"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 12/11/2016 7:23 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:35:03 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>> every day! As for daily showering........
>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>
> Remember? There were celluloid collars for men and lace thingies for
> women. That's so the collars were always clean. And there was rose
> water.
> Janet US
>
Did you ever see the PBS series '1900 House'? They took a family back
to living in Victorian England conditions. They retrofitted an old row
house to try to duplicate the conditions. They could barely get tepid
water to run to the bath. They had to wear all those stiff layers of
clothing. The wife and girls were always complaining about feeling
sweaty, dirty, couldn't wash their hair or use modern shampoo. Times
have certainly changed.

Jill

===============

Thank goodness!!!


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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 08:07:37 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 21:24:53 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
>>
>>>> It's about the same here. I change socks and underwear daily and pants
>>>> get laundered once every week or two. The problem with towels is that
>>>> they can get little funky smelling if they aren't hung to dry properly.
>>>> It's not like they are getting filthy after drying off a clean body. I
>>>> often had two showers a day, one at home and one at the gym and I get
>>>> fresh towels at the gym.
>>>>
>>
>>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>>> every day! As for daily showering........
>>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>>
>>Many dermatologists will tell you most people bathe/shower too often.
>>They dry out the skin.
>
>That's true, past 70, every other day a shower. They also recommend
>not soaking in a bath, very hard on the skin particularly if the water
>is really hot.

"They" also say it is only necessary to wash the groin area and
underarms with soap. (shampoo hair of course) The rest rinses clean.
Different rules apply if you've been swimming, working out, etc.
Janet US

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>> every day! As for daily showering........
>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>
>My mother used to joke (or maybe not) when she was growing up you took
>"a bath a week, whether you need one or not."
>
>Jill

No joke. It's the way things were done in the 40s and early 50s.
Janet US

On 12/12/2016 11:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/12/2016 8:50 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >> On 12/11/2016 4:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Time to get a generator?
>>>>
>>>> From what I've seen...a generator is a great thing to have when
>>>> necessary but the need is so rare, it doesn't warrant the cost.
>>>
>>> Yes, if I lived in snow country etc. I would definitely want one, but I
>>> can't really remember the last time the lights went out for more than a
>>> few minutes. When the big earthquake hits CA it would be nice but I will
>>> gamble on that not happening while I'm here. ;-)
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I remember sitting outside waiting for the "big one" to hit California
>> one day in 1967, as predicted by psychic Jeanne Dixon. Didn't happen of
>> course. As seven year old kids, my friends and I were *very*
>> disppointed. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> ============
>>
>> Did she explain why she got it wrong? ;-)
>>
>>
> LOL I doubt it. I seem to recall seeing the prediction as a "headline"
> on the cover of a tabloid newspaper at the supermarket checkout lane. I
> also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
> Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
> she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
> yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>
> Jill
>
> ==================
>
> Wise Mom)
>
>
Yeah, she was pretty smart. She didn't buy into that tabloid stuff.
But when you're seven years old and see pictures and headlines on that
stuff... I did ask questions.

Jill

On 12/12/2016 11:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 12/12/2016 10:18 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-12-12 9:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2016 5:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Let me guess.... she was a bit of a control freak in other ways as
>>>> well.
>>>> I worked with a couple people that that over the years. It was all
>>>> about them having their way with things so they could be in charge.
>>>>
>>> Not really. She was a sweet little old lady. She did make some
>>> ridiculous statements from time to time. I recall her being irritated
>>> because her *40 year old* daughter still wore her hair long, past her
>>> shoulders! I couldn't help but laugh. (I was about 42 at the time wore
>>> my hair long; still do.) I didn't realize there was a mandatory age
>>> where women suddenly have to cut their hair and start going to the
>>> beauty parlor for a weekly wash & set. It ain't 1950, ya know.
>>
>> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to start
>> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a point
>> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks. My SiL
>> is getting close to 80 and still has shoulder length hair that looks
>> good on her, and a friend of my wife has hair that she wears in a sort
>> of long braid that goes about 1/2 of the way down her back.
>>
> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
> all, a child of the 1960's.
>
> Jill
> ===========
>
> Same here but I just like to keep my hair up. Never needs to be cut
> and I wash it myself. Suits me just fine)
>
I pull my hair in a pony tail so it doesn't get in the way (or hair fall
into food when cooking). Other than that, I don't fuss around with my hair.

