In article >, The New Other
Guy says...
>
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
> >> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >>
> >> > I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
> >> > the dryer
> >> >
> >> > ============
> >> >
> >> > I don't seem to have any problems with that.
> >> >
> >> > Sheila? Do you?
> >> >
> >> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
> >> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
> >> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
> >> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
> >> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
> >>
> >> How about in US?
> >
> >You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
> >no sense.
>
> Brits don't seem to understand that California is more
> than *3 times* larger than England, and California is
> but a small part of the United States.
>
> The continental US is almost 3.2 million square miles,
> and California is 359,000 of that. England is just over
> 50,000 square miles.

But European countries have a higher resolution than the new world.

On 2016-12-07 8:47 PM, The New Other Guy wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>> the dryer
>>>>
>>>> ============
>>>>
>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>
>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>
>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>
>>> How about in US?
>>
>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>> no sense.
>
> Brits don't seem to understand that California is more
> than *3 times* larger than England, and California is
> but a small part of the United States.


?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
are can't dry our laundry on the line?

>

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-12-07 8:47 PM, The New Other Guy wrote:
> > On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> >> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >>> How about in US?
> >>
> >> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
> >> no sense.
> >
> > Brits don't seem to understand that California is more
> > than *3 times* larger than England, and California is
> > but a small part of the United States.
>
>
> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
> are can't dry our laundry on the line?

California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:47:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

My wife was quite impressed with your green and pleasant land. She yearns to live there one day. That's the absolute truth.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:53:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:47:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
>>
>
>My wife was quite impressed with your green and pleasant land. She yearns to live there one day. That's the absolute truth.

I hope you don't have any life insurance cover.

On 12/7/2016 7:37 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,

>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>> laundry (I have to use _lots_ of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is a
>> fair distance from the road. _Very_ rarely a bird will drop a bomb on my
>> laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago.
>
> +1.
>
> Sheila, I use these pegs for very windy exposed washing line in
> Scotland
>
> http://www.exquisitescotland.com/merchandise/k-pegs/
>
> Expensive but worth every penny, they never break, rust or let go.
>
Thank you! When my current batch need replacing, I'll try some of those.
Do they get pitted from salt spray?

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:47:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

My wife was quite impressed with your green and pleasant land. She yearns to
live there one day. That's the absolute truth.

=========================

So, will you make it happen? )



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On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:47:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> My wife was quite impressed with your green and pleasant land. She yearns to
> live there one day. That's the absolute truth.
>
> =========================
>
> So, will you make it happen? )
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Maybe, maybe...

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 6:41:30 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:12:58 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use the dryer.
> >
> >
> Only time pollen is a problem around here is in the Spring.

We get pollen pretty much from April to September/October.
Summer also features dust (especially when people mow their
lawns) and autumn has leaves and leaf fragments. When
it's rainy, there are mold spores in the air. Most of those
are allergens for my husband. The dryer it is, for us.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
> >> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >>
> >> > I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
> >> > the dryer
> >> >
> >> > ============
> >> >
> >> > I don't seem to have any problems with that.
> >> >
> >> > Sheila? Do you?
> >> >
> >> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
> >> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
> >> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
> >> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
> >> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
> >>
> >> How about in US?
> >
> >You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
> >no sense.
>
> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.

Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:47:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> My wife was quite impressed with your green and pleasant land. She yearns
> to
> live there one day. That's the absolute truth.
>
> =========================
>
> So, will you make it happen? )
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Maybe, maybe...

====

))


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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> >Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>> >> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>> >> Ophelia wrote:
>> >> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >>
>> >> > I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>> >> > the dryer
>> >> >
>> >> > ============
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sheila? Do you?
>> >> >
>> >> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>> >> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>> >> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>> >> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>> >> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>> >>
>> >> How about in US?
>> >
>> >You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>> >no sense.
>>
>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>
> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I like it much better too, did too much clothes hanging as a kid and have no
wish to do it now.

Cheri

On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.

I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
comes out nicer from the dryer.

And don't get me started on frozen jeans.

nancy

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 15:57:10 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
>On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use the
>> dryer
>>
>> ============
>>
>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>
>> Sheila? Do you?
>>
>The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>laundry (I have to use _lots_ of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is a
>fair distance from the road. _Very_ rarely a bird will drop a bomb on my
>laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago.
>===
>
>How about in US?

