, 3 day old poi is pretty hardcore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4353758.html

On Mon, 07 Nov 2016 08:59:33 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 20:41:18 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
> >> >>> > last year. Overdue.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
> >> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
> >> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
> >> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
> >> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
> >> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
> >> >>
> >> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
> >> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
> >> >>diner level.
> >> >
> >> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
> >> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
> >> > Janet US
> >>
> >> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
> >>
> >Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?
>
> No, not owned by a corporate giant (that I know of). A chain within
> their own niche. I take that back. . . Google is my friend.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ck_stop_chains
> Around here, Flying J is an example. About an hour away from here
> there used to be Gear Jammer. A single outfit. OMG, their biscuits
> and gravy!!! Pancakes the size of a manhole cover. Lovely, lovely
> home fries. And the pies!!!!! Now it is all big time, A gift shop.
> Huge dining room. Phones at every table. And, of course the repair
> bays, showers and huge parking spaces. I have no idea how many
> acres are there. No single ownership is going to be able to afford
> that kind of outlay. I don't begrudge the truckers what they need and
> want, but I do remember the old days fondly.

Wow, sounds like they're making life on the road as nice as possible
for truckers!

> Now there is just as much fou-fou salads and food as you would find at any mid-range
> restaurant without the white tablecloth.
> Janet US

I think truckers want good food served in a nice atmosphere too, so
why not? There are enough Subway sandwich shops immediately off any
interstate highway to satisfy a craving for low cost, bad food.


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On 2016-11-07, sf > wrote:

> Wow, sounds like they're making life on the road as nice as possible
> for truckers!

Yeah. Jes overpriced diesel, empty carbs, and a hooker. Great places!

nb

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 05:41:49 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

> SF, if you are ever in Iowa on I-80, stop at the Flying J truck stop, which is
> famous around the US for having everything available except your mom to
> tuck you in ;-)) it has been featured on one of the Discovery group of channels.
> This includes delicious food.

From your description in another thread, it sounds wonderful! Wish
we'd had this discussion before hubby and I did our 9500 mile "leaf
peeping" tour of the USA a few years ago. We stopped in an Amana
community for lunch. Unfortunately, German food didn't hit the spot
for us. It was tasty enough, but it was too heavy and there was too
much of it.


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On 2016-11-07, sf > wrote:

> It was tasty enough, but it was too heavy and there was too
> much of it.

Too much food? Holy crap! Can't have that!!

Where are those damn lawn-clipping salads stacked vertically and
decorated with zero-nutrition dead flower blossoms, when you need
'em!?

What? Can't gracefully leave a resto, these days, w/o feeling hungry?

nb

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 09:58:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 10:59:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 20:41:18 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:48:06 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:00:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 09:58:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Nancy Young wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I'd expect to be able to get that at a diner.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Speaking of which, I haven't been to one in a long time, since
>> >> >>> > last year. Overdue.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You want good cooking? Go to a local truck stop if you have one nearby.
>> >> >>> And I'm talking about an official truck-stop for all the LD traveling
>> >> >>> 18-wheelers. I worked at one for a bit. Truckers stop for gas (mainly)
>> >> >>> and repairs if necessary. Best thing was the attached diner...good down
>> >> >>> to earth home cooked food. The cooks learned from their moms and
>> >> >>> grandmas, no formal education. Seriously good food there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Sorry to rain on your parade, Gary, but I've eaten at truck stops and
>> >> >>the food I had wasn't any better than any other restaurant on the
>> >> >>diner level.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it used to be true but now a lot of the truck stops belong to
>> >> > chains. When that happens the food goes down hill.
>> >> > Janet US
>> >>
>> >> I agree, the food has gone downhill as some of them become chains.
>> >>
>> >Are you talking about chains like McDonald's or something else?
>>
>> No, not owned by a corporate giant (that I know of). A chain within
>> their own niche. I take that back. . . Google is my friend.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ck_stop_chains
>> Around here, Flying J is an example. About an hour away from here
>> there used to be Gear Jammer. A single outfit. OMG, their biscuits
>> and gravy!!! Pancakes the size of a manhole cover. Lovely, lovely
>> home fries. And the pies!!!!! Now it is all big time, A gift shop.
>> Huge dining room. Phones at every table. And, of course the repair
>> bays, showers and huge parking spaces. I have no idea how many
>> acres are there. No single ownership is going to be able to afford
>> that kind of outlay. I don't begrudge the truckers what they need and
>> want, but I do remember the old days fondly. Now there is just as
>> much fou-fou salads and food as you would find at any mid-range
>> restaurant without the white tablecloth.
>> Janet US
>
>Truckers need salads just like the rest of us.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Sorry you took my comment to mean I was opposed to truckers having any
salad at all
Janet US