Jill

In article >,
says...

> I think it was the combination of things that gave me that impression.
> Each of those things on its own might be easily dismissed. Being 20
> minutes late to meet a friend for coffee is bad planning and rude.

Or unavoidable domestic or traffic delay. It happens.

> Immediately readjusting the table for now apparent reason reflects OCD
> issues. The music was not loud. Those things together IMNSHO indicate
> silly control issues.

I think they indicate a lack of imagination on your part. You don't
know her reason, but that doesn't mean she had none. Many disabilities
are invisible.

Someone with a bad back, leg, or recent belly surgery, may need a bit
more space to get into a chair and sit comfortably by a table edge.

Somebody with hearing problems, or hearing aids, will often find
"background" music causes a lot of interference with conversational
speech. They may hear different frequencies at higher volume (than
normal hearing), and soundwaves coming from two directions get distorted
into a wall of meaningless sound.

Janet UK

On 12/12/2016 11:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/11/2016 7:23 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:35:03 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>>> every day! As for daily showering........
>>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>>
>> Remember? There were celluloid collars for men and lace thingies for
>> women. That's so the collars were always clean. And there was rose
>> water.
>> Janet US
>>
> Did you ever see the PBS series '1900 House'? They took a family back
> to living in Victorian England conditions. They retrofitted an old row
> house to try to duplicate the conditions. They could barely get tepid
> water to run to the bath. They had to wear all those stiff layers of
> clothing. The wife and girls were always complaining about feeling
> sweaty, dirty, couldn't wash their hair or use modern shampoo. Times
> have certainly changed.
>
> Jill
>
> ===============
>
> Thank goodness!!!
>
>
Yes, thank goodness! I don't know why anyone would want to revert back
to those times. It was a fun experiment to watch, seeing if modern day
people could cope. They couldn't get the old (authentic, they had to
hunt that stove/boiler down) working properly to boil water for tea much
less run water to heat a bath.

I don't know if you can see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNCMRWTLLu8

One of the girls said, she felt, "Dirty, smelly, greasy, skanky. I want
to go home!"

Jill

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 11:03:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

> You should try living in the tropics. You probably won't get away with not taking a shower. When it gets real hot I'll take a shower twice a day. No, I'm not OCD.

I don't know exactly where you live, but the average July high in
Kaneohe, HI, is the same as the average July high in Detroit:
about 82 F.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:24:35 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 12/12/2016 7:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 4:27:36 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 12/11/2016 12:07 PM, Gary wrote:
> >>> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Time to get a generator?
> >>>
> >>> From what I've seen...a generator is a great thing to have when
> >>> necessary but the need is so rare, it doesn't warrant the cost.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Same here. In 50+ years of home ownership I recall only one two day
> >> period after hurricane Gloria. Other outages were a few hours in
> >> tolerable weather.
> >
> > Husband has a CPAP. It has a UPS for the first 15 seconds until
> > the generator kicks on.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> CPAP's aren't quite the same as say, needing an oxygen tank.
>
> Jill

No, they're not. He can't sleep at all without it (he wakes
himself up when he snores), so we consider it a necessity.

Happily, we can choose to install any sort of
infrastructure that we wish. Because we DIY, it was under
$5000 for the generator, not the $10,000 - $15,000 that
Sheldon quoted. It'll also run the air-conditioning.

Cindy Hamilton

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 12/12/2016 11:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/11/2016 7:23 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:35:03 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>>> every day! As for daily showering........
>>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>>
>> Remember? There were celluloid collars for men and lace thingies for
>> women. That's so the collars were always clean. And there was rose
>> water.
>> Janet US
>>
> Did you ever see the PBS series '1900 House'? They took a family back
> to living in Victorian England conditions. They retrofitted an old row
> house to try to duplicate the conditions. They could barely get tepid
> water to run to the bath. They had to wear all those stiff layers of
> clothing. The wife and girls were always complaining about feeling
> sweaty, dirty, couldn't wash their hair or use modern shampoo. Times
> have certainly changed.
>
> Jill
>
> ===============
>
> Thank goodness!!!
>
>
Yes, thank goodness! I don't know why anyone would want to revert back
to those times. It was a fun experiment to watch, seeing if modern day
people could cope. They couldn't get the old (authentic, they had to
hunt that stove/boiler down) working properly to boil water for tea much
less run water to heat a bath.

