On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:50:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> > Bras are hung out on one those multiple arms with clips
> > thingies. In the wintertime they're still hung on this
> > contraption but then it is hung on the shower curtain rod.
>
> I pile a week's worth onto a regular coat hanger and hang
> the coat hanger more-or-less in front of a heat register.
> We run the furnace blower 24/7/365, so they dry pretty
> quickly.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
I used to clip mine on a coat hanger until I picked up that
contraption at the flea market a few years ago. If I didn't
it I'd still use a coat hanger.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:00:53 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-08 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:21:01 -0500, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>>>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>>>
>>> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>>> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>>> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>>>
>>> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> And dryers remove lint.
>
>They also help to produce that lint by jostling the items together.

The washer's back and forth motion simulating a scrub board does a lot
more "jostling"/chafing, dryer tumbling does little to abrade fabrics,
but it sucks off the lint produced by the washer. I do the laundry
here and every time I take clothes from the washer I can see all the
lint, especially apparent on darker fabrics.

>Speaking of lint.... one of my jobs yesterday was to reconnect the vent
>hose to the dryer. It had somehow come part way off so the dryer was
>venting directly out the back. I had to remove it completely to bend
>back some of the edge of the hose to get it to fit better. There was a
>good handful of lint sitting at the bottom of the hose.

There are kits for brushing out the inside of dryer ducts.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:26:02 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 12/8/2016 3:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-12-08 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:21:01 -0500, Nancy Young
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>>>>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>>>>
>>>> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>>>> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>>>> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>>>>
>>>> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>
>>> And dryers remove lint.
>>
>> They also help to produce that lint by jostling the items together.
>>
>>
>> Speaking of lint.... one of my jobs yesterday was to reconnect the vent
>> hose to the dryer. It had somehow come part way off so the dryer was
>> venting directly out the back. I had to remove it completely to bend
>> back some of the edge of the hose to get it to fit better. There was a a
>> good handful of lint sitting at the bottom of the hose.
>>
>When I moved into this house, I set up the laundry in the basement
>rather than have it in a cupboard visible from the front door. The
>original dryer exhaust pipe was about 10' long and packed solid with lint.
>It is my intention in the next week or so to vacuum out the new pipe.
>Graham

Clogged with lint is a great way to start a fire, also takes a lot
longer to dry clothes... I use this:
https://www.amazon.com/Gardus-RLE202...yer+lint+brush

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> Clogged with lint is a great way to start a fire, also takes a lot
> longer to dry clothes... I use this:
> https://www.amazon.com/Gardus-RLE202...yer+lint+brush

Do you keep one in your manbag for emergencies?

On 12/8/2016 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
> problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
> smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
> towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
> bit to reduce energy consumption.
>

We don't use fabric softener on towels. They are not as soft and they
absorb better. I also use a towel warmer this time of year too.

"itsjoannotjoann" wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>"itsjoannotjoann" wrote:
>>
>> > Bras are hung out on one those multiple arms with clips
>> > thingies. In the wintertime they're still hung on this
>> > contraption but then it is hung on the shower curtain rod.
>>
>> I pile a week's worth onto a regular coat hanger and hang
>> the coat hanger more-or-less in front of a heat register.
>> We run the furnace blower 24/7/365, so they dry pretty
>> quickly.
>>
>I used to clip mine on a coat hanger until I picked up that
>contraption at the flea market a few years ago. If I didn't
>it I'd still use a coat hanger.

Since I do all the laundry, ironically I hang bras to dry spanning the
two dresser drawer 'knobs' with the straps neatly arranged, with the
cups pointing out and well shaped.

In article >, Ed Pawlowski says...
>
> On 12/8/2016 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
> > problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
> > smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
> > towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
> > bit to reduce energy consumption.
> >
>
> We don't use fabric softener on towels. They are not as soft and they
> absorb better. I also use a towel warmer this time of year too.

People are becoming soft. I think eventually, the ants will win.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, Ed Pawlowski says...
>>
>> On 12/8/2016 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> > It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be
>> > a
>> > problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
>> > smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
>> > towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing
>> > my
>> > bit to reduce energy consumption.
>> >
>>
>> We don't use fabric softener on towels. They are not as soft and they
>> absorb better. I also use a towel warmer this time of year too.
>
> People are becoming soft. I think eventually, the ants will win.