I grew up with line dried laundry. When I got married we lived
alongside of the Mississippi river and in the spring the area would be
overwhelmed with May flies. They used to get out the snow plows to
get them off of the bridges so cars wouldn't slip. That was the end
of line drying. When we moved here our subdivision had rules against
hanging clothes to dry, etc.
Janet US

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:47:41 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 6:41:30 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 7:12:58 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> > I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use the dryer.
>> >
>> >
>> Only time pollen is a problem around here is in the Spring.
>
>We get pollen pretty much from April to September/October.
>Summer also features dust (especially when people mow their
>lawns) and autumn has leaves and leaf fragments. When
>it's rainy, there are mold spores in the air. Most of those
>are allergens for my husband. The dryer it is, for us.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Oh, yes. Various pollens spring through late fall. And dust because
we are in a very dry area.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 15:57:10 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
>On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use the
>> dryer
>>
>> ============
>>
>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>
>> Sheila? Do you?
>>
>The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>laundry (I have to use _lots_ of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is a
>fair distance from the road. _Very_ rarely a bird will drop a bomb on my
>laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago.
>===
>
>How about in US?

I grew up with line dried laundry. When I got married we lived
alongside of the Mississippi river and in the spring the area would be
overwhelmed with May flies. They used to get out the snow plows to
get them off of the bridges so cars wouldn't slip. That was the end
of line drying. When we moved here our subdivision had rules against
hanging clothes to dry, etc.
Janet US

=========================

If you were allowed and there were no flies to bother about, would you hang
out your clothes to dry?

I wouldn't hang mine out if it would get covered with flies or a lot of
pollen either.

I don't get any of those problems. If there is a nice wind, the clothes are
not stiff either

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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>> the dryer
>>>>
>>>> ============
>>>>
>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>
>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>
>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>
>>> How about in US?
>>
>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>> no sense.
>
> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
> Janet US
>
We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.

Jill

On 12/6/2016 9:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/6/2016 8:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't get the one who said there were no dryers - I had a washer and
>>> dryer in 1967 prior to leaving the UK.
>>
>> Me neither; it's nonsense. Tumble dryers are commonplace in the home,
>> even in rented accommodation. For tourists, hotels offer laundry
>> services and there are high street businesses offering service washes.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
> People often make dumb assumptions. We rented a villa in Italy that had
> a washer, but no dryer. Therefore dryers do not exist in Italy.
> (We did take a basket of wet clothes to a laundromat in town)

I've never been to Europe or England but I see those combo washer/dryer
units all the time on the show 'House Hunters International'. Yes, even
in rented flats. I always thought those combo units were a great idea.
I don't know why they haven't caught on in the U.S.

Jill

On 2016-12-08 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>
> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>

It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
bit to reduce energy consumption.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:12:37 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 15:57:10 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use the
>>> dryer
>>>
>>> ============
>>>
>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>
>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>
>>The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>laundry (I have to use _lots_ of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is a
>>fair distance from the road. _Very_ rarely a bird will drop a bomb on my
>>laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago.
>>===
>>
>>How about in US?
>
>I grew up with line dried laundry. When I got married we lived
>alongside of the Mississippi river and in the spring the area would be
>overwhelmed with May flies. They used to get out the snow plows to
>get them off of the bridges so cars wouldn't slip. That was the end
>of line drying. When we moved here our subdivision had rules against
>hanging clothes to dry, etc.
>Janet US
>
>=========================
>
>If you were allowed and there were no flies to bother about, would you hang
>out your clothes to dry?
>
>I wouldn't hang mine out if it would get covered with flies or a lot of
>pollen either.
>
>I don't get any of those problems. If there is a nice wind, the clothes are
>not stiff either

These aren't the black flies with transparent wings you are thinking
of. You need to read the attached article and view the photos to
understand. BTW, the city, LaCrosse, that they mention is where I was
living when I gave of line drying.
This is truly ick
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5614449.html
I have hung clothes out in freezing weather when we lived in New
Jersey. I wanted to hang clothes out where we are now but even if
there were no regulations against it, it would be a bad idea. The
city is somewhat adjacent to a high mountain desert on one side (dusty
and windy) and dry land foliage in the foothills. So we get pollen
from all sorts of allergy plants all growing season. There are enough
pines around me that for about 6 weeks the windshield of your car,
your driveway, anything outside, is covered with yellow pollen. Dryers
are good
Janet US

On 2016-12-07 10:41 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
>> are can't dry our laundry on the line?
>
> California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
> square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
>

Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
postpone the washing for a day.

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>> the dryer
>>>>
>>>> ============
>>>>
>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>
>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>
>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>
>>> How about in US?
>>
>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>> no sense.
>
> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
> Janet US
>
We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.

