http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9

Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so made
a tinypic for ya.

Recipe used as follows (makes 2lbs, I did a freeform loaf and about 10
smaller buns)

1 1/3 c Buttermilk (made from powder and water)
1/3 c water
1-2 TB butter (cut up)
1/2 c hard strong cheese, slivered *
1/3 c firm brie, cut up
4 c flour (mix of all purpose and bread machine, probably 1/4c spelt in
there)
2 TB sugar
1 ts salt
2 ts bread machine yeast

**optional- 3 TB parsley, 2 ts black pepper blend, 1/2 TB poppy seed

Set machine to dough mode and load. I used the first 2 optional items
right away then waited until after first knead to add the poppy seeds
so they'd be in the outer crust. Remove from machine in 1.5 hours
(when it beeps it's done with dough mode) then shape. I used about 1/2
the dough for a long loaf and then made quite a few smaller buns. Set
on a large flat bread pan (I use pam so it doesn't stick) and place in
the oven with the light on. Let rise about 1 hour then remove, heat
oven to 400F and bake 17 minutes and check. If a tap is hollow, it's
ready. I actually do it by color for this recipe but if unsure, the
hollow tap works.

* For the cheese, sorry this one was long unwrapped and not sure other
than it was firm, pale tan inside, and probably was similar to a smoked
gouda yet firmer. Pretty sure at some stage it had a wax rind that's
been peeled off.
--

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>
> Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so made
> a tinypic for ya.

Looks really good!

Cheri

Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> >
> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
> > made a tinypic for ya.
>
> Looks really good!
>
> Cheri

It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?

http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...%20Kitchen?sor
t=3

I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but I
think it's fun to show where I cook.

Carol
--

"Cheri" wrote in message news

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>
> Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so made
> a tinypic for ya.

Looks really good!

Cheri
============

Oh yes! They do indeed)


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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:22:31 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>
> Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so made
> a tinypic for ya.
>
> Recipe used as follows (makes 2lbs, I did a freeform loaf and about 10
> smaller buns)
>
> 1 1/3 c Buttermilk (made from powder and water)
> 1/3 c water
> 1-2 TB butter (cut up)
> 1/2 c hard strong cheese, slivered *
> 1/3 c firm brie, cut up
> 4 c flour (mix of all purpose and bread machine, probably 1/4c spelt in
> there)
> 2 TB sugar
> 1 ts salt
> 2 ts bread machine yeast
>
> **optional- 3 TB parsley, 2 ts black pepper blend, 1/2 TB poppy seed
>
> Set machine to dough mode and load. I used the first 2 optional items
> right away then waited until after first knead to add the poppy seeds
> so they'd be in the outer crust. Remove from machine in 1.5 hours
> (when it beeps it's done with dough mode) then shape. I used about 1/2
> the dough for a long loaf and then made quite a few smaller buns. Set
> on a large flat bread pan (I use pam so it doesn't stick) and place in
> the oven with the light on. Let rise about 1 hour then remove, heat
> oven to 400F and bake 17 minutes and check. If a tap is hollow, it's
> ready. I actually do it by color for this recipe but if unsure, the
> hollow tap works.
>
> * For the cheese, sorry this one was long unwrapped and not sure other
> than it was firm, pale tan inside, and probably was similar to a smoked
> gouda yet firmer. Pretty sure at some stage it had a wax rind that's
> been peeled off.
> --

I'll take the piece in the second row, 3rd from the left. Thank you.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
news
> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>> >
>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
>> > made a tinypic for ya.
>>
>> Looks really good!
>>
>> Cheri
>
> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
>
> http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...%20Kitchen?sor
> t=3
>
> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but I
> think it's fun to show where I cook.
>
> Carol

Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think your
kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it. It
reminds me a lot of mine.

Cheri

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>
> Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so made
> a tinypic for ya.
>
Mmmmmmmmmm.

Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> news
> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> >>> http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> > > >
> >>> Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
> >>> made a tinypic for ya.
> > >
> > > Looks really good!
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
> >
> > http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...enks%20Kitchen
> > ?sor t=3
> >
> > I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but I
> > think it's fun to show where I cook.
> >
> > Carol
>
> Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think
> your kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and
> enjoying it. It reminds me a lot of mine.
>
> Cheri

Ah thats good then! I've since made tomato sauce with a meat
background and the remaining bits are in the crockpot (small one you
see on the counter). It would be amusing to show bits shift about as I
chopped and cooked. The main chopping space is before the microwave
(most accessable).



