On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >The Greatest wrote:
> >> Bruce wrote:
> >> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > >The Greatest wrote:
> >> > > >Nancy2 wrote:
> >> > > >> Bruce, +1.
> >> > > >> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
> >> > > >> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
> >> > > >> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
> >> > > >> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
>
> Bruthie is the classic loser who resents those with more than himself,
> which means he resents most everyone.
>
> >> > > Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
> >> > > ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
> >> > > Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
> >> > > asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
> >> > > the eyes than all other first ladys.
> >> >
> >> > But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
> >> > that make her?
> >>
> >> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather
> >than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things,
> >a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to
> > stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or
> >washerwoman until her end days...???
> >
> >Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.
>
> Inner beauty doesn't fade and that's what's important. However
> Melania will still be gorgeous when she's eighty.
>
> >There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
> >a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
> >First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
> >professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
> >rather than depend on some man.
>
> How bitter and unfullfilled you sound. You're as deaf, dumb, and
> BLIND as all those pollsters who got it wrong, simply because none are
> so blind as those who will not see... buncha biased *******s.
> Along with being extremely attractive Melania is a very intelligent
> woman who was doing fine on her own before she met The Donald and
> would have done fine without becoming a Trump. But you sure sound
> like the queen of sour grapes, obviously envious because you married a
> nobody, if you are even married... with your extremely negative
> attitude and closed mindedness no real man would associate with you.

Oh, that's a good one, Shelly. I have a great husband.

What's a "real man"? What are your criteria?

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living?

Why does she need to know it fast? She's got four years to find out.
It's not as if she will be responsible for any housekeeping, maintenance
or gardening.


That is
> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
> As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
> apartment?

Yes:-) I actually felt sorry for him (and her). Where's the homelife
comfort after work? Can you imagine poor little Barron pottering about
in his pyjamas and dropping crumbs, or having his pals over to play?


>As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.

At least Versailles has some excuse; a royal palace, the home of
kings, the seat of the Court ; naturally it's on a major scale of
grandeur.


But for a businessman to decorate his highrise flat like a Las Vegas
brothel, words fail.....

Janet UK

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> >> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> >> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> >> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> >> including me,
> >
> >That's probably the case for every First Lady.
> >
> >Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
> >
> >The White House Historical Association
> >The permanent White House staff:
> ><http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
> >The Office of the Chief of Protocol
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> Do we know if Melania can read ?

Probably, since she speaks six languages.

Janet UK

I honor the office of President, and always have.

N.

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 11/11/2016 12:57 PM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier.
>> Does she know any
>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be
>> living? That is
>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind
>> of knowledge,
>> including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly
>> appreciate it.
>> As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of
>> Donald's NY
>> apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.
>>
>> N.
>
> He won, Nancy2. Accept them and support them for now. At least honor the
> office that he holds. He WILL be your next president. I'm sure his wife
> will do fine. First Ladys are basically worthless anyway...really.
>
I've been kind of sort of reading these threads and wondering why Nancy2
is so worried about her knowledge of White House history. Does it take
knowledge of a house to move into it? Face it, it's going to be her new
home for the next four years. I'm sure they won't give up the penthouse
and other places, dinna fret.

This thread seems to have something to do with a possibly gaudy
re-decorating scheme. Perhaps she won't like the china. She might make
the "west wing" look like a brothel. Who cares? Only the first family
goes into those rooms.

This is a very odd thread.

Historically, there's absolutely no reason why the incoming First Lady
*should* know anything about the history of the White House other than
this is where we live now.

Preferable? Of course. I know the White House was burned during the
War of 1812 and rebuilt. Is it important for the First Lady to know
that? I'm not so sure.

Jill

==============

+1

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:

> Probably, since she speaks six languages.

So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?

nb

In article > ,
lid says...
>
> In article >, Ed Pawlowski
> says...
> >
> > On 11/11/2016 9:01 AM, wrote:
> >
> > >> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
> > >>
> > >> The White House Historical Association
> > >> The permanent White House staff:
> > >> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
> > >> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > Do we know if Melania can read ?
> > >
> >
> > Why are you showing your ignorance with such a comment? She speaks
> > multiple languages and probably will be better than previous first
> > ladies when socializing with foreign dignitaries.
>
> Trump has a face and a character only a mother can love.

When he was younger he was really good looking, before his mouth turned
down.

Why is Melania
> with him then?

According to her, he's always working and away from home a lot so she
doesn't see much of him.. According to previous wives and lovers he's
fantastic in bed.