I believe the cockroaches are supposed to outlive everything.

Cheri

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:48:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-08 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:16:17 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>>
>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>>
>
>It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
>problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
>smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
>towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
>bit to reduce energy consumption.

I'm with you. I use the dryer during winter when it is raining or too
cold to dry the washing, but those are rare days, most of the time it
is fine enough to line dry. I like rough towels too.

JB

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 13:16:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-08 12:51 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
>>> problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
>>> smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
>>> towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
>>> bit to reduce energy consumption.
>>
>> Everybody's different. I like the smell of dryer-dried clothes.
>> You iron, don't you?
>
>Goodness gracious no. I have on occasion had to iron dress pants or a
>shirt that have been hanging long enough to get weird creases, but
>shirts, underwear, sheets etc are all permapress.

I bought a new iron 7 years ago. It is still in the box. I did enough
ironing in my early years to last me a lifetime.

JB
<snip>

On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:42:07 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 05:08:43 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>In article >, Dave Smith says...
>>>
>>> On 2016-12-07 10:41 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> >> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
>>> >> are can't dry our laundry on the line?
>>> >
>>> > California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
>>> > square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
>>>
>>> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
>>> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
>>> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
>>> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
>>> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
>>> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
>>> postpone the washing for a day.
>>
>>We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer.
>
>LOL, the feminazis will love that comment

Feminazi is just a word to try to shut the disagreeing party up. I
thought you would have better insults than that!

Bruce must be a fudking idiot if he doesn't know if there is a dryer
in the house.

JB

<snip>

On 12/8/2016 12:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>>> the dryer
>>>>>
>>>>> ============
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>>
>>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>>
>>>> How about in US?
>>>
>>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>>> no sense.
>>
>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>> Janet US
>>
> We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
> clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
> outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
> I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.
>
> Jill
>
> =================
>
> Heh nor do I! That is when the dryer definitely gets used
>
>
>
Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.

I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
inconvenience.

Jill

In article >, Cheri says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, Ed Pawlowski says...
> >>
> >> On 12/8/2016 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> > It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be
> >> > a
> >> > problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
> >> > smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
> >> > towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing
> >> > my
> >> > bit to reduce energy consumption.
> >> >
> >>
> >> We don't use fabric softener on towels. They are not as soft and they
> >> absorb better. I also use a towel warmer this time of year too.
> >
> > People are becoming soft. I think eventually, the ants will win.
>
> I believe the cockroaches are supposed to outlive everything.

Yes, I guess they'll win of we nuke the whole planet.

In article >, JBurns says...
>
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:42:07 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 05:08:43 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >>>
> >>> > California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine
> >>> > per square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
> >>> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
> >>> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
> >>> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
> >>> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
> >>> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
> >>> postpone the washing for a day.
> >>
> >>We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer.
> >
> >LOL, the feminazis will love that comment
>
> Feminazi is just a word to try to shut the disagreeing party up. I
> thought you would have better insults than that!
>
> Bruce must be a fudking idiot if he doesn't know if there is a dryer
> in the house.

And that's your best insult? That's not very impressive.

In article >, jmcquown says...
>
> On 12/8/2016 12:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "jmcquown" wrote in message news > > On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>
> >>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
> >>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
> >>>> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
> >>>>> the dryer
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ============
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sheila? Do you?
> >>>>>
> >>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
> >>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
> >>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
> >>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
> >>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
> >>>>
> >>>> How about in US?
> >>>
> >>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
> >>> no sense.
> >>
> >> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
> >> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
> >> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
> >> Janet US
> >>
> > We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
> > clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
> > outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
> > I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.
> >
> > Jill
> >
> > =================
> >
> > Heh nor do I! That is when the dryer definitely gets used
> >
> >
> >
> Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
> clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
> the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
> I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
> and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> live.

You can't have a clothes line? If I were you, I'd move to the land of
the free.

jmcquown wrote:
>
>Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
>clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
>the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.

Did you check the circuit breaker?

>I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
>and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
>good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
>live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
>inconvenience.

I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
breaker.

On 12/8/2016 5:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-08 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:21:01 -0500, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pollen, dust, mold spores, bird droppings. Plus, I find that hung
>>>> clothes are stiff. I like the dryer much better.
>>>
>>> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>>> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>>> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>>>
>>> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.