--

dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:22:31 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> >
> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
> > made a tinypic for ya.
> >
> > Recipe used as follows (makes 2lbs, I did a freeform loaf and about
> > 10 smaller buns)
> >
> > 1 1/3 c Buttermilk (made from powder and water)
> > 1/3 c water
> > 1-2 TB butter (cut up)
> > 1/2 c hard strong cheese, slivered *
> > 1/3 c firm brie, cut up
> > 4 c flour (mix of all purpose and bread machine, probably 1/4c
> > spelt in there)
> > 2 TB sugar
> > 1 ts salt
> > 2 ts bread machine yeast
> >
> > **optional- 3 TB parsley, 2 ts black pepper blend, 1/2 TB poppy seed
> >
> > Set machine to dough mode and load. I used the first 2 optional
> > items right away then waited until after first knead to add the
> > poppy seeds so they'd be in the outer crust. Remove from machine
> > in 1.5 hours (when it beeps it's done with dough mode) then shape.
> > I used about 1/2 the dough for a long loaf and then made quite a
> > few smaller buns. Set on a large flat bread pan (I use pam so it
> > doesn't stick) and place in the oven with the light on. Let rise
> > about 1 hour then remove, heat oven to 400F and bake 17 minutes and
> > check. If a tap is hollow, it's ready. I actually do it by color
> > for this recipe but if unsure, the hollow tap works.
> >
> > * For the cheese, sorry this one was long unwrapped and not sure
> > other than it was firm, pale tan inside, and probably was similar
> > to a smoked gouda yet firmer. Pretty sure at some stage it had a
> > wax rind that's been peeled off.
> > --
>
> I'll take the piece in the second row, 3rd from the left. Thank you.

Snicker, I grabbed the front middle one. It had toes!

--

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"cshenk" > wrote in message
>news
>> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>>> >
>>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
>>> > made a tinypic for ya.
>>>
>>> Looks really good!
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
>>
>> http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...%20Kitchen?sor
>> t=3
>>
>> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but I
>> think it's fun to show where I cook.
>>
>> Carol
>
>Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think your
>kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it. It
>reminds me a lot of mine.
>
>Cheri

You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
with all those small bottles everywhere... there's plenty of space on
those empty walls for for storage cabinets, can even add more counter
space with cabinets below. That ancient fercocktah piece of furniture
looks out of place and takes up a lot of space that would be a lot
more useable. One can only imagine what useless dreck is stuffed into
all those cabinets... I think you need to have a yard sale, or rent a
large dumpster. How/why do people live that way... I'm positive if
someone built you a new kitchen three times as large it would be just
as crammed full of useless dreck in a week. I'd be ascared to see
pictures of shenk's terlit.

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:21:31 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> >news
> >> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>> >
> >>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> >>> >
> >>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
> >>> > made a tinypic for ya.
> >>>
> >>> Looks really good!
> >>>
> >>> Cheri
> >>
> >> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
> >>
> >> http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...%20Kitchen?sor
> >> t=3
> >>
> >> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but I
> >> think it's fun to show where I cook.
> >>
> >> Carol
> >
> >Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think your
> >kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it. It
> >reminds me a lot of mine.
> >
> >Cheri
>
> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
> with all those small bottles everywhere... there's plenty of space on
> those empty walls for for storage cabinets, can even add more counter
> space with cabinets below. That ancient fercocktah piece of furniture
> looks out of place and takes up a lot of space that would be a lot
> more useable. One can only imagine what useless dreck is stuffed into
> all those cabinets... I think you need to have a yard sale, or rent a
> large dumpster. How/why do people live that way... I'm positive if
> someone built you a new kitchen three times as large it would be just
> as crammed full of useless dreck in a week. I'd be ascared to see
> pictures of shenk's terlit.

For Gawd's sake give it a rest. All you do is criticize everyone who posts pictures of their kitchen and what they cook. We all know that you are frickin' perfect and have standards that no one else can ever attain. If you really want to criticize, I could post a picture of mine. That would probably cause you to have a "stroke". Hmmmm!, maybe that would be the ticket.
=====

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:00:40 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:22:31 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> > >
> > > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
> > > made a tinypic for ya.
> > >
> > > Recipe used as follows (makes 2lbs, I did a freeform loaf and about
> > > 10 smaller buns)
> > >
> > > 1 1/3 c Buttermilk (made from powder and water)
> > > 1/3 c water
> > > 1-2 TB butter (cut up)
> > > 1/2 c hard strong cheese, slivered *
> > > 1/3 c firm brie, cut up
> > > 4 c flour (mix of all purpose and bread machine, probably 1/4c
> > > spelt in there)
> > > 2 TB sugar
> > > 1 ts salt
> > > 2 ts bread machine yeast
> > >
> > > **optional- 3 TB parsley, 2 ts black pepper blend, 1/2 TB poppy seed
> > >
> > > Set machine to dough mode and load. I used the first 2 optional
> > > items right away then waited until after first knead to add the
> > > poppy seeds so they'd be in the outer crust. Remove from machine
> > > in 1.5 hours (when it beeps it's done with dough mode) then shape.
> > > I used about 1/2 the dough for a long loaf and then made quite a
> > > few smaller buns. Set on a large flat bread pan (I use pam so it
> > > doesn't stick) and place in the oven with the light on. Let rise
> > > about 1 hour then remove, heat oven to 400F and bake 17 minutes and
> > > check. If a tap is hollow, it's ready. I actually do it by color
> > > for this recipe but if unsure, the hollow tap works.
> > >
> > > * For the cheese, sorry this one was long unwrapped and not sure
> > > other than it was firm, pale tan inside, and probably was similar
> > > to a smoked gouda yet firmer. Pretty sure at some stage it had a
> > > wax rind that's been peeled off.
> > > --
> >
> > I'll take the piece in the second row, 3rd from the left. Thank you.
>
> Snicker, I grabbed the front middle one. It had toes!
>
> --

From your choice, I can tell you're an extroverted, forerunner type. My choice means that I keep things low-key and am pretty conservative. Our choices in bread says a lot!

