On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:40:45 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:56:07 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >>
> >> I generally do not enjoy sweet citrus with meat.
> >
> >Not on beef but how about chicken?
> >
> >I baked 2 chicken thighs the other day with just a slight brush
> >of orange marmalade on them. Delicious. That stuff is
> >strong though...you have to go very easy with it.
> >
> >The first time I tried it I slathered them with OM and
> >it overpowered the chicken.,
>
> Meat and fruit do not go together for me. Lemon is a seasoning as far
> as I am concerned. But raisins, pineapple, orange, etc., in a meat
> dish is not pleasant for me.
> Janet US

I'm with you. Anything sour (lemon, lime, etc.) ok. No other fruit
with meat.

Cindy Hamilton

On 16 Nov 2016 15:13:37 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2016-11-15, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > No it is not the same. Simmering meat in a simmering liquid for a long
> > time cooks and softens the meat. Boiling it makes it tough.
>
> Both will leach out beef flavor.
>
Sounds like you're over cooking it.


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On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:31:13 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

> I said I don't like a particular food very much. I get told I have to
> take a picture of my dinner. I was focused on how that doesn't make
> sense.

You're nit picking as if you know better and you don't.


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On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:27:34 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 11/15/2016 3:13 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:49:56 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> Simmered in water beef is alway a FAIL imo.
> >
> > How do you make beef stock?
> >
> >
> Excellent! More to the point, does he *make* beef stock or buy it in a
> box/carton?
>
> I don't recall if it was Gary but someone jumped all over me for using
> boxed chicken broth in something... sosueme, I didn't have any homemade
> stock in the freezer. Boxed stock/broth does have it's uses. I can't
> recall the last time I cooked a beef roast in plain water.
>
> Season the roast beef well with S&P then brown it. Then add beef broth
> or stock (not enough liquid to cover it). Seasonings make all the
> difference, too. In my world pot roast begs for a bay leaf or two.
>
> The real key is browning the beef first. Get a nice dark colour on it.
> If you don't do that first then no matter what follows you will surely
> wind up with a boring, bland "simmered" beef.
>
Yes, it's obvious that he doesn't understand the process.



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On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > >
> > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > death beef and vegetables.
> > >
> > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
>
> No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
>
> I can do better with whatever cut of meat you use for that.
>
> Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh

Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
bad cooking?


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In article >, sf says...
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > > >
> > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > >
> > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> >
> > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> >
> > I can do better with whatever cut of meat you use for that.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> > It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> > when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> > and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
>
> Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> bad cooking?

Isn't cooking what this group is about? And it's not called
rec.food.good.cooking.

On 2016-11-16 1:40 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:56:07 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>>
>> The first time I tried it I slathered them with OM and
>> it overpowered the chicken.,
>
> Meat and fruit do not go together for me. Lemon is a seasoning as far
> as I am concerned. But raisins, pineapple, orange, etc., in a meat
> dish is not pleasant for me.


Pity. I find a lot of meats taste much better when cooked with fruit or
served with fruit condiments. I like apple sauce with pork and cranberry
sauce with turkey or chicken. When I make curry I add chopped dried
apricots.

In article > ,
lid says...
>
> In article >, sf says...
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > sf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > > >
> > > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> > >
> > > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> > >
> > > I can do better with whatever cut of meat you use for that.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> > > It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> > > when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> > > and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
> >
> > Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> > bad cooking?
>
> Isn't cooking what this group is about?

how would you know, you never talk about cooking.

Janet UK

On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 3:31:03 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-16 1:40 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:56:07 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >>
> >> The first time I tried it I slathered them with OM and
> >> it overpowered the chicken.,
> >
> > Meat and fruit do not go together for me. Lemon is a seasoning as far
> > as I am concerned. But raisins, pineapple, orange, etc., in a meat
> > dish is not pleasant for me.
>
>
> Pity. I find a lot of meats taste much better when cooked with fruit or
> served with fruit condiments. I like apple sauce with pork and cranberry
> sauce with turkey or chicken. When I make curry I add chopped dried
> apricots.

