On 12/13/2016 12:07 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 12/13/2016 1:56 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
>>>>> start
>>>>> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
>>>>> >> point
>>>>> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost youth.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length really
>>>>> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>> Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
>>>> silly.
>>>
>>> You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
>>> hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
>>> wear.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I don't know about that, I've seen a lot of stars with very short,
>> almost butch type haircuts, which do look good on them, and I've seen a
>> lot of older women with long hair, but they usually put it up in a
>> french twist etc.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Regarding stars with short hair, Jamie Lee Curtis comes to mind. She
> looks great in a short cut.
>
> Jill
>
> =====================
>
> A lot of people do, but I doubt the reason they have them is because
> they are told they 'look silly' with longer hair because they are over
> 30 <g>
>
LOL I don't know anyone who got their hair cut simply because they
turned 30, or 40 or... I trim my hair when it starts to irritate me or
develops split ends.

It really doesn't matter to me if sf thinks long hair looks silly on a
person over 30. Personally, I can't tell how old anyone is by looking
at them anymore. Not unless we're talking really young dewy faced
teenagers or really old wrinkled people. Don't ask me to guess
someone's age. It certainly doesn't have a thing to do with how they
wear/cut their hair.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 12/13/2016 12:07 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 12/13/2016 1:56 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
>>>>> start
>>>>> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
>>>>> >> point
>>>>> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost youth.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length really
>>>>> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>> Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
>>>> silly.
>>>
>>> You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
>>> hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
>>> wear.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I don't know about that, I've seen a lot of stars with very short,
>> almost butch type haircuts, which do look good on them, and I've seen a
>> lot of older women with long hair, but they usually put it up in a
>> french twist etc.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Regarding stars with short hair, Jamie Lee Curtis comes to mind. She
> looks great in a short cut.
>
> Jill
>
> =====================
>
> A lot of people do, but I doubt the reason they have them is because
> they are told they 'look silly' with longer hair because they are over
> 30 <g>
>
LOL I don't know anyone who got their hair cut simply because they
turned 30, or 40 or... I trim my hair when it starts to irritate me or
develops split ends.

It really doesn't matter to me if sf thinks long hair looks silly on a
person over 30. Personally, I can't tell how old anyone is by looking
at them anymore. Not unless we're talking really young dewy faced
teenagers or really old wrinkled people. Don't ask me to guess
someone's age. It certainly doesn't have a thing to do with how they
wear/cut their hair.

Jill

===

I totally agree)



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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 1:01:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:33:22 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
> > > >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
> > > >> >> start
> > > >> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
> > > >> >> point
> > > >> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost
> > > >> > youth.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length
> > > >> really
> > > >> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
> > > >> with.
> > > >>
> > > >Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
> > > >silly.
> > >
> > > You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
> > > hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
> > > wear.
> > > Janet US
> >
> > Most of the local girls here have extra long hair. My daughter has hair
> > down
> > to her butt. She plans to cut it off and donate it to the American
> > Cancer
> > Society. That would be a pretty gutsy thing to do.
> >
> > =========================
> >
> > Oh my!! What a girl)) You must be so proud of her)
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> My son donates blood. I did not know about this until recently. It seems
> that his goal is to reach a gallon of blood in total. I'm not sure why he
> does it or how he got into it but it speaks highly of his character.
>
> ==========================
>
> Is it an unusual thing to do in the US?? It is common here. I have given
> blood all my adult life.
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I think it is a bit unusual. I've never done it myself but I should. Mostly
it takes something bad to happen to jar folks into giving blood.

======================

In which case, jolly well done him!!! You must be very proud Perhaps you
might join him next time?





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On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:56:35 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:

> Oh I didn't know but then they don't have an NHS and have to pay for
> everything, yes? So I think they should be paid.

Not everybody has to pay for everything. Only 15.4% of the
population (48 million people) are without health insurance,
and some of those do without it voluntarily, preferring to
pay the penalty than the premiums.