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >

>>Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think your
>>kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it. It
>>reminds me a lot of mine.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's

Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be so closed
minded and just enjoy your choices without stressing over others choices.

Cheri

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:56:43 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
>
>>>Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think your
>>>kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it. It
>>>reminds me a lot of mine.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
>
>Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be so closed
>minded and just enjoy your choices without stressing over others choices.
>
>Cheri

I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:56:43 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>
>>>>Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think
>>>>your
>>>>kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it.
>>>>It
>>>>reminds me a lot of mine.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
>>
>>Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be so closed
>>minded and just enjoy your choices without stressing over others choices.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.

Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see that some
people hated *your* kitchen, thought it looked old fashioned etc? I love
your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't write a long winded reply about
how ugly it is or how I would hate to have to live in it, or call you a
narrow minded old fuddy duddy who thinks his way is the only way...oh wait,
I just did. Ha Ha

Cheri

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:46:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:56:43 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>
>>>>>Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think
>>>>>your
>>>>>kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying it.
>>>>>It
>>>>>reminds me a lot of mine.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>>> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
>>>
>>>Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be so closed
>>>minded and just enjoy your choices without stressing over others choices.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.
>
>Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see that some
>people hated *your* kitchen, thought it looked old fashioned etc? I love
>your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't write a long winded reply about
>how ugly it is or how I would hate to have to live in it, or call you a
>narrow minded old fuddy duddy who thinks his way is the only way...oh wait,
>I just did. Ha Ha
>
>Cheri

I didn't say I hate your kitchen, all I said is that's it's too
cluttered for me, I wouldn't want to be dusting and wiping down all
those jars/bottles... how do you extrapolate hate from cluttered?
Actually your kitchen is fine, but I would find out of sight places
for all that stuff... there are very nice recessed cabinets that can
be inserted between the wall studs so that they are flush with the
wall... they can be mirrored, have clear glass so you can see what's
inside, or insert your favorite art work. Just examples:
https://www.amazon.com/Stack-On-IWC-...8M6K72YGRZHXV4
https://www.amazon.com/WC-454-Recess...C7QSJ5S46A95SA

On 12/4/2016 12:22 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>
> Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so made
> a tinypic for ya.
>

Looks quite nice!

Jill

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:46:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:56:43 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I think
>>>>>>your
>>>>>>kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and enjoying
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>It
>>>>>>reminds me a lot of mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
>>>>
>>>>Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be so closed
>>>>minded and just enjoy your choices without stressing over others
>>>>choices.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.
>>
>>Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see that some
>>people hated *your* kitchen, thought it looked old fashioned etc? I love
>>your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't write a long winded reply
>>about
>>how ugly it is or how I would hate to have to live in it, or call you a
>>narrow minded old fuddy duddy who thinks his way is the only way...oh
>>wait,
>>I just did. Ha Ha
>>
>>Cheri
>
> I didn't say I hate your kitchen, all I said is that's it's too
> cluttered for me, I wouldn't want to be dusting and wiping down all
> those jars/bottles... how do you extrapolate hate from cluttered?
> Actually your kitchen is fine, but I would find out of sight places
> for all that stuff... there are very nice recessed cabinets that can
> be inserted between the wall studs so that they are flush with the
> wall... they can be mirrored, have clear glass so you can see what's
> inside, or insert your favorite art work. Just examples:

It's not *my* kitchen, and you did say some nasty stuff to cshenk who posted
her pics.

Cheri

In article >, Cheri says...
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:46:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>>
> >>> I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.
> >>
> >>Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see that some
> >>people hated *your* kitchen, thought it looked old fashioned etc? I love
> >>your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't write a long winded reply
> >>about
> >>how ugly it is or how I would hate to have to live in it, or call you a
> >>narrow minded old fuddy duddy who thinks his way is the only way...oh
> >>wait,
> >>I just did. Ha Ha
> >>
> >>Cheri
> >
> > I didn't say I hate your kitchen, all I said is that's it's too
> > cluttered for me, I wouldn't want to be dusting and wiping down all
> > those jars/bottles... how do you extrapolate hate from cluttered?
> > Actually your kitchen is fine, but I would find out of sight places
> > for all that stuff... there are very nice recessed cabinets that can
> > be inserted between the wall studs so that they are flush with the
> > wall... they can be mirrored, have clear glass so you can see what's
> > inside, or insert your favorite art work. Just examples:
>
> It's not *my* kitchen, and you did say some nasty stuff to cshenk who posted
> her pics.

I can just see the house proud man strut through his kitchen, slapping
any intruders with his manbag.