I don't know if you can see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNCMRWTLLu8

One of the girls said, she felt, "Dirty, smelly, greasy, skanky. I want
to go home!"

Jill

================

Oh I couldn't access the link ... "This video contains content from Shed
Media, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." But I do
agree with your point!

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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:

> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
> all, a child of the 1960's.

I'm the same way, which is why I wear my hair short. It's styled
something like this, but mine is all gray:

<http://tvdatabase.wikia.com/wiki/Eaddy_Mays>

I think a lot of women cut their hair when they have children.
It's easy to take care of, and they can't pull on it. Not, y'know,
that I'd actually know for sure.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:56:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 12/11/2016 10:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
> >>
> >> Many dermatologists will tell you most people bathe/shower too often.
> >> They dry out the skin.
> >
> > This is true because the water is too hot, it's best to shower with
> > cool water, and use a mild soap. My wife is always bitching because I
> > have far fewer wrinkles and I'm five years older. I tell her not to
> > shower with such hot water, and to cut down on the make up... she
> > doesn't use a lot but I think it's still too much, make up dries the
> > skin, it sucks out the moisture.
> (snippage)
>
> This is why they sell moisturizer. They even sell in-shower body
> lotion. I don't think I've ever known a women who took really hot
> showers.

In the winter, I take the hottest showers I can stand. Sometimes
that's the only time I feel really warm all day.

> As for tub soaking, I only soak in a tub a couple of times a
> year, with bath salts. It has nothing to do with being clean. It's
> relaxing to soak in a tub with a bath pillow and lavendar salts from
> time to time.

I haven't voluntarily taken a bath since junior high. Once I got
the hang of showering, I never looked back.

Cindy Hamilton

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 21:24:53 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
>>
>>>> It's about the same here. I change socks and underwear daily and pants
>>>> get laundered once every week or two. The problem with towels is that
>>>> they can get little funky smelling if they aren't hung to dry properly.
>>>> It's not like they are getting filthy after drying off a clean body. I
>>>> often had two showers a day, one at home and one at the gym and I get
>>>> fresh towels at the gym.
>>>>
>>
>>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>>> every day! As for daily showering........
>>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>>
>>Many dermatologists will tell you most people bathe/shower too often.
>>They dry out the skin.
>
> That's true, past 70, every other day a shower. They also recommend
> not soaking in a bath, very hard on the skin particularly if the water
> is really hot.

Well, I'm past 70 and not doing every other day, doing every day...if I was
living by myself, probably every other day would be fine though.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/11/2016 4:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Time to get a generator?
>>>
>>> From what I've seen...a generator is a great thing to have when
>>> necessary but the need is so rare, it doesn't warrant the cost.
>>
>> Yes, if I lived in snow country etc. I would definitely want one, but I
>> can't really remember the last time the lights went out for more than a
>> few minutes. When the big earthquake hits CA it would be nice but I will
>> gamble on that not happening while I'm here. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I remember sitting outside waiting for the "big one" to hit California one
> day in 1967, as predicted by psychic Jeanne Dixon. Didn't happen of
> course. As seven year old kids, my friends and I were *very* disppointed.
> LOL
>
> Jill
>
> ============
>
> Did she explain why she got it wrong? ;-)

Yes, right after the YK2 people explained. ;-) I just finished reading a
book called The Big One about multiple fault lines going at the same time
in CA, wouldn't want to be here for that one. Of course it wasn't completely
factual, but it did have a lot of real information about other quakes. I
would sooner live in quake country than in hurricane and tornado areas
though.

Cheri

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:29:35 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2016-12-12 10:19 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> LOL I doubt it. I seem to recall seeing the prediction as a "headline"
>>> on the cover of a tabloid newspaper at the supermarket checkout lane. I
>>> also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
>>> Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
>>> she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
>>> yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>>>
>>
>>Grocery stores are sometimes nice places to girl watch, but it is always
>>a major disappointment to see a really nice looking lady ahead of you at
>>the checkout line when she reaches over and grabs one of those idiotic
>>tabloid magazines. It sends a very clear message that they have no brains.
>
> What a ridiculous comment... all kinds of people browse those rumor
> rags while they wait to check out... I would think at least she can
> read.