My husband has been hospitalized twice (no transfusions, since
that's the implicit topic of this sub-thread) for several days
each, and we never saw a bill.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 11:12:20 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:58:48 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:12:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> >> I think in the US they even get paid for blood, here it is a donation
> >> and much appreciated. I used to be called for years as I was a
> >> perfect match for a local haemophiliac.
> >
> >There are places that buy blood (and plasma), but an awful lot
> >of people donate blood to the Red Cross. My late father-in-law
> >donated at his local hospital, and by the time he died had donated
> >a couple of gallons, if memory serves.
> >
> >My (possibly incorrect) impression is that the places that buy
> >blood products are... low rent. Although I used to know a
> >perfectly nice young couple who made ends meet in part by
> >selling their plasma. I have to say I'd be reluctant to
> >go to one of these places knowing that my red blood cells
> >would be run through their equipment and put back into my
> >veins.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> I used to do that - sometimes he needed it more often than I should
> have supplied it, in those cases they took it, separated it and
> returned the rest to me - I'm still alive.

That's a bit different. I'm talking about going to some sleazy
for-profit outfit in a rough section of town, and letting them hook
me up to a machine that I don't know how well they sanitized it.
No, thank you.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/13/2016 12:19 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-12-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> Sure. Didn't you see her in 'Halloween' and some of the sequels?
>
> You actually watch such tripe. I've yet to see any of 'em. 8|
>
> nb
>
Dude. I saw it at the movies when I was a teenager. At the Mall. It
was the thing teens did where I lived in the 1970's. Mom dropped me off
at the Mall. Met my school friends, went to see the movie. Sure, they
were usually silly grade B movies. Those movies were fun when I was a
teen. Musical score by John Carpenter.

I saw 'Jaws' when it came out, too. Going to the movies was what we did
when we were teenagers.

Appropo of nothing, Jamie Lee Curtis is only two years older than I am.
I still wouldn't wear my hair cut like hers. Wouldn't suit me.

Jill

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 12:17:33 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 12:31:03 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:18:47 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 11:03:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > You should try living in the tropics. You probably won't get away with
> > > > not taking a shower. When it gets real hot I'll take a shower twice a
> > > > day. No, I'm not OCD.
> > >
> > > I don't know exactly where you live, but the average July high in
> > > Kaneohe, HI, is the same as the average July high in Detroit:
> > > about 82 F.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > That's a very interesting theory you got there.
> > ===============
> >
> > I find it isn't so much the heat that causes the problem, but humidity.
> > Malta is a very small island and in the summer times I was always wet. I
> > used to shower several times a day there.
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> This rock would be kind of a hell hole if we didn't have the cooling trade winds. Our being in the middle of a giant body of water also prevents large swings in temperature. We still have to take at least one shower a day in any case.
>
> Average temperatures don't mean much. A bucket of ice water and a bucket
> of boiling water are not the same as two buckets of water even though
> their average temperature might be the same. I'm surprised/disappointed > that someone would believe this.

I know from experience that the daily high in July in Detroit is very
rarely below 70 or above 100. The fact that its average is 82 F seems
about right to me. I looked at another source, and the average temperature
for each day ranges from 83 to 85. That same source lists the
July daily average temperatures for Kaneohe, HI, as 81 or 82 F.

I'm surprised/disappointed that you can't believe the simple
mathematics involved.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:56:35 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:

> Oh I didn't know but then they don't have an NHS and have to pay for
> everything, yes? So I think they should be paid.

Not everybody has to pay for everything. Only 15.4% of the
population (48 million people) are without health insurance,
and some of those do without it voluntarily, preferring to
pay the penalty than the premiums.

My husband has been hospitalized twice (no transfusions, since
that's the implicit topic of this sub-thread) for several days
each, and we never saw a bill.

Cindy Hamilton

============================

That is very good to hear! I don't have a clear impression of your health
services. All I have ever known is our National Health Service really,
although one company I worked for provided private health insurance.



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"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 11:12:20 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:58:48 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:12:56 AM UTC-5,
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I think in the US they even get paid for blood, here it is a donation
> >> and much appreciated. I used to be called for years as I was a
> >> perfect match for a local haemophiliac.
> >
> >There are places that buy blood (and plasma), but an awful lot
> >of people donate blood to the Red Cross. My late father-in-law
> >donated at his local hospital, and by the time he died had donated
> >a couple of gallons, if memory serves.
> >
> >My (possibly incorrect) impression is that the places that buy
> >blood products are... low rent. Although I used to know a
> >perfectly nice young couple who made ends meet in part by
> >selling their plasma. I have to say I'd be reluctant to
> >go to one of these places knowing that my red blood cells
> >would be run through their equipment and put back into my
> >veins.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> I used to do that - sometimes he needed it more often than I should
> have supplied it, in those cases they took it, separated it and
> returned the rest to me - I'm still alive.

