On 12/5/2016 7:37 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 05:48:16 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/5/2016 3:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2016-12-04 3:09 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These types of things were always happening. We just hear and see more
>>>>>>>>> about them. Be happy you didn't get as much information about the
>>>>>>>>> Vietnam war, back in the day. Or take Hiroshima/Nagasaki.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the world's no more rotten than it used to be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that's correct then we are guilty of not correcting it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We cannot correct the wrongs of the past that we done by previous
>>>>>>> generations. Nor should we be expected to pay for those wrongs after we
>>>>>>> have changed our ethos. I refuse to feel guilty for nuclear attacks on
>>>>>>> Japan that we the decisions of my grandparent's generation. By the same
>>>>>>> token, I do not hold the Japanese of today responsible for the
>>>>>>> atrocities committed by their parents, grandparents and great grandparents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to acknowledge the
>>>>>> wrongs committed by the previous generations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
>>>>> his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
>>>
>>> I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hard to beat Joe Stalin.
>
> True but he mostly killed his own. I read his daughters book recently
> and she confessed she suddenly made a connection in her teens that any
> relatives or friends who crossed him just 'disappeared' - as well as
> millions of strangers.
>

Killing your own is somehow better than killing an enemy?

On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 08:19:21 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 12/5/2016 7:37 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 05:48:16 -0800, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/5/2016 3:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article >, Dave Smith says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-04 3:09 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These types of things were always happening. We just hear and see more
>>>>>>>>>> about them. Be happy you didn't get as much information about the
>>>>>>>>>> Vietnam war, back in the day. Or take Hiroshima/Nagasaki.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think the world's no more rotten than it used to be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If that's correct then we are guilty of not correcting it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We cannot correct the wrongs of the past that we done by previous
>>>>>>>> generations. Nor should we be expected to pay for those wrongs after we
>>>>>>>> have changed our ethos. I refuse to feel guilty for nuclear attacks on
>>>>>>>> Japan that we the decisions of my grandparent's generation. By the same
>>>>>>>> token, I do not hold the Japanese of today responsible for the
>>>>>>>> atrocities committed by their parents, grandparents and great grandparents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to acknowledge the
>>>>>>> wrongs committed by the previous generations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
>>>>>> his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hard to beat Joe Stalin.
>>
>> True but he mostly killed his own. I read his daughters book recently
>> and she confessed she suddenly made a connection in her teens that any
>> relatives or friends who crossed him just 'disappeared' - as well as
>> millions of strangers.
>>
>
>Killing your own is somehow better than killing an enemy?

Not at all, but it does mean the rising must come from within, which
it eventually did.

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article >, Dave Smith says...
> > > >>
> > > >> We cannot correct the wrongs of the past that we done by
> > > >> previous
> > > >> generations. Nor should we be expected to pay for those wrongs after we
> > > >> have changed our ethos. I refuse to feel guilty for nuclear attacks on
> > > >> Japan that we the decisions of my grandparent's generation. By the same
> > > >> token, I do not hold the Japanese of today responsible for the
> > > >> atrocities committed by their parents, grandparents and great grandparents.
> > > >
> > > >I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to acknowledge the
> > > >wrongs committed by the previous generations.
> > >
> > > Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
> > > his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
> >
> > I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
>
> I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.

Yes, but that's not the western world.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 03:15:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >In article >, Dave Smith says...
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2016-12-04 3:09 PM, wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >> These types of things were always happening. We just hear and see more
>> > >> >> about them. Be happy you didn't get as much information about the
>> > >> >> Vietnam war, back in the day. Or take Hiroshima/Nagasaki.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I think the world's no more rotten than it used to be.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > If that's correct then we are guilty of not correcting it!
>> > >>
>> > >> We cannot correct the wrongs of the past that we done by previous
>> > >> generations. Nor should we be expected to pay for those wrongs after we
>> > >> have changed our ethos. I refuse to feel guilty for nuclear attacks on
>> > >> Japan that we the decisions of my grandparent's generation. By the same
>> > >> token, I do not hold the Japanese of today responsible for the
>> > >> atrocities committed by their parents, grandparents and great grandparents.
>> > >
>> > >I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to acknowledge the
>> > >wrongs committed by the previous generations.
>> >
>> > Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
>> > his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
>>
>> I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
>
>I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.

They do, but he did specify the western world.

On Mon, 05 Dec 2016 11:37:53 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 05:48:16 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:
>
>>On 12/5/2016 3:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>> I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
>>>
>>> I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.
>>>
>>
>>Hard to beat Joe Stalin.
>
>True but he mostly killed his own.

So did the Khmer Rouge. And killing their own makes it worse, I would
have thought.

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 18:53:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-04 3:47 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>> Right, it doesn't happen anywhere else
>>
>> Funny how they have to continually make such statements when it's a
>> given in any other 'democracy'
>
>Celebrities and companies are well advised to keep their religion and
>their politics to themselves. They may feel a need to express themselves
>or to lend support to a cause, but they need to be aware of the fact
>that, while their views may appeal to a segment of society with which
>they like to identify, they would raise the ire of a much larger number
>of people.

I would assume they're aware of that (or at least partially aware of
it, I'm thinking more about celebrities here), but some do it
nonetheless. I guess some just stand up for their beliefs, and for
others its a calculated move on their part. Which may or may not
backfire on them.

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:49:03 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> Cindy Hamilton says...
> >
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >In article >, Dave Smith says...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We cannot correct the wrongs of the past that we done by
> > > > >> previous
> > > > >> generations. Nor should we be expected to pay for those wrongs after we
> > > > >> have changed our ethos. I refuse to feel guilty for nuclear attacks on
> > > > >> Japan that we the decisions of my grandparent's generation. By the same
> > > > >> token, I do not hold the Japanese of today responsible for the
> > > > >> atrocities committed by their parents, grandparents and great grandparents.
> > > > >
> > > > >I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to acknowledge the
> > > > >wrongs committed by the previous generations.
> > > >
> > > > Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
> > > > his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
> > >
> > > I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
> >
> > I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.
>
> Yes, but that's not the western world.

True. Why should we confine ourselves to the actions of the
West?

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:49:03 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Cindy Hamilton says...
> > >
> > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to
> > > > > >acknowledge the
> > > > > >wrongs committed by the previous generations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
> > > > > his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
> > >
> > > I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.
> >
> > Yes, but that's not the western world.
>
> True. Why should we confine ourselves to the actions of the
> West?

Only because some of those non western barbarians are out of our league

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:05:53 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> Cindy Hamilton says...
> >
> > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:49:03 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > Cindy Hamilton says...
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:53:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > In article >,
> > > > > says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:12:00 +1100, Bruce >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >I agree, but you can ask the younger generations to
> > > > > > >acknowledge the
> > > > > > >wrongs committed by the previous generations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
> > > > > > his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it's the worst crime in the western world after the Holocaust.
> > > >
> > > > I believe the actions of the Khmer Rouge have it beaten.
> > >
> > > Yes, but that's not the western world.
> >
> > True. Why should we confine ourselves to the actions of the
> > West?
>
> Only because some of those non western barbarians are out of our league
>

People are people all over the world. They suck.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/4/2016 5:27 PM, wrote:
> Even my uncle who did nearly six years in a Nagasaki coal mine after
> his ship was sunk felt the nuclear bombs were too much.


Losing 100's of thousands of Allied lives in a ground invasion being
somehow preferable to his sorry ass?

**** YOU BOTH TO HELL!