When I worked at a drugstore, those tabloids came out on Wednesdays. I can't
tell you how many people came there when we opened to get the latest. It was
a small town, Rio Vista, so maybe that was the draw, nothing much going on
in this world, so they wanted to read about the aliens, or maybe they wanted
the informative *articles* like the Playboy buyers do? ;-)

Cheri

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:29:35 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2016-12-12 10:19 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> LOL I doubt it. I seem to recall seeing the prediction as a "headline"
>>> on the cover of a tabloid newspaper at the supermarket checkout lane. I
>>> also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
>>> Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
>>> she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
>>> yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>>>
>>
>>Grocery stores are sometimes nice places to girl watch, but it is always
>>a major disappointment to see a really nice looking lady ahead of you at
>>the checkout line when she reaches over and grabs one of those idiotic
>>tabloid magazines. It sends a very clear message that they have no brains.
>
> I thought that was where a lot of people got their political news.
> Janet US

Especially the politicians.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news

> I lke the way you end with those 3 words, as an afterthought. You
> certainly
> know a lot about her for someone who isn't interested, she grabbed your
> email out of the air? LOL
>
> Cheri
>
> =======
>
> Damn I just asked that very question)

Great minds.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> Maybe she just wanted to be more comfortable? I don't know about her
> adjusting the table but I can't stand places that have music blaring.
>
> Jill

Oh yeah, one of my pet peeves is blaring music in stores, and also on
soundtracks during tv programs, movies etc. I do have exceptional hearing
and it is almost unbearable at times.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not one
> who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in curlers
> like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in those
> things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it, comb it
> out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after all, a
> child of the 1960's.
>
> Jill

Yes, I remember in high school, had to roll my hair and sleep on those brush
curlers every night, just awful...then they came out with practical curling
irons which was so nice. I keep my hair very short now, just wash, comb and
let dry. I stopped coloring it 4 or 5 years ago, so it's gray now, no
fussing with it.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news

> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
> all, a child of the 1960's.
>
> Jill
> ===========
>
> Same here but I just like to keep my hair up. Never needs to be cut and
> I wash it myself. Suits me just fine)

I love the up styles on people our age, it always looks classy to me.

Cheri

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
>> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
>> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
>> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
>> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
>> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
>> all, a child of the 1960's.
>
> I'm the same way, which is why I wear my hair short. It's styled
> something like this, but mine is all gray:
>
> <http://tvdatabase.wikia.com/wiki/Eaddy_Mays>
>
> I think a lot of women cut their hair when they have children.
> It's easy to take care of, and they can't pull on it. Not, y'know,
> that I'd actually know for sure.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

That's very much like mine, except mine is a bit shorter on top and the
sides.