That's a bit different. I'm talking about going to some sleazy
for-profit outfit in a rough section of town, and letting them hook
me up to a machine that I don't know how well they sanitized it.
No, thank you.

Cindy Hamilton

======

The though of that is frightening.

http://www.helpforheroes.org.ukt

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:47:39 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 1:01:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:33:22 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
> > > > >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
> > > > >> >> start
> > > > >> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
> > > > >> >> point
> > > > >> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost
> > > > >> > youth.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length
> > > > >> really
> > > > >> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
> > > > >> with.
> > > > >>
> > > > >Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
> > > > >silly.
> > > >
> > > > You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
> > > > hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
> > > > wear.
> > > > Janet US
> > >
> > > Most of the local girls here have extra long hair. My daughter has hair
> > > down
> > > to her butt. She plans to cut it off and donate it to the American
> > > Cancer
> > > Society. That would be a pretty gutsy thing to do.
> > >
> > > =========================
> > >
> > > Oh my!! What a girl)) You must be so proud of her)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > My son donates blood. I did not know about this until recently. It seems
> > that his goal is to reach a gallon of blood in total. I'm not sure why he
> > does it or how he got into it but it speaks highly of his character.
> >
> > ==========================
> >
> > Is it an unusual thing to do in the US?? It is common here. I have given
> > blood all my adult life.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> I think it is a bit unusual. I've never done it myself but I should. Mostly
> it takes something bad to happen to jar folks into giving blood.
>
> ======================
>
> In which case, jolly well done him!!! You must be very proud Perhaps you
> might join him next time?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That's a good idea. I'll try it at least once.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:47:39 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 1:01:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:33:22 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B.
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown
> > > > >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
> > > > >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have
> > > > >> >> to
> > > > >> >> start
> > > > >> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes
> > > > >> >> a
> > > > >> >> point
> > > > >> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost
> > > > >> > youth.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length
> > > > >> really
> > > > >> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm
> > > > >> comfortable
> > > > >> with.
> > > > >>
> > > > >Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
> > > > >silly.
> > > >
> > > > You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
> > > > hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
> > > > wear.
> > > > Janet US
> > >
> > > Most of the local girls here have extra long hair. My daughter has
> > > hair
> > > down
> > > to her butt. She plans to cut it off and donate it to the American
> > > Cancer
> > > Society. That would be a pretty gutsy thing to do.
> > >
> > > =========================
> > >
> > > Oh my!! What a girl)) You must be so proud of her)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > My son donates blood. I did not know about this until recently. It seems
> > that his goal is to reach a gallon of blood in total. I'm not sure why
> > he
> > does it or how he got into it but it speaks highly of his character.
> >
> > ==========================
> >
> > Is it an unusual thing to do in the US?? It is common here. I have
> > given
> > blood all my adult life.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> I think it is a bit unusual. I've never done it myself but I should.
> Mostly
> it takes something bad to happen to jar folks into giving blood.
>
> ======================
>
> In which case, jolly well done him!!! You must be very proud Perhaps
> you
> might join him next time?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That's a good idea. I'll try it at least once.
===

Oh go on!! It's easy peasy <g> especially for a big tough bloke like you)



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On 12/13/2016 11:19 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:08:12 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/13/2016 2:04 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On 12/12/2016 1:36 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:09:38 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 11:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >>>>>>> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
>>>>>>> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
>>>>>>> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to
>>>>>>> sleep in
>>>>>>> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
>>>>>>> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
>>>>>>> all, a child of the 1960's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same here but I just like to keep my hair up. Never needs to be cut
>>>>>>> and I wash it myself. Suits me just fine)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pull my hair in a pony tail so it doesn't get in the way (or hair
>>>>>> fall
>>>>>> into food when cooking). Other than that, I don't fuss around with
>>>>>> my hair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Pony tails are very 1950s !!!
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe so but it keeps my hair out of the food when I'm cooking.
>>>> Occasionally I french braid it or clip it up. I simply don't like
>>>> myself in short hair.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Also, a whole lot of teens are wearing them these days, everything that
>>> was old becomes new again in style as they say. I'm waiting for the 40's
>>> to come back since I love those styles.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I loved the 40's style women's suits. Slim skirts and jackets with
>> shoulder pads! Styles seem to come back around again about every 20
>> years. Kids these days think tie-dye is a new invention. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
> Shoulder pads were already back in, 80s I think, bloody uncomfortable.
>
I worked in an office and they looked quite stylish.