On 2016-11-07 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 10:59:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> Pancakes the size of a manhole cover. Lovely, lovely
>> home fries. And the pies!!!!! Now it is all big time, A gift shop.
>> Huge dining room. Phones at every table. And, of course the repair
>> bays, showers and huge parking spaces. I have no idea how many
>> acres are there. No single ownership is going to be able to afford
>> that kind of outlay. I don't begrudge the truckers what they need and
>> want, but I do remember the old days fondly. Now there is just as
>> much fou-fou salads and food as you would find at any mid-range
>> restaurant without the white tablecloth.
>> Janet US
>
> Truckers need salads just like the rest of us.
>

Needs and wants are too different things. I have eaten in a lot of truck
stops but always avoided a lot of the foods I saw most drivers eating.
They ate a lot of bacon and eggs with home fries, fish and chips,
hamburgers and fries. Few of them went to the salad bars.

On 7 Nov 2016 19:49:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2016-11-07, sf > wrote:
>
> > It was tasty enough, but it was too heavy and there was too
> > much of it.
>
> Too much food? Holy crap! Can't have that!!
>
> Where are those damn lawn-clipping salads stacked vertically and
> decorated with zero-nutrition dead flower blossoms, when you need
> 'em!?
>
> What? Can't gracefully leave a resto, these days, w/o feeling hungry?
>
This is an excellent insight about why Americans are so fat.



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On 2016-11-07 1:23 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 11/6/2016 3:29 PM, The New Other Guy wrote:

> I actually agree with you there, just being that there is bread
> underneath doesn't make it as handy as a sandwich, but once in a
> while I can go for that. Strictly a knife and fork situation.
>
> It's also not something I grew up with, either.
>

I sure grew up with it. We had a lot of roast beef when I was kid. It
was the standard Sunday night dinner, and sometimes mid week too. They
were always big roasts, and cooked the way my father liked them... well
done. I later learned to eat beef rare and liked it a lot better, but
cooking it more makes for better drippings for gravy and Yorkshire
pudding. Sometimes the leftovers were ground and used for shepherds pie,
but more often it was used for hot roast beef sandwiches.


FWIW.... I just check the online menu for a place in Fort Erie that I
used to frequent often when I was working in the area. My mother was
there with my wife one day for lunch one Friday and had the hot roast
beef sandwich. Mom was not much of a meat eater and that place had huge
portions. She had leftover roast beef for supper that night, Saturday
amd Sunday night. On Monday my brother and my wife and I had lunch with
her on Monday and she had still had enough leftover beef for sandwiches
for all four of us.

Their menu also lists hot hamburg sandwiches and hot turkey sandwiches.
I am glad to see they are still going strong. They used to close for
January and February so the owners could go south for a couple months.
Every year there would be a lineup when they re-opened.

On 2016-11-07, Dave Smith > wrote:

> Needs and wants are too different things.

Nobody "needs" salad. Besides, all the really good salad's include
meat!

nb

On 2016-11-07 1:55 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-11-07, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> underneath doesn't make it as handy as a sandwich, but once in a
>> while I can go for that. Strictly a knife and fork situation.
>
> Promlem is, they always put cheap0 wht bread, underneath. Even famous
> BBQ places brag on how they are "truly authentic" cuz the serve their
> pulled-pork open faced sammies on cheap-ass white bread. As if!....

I make no claim to being an expert on southern BBQ. I have never been
south. The only place I ever had it in the US was in Buffalo. The
smoked brisket was incredible. The white roll it on which it was served
was a very high quality roll.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...
..

The red and pink stuff is lomi lomi salmon and it's a dish you won't find
anywhere but here although I suppose you could call it Hawaiian style
ceviche. Da Hawaiians love the stuff and it's dead simple to make. My wife
told me they had 2 large trays of the stuff left over. That's about 200
servings. Hoo boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kigcpEWGiXw


And now I know how to do 'lomi' ) Hawaiian rock salt ...
would sea salt do? That looks lovely That mix of onion, tomato and green
onions looks good and I will 'lomi' them very well ;-)


Poi is cooked and mashed taro root. It's the Pacific islander's equivalent
of the Irish potato. Typically it's allowed to ferment for a few days. 1 day
old poi is about right for most folks, 3 day old poi is pretty hardcore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4353758.html

I doubt I will ever set eyes on taro root so ...