Cheri
>

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote:
>>"Brooklyn1" wrote:
>>>Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It's about the same here. I change socks and underwear daily and
>>>>>> pants
>>>>>> get laundered once every week or two. The problem with towels is that
>>>>>> they can get little funky smelling if they aren't hung to dry
>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>> It's not like they are getting filthy after drying off a clean body.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> often had two showers a day, one at home and one at the gym and I get
>>>>>> fresh towels at the gym.
>>>>
>>>>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>>>>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>>>>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>>>>> every day! As for daily showering........
>>>>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>>>>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>>>>
>>>>Many dermatologists will tell you most people bathe/shower too often.
>>>>They dry out the skin.
>>>
>>> This is true because the water is too hot, it's best to shower with
>>> cool water, and use a mild soap. My wife is always bitching because I
>>> have far fewer wrinkles and I'm five years older. I tell her not to
>>> shower with such hot water, and to cut down on the make up... she
>>> doesn't use a lot but I think it's still too much, make up dries the
>>> skin, it sucks out the moisture. People I meet don't think I'm 73,
>>> they guess my age at mid 50s, I have very few wrinkles and I have a
>>> full head of very thick hair. My wife gets ****ed because people
>>> think I'm younger than her. My hair is all a steel grey but the women
>>> who cutys my hair tells me if I'd let her dye it I can easily pass for
>>> 40. Of course I think she's full of shit but the other women at the
>>> salon say the same thing, none believe I'm 73, they've made me show my
>>> license. th eold biddys there don't think I'm a day over fifty. In
>>> fact there's a new Boar's Head women at the market in town. She's a
>>> very good looking 43 and she's very interested in me, she gave me her
>>> email address, her home address, and her phone number. She was
>>> divorced six months ago, one big negative is she has five kids,
>>> youngest is 10. I keep telling her I have a daughter older than her
>>> but she's not disuaded, she likes me a lot. She just emailed me that
>>> she will be at the market tomorrow. I gotta say that she is very hot
>>> looking, but I'm no fool, I don't know her, she can be trouble. I
>>> can't imagine a 73 year old man being with a 43 year old woman...
>>> she's probably interested in my wallet, she already mentioned how she
>>> can't afford Christmas gifts. To be honest I'm finding this amusing.
>>> I have no intentions of getting involved with a women whose younger
>>> than my daughter, besides I'm happily married.
>>
>>I lke the way you end with those 3 words, as an afterthought. You
>>certainly
>>know a lot about her for someone who isn't interested, she grabbed your
>>email out of the air? LOL
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Where did I say I wasn't interested... I won't get involved
> romantically because that negates the friendship but I've always
> prefered female friends. I've always found the typical male thinks a
> profound relationship revolves around watching sports on TV and
> defining themselves and everyone else by their job. To me a
> Relationship must be based on the three Rs; Respect, Reciprocity, and
> be Real.

There is no *typical* male or female, and my experience has not been that at
all. You remind me of those people that have those internet things going on,
spending a lot of time flirting, emailing, sending pics, sharing personal
information etc., but don't consider it to be disrespectful to their
spouses. Sorry, you should save all that energy improving your relationship
at home. Also, you said "she is interested in me, but I don't want to get
involved." That is not a friendship, it's a flirtation and you know it. Save
us from old men/women with visions of grandeur. LOL

Cheri

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:37:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
>>> Our grandparents' generation would be amazed about our obsession with
>>> cleanliness, which to them would be over the top. I'll bet they made a
>>> shirt last several days and certainly didn't put on clean underwear
>>> every day! As for daily showering........
>>> Old people in the village where I was raised wouldn't dare wash their
>>> hair in the middle of winter for fear of getting a "death of a cold".
>>
>>My mother used to joke (or maybe not) when she was growing up you took
>>"a bath a week, whether you need one or not."
>>
>>Jill
>
> No joke. It's the way things were done in the 40s and early 50s.
> Janet US

In the early 50's we saved the water for the next bather many times, best to
be first.

Cheri

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
news:32020387-db7e-4e33-8167-


> I haven't voluntarily taken a bath since junior high. Once I got
> the hang of showering, I never looked back.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I've been that way for the past couple of years, but I used to love a nice
bath. Today my knee mostly prevents tub bathing and I have come to like
showers much more.

Cheri

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:19:15 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:


>I also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
>Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
>she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
>yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>
>Jill


Not as completely nonsensical as one might think. The casket was
stored in a crypt until her mausoleum could be built.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/04/0...land-view.html

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:09:38 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/12/2016 11:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >>
>> On 12/12/2016 10:18 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-12-12 9:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/11/2016 5:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Let me guess.... she was a bit of a control freak in other ways as
>>>>> well.
>>>>> I worked with a couple people that that over the years. It was all
>>>>> about them having their way with things so they could be in charge.
>>>>>
>>>> Not really. She was a sweet little old lady. She did make some
>>>> ridiculous statements from time to time. I recall her being irritated
>>>> because her *40 year old* daughter still wore her hair long, past her
>>>> shoulders! I couldn't help but laugh. (I was about 42 at the time wore
>>>> my hair long; still do.) I didn't realize there was a mandatory age
>>>> where women suddenly have to cut their hair and start going to the
>>>> beauty parlor for a weekly wash & set. It ain't 1950, ya know.
>>>
>>> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to start
>>> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a point
>>> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks. My SiL
>>> is getting close to 80 and still has shoulder length hair that looks
>>> good on her, and a friend of my wife has hair that she wears in a sort
>>> of long braid that goes about 1/2 of the way down her back.
>>>
>> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
>> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
>> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
>> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
>> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
>> all, a child of the 1960's.
>>
>> Jill
>> ===========
>>
>> Same here but I just like to keep my hair up. Never needs to be cut
>> and I wash it myself. Suits me just fine)
>>
>I pull my hair in a pony tail so it doesn't get in the way (or hair fall
>into food when cooking). Other than that, I don't fuss around with my hair.
>
>Jill

Pony tails are very 1950s !!!