Jill

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I find it isn't so much the heat that causes the problem, but humidity.
> Malta is a very small island and in the summer times I was always wet. I
> used to shower several times a day there.

Here in Virginia Beach, the heat (and more importantly) the humidity
is brutal here during the summer. And I work outside in the weather
too. I take 2-3 showers most days.

Even in the winter, I will often take 2 long hot showers just to
knock off the chill.

I've never had any skin problems by overshowing.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:33:22 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
> > > >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
> > > >> >> start
> > > >> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
> > > >> >> point
> > > >> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost
> > > >> > youth.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length
> > > >> really
> > > >> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
> > > >> with.
> > > >>
> > > >Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
> > > >silly.
> > >
> > > You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
> > > hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
> > > wear.
> > > Janet US
> >
> > Most of the local girls here have extra long hair. My daughter has hair
> > down
> > to her butt. She plans to cut it off and donate it to the American Cancer
> > Society. That would be a pretty gutsy thing to do.
> >
> > =========================
> >
> > Oh my!! What a girl)) You must be so proud of her)
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> My son donates blood. I did not know about this until recently. It seems
> that his goal is to reach a gallon of blood in total. I'm not sure why he
> does it or how he got into it but it speaks highly of his character.
>
> ==========================
>
> Is it an unusual thing to do in the US?? It is common here. I have given
> blood all my adult life.

Back when I was married (1978-1987), wife and I always went to a
Red Cross blood drive when they were nearby. I'm sure I've given
at least a gallon over that time.

I forget what they take. Is it a pint or maybe a half pint?
Never hear about them anymore here or I would still give
some as long as the "bloodmobile" was in the area.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:41:23 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:56:35 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Oh I didn't know but then they don't have an NHS and have to pay for
>> everything, yes? So I think they should be paid.
>
>Not everybody has to pay for everything. Only 15.4% of the
>population (48 million people) are without health insurance,
>and some of those do without it voluntarily, preferring to
>pay the penalty than the premiums.
>
>My husband has been hospitalized twice (no transfusions, since
>that's the implicit topic of this sub-thread) for several days
>each, and we never saw a bill.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
After David died I asked my kids to be sure to donate so that we
replaced what had been given to him.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:46:39 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 11:12:20 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:58:48 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:12:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think in the US they even get paid for blood, here it is a donation
>> >> and much appreciated. I used to be called for years as I was a
>> >> perfect match for a local haemophiliac.
>> >
>> >There are places that buy blood (and plasma), but an awful lot
>> >of people donate blood to the Red Cross. My late father-in-law
>> >donated at his local hospital, and by the time he died had donated
>> >a couple of gallons, if memory serves.
>> >
>> >My (possibly incorrect) impression is that the places that buy
>> >blood products are... low rent. Although I used to know a
>> >perfectly nice young couple who made ends meet in part by
>> >selling their plasma. I have to say I'd be reluctant to
>> >go to one of these places knowing that my red blood cells
>> >would be run through their equipment and put back into my
>> >veins.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I used to do that - sometimes he needed it more often than I should
>> have supplied it, in those cases they took it, separated it and
>> returned the rest to me - I'm still alive.
>
>That's a bit different. I'm talking about going to some sleazy
>for-profit outfit in a rough section of town, and letting them hook
>me up to a machine that I don't know how well they sanitized it.
>No, thank you.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Yes that's a thinker, this was at the Red Cross.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2016-12-13 10:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > I loved the 40's style women's suits. Slim skirts and jackets with
> > shoulder pads! Styles seem to come back around again about every 20
> > years. Kids these days think tie-dye is a new invention. LOL
>
> I had to chuckle at a Woodstock tribute band and their matching tie-dye
> look T shirts.