Why is it a pity? She cooks the way she likes, you cook the way you
like, and everybody is happy.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/16/2016 12:41 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:27:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> The real key is browning the beef first. Get a nice dark colour on it.
>> If you don't do that first then no matter what follows you will surely
>> wind up with a boring, bland "simmered" beef.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Excellent point, Jill. You have to brown the meat really well before
> adding a liquid. I like to cut an onion or so in large chunks and
> allow it to get good and brown also. Then I plop the browned roast on
> top of the onions and add the liquid and any additional seasonings.
> With this approach the liquid in the pot is already dark and flavorful
> before the roast begins to cook. You can't just put a hunk of meat in
> the pot with some water -- it will taste boiled.
> Janet US
>
Gary is bound and determined not to like pot roast.

Jill

In article >, jmcquown says...
>
> On 11/16/2016 12:41 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:27:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The real key is browning the beef first. Get a nice dark colour on it.
> >> If you don't do that first then no matter what follows you will surely
> >> wind up with a boring, bland "simmered" beef.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Excellent point, Jill. You have to brown the meat really well before
> > adding a liquid. I like to cut an onion or so in large chunks and
> > allow it to get good and brown also. Then I plop the browned roast on
> > top of the onions and add the liquid and any additional seasonings.
> > With this approach the liquid in the pot is already dark and flavorful
> > before the roast begins to cook. You can't just put a hunk of meat in
> > the pot with some water -- it will taste boiled.
> > Janet US
> >
> Gary is bound and determined not to like pot roast.

Like you and tuna?

On 2016-11-16 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>

>> Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
>> It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
>> when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
>> and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
>
> Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> bad cooking?

Keep things in perspective. He actually likes McDonalds food.
I can understand why some people don't like pot roast or stew. They were
likely raised on badly braised dishes and never mastered the technique.
I am lucky that my mother in law had mastered braising and passed it on
to my wife. Megatron is the braising queen. She makes great pot roast
and great stews.

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-11-16 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
>
> >> Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> >> It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> >> when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> >> and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
> >
> > Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> > bad cooking?
>
> Keep things in perspective. He actually likes McDonalds food.
> I can understand why some people don't like pot roast or stew. They were
> likely raised on badly braised dishes and never mastered the technique.

Just accept that some people have better taste than fuddy duddies who
are getting ready for nursing home food.

On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:05:09 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:56:07 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I generally do not enjoy sweet citrus with meat.
>> >
>> >Not on beef but how about chicken?
>> >
>> >I baked 2 chicken thighs the other day with just a slight brush
>> >of orange marmalade on them. Delicious. That stuff is
>> >strong though...you have to go very easy with it.
>> >
>> >The first time I tried it I slathered them with OM and
>> >it overpowered the chicken.,
>>
>> Meat and fruit do not go together for me. Lemon is a seasoning as far
>> as I am concerned. But raisins, pineapple, orange, etc., in a meat
>> dish is not pleasant for me.
>> Janet US
>
> Not even.. roast pork and apple sauce? Baked ham and pineapple?
>
> Janet UK

roast pork with applesauce side is wonderful. I would never eat ham
decorated with pineapple. I don't want a savory dish that has a
component of fruit.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:56:07 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>
>>> I generally do not enjoy sweet citrus with meat.
>>
>>Not on beef but how about chicken?
>>
>>I baked 2 chicken thighs the other day with just a slight brush
>>of orange marmalade on them. Delicious. That stuff is
>>strong though...you have to go very easy with it.
>>
>>The first time I tried it I slathered them with OM and
>>it overpowered the chicken.,
>
> Meat and fruit do not go together for me. Lemon is a seasoning as far
> as I am concerned. But raisins, pineapple, orange, etc., in a meat
> dish is not pleasant for me.
> Janet US

I love the combo, but dh hates it, so I usually make one or two for me and
the rest for him.

Cheri

On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:06:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > > >
> > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > >
> > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> >
> > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
>
> Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
>
I think he misses Julie.


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In article >, sf says...
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:06:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > sf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > > >
> > > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> > >
> > > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> >
> > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> >
> I think he misses Julie.

I'm reading this thread too and I also don't like pot roast. Does that
me a bad person make?