>> And dryers remove lint.
>
> They also help to produce that lint by jostling the items together.
>
>
> Speaking of lint.... one of my jobs yesterday was to reconnect the vent
> hose to the dryer. It had somehow come part way off so the dryer was
> venting directly out the back. I had to remove it completely to bend
> back some of the edge of the hose to get it to fit better. There was a a
> good handful of lint sitting at the bottom of the hose.

That's why I have my dryer hose cleaned out once a year or so.
Most people can just do theirs for themselves, I have a weird
setup. That lint is flammable.

nancy

On 12/8/2016 2:50 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 9:21:15 AM UTC-6, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> I grew up with line dried laundry and I agree 100 percent.
>> Scratchy towels, stiff clothing. Just about everything
>> comes out nicer from the dryer.
>>
>> And don't get me started on frozen jeans.

> UGH, my mom hung out EVERYTHING even in the dead of winter
> and we had a dryer. LIke you said, stuff just froze on the
> line.

You had to plan laundry way in advance if you wanted to
wear clean jeans. They look forever to dry. I don't know
when my mother got a dryer but I wasn't around to see it.

> I hated/hate line dried towels thus those go in the
> dryer but I love sheets dried on the line and a lot easier
> to fold and put away than when they've come out of the dryer.
> But since it is too cold to be hanging out sheets now they
> go into my dryer which I'm pleased as punch to have.

I completely appreciate having laundry appliances.

> Bras are hung out on one those multiple arms with clips
> thingies. In the wintertime they're still hung on this
> contraption but then it is hung on the shower curtain rod.

I just hung mine from doorknobs.

> Here's the one I have but mine is plastic.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/SOLOOP-Stainl...+clothes+clips

It does look like it could be useful.

nancy

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
> >clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
> >the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
> Did you check the circuit breaker?
>
> >I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
> >and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> >good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> >live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
> >inconvenience.
>
> I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
> laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
> breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
> circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
> all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
> each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
> eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
> replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
> It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
> likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
> knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
> would never say I am correct.

When you're wrong 49 out of 50 times, people are likely to miss that
50th time.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 22:08:23 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/8/2016 12:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >> On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>>>> the dryer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>>>
>>>>> How about in US?
>>>>
>>>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>>>> no sense.
>>>
>>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
>> clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
>> outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
>> I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> =================
>>
>> Heh nor do I! That is when the dryer definitely gets used
>>
>>
>>
>Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
>clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
>the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
>I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
>and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
>good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
>live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
>inconvenience.
>
>Jill

did you check your breaker box?

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 8:02:29 PM UTC-7, Golden One wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:42:07 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 05:08:43 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article >, Dave Smith says...
> >>>
> >>> On 2016-12-07 10:41 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
> >>> >> are can't dry our laundry on the line?
> >>> >
> >>> > California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
> >>> > square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
> >>> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
> >>> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
> >>> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
> >>> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
> >>> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
> >>> postpone the washing for a day.
> >>
> >>We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer.
> >
> >LOL, the feminazis will love that comment
>
> Feminazi is just a word to try to shut the disagreeing party up. I
> thought you would have better insults than that!
>
> Bruce must be a fudking idiot if he doesn't know if there is a dryer
> in the house.
>
> JB
>
> <snip>

Bruce is an aristocrat...clothes dryers are far to plebeian for him to
worry his little mind about. Ahahahaha.

In article >, Roy
says...
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 8:02:29 PM UTC-7, Golden One wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:42:07 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 05:08:43 +1100, Bruce >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>In article >, Dave Smith says...
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The
> > >>> percentage
> > >>> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
> > >>> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
> > >>> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
> > >>> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
> > >>> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
> > >>> postpone the washing for a day.
> > >>
> > >>We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer.
> > >
> > >LOL, the feminazis will love that comment
> >
> > Feminazi is just a word to try to shut the disagreeing party up. I
> > thought you would have better insults than that!
> >
> > Bruce must be a fudking idiot if he doesn't know if there is a dryer
> > in the house.
> >
> > JB
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Bruce is an aristocrat...clothes dryers are far to plebeian for him to
> worry his little mind about. Ahahahaha.

