On 2016-11-13 1:02 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:20:45 -0500, jmcquown >

>> It has very little to do with my thinking about who I voted for. Ever
>>
>> Jill
>
> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>

For me, it was more a matter of the hypocrisy of the attacks on the war
record of a man who volunteered for service, volunteered for a more
hazardous duty, was cited for bravery and wounded, by a group that is
supporting the candidate that got the country club assignment and didn't
even finish that.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:24:15 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-11-13 1:02 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:20:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>
>>> It has very little to do with my thinking about who I voted for. Ever
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
>> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
>> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>>
>
>For me, it was more a matter of the hypocrisy of the attacks on the war
>record of a man who volunteered for service, volunteered for a more
>hazardous duty, was cited for bravery and wounded, by a group that is
>supporting the candidate that got the country club assignment and didn't
>even finish that.

I also could not admire his treatment of the couple whose son died far
more recently in Iraq - if you didn't go yourself, you've no place
being rude about those who did.

On 11/13/2016 1:02 PM, wrote:

>
> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>

Your children are being educated by draft dodgers too. Teaching was a
popular college major to avoid the draft. Some of your doctors are
draft dodgers too. Do you avoid them also? Ministers?

On 11/13/2016 10:05 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I was struck by the hypocrisy of Republican groups who smeared John
> Kerry over his war record.

We were struck by the TREASON of a man who threw other mens' medals away
in protest.

You worthless fat-assed canuck shithead.

On 11/13/2016 10:59 AM, wrote:
> my father was the guy
> who rescued him after Ikes ship ran itself aground

YOU are a shameless deceitful name dropper.

YOUR father would be ashamed to his very core of you and what you said here.

On 11/13/2016 11:02 AM, wrote:
> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.

So no AL Gore and his typewriter duty either, right bitch?

On 11/13/2016 11:20 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Vietnam was 50 years ago, but
But?

**** YOU TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 11/13/2016 11:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> For me, it was more a matter of the hypocrisy of the attacks on the war
> record


Like HIS attacks on the war records of his comrades in his "winter
soldier" sneak attack testimony?

**** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 11/13/2016 12:38 PM, wrote:
> I also could not admire his treatment of the couple

The DNC muzzie plants who were PAID to do that?

**** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:55:32 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 11/13/2016 1:02 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
>> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
>> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>>
>
>Your children are being educated by draft dodgers too. Teaching was a
>popular college major to avoid the draft. Some of your doctors are
>draft dodgers too. Do you avoid them also? Ministers?

I'm Canadian, after Korea the next conflict was Afghanistan and my doc
would have been too old for that and I am an atheist so don't relate
to a minister. In the event more than enough people were willing to
go voluntarily, so it doesn't really equate.

On 11/13/2016 2:37 PM, wrote:
> I am an atheist so don't relate


Boy I'll say!

On 2016-11-13 2:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
>> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
>> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>>
>
> Your children are being educated by draft dodgers too. Teaching was a
> popular college major to avoid the draft. Some of your doctors are
> draft dodgers too. Do you avoid them also? Ministers?


Think of it the way Trump explained how he could make billions of
dollars and not have to pay tax. He was smarter than the guys who
went. Hmmm...tax evader and draft evader. It is a good thing for him
and his apparent willingness to swing a big stick that there are people
willing to enlist and others willing to pay taxes to pay for them to serve.

On 11/13/2016 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-13 2:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
>>> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
>>> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>>>
>>
>> Your children are being educated by draft dodgers too. Teaching was a
>> popular college major to avoid the draft. Some of your doctors are
>> draft dodgers too. Do you avoid them also? Ministers?
>
>
> Think of it the way Trump explained how he could make billions of
> dollars and not have to pay tax. He was smarter than the guys who
> went. Hmmm...tax evader and draft evader. It is a good thing for him
> and his apparent willingness to swing a big stick that there are people
> willing to enlist and others willing to pay taxes to pay for them to serve.

He followed the law, like it or not. The law needs changing.

Disclosu I was going to enlist in the Navy. When i registered for
the draft I was not categorized 1A so I had little chance of serving.
For that reason, i did not enlist. The government thought what I was
doing was more important than the service so I did not argue.

On 2016-11-13 7:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/13/2016 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-11-13 2:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
>>>> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
>>>> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your children are being educated by draft dodgers too. Teaching was a
>>> popular college major to avoid the draft. Some of your doctors are
>>> draft dodgers too. Do you avoid them also? Ministers?
>>
>>
>> Think of it the way Trump explained how he could make billions of
>> dollars and not have to pay tax. He was smarter than the guys who
>> went. Hmmm...tax evader and draft evader. It is a good thing for him
>> and his apparent willingness to swing a big stick that there are people
>> willing to enlist and others willing to pay taxes to pay for them to
>> serve.
>
> He followed the law, like it or not. The law needs changing.

Apparently he did follow the law. The fact that a man can "lose" enough
money to not have to pay income tax for years and years and still be a
billionaire should indicate that the law needs to be changed. He used a
loophole to avoid paying income tax when he has a a lot more money than
a lot of working Joes who do pay their taxes, but he is not classified
as a tax evader. Yet, any man who got a deferral from the draft because
he was attending university and getting a degree is technically a draft
dodger.
>
> Disclosu I was going to enlist in the Navy. When i registered for
> the draft I was not categorized 1A so I had little chance of serving.
> For that reason, i did not enlist. The government thought what I was
> doing was more important than the service so I did not argue.