Apple and pork is great, I love duck with orange sauce... I've also had a few seafood dishes with pineapple which were pretty good too.

On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 5:14:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >
> > On 2016-11-16 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >> Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> > >> It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> > >> when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> > >> and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
> > >
> > > Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> > > bad cooking?
> >
> > Keep things in perspective. He actually likes McDonalds food.
> > I can understand why some people don't like pot roast or stew. They were
> > likely raised on badly braised dishes and never mastered the technique.
>
> Just accept that some people have better taste than fuddy duddies who
> are getting ready for nursing home food.

You know, it's possible to like both comfort (fuddy duddy) food and
more exciting things. But, of course, it's your right to be bigoted
about various foods. Your loss.

Cindy Hamilton

I'd like to know what Bruce considers non-fuddy-duddy food to be. His choices have surely are old-hat to others too. Maybe he likes modern stuff like Maccas and kfc.

On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:56:42 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, sf says...
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:06:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > > sf wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:


> > > > >
> > > > > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> > > >
> > > > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > > > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> > >
> > > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> > >
> > I think he misses Julie.
>
> I'm reading this thread too and I also don't like pot roast. Does that
> me a bad person make?

Obviously, you've never eaten a properly prepared "pot roast" or
you'd have a different opinion. Perhaps you need to download a
number of recipes and experiment.
=====

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:10:06 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Gary is bound and determined not to like pot roast.
>
> He's definitely giving it his best in this round of trolling. He
> knows he being ridiculous and doesn't have the cooking experience to
> make such sweeping statements.

I never start out to troll but when some here get so offended that I
don't like their comfort food, it's hard not to tease them on and troll
a bit. Easy marks here.

Funny how most resort to "you don't know how to cook." lol

Janet wrote:
>
> Not even.. roast pork and apple sauce? Baked ham and pineapple?

Also ham with raisin sauce. Nice compliment, imo.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.

I read ALL threads and posts here, Cindy. Don't get offended because I
don't like the same food as you do. My opinion is just as valid as
yours. It's food talk. I never jumped on you when you said you and your
hubby trap possums and then he drowns them in "a humane way." I was
horrified but I let that go.

It's usenet here. Accept opposing views or just go to the more friendly
RFC Facebook group.

sf wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's patently obvious that you don't know how to cook... I'm postive
> > > > > that for you the acme of fine dining is a drive thru burger joint.
> > > >
> > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery boiled to
> > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > >
> > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> >
> > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> >
> > I can do better with whatever cut of meat you use for that.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> > It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> > when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> > and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
>
> Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> bad cooking?

Typical liberal name calling from you. Not unexpected. Don't have an
argument, just say I can't cook.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 11/16/2016 12:41 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:27:34 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The real key is browning the beef first. Get a nice dark colour on it.
> >> If you don't do that first then no matter what follows you will surely
> >> wind up with a boring, bland "simmered" beef.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Excellent point, Jill. You have to brown the meat really well before
> > adding a liquid. I like to cut an onion or so in large chunks and
> > allow it to get good and brown also. Then I plop the browned roast on
> > top of the onions and add the liquid and any additional seasonings.
> > With this approach the liquid in the pot is already dark and flavorful
> > before the roast begins to cook. You can't just put a hunk of meat in
> > the pot with some water -- it will taste boiled.
> > Janet US
> >
> Gary is bound and determined not to like pot roast.

Yeah, just like YOU are bound and determined not to like:
- canned tuna
- cole slaw
- maple flavored sausage
- pea soup (looks like vomit)

The list goes on with your dislikes. Why pick on me for not liking pot
roast.
It's not MY bad cooking. I've had 3 people serve it to me and I've tried
two different recipes myself. So that's 5 tries that has nothing to do
with my cooking ability.

It's a meal with dead tasteless meat and somewhat bland. Again....I
don't hate it but I'd never look forward to it.

sf wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> >
> I think he misses Julie.

1) You're not supposed to say the "J" word here.
2) Damn right I miss her and her long stories.
All her problems aside, she is a much nicer person than you.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:23:34 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> > Funny how most resort to "you don't know how to cook." lol
>
> Well???

heheh OK then, wiseguy. Let's just say I cook quite well enough
for me. That's all that matters.