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:27:55 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
>> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
>> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
>> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
>> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
>> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
>> all, a child of the 1960's.
>
>I'm the same way, which is why I wear my hair short. It's styled
>something like this, but mine is all gray:
>
><http://tvdatabase.wikia.com/wiki/Eaddy_Mays>
>
>I think a lot of women cut their hair when they have children.
>It's easy to take care of, and they can't pull on it. Not, y'know,
>that I'd actually know for sure.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

They hairdresser once cut mine short, I wasn't paying attention. I
soon found how nice it was in wash and wear style and have kept it
ever since

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:46:22 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:29:35 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2016-12-12 10:19 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> LOL I doubt it. I seem to recall seeing the prediction as a "headline"
>>>> on the cover of a tabloid newspaper at the supermarket checkout lane. I
>>>> also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
>>>> Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
>>>> she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
>>>> yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Grocery stores are sometimes nice places to girl watch, but it is always
>>>a major disappointment to see a really nice looking lady ahead of you at
>>>the checkout line when she reaches over and grabs one of those idiotic
>>>tabloid magazines. It sends a very clear message that they have no brains.
>>
>> I thought that was where a lot of people got their political news.
>> Janet US
>
>Especially the politicians.
>
>Cheri

I thought it was all on twitter

"Cheri" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news

> I lke the way you end with those 3 words, as an afterthought. You
> certainly
> know a lot about her for someone who isn't interested, she grabbed your
> email out of the air? LOL
>
> Cheri
>
> =======
>
> Damn I just asked that very question)

Great minds.

Cheri
===============

Undoubtedly <g>

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"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:56:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 12/11/2016 10:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/11/2016 6:35 PM, graham wrote:
> >>
> >> Many dermatologists will tell you most people bathe/shower too often.
> >> They dry out the skin.
> >
> > This is true because the water is too hot, it's best to shower with
> > cool water, and use a mild soap. My wife is always bitching because I
> > have far fewer wrinkles and I'm five years older. I tell her not to
> > shower with such hot water, and to cut down on the make up... she
> > doesn't use a lot but I think it's still too much, make up dries the
> > skin, it sucks out the moisture.
> (snippage)
>
> This is why they sell moisturizer. They even sell in-shower body
> lotion. I don't think I've ever known a women who took really hot
> showers.

In the winter, I take the hottest showers I can stand. Sometimes
that's the only time I feel really warm all day.

> As for tub soaking, I only soak in a tub a couple of times a
> year, with bath salts. It has nothing to do with being clean. It's
> relaxing to soak in a tub with a bath pillow and lavendar salts from
> time to time.

I haven't voluntarily taken a bath since junior high. Once I got
the hang of showering, I never looked back.

Cindy Hamilton

-----------

I had our baths taken out years ago and had showers installed instead.

The idea of soaking in ones dirty water holds no appeal at all <g>


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"Cheri" wrote in message news

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
news:32020387-db7e-4e33-8167-


> I haven't voluntarily taken a bath since junior high. Once I got
> the hang of showering, I never looked back.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I've been that way for the past couple of years, but I used to love a nice
bath. Today my knee mostly prevents tub bathing and I have come to like
showers much more.

Cheri
===========

Your knee??? I've had both mine replaced and i don't have too much problem
with them now.