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 12:25:37 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, Cheri says...
> >
> > "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:46:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.
> > >>
> > >>Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see that some
> > >>people hated *your* kitchen, thought it looked old fashioned etc? I love
> > >>your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't write a long winded reply
> > >>about
> > >>how ugly it is or how I would hate to have to live in it, or call you a
> > >>narrow minded old fuddy duddy who thinks his way is the only way...oh
> > >>wait,
> > >>I just did. Ha Ha
> > >>
> > >>Cheri
> > >
> > > I didn't say I hate your kitchen, all I said is that's it's too
> > > cluttered for me, I wouldn't want to be dusting and wiping down all
> > > those jars/bottles... how do you extrapolate hate from cluttered?
> > > Actually your kitchen is fine, but I would find out of sight places
> > > for all that stuff... there are very nice recessed cabinets that can
> > > be inserted between the wall studs so that they are flush with the
> > > wall... they can be mirrored, have clear glass so you can see what's
> > > inside, or insert your favorite art work. Just examples:
> >
> > It's not *my* kitchen, and you did say some nasty stuff to cshenk who posted
> > her pics.
>
> I can just see the house proud man strut through his kitchen, slapping
> any intruders with his manbag.

I doubt that he would even let you into his kitchen unless you were de-contaminated. Ahahahahaha

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > >
> >>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>> >
> >>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> >>> >
> >>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now
> so >>> > made a tinypic for ya.
> > > >
> >>> Looks really good!
> > > >
> >>> Cheri
> > >
> >> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
> > >
> >>
> http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...ks%20Kitchen?s
> or >> t=3
> > >
> >> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but
> I >> think it's fun to show where I cook.
> > >
> >> Carol
> >
> > Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I
> > think your kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking
> > and enjoying it. It reminds me a lot of mine.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
> with all those small bottles everywhere...

Thise are called spices. You may want to try some out like normal
cooks do.

> there's plenty of space on
> those empty walls for for storage cabinets, can even add more counter
> space with cabinets below.

LOL! The only empty wall space is above the added floor cabinet. Much
of that is in use with 6 wall mounted spice racks.

> That ancient fercocktah piece of furniture
> looks out of place and takes up a lot of space that would be a lot
> more useable.

LOL! Wich one? The flip down side table doubling as a low credenza
(piled with special additives my elder dog needs such as GSM for her
joints, Lignan for her Cushings-like symptoms and so on). If the
pictures didnt show it, that is a narrow 28inch slot leading to what
was the garage. I'm not cabineting off the family room entrance.

The low unit with the bread machine and crockpot? Probably not in view
is the onion and potato keeper that is between it and the china cabinet
(full wood door).

The China Cabinet? Genuine antique. Made in England and rounded the
tip of South America to land in San Fransisco and used in the gold rush
in bar. Has burn marks from the fires after their big earthquake.
Was a matched piece and we have the pictures of the other one that
didnt survive the fires. It's against the sliding patio door.

What you may not have realized is there is a pantry to the side of the
fridge. I use that for most dry goods. The spots above need a small
step ladder to reach but have those bigger pans we all use for special
things like a whole Turkey, or my covered Duck roaster.

The rest is open to the living room. Att he edge you may be able to
see the built in bar (kinda messy with stuff on top right now.

> One can only imagine what useless dreck is stuffed into
> all those cabinets... I think you need to have a yard sale, or rent a
> large dumpster. How/why do people live that way... I'm positive if
> someone built you a new kitchen three times as large it would be just
> as crammed full of useless dreck in a week. I'd be ascared to see
> pictures of shenk's terlit.


LOL, you are such a delightful asshole Sheldon!

Carol



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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:21:31 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > news > > >> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> > >>> ...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just
> > now so >>> > made a tinypic for ya.
> > > > >
> > >>> Looks really good!
> > > > >
> > >>> Cheri
> > > >
> > >> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
> > > >
> > >>
> > http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...enks%20Kitchen
> > ?sor >> t=3
> > > >
> > >> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I
> > but I >> think it's fun to show where I cook.
> > > >
> > >> Carol
> > >
> > > Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I
> > > think your kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking
> > > and enjoying it. It reminds me a lot of mine.
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
> > with all those small bottles everywhere... there's plenty of space
> > on those empty walls for for storage cabinets, can even add more
> > counter space with cabinets below. That ancient fercocktah piece
> > of furniture looks out of place and takes up a lot of space that
> > would be a lot more useable. One can only imagine what useless
> > dreck is stuffed into all those cabinets... I think you need to
> > have a yard sale, or rent a large dumpster. How/why do people live
> > that way... I'm positive if someone built you a new kitchen three
> > times as large it would be just as crammed full of useless dreck in
> > a week. I'd be ascared to see pictures of shenk's terlit.
>
> For Gawd's sake give it a rest. All you do is criticize everyone who
> posts pictures of their kitchen and what they cook. We all know that
> you are frickin' perfect and have standards that no one else can ever
> attain. If you really want to criticize, I could post a picture of
> mine. That would probably cause you to have a "stroke". Hmmmm!, maybe
> that would be the ticket. =====

Grin, go for it! Remember, the rest of us normal folks will just like
to see it and if you have a problem spot and looking for ideas, will
suggest what *seems* might work for you.