On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:15:30 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
>
> I read ALL threads and posts here, Cindy. Don't get offended because I
> don't like the same food as you do.

I'm not offended. I just can see reading threads that aren't interesting.

I'm currently skipping "Hruum?" and "sweet and sour sauce recipe".
The first, because it's a meta-discussion about usenet news providers,
and the second because I don't like sweet and sour.

> My opinion is just as valid as
> yours. It's food talk.

Of course it is. Why read about food you know you dislike? It's
asking for trouble.


Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 5:14:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, Dave Smith says...
> > >
> > > On 2016-11-16 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:20:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > >> Don't get me wrong either. Pot roast is not nasty or anything to me.
> > > >> It's a bit tasty but it's certainly not something to get excited about
> > > >> when you hear that's what will be for dinner. I'd rather skip dinner
> > > >> and grab a few burgers and fries. heheh
> > > >
> > > > Why bother polluting the thread with a dislike which is based on your
> > > > bad cooking?
> > >
> > > Keep things in perspective. He actually likes McDonalds food.
> > > I can understand why some people don't like pot roast or stew. They were
> > > likely raised on badly braised dishes and never mastered the technique.
> >
> > Just accept that some people have better taste than fuddy duddies who
> > are getting ready for nursing home food.
>
> You know, it's possible to like both comfort (fuddy duddy) food and
> more exciting things. But, of course, it's your right to be bigoted
> about various foods. Your loss.

You missed that I was severely provoked by Dave's suggestion that I was
raised on badly braised dishes. Or you didn't miss it but didn't find
that worthy of an offensive reply ("bigoted")

Of course there's nothing wrong with pot roasts. You either like them or
you don't, like with everything.

In article >,
Jebus Jones says...
>
> I'd like to know what Bruce considers non-fuddy-duddy food to be. His choices have surely are old-hat to others too. Maybe he likes modern stuff like Maccas and kfc.

I find "meat and 3 vege" fuddy duddy and everything else not fuddy duddy

In article >, Roy
says...
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:56:42 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, sf says...
> > >
> > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:06:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > > > sf wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery
> > > > > > > boiled to
> > > > > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > > > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> > > > >
> > > > > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > > > > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> > > >
> > > > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> > > >
> > > I think he misses Julie.
> >
> > I'm reading this thread too and I also don't like pot roast. Does that
> > me a bad person make?
>
> Obviously, you've never eaten a properly prepared "pot roast" or
> you'd have a different opinion. Perhaps you need to download a
> number of recipes and experiment.
> =====

Or perhaps I'm just not too keen on pot roasts. Just like I don't demand
that y'all love spicey tofu stir fries.

In article >, Gary says...
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:10:06 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > Gary is bound and determined not to like pot roast.
> >
> > He's definitely giving it his best in this round of trolling. He
> > knows he being ridiculous and doesn't have the cooking experience to
> > make such sweeping statements.
>
> I never start out to troll but when some here get so offended that I
> don't like their comfort food, it's hard not to tease them on and troll
> a bit. Easy marks here.
>
> Funny how most resort to "you don't know how to cook." lol

Yes. "You don't like what I like? Then you don't know how to cook." And
they call me a bigot

In article >, Gary says...
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
>
> I read ALL threads and posts here, Cindy. Don't get offended because I
> don't like the same food as you do. My opinion is just as valid as
> yours. It's food talk. I never jumped on you when you said you and your
> hubby trap possums and then he drowns them in "a humane way." I was
> horrified but I let that go.

I missed that. Humane drowning. Is that like humane strangling? Or
humane beheading?

On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, Roy
> says...
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:56:42 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >, sf says...
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:06:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > > > > sf wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery
> > > > > > > > boiled to
> > > > > > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > > > > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > > > > > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> > > > >
> > > > I think he misses Julie.
> > >
> > > I'm reading this thread too and I also don't like pot roast. Does that
> > > me a bad person make?
> >
> > Obviously, you've never eaten a properly prepared "pot roast" or
> > you'd have a different opinion. Perhaps you need to download a
> > number of recipes and experiment.
> > =====
>
> Or perhaps I'm just not too keen on pot roasts. Just like I don't demand
> that y'all love spicey tofu stir fries.