When my daughter was in high school (mid 90's) they all rediscovered
Led Zepplin. hahaha She was shocked when I pulled out 3 old lp albums
and one 8-track tape/album of LZ from the 70's. :-D

And in 1971, I had a pair of tye-dyed bell bottom pants too. gasp!@

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I find it isn't so much the heat that causes the problem, but humidity.
> Malta is a very small island and in the summer times I was always wet. I
> used to shower several times a day there.

Here in Virginia Beach, the heat (and more importantly) the humidity
is brutal here during the summer. And I work outside in the weather
too. I take 2-3 showers most days.

Even in the winter, I will often take 2 long hot showers just to
knock off the chill.

I've never had any skin problems by overshowing.

Um that would be 'over showering') Soaking was a different matter

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:56:35 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > Oh I didn't know but then they don't have an NHS and have to pay for
> > everything, yes? So I think they should be paid.
>
> Not everybody has to pay for everything. Only 15.4% of the
> population (48 million people) are without health insurance,
> and some of those do without it voluntarily, preferring to
> pay the penalty than the premiums.
>
> My husband has been hospitalized twice (no transfusions, since
> that's the implicit topic of this sub-thread) for several days
> each, and we never saw a bill.

That sounds like Medicaid to me. Even the best insurance policies
have some degree of deductible and copay.

On 2016-12-13, > wrote:
>
> Yes that's a thinker, this was at the Red Cross.

I don't know what the deal is now, but back in the 70s I read how Red
Cross and some other blood donor organization were at each other's
throats cuz there was a $75 fee fer each pt of blood. Even if you
donated yer own blood beforehand, you were still charge $75 pt.

Dog knows what they charge now. 8|

nb

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
>>>> >> start
>>>> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
>>>> >> point
>>>> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost youth.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length really
>>>> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
>>>silly.
>>
>> You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
>> hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
>> wear.
>> Janet US
>
> I don't know about that, I've seen a lot of stars with very short, almost
> butch type haircuts, which do look good on them, and I've seen a lot of
> older women with long hair, but they usually put it up in a french twist
> etc.
>
> Cheri
>
> =======================
>
> I think everyone should be able to wear their hair in whatever way they
> like. We really don't need an 'asshole' to demand how we should wear it.

I think everyone probably does wear their hair the way they want, except
maybe due to religion or something of the sort. Personally, I have never
paid attention to demands. ;-)

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:12:24 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2016 3:55 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:18:32 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I don't think that there is any specific age when women have to
>>>> >> start
>>>> >> getting their hair cut shorter, but for most women there comes a
>>>> >> point
>>>> >> where they would be well advised to reconsider the long locks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Agree. They look like they're trying to recapture their lost youth.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length really
>>>> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
>>>silly.
>>
>> You just wiped out all of Hollywood, the media , royalty. A short
>> hair cut appears around here to be the thing that older hausfraus
>> wear.
>> Janet US
>
> I don't know about that, I've seen a lot of stars with very short, almost
> butch type haircuts, which do look good on them, and I've seen a lot of
> older women with long hair, but they usually put it up in a french twist
> etc.
>
> Cheri
>
> =======================
>
> I think everyone should be able to wear their hair in whatever way they
> like. We really don't need an 'asshole' to demand how we should wear it.

I think everyone probably does wear their hair the way they want, except
maybe due to religion or something of the sort. Personally, I have never
paid attention to demands. ;-)

Cheri

============================

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:35:49 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 12/12/2016 12:27 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have never found a short hair style that I liked on myself. I'm not
>> >> one who is willing to spend time fussing with my hair. No sleeping in
>> >> curlers like my mother did (how one earth does anyone manage to sleep
>> >> in
>> >> those things?!) No blow drying or styling. I just want to wash it,
>> >> comb it out, let it dry naturally and go on about my day. I am, after
>> >> all, a child of the 1960's.
>> >
>> > I'm the same way, which is why I wear my hair short. It's styled
>> > something like this, but mine is all gray:
>> >
>> > <http://tvdatabase.wikia.com/wiki/Eaddy_Mays>
>> >
>> > I think a lot of women cut their hair when they have children.
>> > It's easy to take care of, and they can't pull on it. Not, y'know,
>> > that I'd actually know for sure.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> That's very cute but it wouldn't fit my face.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It probably doesn't fit my face, either, but I don't care. I'm
> pretty pragmatic about my grooming.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Everything I like fits my face. ;-)

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news

> There is no magical age at which women need to change their hairstyle.
>
> Jill

Or anything else for that matter.