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"Cheri" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/11/2016 4:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Time to get a generator?
>>>
>>> From what I've seen...a generator is a great thing to have when
>>> necessary but the need is so rare, it doesn't warrant the cost.
>>
>> Yes, if I lived in snow country etc. I would definitely want one, but I
>> can't really remember the last time the lights went out for more than a
>> few minutes. When the big earthquake hits CA it would be nice but I will
>> gamble on that not happening while I'm here. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I remember sitting outside waiting for the "big one" to hit California one
> day in 1967, as predicted by psychic Jeanne Dixon. Didn't happen of
> course. As seven year old kids, my friends and I were *very* disppointed.
> LOL
>
> Jill
>
> ============
>
> Did she explain why she got it wrong? ;-)

Yes, right after the YK2 people explained. ;-) I just finished reading a
book called The Big One about multiple fault lines going at the same time
in CA, wouldn't want to be here for that one. Of course it wasn't completely
factual, but it did have a lot of real information about other quakes. I
would sooner live in quake country than in hurricane and tornado areas
though.

===========

I would prefer to live in none of those ... but if one has to choose ... )



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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:05:29 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .

>>>> This is true because the water is too hot, it's best to shower with
>>>> cool water, and use a mild soap. My wife is always bitching because I
>>>> have far fewer wrinkles and I'm five years older. I tell her not to
>>>> shower with such hot water, and to cut down on the make up... she
>>>> doesn't use a lot but I think it's still too much, make up dries the
>>>> skin, it sucks out the moisture. People I meet don't think I'm 73,
>>>> they guess my age at mid 50s, I have very few wrinkles and I have a
>>>> full head of very thick hair. My wife gets ****ed because people
>>>> think I'm younger than her. My hair is all a steel grey but the women
>>>> who cutys my hair tells me if I'd let her dye it I can easily pass for
>>>> 40. Of course I think she's full of shit but the other women at the
>>>> salon say the same thing, none believe I'm 73, they've made me show my
>>>> license. th eold biddys there don't think I'm a day over fifty. In
>>>> fact there's a new Boar's Head women at the market in town. She's a
>>>> very good looking 43 and she's very interested in me, she gave me her
>>>> email address, her home address, and her phone number. She was
>>>> divorced six months ago, one big negative is she has five kids,
>>>> youngest is 10. I keep telling her I have a daughter older than her
>>>> but she's not disuaded, she likes me a lot. She just emailed me that
>>>> she will be at the market tomorrow. I gotta say that she is very hot
>>>> looking, but I'm no fool, I don't know her, she can be trouble. I
>>>> can't imagine a 73 year old man being with a 43 year old woman...
>>>> she's probably interested in my wallet, she already mentioned how she
>>>> can't afford Christmas gifts. To be honest I'm finding this amusing.
>>>> I have no intentions of getting involved with a women whose younger
>>>> than my daughter, besides I'm happily married.
>>>
>>>I lke the way you end with those 3 words, as an afterthought. You
>>>certainly
>>>know a lot about her for someone who isn't interested, she grabbed your
>>>email out of the air? LOL
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> Where did I say I wasn't interested... I won't get involved
>> romantically because that negates the friendship but I've always
>> prefered female friends. I've always found the typical male thinks a
>> profound relationship revolves around watching sports on TV and
>> defining themselves and everyone else by their job. To me a
>> Relationship must be based on the three Rs; Respect, Reciprocity, and
>> be Real.
>
>There is no *typical* male or female, and my experience has not been that at
>all. You remind me of those people that have those internet things going on,
>spending a lot of time flirting, emailing, sending pics, sharing personal
>information etc., but don't consider it to be disrespectful to their
>spouses. Sorry, you should save all that energy improving your relationship
>at home. Also, you said "she is interested in me, but I don't want to get
>involved." That is not a friendship, it's a flirtation and you know it. Save
>us from old men/women with visions of grandeur. LOL
>
>Cheri

You tell him girl!

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:48:46 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:46:22 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:29:35 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2016-12-12 10:19 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> LOL I doubt it. I seem to recall seeing the prediction as a "headline"
>>>>> on the cover of a tabloid newspaper at the supermarket checkout lane. I
>>>>> also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
>>>>> Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
>>>>> she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
>>>>> yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Grocery stores are sometimes nice places to girl watch, but it is always
>>>>a major disappointment to see a really nice looking lady ahead of you at
>>>>the checkout line when she reaches over and grabs one of those idiotic
>>>>tabloid magazines. It sends a very clear message that they have no brains.
>>>
>>> I thought that was where a lot of people got their political news.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Especially the politicians.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>I thought it was all on twitter

for the reading impaired and those too lazy, they like to look at the
pictures and big print of The Inquirer
Janet US