One problem here was getting at my spices. You can see my solutions
and if you have wall space, those nice looking sort of antique black
wall spice units were not expensive, were well made, and come in packs
of 2. They come with long screws and he plastic countersinking bits, or
short ones just right for drywall (no deeper than the drywall and
strong enough for standard glass spice bottles). The long screws and
counter-sinks are for brick/stone mounting.

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Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:46:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:56:43 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> >>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> >>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > > >
> > > > > > Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know
> > > > > > why. I think your
> > > > > > kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking and
> > > > > > enjoying it. It
> > > > > > reminds me a lot of mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheri
> > > > >
> >>>> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered,
> what's
> > > >
> > > > Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be so
> > > > closed minded and just enjoy your choices without stressing
> > > > over others choices.
> > > >
> > > > Cheri
> > >
> >> I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.
> >
> > Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see
> > that some people hated your kitchen, thought it looked old
> > fashioned etc? I love your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't
> > write a long winded reply about how ugly it is or how I would hate
> > to have to live in it, or call you a narrow minded old fuddy duddy
> > who thinks his way is the only way...oh wait, I just did. Ha Ha
> >
> > Cheri
>
> I didn't say I hate your kitchen, all I said is that's it's too
> cluttered for me, I wouldn't want to be dusting and wiping down all
> those jars/bottles... how do you extrapolate hate from cluttered?
> Actually your kitchen is fine, but I would find out of sight places
> for all that stuff... there are very nice recessed cabinets that can
> be inserted between the wall studs so that they are flush with the
> wall... they can be mirrored, have clear glass so you can see what's
> inside, or insert your favorite art work. Just examples:
> https://www.amazon.com/Stack-On-IWC-...ll-Cabinet/dp/
> B002TOKR6W/ref=pd_sbs_229_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HHJFV Q8M6K72YG
> RZHXV4
> https://www.amazon.com/WC-454-Recess...-available/dp/
> B003ZQSEFY/ref=pd_day0_201_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B003ZQSEF Y&pd_rd_r
> =S5WF8BC7QSJ5S46A95SA&pd_rd_w=gZK7m&pd_rd_wg=YaBGW &psc=1&refRID=S5WF8B
> C7QSJ5S46A95SA

Um Sheldon, I cant get more than 3 inches with recessed stuff here or
it's 'outcessed stuff' in the wall of the other room. The back side of
the wall with the fridge is the kid's bedroom. The wall with the sink
is load bearing exterior wall supporting the roof and the once carport
became enclosed garage (lower roof) and now family room.



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Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:46:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:56:43 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> >>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri"
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know
> > > > > > > why. I think your
> > > > > > > kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking
> > > > > > > and enjoying it. It
> > > > > > > reminds me a lot of mine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheri
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered,
> > > > > > what's
> > > > >
> > > > > Different strokes is what makes the world go round, don't be
> > > > > so closed minded and just enjoy your choices without
> > > > > stressing over others choices.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheri
> > > >
> > > > I'm not stressing, I don't have to live that way.
> > >
> > > Exactly, you can live how you choose, as can others. Did you see
> > > that some people hated your kitchen, thought it looked old
> > > fashioned etc? I love your kitchen, but if I hated it, I wouldn't
> > > write a long winded reply about how ugly it is or how I would
> > > hate to have to live in it, or call you a narrow minded old fuddy
> > > duddy who thinks his way is the only way...oh wait, I just did.
> > > Ha Ha
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > I didn't say I hate your kitchen, all I said is that's it's too
> > cluttered for me, I wouldn't want to be dusting and wiping down all
> > those jars/bottles... how do you extrapolate hate from cluttered?
> > Actually your kitchen is fine, but I would find out of sight places
> > for all that stuff... there are very nice recessed cabinets that can
> > be inserted between the wall studs so that they are flush with the
> > wall... they can be mirrored, have clear glass so you can see what's
> > inside, or insert your favorite art work. Just examples:
>
> It's not my kitchen, and you did say some nasty stuff to cshenk who
> posted her pics.
>
> Cheri

Oh don't let him worry you. Mine *is* cluttered with real life. It's
obviously arranged for real cooking and has challanges in storage. I
LOVED the wall potrack that was posted and I'd do that here but the
only possible spot would be to remove my cookbook bookshelf set and use
that wall (leads to the family room). Humm, it's an idea but a lot of
my pots/pans are not hangable and the lids are not but there are some
possible ideas there...

Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
shelves in there.