Janet UK

On 11/11/2016 4:02 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I honor the office of President, and always have.
>
> N.
>
Yeah, we get that. Perhaps it's time to stop using Googlegroups or
figure out how to quote. It's getting exceedingly hard to follow your
posts, Nancy2.

Jill

On 11/11/2016 12:54 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> The Greatest wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> The Greatest wrote:
>>>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>> Bruce, +1.
>>>>>>> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
>>>>>>> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
>>>>>>> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
>>>>>>> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
>
> Bruthie is the classic loser who resents those with more than himself,
> which means he resents most everyone.
>
>>>>> Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
>>>>> ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
>>>>> Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
>>>>> asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
>>>>> the eyes than all other first ladys.
>>>>
>>>> But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
>>>> that make her?
>>>
>>> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather
>> than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things,
>> a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to
>> stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or
>> washerwoman until her end days...???
>>
>> Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.
>
> Inner beauty doesn't fade and that's what's important. However
> Melania will still be gorgeous when she's eighty.
>
>> There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
>> a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
>> First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
>> professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
>> rather than depend on some man.
>
> How bitter and unfullfilled you sound. You're as deaf, dumb, and
> BLIND as all those pollsters who got it wrong, simply because none are
> so blind as those who will not see... buncha biased *******s.
> Along with being extremely attractive Melania is a very intelligent
> woman who was doing fine on her own before she met The Donald and
> would have done fine without becoming a Trump. But you sure sound
> like the queen of sour grapes, obviously envious because you married a
> nobody, if you are even married... with your extremely negative
> attitude and closed mindedness no real man would associate with you.
>

Here we go again with the idea a woman must be married. Heh.

Jill

In article >, jmcquown says...
>
> On 11/11/2016 12:54 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> >> There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
> >> a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
> >> First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
> >> professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
> >> rather than depend on some man.
> >
> > How bitter and unfullfilled you sound. You're as deaf, dumb, and
> > BLIND as all those pollsters who got it wrong, simply because none are
> > so blind as those who will not see... buncha biased *******s.
> > Along with being extremely attractive Melania is a very intelligent
> > woman who was doing fine on her own before she met The Donald and
> > would have done fine without becoming a Trump. But you sure sound
> > like the queen of sour grapes, obviously envious because you married a
> > nobody, if you are even married... with your extremely negative
> > attitude and closed mindedness no real man would associate with you.
> >
>
> Here we go again with the idea a woman must be married. Heh.

His brain stopped developing in the 50s. And it already wasn't much.

On 2016-11-11 11:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/11/2016 9:01 AM, wrote:
>
>>> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>>>
>>> The White House Historical Association
>>> The permanent White House staff:
>>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>>>
>>> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>>
>
> Why are you showing your ignorance with such a comment? She speaks
> multiple languages and probably will be better than previous first
> ladies when socializing with foreign dignitaries.

From the photos I have seen, it looks like who could certainly show
them a good time.

On 2016-11-11 11:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/11/2016 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>>>
>>> She went to university for a year.
>>
>> That would make her a drop out.
>
> But still better educated that 35% of Americans.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> It's not as if she's some moronic American who can barely speak
>>> and read English.
>>
>> Ouch.
>
> According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of
> Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in
> the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of
> adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high
> school graduates can't read.Sep 6, 2013
>
> In Canada€¦ 42% of Canadian adults between the ages of 16 and 65 have low
> literacy skills. 55% of working age adults in Canada are estimated to
> have less than adequate health literacy skills. Shockingly, 88% of
> adults over the age of 65 appear to be in this situation.

Try NationMaster


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...ation/Literacy


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...ation/Literacy

On 2016-11-11 11:37 AM, Bruce wrote:

>> I don't think the "country" treats them second class but some of its
>> citizens certainly do. It has gotten better but will still take
>> generations to go away. How about those Aborigines?
>
> I wonder what the average "black" income is vs the average "white"
> income. Or education level. Or life expectancy. Or neighbourhood. Or...
>
> Aborigines are doing no better.

I work on the assumption that anyone who is truly bigoted is a truly
equal opportunity hater and they dislike everyone of different races.
When you look at incomes, education levels and other indications of
success, whites are not always at the top of the later. For some
reason, blacks and natives tend to be at the bottom of the ladder. That
leaves me wondering about the cause and effect issues. Heaven forbid we
acknowledge that sometimes there are reasons for stereotypes and that
sometimes there are people doing their damnedest to live up to (down to)
the stereotype.

On 2016-11-11 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> According to CNN
> Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
> compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
> median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
> $82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report found.