We never use a dryer, so whether we have one or not is purely
theoretical. Just like you and a brain.

On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 12:47:20 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Ed Pawlowski says...
>>
>> On 12/8/2016 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> > It's very rare that I get bird droppings on our laundry. It used to be a
>> > problem when we had a bird feeder near the line. I like the feel and
>> > smell of air dried clothes. I prefer the rough feel of an air dried
>> > towel. That's why I go to the extra work to do it.... that and doing my
>> > bit to reduce energy consumption.
>> >
>>
>> We don't use fabric softener on towels. They are not as soft and they
>> absorb better. I also use a towel warmer this time of year too.
>
>People are becoming soft. I think eventually, the ants will win.

Seems to me the goal of humanity is to become one giant homogenous ant
colony, so I guess the ants will save us some time.

On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 11:02:33 +0800, JBurns >
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:42:07 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 05:08:43 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article >, Dave Smith says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-12-07 10:41 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> ?? Ontario is 2 1/2 times the size of California. Does that mean we can
>>>> >> are can't dry our laundry on the line?
>>>> >
>>>> > California has better weather so in terms of hours of sunshine per
>>>> > square metre/foot, California's probably bigger.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I have been in California and enjoyed the weather. The percentage
>>>> of the state's area that enjoys hot dry weather is definitely
>>>> significant, but that doesn't mean that I cannot hang my laundry to dry.
>>>> We do several loads per week. Granted, at this time of the year you
>>>> have to get the laundry out early in order for it to dry before the
>>>> shorter day ends and brings evening dampness. If it is raining we
>>>> postpone the washing for a day.
>>>
>>>We hang it out too. I'm not even sure if we have a dryer.
>>
>>LOL, the feminazis will love that comment
>
>Feminazi is just a word to try to shut the disagreeing party up. I
>thought you would have better insults than that!
>
>Bruce must be a fudking idiot if he doesn't know if there is a dryer
>in the house.
>
>JB
>
><snip>

Somebody is having their period.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:51:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> I like the dryer much better.

We have dryers for a reason. I hate hanging up laundry and taking it
back down. I iron as little as possible too. Clothing that needs to
be cleaned and ironed goes to the cleaner.


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On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:46:53 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:50:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> > Bras are hung out on one those multiple arms with clips
> > thingies. In the wintertime they're still hung on this
> > contraption but then it is hung on the shower curtain rod.
>
> I pile a week's worth onto a regular coat hanger and hang
> the coat hanger more-or-less in front of a heat register.
> We run the furnace blower 24/7/365, so they dry pretty
> quickly.
>
Bras go into the washer/dryer just like everything else.



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On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:38:20 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 12/6/2016 9:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 12/6/2016 8:54 PM, Janet wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't get the one who said there were no dryers - I had a washer and
> >>> dryer in 1967 prior to leaving the UK.
> >>
> >> Me neither; it's nonsense. Tumble dryers are commonplace in the home,
> >> even in rented accommodation. For tourists, hotels offer laundry
> >> services and there are high street businesses offering service washes.
> >>
> >> Janet UK
> >>
> >
> > People often make dumb assumptions. We rented a villa in Italy that had
> > a washer, but no dryer. Therefore dryers do not exist in Italy.
> > (We did take a basket of wet clothes to a laundromat in town)
>
> I've never been to Europe or England but I see those combo washer/dryer
> units all the time on the show 'House Hunters International'. Yes, even
> in rented flats. I always thought those combo units were a great idea.
> I don't know why they haven't caught on in the U.S.
>
People like to have two loads going at the same time wash one while
the other is drying. Of course that won't matter if you don't sort
your laundry.



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"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 12/8/2016 12:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>>> the dryer
>>>>>
>>>>> ============
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>>
>>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>>
>>>> How about in US?
>>>
>>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>>> no sense.
>>
>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>> Janet US
>>
> We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
> clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
> outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
> I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.
>
> Jill
>
> =================
>
> Heh nor do I! That is when the dryer definitely gets used
>
>
>
Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.

I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
inconvenience.

Jill

===================

Oh dear( I feel for you Hope the repair bloke doesn't take too
long Could you string a ling across your kitchen? I can remember in the
VERY old days some people did that. Anything really would be better than a
pile of wet washing going sour

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"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...

jmcquown wrote:
>
>Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
>clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
>the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.