I also doubt I will ever manage to make any of the lovely
foods you show, but I do enjoy seeing and hearing about them , so thank
you) I have visited and lived in so many parts of the world, how did I
never get to Hawaii)

Oh well too late now I will read your recipes

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On 2016-11-07 2:36 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-11-07, sf > wrote:
>
>> Wow, sounds like they're making life on the road as nice as possible
>> for truckers!
>
> Yeah. Jes overpriced diesel, empty carbs, and a hooker. Great places!
>
Lot lizards ;-)

On 2016-11-07 3:20 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-11-07, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Needs and wants are too different things.
>
> Nobody "needs" salad. Besides, all the really good salad's include
> meat!
>

I don't need salad. I really enjoy a nice Greek salad. I will even eat
jelly salads, but I don't have much use for lettuce. If I go through a
salad bar I am likely to get some radish, cucumber, tomato, croutons,
onion and blue cheese dressing, but no lettuce.

Well, sf, The Amana Colonies are notably German, so there is mostly food
influenced by German culture. Some restaurants are naturally better than
others...the Colony Inn used to be the best, but now it is the Ronneburg.

Zuber's, on the state highway on the way to Main Amana, was my dad's favorite.
Bill Zuber had some connection to Major League Baseball; but he died a while ago
and I haven't been there since.

Anyway, the Amana Meat Shop has a lovely website, and the hams and sausages
are really good. If you order, you can add "ride-alongs, like special items including
a variety of crackers that go with their meat and cheese gift baskets. Imhave sent gift
baskets to family and friends who have moved away, or to whom I just want to send a gift.

(And off-topic, the Amana Furniture Shop has the most skilled hand craftsmen you will find
anywhere. Their cane rockers, grandfather clocks and bedroom suites aren't inexpensive,
but wow! They become heirlooms.)

N.

On 11/7/2016 8:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> I doubt I will ever set eyes on taro root so ...
>
You're not missing much. It doesn't have much taste, and the texture
isn't great. I understand it's nutritious, though.

On 2016-11-07, S Viemeister > wrote:

> You're not missing much. It doesn't have much taste, and the texture
> isn't great. I understand it's nutritious, though.

Gotta have some carbs with all that fish protein, so, better than a
poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

I'd rather eat a plain potato. Has more flavor, even w/o the salt n'
butter.

nb

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 11/7/2016 8:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> I doubt I will ever set eyes on taro root so ...
>
You're not missing much. It doesn't have much taste, and the texture
isn't great. I understand it's nutritious, though.

================

Thanks, but will never know)


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On Monday, 7 November 2016 14:45:42 UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:

> Well, sf, The Amana Colonies are notably German, so there is mostly food
> influenced by German culture. Some restaurants are naturally better than
> others...the Colony Inn used to be the best, but now it is the Ronneburg.
>
> Zuber's, on the state highway on the way to Main Amana, was my dad's favorite.
> Bill Zuber had some connection to Major League Baseball; but he died a while ago
> and I haven't been there since.
>
> Anyway, the Amana Meat Shop has a lovely website, and the hams and sausages
> are really good. If you order, you can add "ride-alongs, like special items including
> a variety of crackers that go with their meat and cheese gift baskets. Imhave sent gift
> baskets to family and friends who have moved away, or to whom I just want to send a gift.


I am just making out my holiday Amana order, the lucky recipients are getting ham 'n cheese packs, and several folks I am gifting with The Famous Amana Hams, too...

http://www.amanameatshop.com/prod_de...ist/Amana-Hams

Apropos of the pork tenderloin discussion above:

http://www.amanameatshop.com/prod_de...rk-tenderloins

I grew up with pork tenderloins in West - Central Illinois, they were a staple everywhere, still are. For the life of me I can't understand why they are fairly completely unknown here in Chicagoland, they are one thing I miss from my childhood...

Maid - Rite "loose meat" sandwiches were a staple, too, but I don't miss them quite so much...



> (And off-topic, the Amana Furniture Shop has the most skilled hand craftsmen you will find
> anywhere. Their cane rockers, grandfather clocks and bedroom suites aren't inexpensive,
> but wow! They become heirlooms.)


Yes, lovely stuff...IIRC they harvest their wood from local Amana groves:

http://www.amanashops.com/category/amana-furniture-shop

And woolens:

http://www.amanashops.com/category/amana-woolen-mill


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Best
Greg

On 2016-11-07, The Greatest! > wrote:

> And woolens:
>
> http://www.amanashops.com/category/amana-woolen-mill

Thank you. I've always been a wool fan ever since I was in the USAF,
was issued two wool blankets, and could never use the 2nd one. That
2nd one would leave me sweating, no matter how cold!

Now, what with all those great micro-fiber blankets, I've not found a good
wool blanky. Pendleton is barely functioning, anymore, but this one
looks OK:

<http://www.amanashops.com/product/non-issued-civil-war-blanket/amana-woolen-mill>

100% wool and 65"X90". Love it! If it is thick enough, I'll buy one.

Again, thanks.

nb