Notice the big jump in incomes where there is college education. If more
people who think of themselves as oppressed minorities would buy into
the value of education you would likely see higher average incomes.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:16:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-11-11 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>
>> According to CNN
>> Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
>> compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
>> median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
>> $82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report found.
>
>
>Notice the big jump in incomes where there is college education. If more
>people who think of themselves as oppressed minorities would buy into
>the value of education you would likely see higher average incomes.

The big success of Germany is the value they put in trade schools.
Every society needs tradespeople and good ones, they are the doers and
movers as opposed to the Liberal Arts Graduate.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:
>
> > Probably, since she speaks six languages.
>
> So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?

Acquiring six languages fluently suggests an enquiring mind ,a long
attention span, perseverance, good observation and memory. That skillset
is a good indicator of high intelligence.

Isn't America supposed to be the land of unlimited opportunity for
the ambitious and determined? She personifies the American Dream; an
immigrant from a poor country set her sights on wealth, fame and status
and used her talents to make it to the top; Mrs President. You should
all be thrilled.


Janet UK

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:16:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-11-11 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> According to CNN
> >> Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
> >> compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
> >> median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
> >> $82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report found.
> >
> >
> >Notice the big jump in incomes where there is college education. If more
> >people who think of themselves as oppressed minorities would buy into
> >the value of education you would likely see higher average incomes.
>
> The big success of Germany is the value they put in trade schools.
> Every society needs tradespeople and good ones, they are the doers and
> movers as opposed to the Liberal Arts Graduate.

I'm an Arts Graduate and boy am I a mover and a shaker!

In article > , Janet
says...
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > Probably, since she speaks six languages.
> >
> > So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?
>
> Acquiring six languages fluently suggests an enquiring mind ,a long
> attention span, perseverance, good observation and memory. That skillset
> is a good indicator of high intelligence.

Have we ever heard her speak those languages? In can count till ten in
Swedish. Fluently!

Well, Jill, thanks for the perspective. I am thinking only of having the proper amount
of respect for an American treasure...but there are many advisors who hang about the WH,
and I should not jump to conclusions. We shall see. I have some personal experience
with a Russian-language-country native, who married into my family, and I was constantly
surprised at her total un-assimilation here, including respect for our practices and
culture. (She was an educated woman, a physician in her country). I hope I am pleasantly
surprised by Mrs. Trump.

N.

On 11/11/2016 3:20 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/11/2016 12:54 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> The Greatest wrote:
>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>> The Greatest wrote:
>>>>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bruce, +1.
>>>>>>>> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what
>>>>>>>> she could do
>>>>>>>> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter,
>>>>>>>> Ivanka, who
>>>>>>>> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a
>>>>>>>> Slovenian
>>>>>>>> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
>>
>> Bruthie is the classic loser who resents those with more than himself,
>> which means he resents most everyone.
>>
>>>>>> Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
>>>>>> ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
>>>>>> Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
>>>>>> asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also
>>>>>> easier on
>>>>>> the eyes than all other first ladys.
>>>>>
>>>>> But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
>>>>> that make her?
>>>>
>>>> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a
>>>> Donald rather
>>> than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to
>>> have nice things,
>>> a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the
>>> resources to
>>> stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza
>>> waitress or
>>> washerwoman until her end days...???
>>>
>>> Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.
>>
>> Inner beauty doesn't fade and that's what's important. However
>> Melania will still be gorgeous when she's eighty.
>>
>>> There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
>>> a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
>>> First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
>>> professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
>>> rather than depend on some man.
>>
>> How bitter and unfullfilled you sound. You're as deaf, dumb, and
>> BLIND as all those pollsters who got it wrong, simply because none are
>> so blind as those who will not see... buncha biased *******s.
>> Along with being extremely attractive Melania is a very intelligent
>> woman who was doing fine on her own before she met The Donald and
>> would have done fine without becoming a Trump. But you sure sound
>> like the queen of sour grapes, obviously envious because you married a
>> nobody, if you are even married... with your extremely negative
>> attitude and closed mindedness no real man would associate with you.
>>
>
> Here we go again with the idea a woman must be married. Heh.
>
and at the kitchen sink, barefoot and pregnant!

On 11/11/2016 5:01 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:16:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-11-11 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> According to CNN
>>> Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
>>> compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
>>> median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
>>> $82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report found.
>>
>>
>> Notice the big jump in incomes where there is college education. If more
>> people who think of themselves as oppressed minorities would buy into
>> the value of education you would likely see higher average incomes.
>
> The big success of Germany is the value they put in trade schools.
> Every society needs tradespeople and good ones, they are the doers and
> movers as opposed to the Liberal Arts Graduate.
>
Yebbut we need people to staff Starbucks!