Did you check the circuit breaker?

>I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
>and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
>good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
>live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
>inconvenience.

I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
breaker.

=================

I had to ask that was. We just have fuses which are simple to replace.

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In article >, Ophelia says...
>
> "Brooklyn1" muttered in message
> ...
>
> Did you check the circuit breaker?
>
> >I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
> >and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> >good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> >live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
> >inconvenience.
>
> I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
> laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
> breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
> circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
> all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
> each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
> eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
> replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
> It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
> likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
> knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
> would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
> breaker.
>
> =================
>
> I had to ask that was. We just have fuses which are simple to replace.

Maybe 'circuit breaker' is American for fuse.

"Bruce" wrote in message
T...

In article >, Ophelia says...
>
> "Brooklyn1" muttered in message
> ...
>
> Did you check the circuit breaker?
>
> >I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
> >and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> >good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> >live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
> >inconvenience.
>
> I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
> laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
> breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
> circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
> all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
> each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
> eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
> replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
> It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
> likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
> knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
> would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
> breaker.
>
> =================
>
> I had to ask that was. We just have fuses which are simple to replace.

Maybe 'circuit breaker' is American for fuse.

==================

Apparently not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_(electrical)

Our fuses are just very small things that fit into our plugs.



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In article >, Ophelia says...
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> T...
>
> In article >, Ophelia says...
> >
> > "Brooklyn1" muttered in message
> > ...
> >
> > Did you check the circuit breaker?
> >
> > >I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
> > >and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> > >good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> > >live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
> > >inconvenience.
> >
> > I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
> > laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
> > breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
> > circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
> > all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
> > each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
> > eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
> > replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
> > It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
> > likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
> > knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
> > would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
> > breaker.
> >
> > =================
> >
> > I had to ask that was. We just have fuses which are simple to replace.
>
> Maybe 'circuit breaker' is American for fuse.
>
> ==================
>
> Apparently not.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_(electrical)
>
> Our fuses are just very small things that fit into our plugs.

I think they do the same thing. Cut out when the voltage gets too high.
I know fuses from cars and 'circuit breakers' from the electrical box
against the outside wall of our house. Is that different for you?

On 12/9/2016 9:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> I had to ask that was. We just have fuses which are simple to replace.
>
I had my fuses replaced with circuit breakers - I didn't want to have to
fiddle around with fuse wire.

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 4:45:35 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-08 3:45 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Another factor is time. It takes seconds to toss a load of laundry
> > into the dryer, and much longer to pin things to a clothesline.
> > I remember my grandmother doing it. My mother couldn't be bothered,
> > and used her dryer pretty exclusively.
> >
>
> Nothing wrong with getting out and enjoying a bit of fresh air in the
> morning.

Funny you should mention "in the morning". I put a load of laundry in
the dryer at 5 am today. Even in the summer, I wouldn't be hanging
clothes at that hour. I was able to do two loads of laundry before
going to work.

My mother was a single working mother. She had no more time than I
do to fiddle about hanging laundry. Probably less, since I've got
a husband to share the load of chores.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 4:31:49 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" wrote in message
> ... > >
> >Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
> >clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
> >the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
> Did you check the circuit breaker?
>
> >I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
>
> jmcquown wrote:

> >and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> >good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> >live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
> >inconvenience.
>
> I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
> laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker. If it's the
> breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
> circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
> all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
> each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
> eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
> replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
> It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
> likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
> knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
> would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
> breaker.
>
> =================
>
> I had to ask that was. We just have fuses which are simple to replace.

Fuses are considered somewhat antiquated technology here, although many
older houses still have them. Most older houses were provided with
a 60-amp service. Many of them have been upgraded to 100 amps, with
an upgrade from fuses to circuit breakers. My house was upgraded a
second time to 200 amps.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:08:28 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:

> Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
> clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
> the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
> I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
> and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
> good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
> live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
> inconvenience.

I'd be at the laundromat instead of posting about it to Usenet. Looks
like it might be an 8-mile drive.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/8/2016 11:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
>> clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
>> the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
> Did you check the circuit breaker?
>
>> I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
>> and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
>> good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
>> live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
>> inconvenience.
>
> I'd think a neighborly neighbor would rescue your one load of
> laundry... however I'd bet it's the circuit breaker.