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dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:00:40 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:22:31 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> > > >
> > > > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now
> > > > so made a tinypic for ya.
> > > >
> > > > Recipe used as follows (makes 2lbs, I did a freeform loaf and
> > > > about 10 smaller buns)
> > > >
> > > > 1 1/3 c Buttermilk (made from powder and water)
> > > > 1/3 c water
> > > > 1-2 TB butter (cut up)
> > > > 1/2 c hard strong cheese, slivered *
> > > > 1/3 c firm brie, cut up
> > > > 4 c flour (mix of all purpose and bread machine, probably 1/4c
> > > > spelt in there)
> > > > 2 TB sugar
> > > > 1 ts salt
> > > > 2 ts bread machine yeast
> > > >
> > > > **optional- 3 TB parsley, 2 ts black pepper blend, 1/2 TB poppy
> > > > seed
> > > >
> > > > Set machine to dough mode and load. I used the first 2 optional
> > > > items right away then waited until after first knead to add the
> > > > poppy seeds so they'd be in the outer crust. Remove from
> > > > machine in 1.5 hours (when it beeps it's done with dough mode)
> > > > then shape. I used about 1/2 the dough for a long loaf and
> > > > then made quite a few smaller buns. Set on a large flat bread
> > > > pan (I use pam so it doesn't stick) and place in the oven with
> > > > the light on. Let rise about 1 hour then remove, heat oven to
> > > > 400F and bake 17 minutes and check. If a tap is hollow, it's
> > > > ready. I actually do it by color for this recipe but if
> > > > unsure, the hollow tap works.
> > > >
> > > > * For the cheese, sorry this one was long unwrapped and not sure
> > > > other than it was firm, pale tan inside, and probably was
> > > > similar to a smoked gouda yet firmer. Pretty sure at some
> > > > stage it had a wax rind that's been peeled off.
> > > > --
> > >
> > > I'll take the piece in the second row, 3rd from the left. Thank
> > > you.
> >
> > Snicker, I grabbed the front middle one. It had toes!
> >
> > --
>
> From your choice, I can tell you're an extroverted, forerunner type.
> My choice means that I keep things low-key and am pretty
> conservative. Our choices in bread says a lot!

Grin, I am indeed an extrovert. Tagged and bagged!

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jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 12/4/2016 12:22 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> >
> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now so
> > made a tinypic for ya.
> >
>
> Looks quite nice!
>
> Jill

Thanks Jill!

Since I make bread twice a week, I don't post them all. It would be
silly! Glad I got the new camera though! The old one works nicely for
a child to click around and went off to one a week or so ago (after
explaining the color issues to the parent).

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...

> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
> shelves in there.

I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and having
that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL

Cheri

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > >
> >>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>> >
> >>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
> >>> >
> >>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now
> so >>> > made a tinypic for ya.
> > > >
> >>> Looks really good!
> > > >
> >>> Cheri
> > >
> >> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
> > >
> >>
> http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...ks%20Kitchen?s
> or >> t=3
> > >
> >> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but
> I >> think it's fun to show where I cook.
> > >
> >> Carol
> >
> > Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I
> > think your kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking
> > and enjoying it. It reminds me a lot of mine.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
> with all those small bottles everywhere...

Thise are called spices. You may want to try some out like normal
cooks do.

> there's plenty of space on
> those empty walls for for storage cabinets, can even add more counter
> space with cabinets below.

LOL! The only empty wall space is above the added floor cabinet. Much
of that is in use with 6 wall mounted spice racks.

> That ancient fercocktah piece of furniture
> looks out of place and takes up a lot of space that would be a lot
> more useable.

LOL! Wich one? The flip down side table doubling as a low credenza
(piled with special additives my elder dog needs such as GSM for her
joints, Lignan for her Cushings-like symptoms and so on). If the
pictures didnt show it, that is a narrow 28inch slot leading to what
was the garage. I'm not cabineting off the family room entrance.

The low unit with the bread machine and crockpot? Probably not in view
is the onion and potato keeper that is between it and the china cabinet
(full wood door).

The China Cabinet? Genuine antique. Made in England and rounded the
tip of South America to land in San Fransisco and used in the gold rush
in bar. Has burn marks from the fires after their big earthquake.
Was a matched piece and we have the pictures of the other one that
didnt survive the fires. It's against the sliding patio door.

What you may not have realized is there is a pantry to the side of the
fridge. I use that for most dry goods. The spots above need a small
step ladder to reach but have those bigger pans we all use for special
things like a whole Turkey, or my covered Duck roaster.

The rest is open to the living room. Att he edge you may be able to
see the built in bar (kinda messy with stuff on top right now.

> One can only imagine what useless dreck is stuffed into
> all those cabinets... I think you need to have a yard sale, or rent a
> large dumpster. How/why do people live that way... I'm positive if
> someone built you a new kitchen three times as large it would be just
> as crammed full of useless dreck in a week. I'd be ascared to see
> pictures of shenk's terlit.


LOL, you are such a delightful asshole Sheldon!

Carol

=================

You don't have to justify anything! It was very brave of you to post
pictures and most wouldn't even be bothered because of the flack



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"Cheri" wrote in message news

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...

> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
> shelves in there.

I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and having
that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL

Cheri
====================

I already did that. Like yours it was just a waste of the space so I got
rid of it and put an under counter freezer in its place) Much more
useful)


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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:17:00 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:

<buncha stuff snipped>

I find myself agreeing somewhat with Sheldon, although I'm more
sympathetic as to one's priorities in life. If you re-did your
kitchen, you might not have the money for charity and all of
those other things that are important to you.