Cheri

On 12/13/2016 11:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-13 9:04 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 12/12/2016 10:12 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:11:42 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I never "lost" my youth, I simply got older. My hair length really
>>>> doesn't have anything to do with my age. It's what I'm comfortable
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>> Suit yourself, Jill. I think anyone over 30 with long hair looks
>>> silly.
>>
>> I'll take it:
>>
>> http://www.cindy.com/
>>
> That would be another exception to the rule. Really good looking women
> who spend a lot of money on their appearance, get facials and spend a
> lot of time and money in hair salons can pull it off. Most cannot.

Plenty do, and I don't think they look silly at all.

Doesn't matter, I'm pretty sure most of us don't worry what other
people, especially strangers, think of the hair style we prefer.

nancy

"Cheri" wrote in message news

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news

> There is no magical age at which women need to change their hairstyle.
>
> Jill

Or anything else for that matter.

Cheri

=====================

Exactly!!!!!! ))))))

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> wrote in message
...

> Lol - the other day I was with three other women when one of them made
> a scathing remark about old, white haired women! I responded that I
> felt the three 'blonde' women I was with were liars, they were
> naturally white. I then asked them if they had looked around and
> noticed that blonde is the 'blue rinse' of today?

No scathing remarks from them about old, white haired men? LOL

Cheri

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/13/2016 2:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> Funny thing, I was really new to computers, still am to an extent, but I
>> actually did wait to see what would happen to my computer and dial up
>> and had candles etc. in case the lights and things went.
>
> That's a reasonable reaction to the event. Non event, as it turns out.
>
>> I was very
>> relieved that they all worked. Now I wonder who the Hell started all of
>> that in the first place? LOL
>
> It was already under discussion in the late 70s, so I don't know
> who picked it up as an end of the world, planes falling out of the
> sky scenario.
>
> Someone told me that a certain religion was instructing followers
> about how to carry on if the church didn't survive Y2K. Uh, okay.
> I don't even know what that means.
>
> nancy

I remember something about that, but don't remember the details.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/13/2016 2:11 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:50:13 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2016 1:57 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> for the reading impaired and those too lazy, they like to look at the
>>>>> pictures and big print of The Inquirer
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, thought that was the *Enquirer*.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Got me, I really don't look or read if I can help it. It's impossible
>>> not to see the screaming headlines when you are putting your groceries
>>> on the conveyor.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I saw one where Jerry Sheindlin was cheating on Judy with a waitress.
>> Never read the story, but I got a chuckle out of the headline, but I'm
>> sure if it was true the next headline would be...Jerry Sheindlin found
>> dead.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I may be wrong, probably am, but it seems to me she divorced him once
> years ago and they later remarried. (I don't tend to follow celebrity
> gossip.)
>
> Jill

Yes, I believe that's true. She has joked that she's been married 3 times,
once to her first husband and twice to Jerry.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...


> And in 1971, I had a pair of tye-dyed bell bottom pants too. gasp!@

Bell bottoms were better than the pegged leg pants that men wore in the
60's. I bet you were quite stylish.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/13/2016 11:19 AM, wrote:

>> Shoulder pads were already back in, 80s I think, bloody uncomfortable.
>>
> I worked in an office and they looked quite stylish.
>
> Jill

Why uncomfortable? I never found anything uncomfortable about them.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> Regarding stars with short hair, Jamie Lee Curtis comes to mind. She
> looks great in a short cut.
>
> Jill