On 11/11/2016 6:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-11 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>
>> According to CNN
>> Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
>> compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
>> median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
>> $82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report
>> found.
>
>
> Notice the big jump in incomes where there is college education. If more
> people who think of themselves as oppressed minorities would buy into
> the value of education you would likely see higher average incomes.

College? Look at the numbers of high school dropouts. Runs about 10%
these days. I've had some apply for a job but all they get is "come
back when you have a diploma or GED"

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:33:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 11/11/2016 6:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-11-11 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> According to CNN
>>> Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
>>> compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
>>> median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
>>> $82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report
>>> found.
>>
>>
>> Notice the big jump in incomes where there is college education. If more
>> people who think of themselves as oppressed minorities would buy into
>> the value of education you would likely see higher average incomes.
>
>College? Look at the numbers of high school dropouts. Runs about 10%
>these days. I've had some apply for a job but all they get is "come
>back when you have a diploma or GED"

I blame a lot of that on the 'no child must fail' syndrome. Some do
and it is best they stay back a year and re-learn and grasp what they
didn't do the previous year. Move them on and they definitely won't
be able to cope and thus likely become a dropout.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 08:34:46 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
> wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:10:35 PM UTC-5, The Greatest! wrote:
>> > Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article >, Brooklyn1
>> > > says...
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 06:50:14 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >Nancy2 wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Bruce, +1.
>> > > > >> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
>> > > > >> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
>> > > > >> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
>> > > > >> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
>> > > >
>> > > > Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
>> > > > ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
>> > > > Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
>> > > > asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
>> > > > the eyes than all other first ladys.
>> > >
>> > > But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
>> > > that make her?
>> >
>> >
>> > What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things, a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to *stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or washerwoman until her end days...???
>>
>> Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.
>>
>> There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
>> a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
>> First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
>> professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
>> rather than depend on some man.
>
>
>Yup, Cindy, women can find a great career in STEM. I'm in workforce development and a number of women have found GREAT careers in skilled manufacturing trades. A local agency has a welding program for women, those grads are snapped right up (always multiple offers)...good money and bennies right out the gate.
>
>http://www.jane-addams.org/programs/...-job-training/
>
>"Women in Manufacturing Program (WMP) — A 32 week, 240 hour welding program that is designed for working female heads of households. The curriculum and certifications are the same as the Welding Fast Track but the program and wrap around support services are customized to meet the needs of this demographic. Classes are held part-time on a case-by-case schedule, as determined by work schedule..."
>
>
>Interestingly, one of my social worker pals, works for a homeless services agency, transitioned from a civil engineering career, she was specifically a bridge engineer! I asked, "Why on earth did you leave engineering!?", she replied, 'I like helping people..." [!!!]
>
>Many don't realize this, but there is a CRYING need for skilled manufacturing and trades jobs, there is plenty of training out there for those so inclined. Thousands of those jobs here in Chicagoland are going begging, manufacturing and engineering firms would like to expand, they simply can't find the skilled workers they need...and now there are training programs specifically for women, they'd be smart to take advantage!

I agree 500%. I worked at a National Laboratory for 25 years as a
master tool & diemaker. Nat'l Labs are very liberal, they initiated
many apprenticeship programs for skilled trades and gave preference to
females and minorities. Out of all we tried to train not one took the
program seriously, all eventually dropped out, they wasted a lot of
resources and their own lives. Had they applied themselves they'd
have jobs today paying over $80K plus 20K in OT and great benies.
Without toolmakers no society can exist... since the beginning of
recorded history there have been only two useful occupations,
toolmaker and who
http://i67.tinypic.com/4lpm4o.jpg

I'm sorry. I thought I was coming to a cooking forum.
Please pardon me. I'll keep looking.

On 2016-11-11 7:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article > , Janet
> says...
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably, since she speaks six languages.
>>>
>>> So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?
>>
>> Acquiring six languages fluently suggests an enquiring mind ,a long
>> attention span, perseverance, good observation and memory. That skillset
>> is a good indicator of high intelligence.
>
> Have we ever heard her speak those languages? In can count till ten in
> Swedish. Fluently!
>
Jag hetter Dave. Jag toller inte Svenske.

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-11-11 7:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article > , Janet
> > says...
> >>
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Probably, since she speaks six languages.
> >>>
> >>> So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?
> >>
> >> Acquiring six languages fluently suggests an enquiring mind ,a long
> >> attention span, perseverance, good observation and memory. That skillset
> >> is a good indicator of high intelligence.
> >
> > Have we ever heard her speak those languages? In can count till ten in
> > Swedish. Fluently!
> >
> Jag hetter Dave. Jag toller inte Svenske.