We have no draft here. I applied to the army. I went through the tests.
the medical and the interviews. I had my last interview on a Wednesday.
I had an interview with Canada Manpower on Thursday, Manpower called me
Friday to tell me I had the job and to report to work on Monday. The
army called me at my new job to tell me I was accepted and to report for
training in Chilliwack in two weeks. I turned it down.

On 11/13/2016 4:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Think of it the way Trump explained how he could make billions of
> dollars and not have to pay tax.

Think of what an utter pile of shit you are - always.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-11-13 7:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 11/13/2016 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2016-11-13 2:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You're missing the point, why would you vote for a draft dodger? I
> >>>> wouldn't, especially if that person got out of serving because their
> >>>> Daddy could afford to make sure life continued as normal for them.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Your children are being educated by draft dodgers too. Teaching was a
> >>> popular college major to avoid the draft. Some of your doctors are
> >>> draft dodgers too. Do you avoid them also? Ministers?
> >>
> >>
> >> Think of it the way Trump explained how he could make billions of
> >> dollars and not have to pay tax. He was smarter than the guys who
> >> went. Hmmm...tax evader and draft evader. It is a good thing for him
> >> and his apparent willingness to swing a big stick that there are people
> >> willing to enlist and others willing to pay taxes to pay for them to
> >> serve.
> >
> > He followed the law, like it or not. The law needs changing.
>
> Apparently he did follow the law. The fact that a man can "lose" enough
> money to not have to pay income tax for years and years and still be a
> billionaire should indicate that the law needs to be changed. He used a
> loophole to avoid paying income tax

If he ever reveals his tax files (as if!) you'll be able to see how he
managed to "lose" the money. It may be legal, but other people are
paying the price for the "loss", in the promised jobs that never
happened, the contracts that were cancelled, the trade opportunities
that never happened.

Here in Scotland we already know, from his two golf course
developments. He lied about the land value, his investment, and the
potential income from them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...le-of-foreign-
experience-a-scottish-golf-course-losing-millions/2016/06/22/12ae9cb0-
1883-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html

"But to many people in Scotland, his course here has been a failure.
Over the past decade, Trump has battled with homeowners, elbowed his way
through the planning process, shattered relationships with elected
leaders and sued the Scottish government. On top of that, he has yet to
fulfill the lofty promises he made.

Trump has also reported to Scottish authorities that he lost millions of
dollars on the project ? even as he claims on U.S. presidential
disclosure forms that the course has been highly profitable.

Trump?s original plan: a sprawling resort in the ancestral home of golf
with two courses, a 450-room luxury hotel and spa, a conference center,
employee housing, a turf-grass research center and a holiday community
with hundreds of villas, condos and homes. The project would pump
millions of dollars into the local economy and create 6,000 jobs ? maybe
even 7,000 jobs, Trump said at one news conference. Tourists would
travel here from around the world, he promised, along with well-known
celebrities such as Scottish actor Sean Connery.

Today, the Trump International Golf Links near Aberdeen employs 150
people and consists of one golf course that meanders through the sand
dunes, a clubhouse with a restaurant and 19 rooms for rent in a
renovated mansion and former carriage house. There is also a maintenance
facility and a road running through the property. Lonely and desolate,
the resort has attracted no major tournaments, and neighbors say the
parking lot is rarely, if ever, full."

"Trump has provided starkly contradictory portraits of the financial
health of his golf course here, along with two other projects in the
region.

According to reports filed with the British government, Trump said the
Aberdeen course has lost more than 4.71 million pounds since 2012 ? the
equivalent of $6.9 million at current exchange rates. British
authorities were told that the course lost 1.14 million pounds, or about
$1.67 million, in 2014 alone.

Yet in a July 2015 disclosure filed with the U.S. Office of Government
Ethics, Trump valued Aberdeen at ?over $50 million? and put his income
from the course at $4.2 million between mid-2014 and the end of 2015.

A similar pattern holds for records filed for his Turnberry golf resort
on Scotland?s west coast, which he will also visit this week, and at a
third Trump course in Ireland?s County Clare ? millions in losses
reported in overseas records, millions in profits reported on U.S.
forms."

There's lots more, read it and weep. Those poor buggers in the rust
belt have been taken in,just like Scotland was. What you're in line for,
is more of the same, fantasy promises, fantasy employment, and a fantasy
economy.

Janet

On 11/14/2016 12:01 PM, Janet wrote:
> If he ever reveals his tax files (as if!)

Dumb ****!

He said AGAIN last night he will reveal them when the IRS audit closes.

Grow the **** up, you vinegar-titted old hag.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Since when does serving in Viet Nam mean you're qualified to be
> President? My father served two tours. He was also in WWII (enlisted
> at age 17) and a Korean war vet. He was a career Marine, a good
> soldier. I loved my father but no, I wouldn't have voted for him for
> President.

Some loving daughter you turned out to be. heheh JK
My cool father never served in the military but he spent
his entire career working for the DOD. He achieved a high
status. He retired 40 years ago and he still makes 2-3
times as much money than I do working now. wowmom!
I'm proud of what he accomplished but it's all secret.
He won't tell anyone much about what he did.
I guess he can't.

One year... it was the election year of Bush vs Gore, I
photoshopped my dad into sitting at the desk in the
Oval Office - like he had won instead. He liked it.

It was one of my better homemade cards.