Yes, we had recently discussed short hair and head shape, it suits her well.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/12/2016 10:49 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> The ogre she was with for twenty years moved
>> to be with some women in the Caroliners, perhaps the creep is shacked
>> up with Jill. But I doubt it, Jill would beat the crap out of him...
>> any man abused her he'd have a nine iron shoved up his ass.
>
> You got that right! LOL No man would ever survive raising his hand to me.
>
> Employees in stores around here tend to strike up conversations and they
> tell me all sorts of things. I know the 36 year old woman at the Exxon
> (gas/petrol) station had a hysterectomy a couple of years ago due to
> medical problems. (She kept emphasizing to me it took a *white
> woman*/doctor to diagnose her condition correctly. Uh, okay. I don't
> know what race has to do with it, you just went to the wrong doctors.)
>
> It all started because I was wearing shorts & a tank top when I went to
> put gas in the car. All the other customers were bundled up as if it was
> cold outside. It was 70F degrees! Of course I was wearing shorts and a
> sleevless top. Comfortable! She said she gets hot flashes. And (like
> you) when she asked my age she didn't believe me. You want t see my ID?
> No, but she thought I might have a suggestion about how to deal with hot
> flashes. Uh... not really. I sleep with the ceiling fan on, year round.
> I thought about it later, there's an OTC medicine, Estrovan? How about
> one of those Chill-O things you tuck in your pillow case? I don't really
> have a problem with hot flashes. I just like to be comfortably cool.
>
> I don't invite conversation, it just happens. Of course I don't go home
> and then email them, either...
>
> Jill

A lot of older people are happy to tell you all of their health problems at
every opportunity which discourages my asking "how are you today" in casual
conversation.

Cheri

On 13 Dec 2016 20:14:44 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-12-13, > wrote:
>>
>> Yes that's a thinker, this was at the Red Cross.
>
>I don't know what the deal is now, but back in the 70s I read how Red
>Cross and some other blood donor organization were at each other's
>throats cuz there was a $75 fee fer each pt of blood. Even if you
>donated yer own blood beforehand, you were still charge $75 pt.
>
>Dog knows what they charge now. 8|
>
>nb

In Canada you don't get paid for donating but neither do you get
charged for receiving blood.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:30:01 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> Lol - the other day I was with three other women when one of them made
>> a scathing remark about old, white haired women! I responded that I
>> felt the three 'blonde' women I was with were liars, they were
>> naturally white. I then asked them if they had looked around and
>> noticed that blonde is the 'blue rinse' of today?
>
>No scathing remarks from them about old, white haired men? LOL
>
>Cheri

You should have seen their faces, they were pictures okay~~ why do so
many grey-white haired women use a blone rinse ? Of the four of us, I
was probably the only one who was originally blonde anyway!

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:37:12 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
>
>> And in 1971, I had a pair of tye-dyed bell bottom pants too. gasp!@
>
>Bell bottoms were better than the pegged leg pants that men wore in the
>60's. I bet you were quite stylish.
>
>Cheri

I'm thinking of the ghastly 'leisure suits' men wore in the 70s lol

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:38:56 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 12/13/2016 11:19 AM, wrote:
>
>>> Shoulder pads were already back in, 80s I think, bloody uncomfortable.
>>>
>> I worked in an office and they looked quite stylish.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Why uncomfortable? I never found anything uncomfortable about them.
>
>Cheri

They seemed to slip around and didn't stay where they were supposed to
be.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 13 Dec 2016 20:14:44 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-12-13, > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes that's a thinker, this was at the Red Cross.
> >
> >I don't know what the deal is now, but back in the 70s I read how Red
> >Cross and some other blood donor organization were at each other's
> >throats cuz there was a $75 fee fer each pt of blood. Even if you
> >donated yer own blood beforehand, you were still charge $75 pt.
> >
> >Dog knows what they charge now. 8|
> >
> >nb
>
> In Canada you don't get paid for donating but neither do you get
> charged for receiving blood.

I've never heard of getting charged for receiving blood.

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:52:15 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:56:35 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > Oh I didn't know but then they don't have an NHS and have to pay for
> > > everything, yes? So I think they should be paid.
> >
> > Not everybody has to pay for everything. Only 15.4% of the
> > population (48 million people) are without health insurance,
> > and some of those do without it voluntarily, preferring to
> > pay the penalty than the premiums.
> >
> > My husband has been hospitalized twice (no transfusions, since
> > that's the implicit topic of this sub-thread) for several days
> > each, and we never saw a bill.
>
> That sounds like Medicaid to me. Even the best insurance policies
> have some degree of deductible and copay.

Apparently, my husband's insurance is extremely generous when
you show up at the ER and are subsequently admitted to the
hospital.

In point of fact, his company is self-insured, but they use a
third-party administrator.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 3:58:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

> I've never heard of getting charged for receiving blood.

In the U.S., if you don't have insurance, it can cost anywhere
from $1300 to $3500 per unit of blood.

Cindy Hamilton