I'd probably fill the space between the fridge and the sliding
door with some sort of base and wall cabinets, even if I had to
get them used at the Habitat for Humanity Re-store. I already
think my countertops are too cluttered. My motto:
"If you don't use it every day, put it away." I've just
about achieved that, except for the food processor.

How tall are you? I can see wanting stuff low if putting
things up might mean a trip up and down a stepladder for
every little thing, especially if infirmity precludes
that sort of climbing, even on an occasional basis.

Cindy Hamilton

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
>> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
>> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
>> shelves in there.
>
> I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and
> having
> that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL
>
> Cheri
> ====================
>
> I already did that. Like yours it was just a waste of the space so I got
> rid of it and put an under counter freezer in its place) Much more
> useful)

I can imagine that it would be.

Cheri

On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 23:08:05 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
>> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
>> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
>> shelves in there.
>
>I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and having
>that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL
>
>Cheri

There are many far better ways to gain kitchen storage space.

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 23:08:05 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
> >> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
> >> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
> >> shelves in there.
> >
> >I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and having
> >that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL
> >
> >Cheri
>
> There are many far better ways to gain kitchen storage space.

Who needs extra storage space when you have a manbag?

On 12/4/2016 6:42 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>>> * For the cheese, sorry this one was long unwrapped and not sure
>>>> other than it was firm, pale tan inside, and probably was similar
>>>> to a smoked gouda yet firmer. Pretty sure at some stage it had a
>>>> wax rind that's been peeled off.
>>>> --
>>>
>>> I'll take the piece in the second row, 3rd from the left. Thank you.
>>
>> Snicker, I grabbed the front middle one. It had toes!
>>
>> --
>
> From your choice, I can tell you're an extroverted, forerunner type. My choice means that I keep things low-key
> and am pretty conservative. Our choices in bread says a lot!
>
Wither the foccacia bunch...

"Cheri" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
>> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
>> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
>> shelves in there.
>
> I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and
> having
> that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL
>
> Cheri
> ====================
>
> I already did that. Like yours it was just a waste of the space so I got
> rid of it and put an under counter freezer in its place) Much more
> useful)

I can imagine that it would be.

Cheri

=====================

Tempted? What would you put in that space? )



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
>>> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
>>> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
>>> shelves in there.
>>
>> I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and
>> having
>> that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>> ====================
>>
>> I already did that. Like yours it was just a waste of the space so I got
>> rid of it and put an under counter freezer in its place) Much more
>> useful)
>
> I can imagine that it would be.
>
> Cheri
>
> =====================
>
> Tempted?

I haven't really decided, but I'm sure whatever it would be, would be more
useful than the dishwasher that just sits there.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Best hidden secret of my kitchen? There's a 5 inch wide cubby with
>>> door at the side of the dishwasher (other side is the thin passage to
>>> the Family room). *Perfect* for cans of dog and cat food. Has 2
>>> shelves in there.
>>
>> I so seldomly use my dishwasher that I'm thinking of removing it and
>> having
>> that extra space for use, that will really freak Sheldon out. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>> ====================
>>
>> I already did that. Like yours it was just a waste of the space so I got
>> rid of it and put an under counter freezer in its place) Much more
>> useful)
>
> I can imagine that it would be.
>
> Cheri
>
> =====================
>
> Tempted?

I haven't really decided, but I'm sure whatever it would be, would be more
useful than the dishwasher that just sits there.

Cheri

====================

You will think of something




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On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 09:54:35 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"cshenk" wrote in message
...
>
>Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> >>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://tinypic.com/r/wbt9wo/9
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Finally got a decent camera. Photobucket seems wonky just now
>> so >>> > made a tinypic for ya.
>> > > >
>> >>> Looks really good!
>> > > >
>> >>> Cheri
>> > >
>> >> It is! Did the kichen pics show ok?
>> > >
>> >>
>> http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/cs...ks%20Kitchen?s
>> or >> t=3
>> > >
>> >> I'm hoping that link works better. It's not perfect, nor am I but
>> I >> think it's fun to show where I cook.
>> > >
>> >> Carol
>> >
>> > Yes, this time it did, before just the bread. Don't know why. I
>> > think your kitchen looks very cozy and that it's used for cooking
>> > and enjoying it. It reminds me a lot of mine.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>>
>> You may think it's cozy but I think it's way too cluttered, what's
>> with all those small bottles everywhere...
>
>Thise are called spices. You may want to try some out like normal
>cooks do.

I probably have more spices than any two RFCers

>> there's plenty of space on
>> those empty walls for for storage cabinets, can even add more counter
>> space with cabinets below.
>
>LOL! The only empty wall space is above the added floor cabinet. Much
>of that is in use with 6 wall mounted spice racks.