There you go. You're at least bilingual.

On 2016-11-11 8:45 PM, wrote:
> I'm sorry. I thought I was coming to a cooking forum.
> Please pardon me. I'll keep looking.
>
Hmm.. your one and only contribution..... under than name.

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 2:07:26 PM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > Probably, since she speaks six languages.
> >
> > So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?
>
> Acquiring six languages fluently suggests an enquiring mind ,a long
> attention span, perseverance, good observation and memory. That skillset
> is a good indicator of high intelligence.
>
> Isn't America supposed to be the land of unlimited opportunity for
> the ambitious and determined? She personifies the American Dream; an
> immigrant from a poor country set her sights on wealth, fame and status
> and used her talents to make it to the top; Mrs President. You should
> all be thrilled.
>
>
> Janet UK

Americans have been indoctrinated with this idea of a country without limits since early age. Unfortunately, most of them no longer believe in it. They have become fat, lazy, and hope to reap the benefits given to them by the people that came before. The only folks that truly believe are those new Americans and those hoping to become Americans. The hope and ideals of America burns brightly and deeply within them.

On 11/11/2016 10:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 2:07:26 PM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 2016-11-11, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably, since she speaks six languages.
>>>
>>> So what?..... Five other nationalities also know she's stupid?
>>
>> Acquiring six languages fluently suggests an enquiring mind ,a long
>> attention span, perseverance, good observation and memory. That skillset
>> is a good indicator of high intelligence.
>>
>> Isn't America supposed to be the land of unlimited opportunity for
>> the ambitious and determined? She personifies the American Dream; an
>> immigrant from a poor country set her sights on wealth, fame and status
>> and used her talents to make it to the top; Mrs President. You should
>> all be thrilled.
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> Americans have been indoctrinated with this idea of a country without limits since early age. Unfortunately, most of them no longer believe in it. They have become fat, lazy, and hope to reap the benefits given to them by the people that came before. The only folks that truly believe are those new Americans and those hoping to become Americans. The hope and ideals of America burns brightly and deeply within them.
>

Ahhhh, yes. The government should give it to me.

On 11/11/2016 8:45 PM, wrote:
> I'm sorry. I thought I was coming to a cooking forum.
> Please pardon me. I'll keep looking.
>
Obviously you're bright enough to figure out from the subject line it's
OT. Skip those threads and you'll find quite a few about food and
cooking. You might consider getting a real newsreader while you're at
it. Despite what Google would have you believe this isn't a web-based
"forum". This is Usenet. Older than dirt.

Welcome to rec.food.cooking. Known for decades as 'The Chaotic
Kitchen.' Often described as a diverse group of people sitting around a
table, talking. When you dine with a group of people, is food the only
thing you talk about?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Jill

On 11/10/2016 6:52 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:32:17 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 06:50:14 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce, +1.
>>>> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
>>>> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
>>>> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
>>>> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
>>
>> Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
>> ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
>> Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
>> asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
>> the eyes than all other first ladys.
>
> You betcha! Lotsa class. Every time she visits a foreign country the
> newspapers can print photos of her.
> Now you got some pics for your bathroom use
> http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article...lady-erections
> Janet US
>

Hot stuff for sure.

Must make an old bag like you seethe with jealousy, LOLOLOL!!!

On 11/10/2016 7:12 PM, Bruce wrote:
> It must still be hard to be proud of a country that treats you as 2nd
> class.

Little dutch boys get that in Oz?

Oh well.

On 11/11/2016 6:35 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Does she know any
> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> why I said I hope she is a fast learner.

**** off hate-hag, you're time is over on this stage.

On 11/11/2016 7:00 AM, wrote:
> How ostentatious and god awful. Typical though.

Compared to:


http://www.npr.org/sections/parallel...prime-minister

On 11/11/2016 7:01 AM, wrote:
> Do we know if Melania can read ?

Do we know if pure hatred is a substitute for mental activity?

On 11/11/2016 7:11 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Outsiders sometimes know more about the real history than the people who
> live there.
>

Not you, trucker-cop.

On 11/11/2016 8:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> She went to university for a year.
>
> That would make her a drop out.

Reach for the merest of denigration cards, you emotional shitbag.

On 11/11/2016 9:37 AM, Bruce wrote:
> I wonder what the average "black" income is vs the average "white"
> income.

Lower by a significant number since Obozo came to power.

On 11/11/2016 9:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Trump has a face and a character only a mother can love. Why is Melania
> with him then? And what does that make her?

Someone who sees more than the packaging.