Jill

=================

Heh nor do I! That is when the dryer definitely gets used



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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:12:37 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 15:57:10 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use the
>>> dryer
>>>
>>> ============
>>>
>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>
>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>
>>The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>laundry (I have to use _lots_ of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is a
>>fair distance from the road. _Very_ rarely a bird will drop a bomb on my
>>laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago.
>>===
>>
>>How about in US?
>
>I grew up with line dried laundry. When I got married we lived
>alongside of the Mississippi river and in the spring the area would be
>overwhelmed with May flies. They used to get out the snow plows to
>get them off of the bridges so cars wouldn't slip. That was the end
>of line drying. When we moved here our subdivision had rules against
>hanging clothes to dry, etc.
>Janet US
>
>=========================
>
>If you were allowed and there were no flies to bother about, would you
>hang
>out your clothes to dry?
>
>I wouldn't hang mine out if it would get covered with flies or a lot of
>pollen either.
>
>I don't get any of those problems. If there is a nice wind, the clothes
>are
>not stiff either

These aren't the black flies with transparent wings you are thinking
of. You need to read the attached article and view the photos to
understand. BTW, the city, LaCrosse, that they mention is where I was
living when I gave of line drying.
This is truly ick
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5614449.html
I have hung clothes out in freezing weather when we lived in New
Jersey. I wanted to hang clothes out where we are now but even if
there were no regulations against it, it would be a bad idea. The
city is somewhat adjacent to a high mountain desert on one side (dusty
and windy) and dry land foliage in the foothills. So we get pollen
from all sorts of allergy plants all growing season. There are enough
pines around me that for about 6 weeks the windshield of your car,
your driveway, anything outside, is covered with yellow pollen. Dryers
are good
Janet US

==================

I wasn't thinking of any because I didn't know what they were but .... dear
oh dear oh dear!!!!!

No, I definitely would NOT want those on my washing!!! I have never seen
anything like that!

Oh boy, you really need your dryers!



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 11:47:03 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-08 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
> >> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
> >> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
> >
> > Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
> > clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
> >
>
> It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
> problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
> smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
> towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
> bit to reduce energy consumption.

Everybody's different. I like the smell of dryer-dried clothes.
You iron, don't you? I don't. If I buy something that ends up
requiring ironing, I give it to the Goodwill.

When our towels get too scratchy, my husband starts demanding new ones.
He gets them, too. He's worth it.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-12-07 10:41 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
> >> are can't dry our laundry on the line?
> >
> > California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
> > square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
> >
>
> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
> postpone the washing for a day.

We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer. Probably. I've
never heard of a pollen problem with that.

On 2016-12-08 12:51 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
>> problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
>> smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
>> towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
>> bit to reduce energy consumption.
>
> Everybody's different. I like the smell of dryer-dried clothes.
> You iron, don't you?

Goodness gracious no. I have on occasion had to iron dress pants or a
shirt that have been hanging long enough to get weird creases, but
shirts, underwear, sheets etc are all permapress.

I don't. If I buy something that ends up
> requiring ironing, I give it to the Goodwill.
>
> When our towels get too scratchy, my husband starts demanding new ones.
> He gets them, too. He's worth it.

I like the way rough towels scrape the water off ;-)

On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 05:08:43 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Dave Smith says...
>>
>> On 2016-12-07 10:41 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> >> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
>> >> are can't dry our laundry on the line?
>> >
>> > California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
>> > square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
>>
>> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
>> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
>> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
>> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
>> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
>> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
>> postpone the washing for a day.
>
>We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer.

LOL, the feminazis will love that comment

> Probably. I've
>never heard of a pollen problem with that.

I've never had a problem with pollen and washing either.

I might be having another problem with pollen though, that being
asthma. Haven't had asthma since I was a kid (with a few very rare
exceptions) but upon retuning from my holidays I do now. Only mild
thankfully. Something is different this year but I don't know what it
is at this stage... although all those asthma deaths in Melbourne
recently can't be a coincidence.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:51:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> I find that hung clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.

Must be your water and/or washing powder or liquid. I hang my washing
and it remains soft when dry.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:48:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
>problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
>smell of air dried clothes.

I guess it can depend on where you live too, some places might not
have very fresh air, etc.

I like my washing air dried too, especially sheets. I have a long
clothes line along my back verandah, out of the sun and away from any
potential bird poo. I find that also helps keep fabrics lasting
longer, away from the sun (we have high levels of UV here).

The washing still dries quickly enough even though in the shade but I
also have a line out in the open too if I'm in a hurry or have done a
lot of washing, especially bedding.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>
> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>
> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>
> nancy

That too.

Cheri

On 2016-12-08 1:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:51:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

>> I find that hung clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>
> Must be your water and/or washing powder or liquid. I hang my washing
> and it remains soft when dry.