Open spice racks are a big no-no, light destroys spices... spices
should be stored inside a closed space... a spice *cabinet*.
I keep my spices inside three adjoining kitchen cabinets, containing
small bottles that I refill as needed from the stash in my freezer.
Several spices that I don't use very often are in small bottles in my
freezer all the time, otherwise they'd deteriorate before I used them.
And just because you display all those spice bottles in no way means
you use them... they are simply a huge shitload of schmutz
collectors... you'd do better to use those racks to display Beany
Babies or other chachkas. None of my spices are displayed, not even
my salt and pepper. In my experience over many years those who
display all their kitchen stuff don't/can't cook, it's all a facade. I
was at someone's house recently, they had a ton of pots n' pans
hanging from the ceiling, walls, everywhere... I checked a bunch,
every one was coated with at least ten years worth of schmutz. I've
been offered a drink at people's homes who keep all their glassware
displayed on a counter, I looked at those dusty glasses (some with
obvious mouth marks on the rim) and refused, I certainly wouldn't eat
there. Ever I saw a kitchen with all those spice bottles displayed
out in the open like Carol's no way would I accept an invite for a
meal... all that dreck all over her kitchen whets my appetite like an
unflushed toilet. I don't care that a kitchen is small or old
fashioned so long as it's scrupulously clean, disorganized and
overflowing with dreck is no indication of cleanliness. I just want
to see the basic kitchen *layout*, not all the displayed appliances
either, displayed appliances over all the counter space tells me
they're not used other than to cover up schmutz, they're all show and
no go.

>> That ancient fercocktah piece of furniture
>> looks out of place and takes up a lot of space that would be a lot
>> more useable.
>
>LOL! Wich one? The flip down side table doubling as a low credenza
>(piled with special additives my elder dog needs such as GSM for her
>joints, Lignan for her Cushings-like symptoms and so on).

That is one ugli piece of furniture that matches nothing in your
kitchen and is a total waste of useful kitchen space. I'm positive
it's not filled with canine meds, your Vet doesn't need that much
space for animal meds.
I used to have an entire dining room set from the 1920s that sat 12
people, with the hutch, sideboard, credenza and all the chairs, huge
pieces, very ornate... was too much work dusting and polishing and I
don't think I ever had more than eight for dinner at that table... I
got rid of it, I sold it with the house.
http://tinypic.com/r/2d1w7eu/9
http://i64.tinypic.com/29eghw8.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/10h5d3d.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/io3y8i.jpg

>The China Cabinet? Genuine antique.

It's genuine ugli, doesn't belong in a kitchen, takes up too much
space, belongs in The Munsters Museum.

>What you may not have realized is there is a pantry to the side of the
>fridge. I use that for most dry goods. The spots above need a small
>step ladder to reach but have those bigger pans we all use for special
>things like a whole Turkey, or my covered Duck roaster.

I can only imagine what dreck fills your cupboards and pantry taking
up valuable kitchen real estate, crapola that you never use.

>The rest is open to the living room. Att he edge you may be able to
>see the built in bar (kinda messy with stuff on top right now.

I believe it's *always* messy.

>> One can only imagine what useless dreck is stuffed into
>> all those cabinets... I think you need to have a yard sale, or rent a
>> large dumpster. How/why do people live that way... I'm positive if
>> someone built you a new kitchen three times as large it would be just
>> as crammed full of useless dreck in a week. I'd be ascared to see
>> pictures of shenk's terlit.

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...

<House proud man with manbag has been drinking too much again.>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 03:38:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:17:00 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
><buncha stuff snipped>
>
>I find myself agreeing somewhat with Sheldon, although I'm more
>sympathetic as to one's priorities in life. If you re-did your
>kitchen, you might not have the money for charity and all of
>those other things that are important to you.

Thank you, Cindy. I can be sympathetic when one says they can't
afford a remodel, but then it would behoove that they stop talking
about it endlessly. Yet still there is much one can do to greatly
improve what one has without spending much money... it never costs
much to organize, neaten, clean, and to free up space by disposing of
dreck one doesn't use. I know that there are people who just can't
bring themselves to dispose of their errors in judgement, some people
are impulsive and always think they need something, if only they'd
wait an hour to think about it they would come to the conclusion that
purchasing some frivilous doodad is just a big waste of money, but
more importantly will become a burden finding a place to put something
they'll never use.
>
>I'd probably fill the space between the fridge and the sliding
>door with some sort of base and wall cabinets, even if I had to
>get them used at the Habitat for Humanity Re-store. I already
>think my countertops are too cluttered. My motto:
>"If you don't use it every day, put it away." I've just
>about achieved that, except for the food processor.
>
>How tall are you? I can see wanting stuff low if putting
>things up might mean a trip up and down a stepladder for
>every little thing, especially if infirmity precludes
>that sort of climbing, even on an occasional basis.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Small kitchen appliances that are occasionally/rarely used don't need
a permanent home in one's kitchen... they can be stored in some other
room, on the floor of a bedroom clothes closet or under a bed... I
know, Carol has 170 pair of shoes she hasn't worn in thirty years but
she can't part with any even though now are feet are way too fat. I
recently bought a very nice metal cabinet that I mounted on my garage
wall for storing bakeware, I have a lot of Nordicware... it's only a
few steps from my kitchen to my garage... Nordicware is bulky, they
don't nest, no point in it taking kitchen space when pieces aren't
used regularly.
Lack of storage space is why houses with no basement are not houses,
every house on a slab is a garage. Anyone who pays over 100 Gs for a
house on a slab is an imbecile.