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:50:04 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:29:35 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2016-12-12 10:19 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> LOL I doubt it. I seem to recall seeing the prediction as a "headline"
>>> on the cover of a tabloid newspaper at the supermarket checkout lane. I
>>> also recall seeing a headline that stated "Judy Garland Still Not
>>> Buried!" Even as a seven year old I knew who Judy Garland was and that
>>> she was dead. I remember asking my mother why haven't they buried her
>>> yet?! Mom told me those papers are full of nonsense.
>>>
>>
>>Grocery stores are sometimes nice places to girl watch, but it is always
>>a major disappointment to see a really nice looking lady ahead of you at
>>the checkout line when she reaches over and grabs one of those idiotic
>>tabloid magazines. It sends a very clear message that they have no brains.
>
>What a ridiculous comment...

So says the King of ridiculous comments...

>all kinds of people browse those rumor rags while they wait to check
>out... I would think at least she can read.

Donald Trump can read too, so I heard.

On 2016-12-12 11:01 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/12/2016 10:50 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:29:35 -0500, Dave Smith

>> What a ridiculous comment... all kinds of people browse those rumor
>> rags while they wait to check out... I would think at least she can
>> read.
>>
> Are you sure it's not the big splashy paparazzi pictures they're looking
> at? I have no interest in buy those rag mags. And yes, I can read. I
> don't need to prove it to someone at the grocery store.


They were not just looking at the rags. They were buying them. It takes
only minimal reading skills to look at those pictures and to read the
captions.

On 2016-12-12 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>> My mother used to joke (or maybe not) when she was growing up you took
>> "a bath a week, whether you need one or not."
>>
>> Jill
>
> No joke. It's the way things were done in the 40s and early 50s.



My SiL's father grew up in the prairies and worked on a harvesting
crew. They got a bath once a week.... on Saturday night. There was one
tub and limited hot water. Being the youngest and having the least
seniority he was the last one to get a bath in the water that a bunch of
guys had already bathed in.
>

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-12-12 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >> My mother used to joke (or maybe not) when she was growing up you took
> >> "a bath a week, whether you need one or not."
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > No joke. It's the way things were done in the 40s and early 50s.
>
>
>
> My SiL's father grew up in the prairies and worked on a harvesting
> crew. They got a bath once a week.... on Saturday night. There was one
> tub and limited hot water. Being the youngest and having the least
> seniority he was the last one to get a bath in the water that a bunch of
> guys had already bathed in.

Have you been reading Charles Dickens again?

On 12/12/2016 11:46 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:27:55 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>>> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
>>> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
>>> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep in
>>> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
>>> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
>>> all, a child of the 1960's.
>>
>> I'm the same way, which is why I wear my hair short. It's styled
>> something like this, but mine is all gray:
>>
>> <http://tvdatabase.wikia.com/wiki/Eaddy_Mays>
>>
>> I think a lot of women cut their hair when they have children.
>> It's easy to take care of, and they can't pull on it. Not, y'know,
>> that I'd actually know for sure.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> They hairdresser once cut mine short, I wasn't paying attention. I
> soon found how nice it was in wash and wear style and have kept it
> ever since
>
Being bald, I like a simple basic haircut and always went to one of
those cheaper, chain hairdressers every 3 months. 6 months ago, the
woman said abruptly that the records said I always had Number 4. She
attached the #4 head to the clippers and zip-zip-zip-zip, I'd had the
shortest haircut (timewise as well) ever! I liked it so rather than put
up with her rudeness, I went to another place 4 months later, much
friendlier, mentioned the #4 and had the same short cut and it lasts at
least 4 months:-)

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> news:32020387-db7e-4e33-8167-
>
>
>> I haven't voluntarily taken a bath since junior high. Once I got
>> the hang of showering, I never looked back.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I've been that way for the past couple of years, but I used to love a nice
> bath. Today my knee mostly prevents tub bathing and I have come to like
> showers much more.
>
> Cheri
> ===========
>
> Your knee??? I've had both mine replaced and i don't have too much
> problem
> with them now.

Yes, I won't do a replacement due to the worry of infection with the
diabetes, and being prone to infection. My brother lost his leg after it, so
I'll just limp along. It's bone on bone, so it is painful at times though.

Cheri