Shirts, underwear, socks, sheets and dish towels are nice and soft when
air dried. Bath towels tend to be a little rough. I don't have a problem
with it. They soften up when used.

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 9:21:15 AM UTC-6, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>
> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>
> nancy
>
>
UGH, my mom hung out EVERYTHING even in the dead of winter
and we had a dryer. LIke you said, stuff just froze on the
line. I hated/hate line dried towels thus those go in the
dryer but I love sheets dried on the line and a lot easier
to fold and put away than when they've come out of the dryer.
But since it is too cold to be hanging out sheets now they
go into my dryer which I'm pleased as punch to have.

Bras are hung out on one those multiple arms with clips
thingies. In the wintertime they're still hung on this
contraption but then it is hung on the shower curtain rod.

Here's the one I have but mine is plastic.

https://www.amazon.com/SOLOOP-Stainl...+clothes+clips

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:38:23 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> I've never been to Europe or England but I see those combo washer/dryer
> units all the time on the show 'House Hunters International'. Yes, even
> in rented flats. I always thought those combo units were a great idea.
> I don't know why they haven't caught on in the U.S.
>
> Jill
>
>
The combo washers were available here many years ago and
I suppose they fell out of favor as you can be drying one
load while washing another with separate machines. With
a combo model it's one of the other thus making your wash
day/evening longer.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 07:34:38 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 12/7/2016 7:37 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>
>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>> laundry (I have to use _lots_ of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is a
>>> fair distance from the road. _Very_ rarely a bird will drop a bomb on my
>>> laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago.
>>
>> +1.
>>
>> Sheila, I use these pegs for very windy exposed washing line in
>> Scotland
>>
>> http://www.exquisitescotland.com/merchandise/k-pegs/
>>
>> Expensive but worth every penny, they never break, rust or let go.
>>
>Thank you! When my current batch need replacing, I'll try some of those.
>Do they get pitted from salt spray?

Nice nipple clamps.

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:43:58 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:51:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > I find that hung clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>
> Must be your water and/or washing powder or liquid. I hang my washing
> and it remains soft when dry.

Possibly. I only hang laundry when the dryer is broken or if
I've got some wet towels that were used for outdoor stuff, so
I don't have a great deal of experience. Perhaps the breeze
is a factor in softening things. We have a minuscule number
of things that can't be put in the dryer, and they usually are
hung up indoors. They come out stiff as a board, and then I
cheat and put them in the dryer on no heat for a few minutes
to soften them up.

Another factor is time. It takes seconds to toss a load of laundry
into the dryer, and much longer to pin things to a clothesline.
I remember my grandmother doing it. My mother couldn't be bothered,
and used her dryer pretty exclusively.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:50:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:

> Bras are hung out on one those multiple arms with clips
> thingies. In the wintertime they're still hung on this
> contraption but then it is hung on the shower curtain rod.

I pile a week's worth onto a regular coat hanger and hang
the coat hanger more-or-less in front of a heat register.
We run the furnace blower 24/7/365, so they dry pretty
quickly.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-12-08 3:45 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Another factor is time. It takes seconds to toss a load of laundry
> into the dryer, and much longer to pin things to a clothesline.
> I remember my grandmother doing it. My mother couldn't be bothered,
> and used her dryer pretty exclusively.
>

Nothing wrong with getting out and enjoying a bit of fresh air in the
morning.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:21:01 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>
>I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>comes out nicer from the dryer.
>
>And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>
>nancy

And dryers remove lint.

On 2016-12-08 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:21:01 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>>
>> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>>
>> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>>
>> nancy
>
> And dryers remove lint.

They also help to produce that lint by jostling the items together.


Speaking of lint.... one of my jobs yesterday was to reconnect the vent
hose to the dryer. It had somehow come part way off so the dryer was
venting directly out the back. I had to remove it completely to bend
back some of the edge of the hose to get it to fit better. There was a a
good handful of lint sitting at the bottom of the hose.

On 12/8/2016 3:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-08 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:21:01 -0500, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>>>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>>>
>>> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>>> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>>> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>>>
>>> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> And dryers remove lint.
>
> They also help to produce that lint by jostling the items together.
>
>
> Speaking of lint.... one of my jobs yesterday was to reconnect the vent
> hose to the dryer. It had somehow come part way off so the dryer was
> venting directly out the back. I had to remove it completely to bend
> back some of the edge of the hose to get it to fit better. There was a a
> good handful of lint sitting at the bottom of the hose.
>
When I moved into this house, I set up the laundry in the basement
rather than have it in a cupboard visible from the front door. The
original dryer exhaust pipe was about 10' long and packed solid with lint.
It is my intention in the next week or so to vacuum out the new pipe.
Graham