As it happens, I love spicy tofu stir fries. And pot roast.

In fact, I've had tofu much more often in the past couple of years
than I've had pot roast (which is zero since we've started losing
weight in a serious fashion).

What I object to, is characterizing pot roast as "old people food".
"I don't care for pot roast" is fine. "Nursing home food" is an
insult to pot-roast lovers everywhere.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:40:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, Gary says...
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> >
> > I read ALL threads and posts here, Cindy. Don't get offended because I
> > don't like the same food as you do. My opinion is just as valid as
> > yours. It's food talk. I never jumped on you when you said you and your
> > hubby trap possums and then he drowns them in "a humane way." I was
> > horrified but I let that go.
>
> I missed that. Humane drowning. Is that like humane strangling? Or
> humane beheading?

It's more humane than a leg-hold trap, or allowing the animal to
starve in the live trap.

He'd use a gun if we lived farther out in the country, although drowning
leaves less of a mess to clean up.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, Roy
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 11:56:42 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> > > > In article >, sf says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:06:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > > > > > sf wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:50:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I would gladly rather eat burger joint burgers than watery
> > > > > > > > > boiled to
> > > > > > > > > death beef and vegetables.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gary, I have absolutely no idea what you did to stew - but it sounds
> > > > > > > > like you murdered it. Therefore, your opinion doesn't count.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No ones opinion of a "good" pot roast counts with me. Not even yours. As
> > > > > > > Bruce said, it's just old ppl food. Bland but filling.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I think he misses Julie.
> > > >
> > > > I'm reading this thread too and I also don't like pot roast. Does that
> > > > me a bad person make?
> > >
> > > Obviously, you've never eaten a properly prepared "pot roast" or
> > > you'd have a different opinion. Perhaps you need to download a
> > > number of recipes and experiment.
> > > =====
> >
> > Or perhaps I'm just not too keen on pot roasts. Just like I don't demand
> > that y'all love spicey tofu stir fries.
>
> As it happens, I love spicy tofu stir fries. And pot roast.
>
> In fact, I've had tofu much more often in the past couple of years
> than I've had pot roast (which is zero since we've started losing
> weight in a serious fashion).
>
> What I object to, is characterizing pot roast as "old people food".
> "I don't care for pot roast" is fine. "Nursing home food" is an
> insult to pot-roast lovers everywhere.

If we all talk like UN diplomats this place becomes a snooze fest. I'm
sure y'all can occasionally handle slightly provocative wording.
Especially since the snootiest, most precious biddies have already
killfiled me anyway

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:40:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, Gary says...
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why the hell do you read a thread labeled POT ROAST ? Just skip it.
> > >
> > > I read ALL threads and posts here, Cindy. Don't get offended because I
> > > don't like the same food as you do. My opinion is just as valid as
> > > yours. It's food talk. I never jumped on you when you said you and your
> > > hubby trap possums and then he drowns them in "a humane way." I was
> > > horrified but I let that go.
> >
> > I missed that. Humane drowning. Is that like humane strangling? Or
> > humane beheading?
>
> It's more humane than a leg-hold trap, or allowing the animal to
> starve in the live trap.
>
> He'd use a gun if we lived farther out in the country, although drowning
> leaves less of a mess to clean up.

Maybe you shouldn't use the word 'humane' to describe the torture
practices you two engage in.

On 2016-11-17 2:35 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> Cindy Hamilton says...

>> You know, it's possible to like both comfort (fuddy duddy) food and
>> more exciting things. But, of course, it's your right to be bigoted
>> about various foods. Your loss.
>
> You missed that I was severely provoked by Dave's suggestion that I was
> raised on badly braised dishes.

Wow. For someone who likes to dish out so many insults I had not idea
that you were such a suck.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:23:34 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>
>> > Funny how most resort to "you don't know how to cook." lol
>>
>> Well???
>
> heheh OK then, wiseguy. Let's just say I cook quite well enough
> for me. That's all that matters.

Bingo!!!

Cheri