I checked the breaker. Do you think I'm that stupid? Everything else
works, the washer is on the same circuit and it works fine. The dryer
is 25 years old.

> If it's the breaker still have an electrician check it out, after so many years
> circuit breakers go bad. Once a year it's a good idea to "exercise"
> all the circuit breakers by flipping their switch a couple of times
> each, cleans the oxidation so their points make good contact. And
> eventually a breaker's points become burned and it needs to be
> replaced... especially with high amperage breakers like for a dryer.
> It's extremely rare that a dryer motor would suddenly die, much more
> likely a belt would wear/break. It's very likely the breaker but
> knowing how you look for every opportunity to rank on me I know you
> would never say I am correct. Odds are you never thought to check the
> breaker.
>
I'm not ranking on you. In this case you are NOT correct. The first
thing I checked was the circuit breakers. I flipped all the switches
from ON to OFF. The dryer is dead. It happens. Appliances do not last
forever. That's why I have a home warranty to cover replacing/repairing
them.

Jill

In article >, says...
>
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:53:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:47:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
> >>
> >
> >My wife was quite impressed with your green and pleasant land. She yearns to live there one day. That's the absolute truth.
>
> I hope you don't have any life insurance cover.

What on earth do you mean by that?

Janet UK

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 22:08:23 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/8/2016 12:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >> On 12/7/2016 9:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:28:24 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> "S Viemeister" wrote in message
>>>>> ... On 12/7/2016 2:32 PM,
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer to keep the clothing clean and pollen free. We alwys use
>>>>>> the dryer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't seem to have any problems with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheila? Do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>> The winds in Sutherland don't let any pollen or schmutz sit on the
>>>>> laundry (I have to use lots of clothes pegs to keep my sheets from
>>>>> flying off to Orkney), there aren't many cars and my drying green is
>>>>> a fair distance from the road. Very rarely a bird will drop a bomb on
>>>>> my laundry - the last time was about 6 years ago. ===
>>>>>
>>>>> How about in US?
>>>>
>>>> You need to understand how BIG the US is to realize that question makes
>>>> no sense.
>>>
>>> Oh, I think the people you are responding to have some understanding
>>> of how big the US is. It was a question inviting a conversation.
>>> Speak of why you would or wouldn't hang wash out in your area.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> We all know why I couldn't hang wash outside *now* but yes, I've had
>> clothes lines in the past. The only time I couldn't/wouldn't hang wash
>> outside was early spring when the pollen gets all over everything. Oh,
>> I didn't hang wash if it freezing outside, either.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> =================
>>
>> Heh nor do I! That is when the dryer definitely gets used
>>
>>
>>
>Quiite coincdentally my clothes dryer just broke. I put a load of wet
>clothes in it and pushed the Start button... nothing. I tried changing
>the settings, Start? Nope, no go. Grrrrr.
>
>I called my home warranty company and they will send a tech to repair
>and likely replace it. Meanwhile I have a bunch of wet clothes and no
>good way to dry them. I cannot have an outdoor clothes line where I
>live. I can hang some things in the bathroom but this is really an
>inconvenience.
>
>Jill

You should put up a fight to have outdoor lines if you wish - there
were subdivisions built here in the late 70s that had the ruling 'no
lines' and with rising power costs five or six years ago that was over
ruled and they can now have a line if they wish.

On 12/9/2016 2:47 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:38:20 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/6/2016 9:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 12/6/2016 8:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...k-life-UK.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get the one who said there were no dryers - I had a washer and
>>>>> dryer in 1967 prior to leaving the UK.
>>>>
>>>> Me neither; it's nonsense. Tumble dryers are commonplace in the home,
>>>> even in rented accommodation. For tourists, hotels offer laundry
>>>> services and there are high street businesses offering service washes.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>
>>> People often make dumb assumptions. We rented a villa in Italy that had
>>> a washer, but no dryer. Therefore dryers do not exist in Italy.
>>> (We did take a basket of wet clothes to a laundromat in town)
>>
>> I've never been to Europe or England but I see those combo washer/dryer
>> units all the time on the show 'House Hunters International'. Yes, even
>> in rented flats. I always thought those combo units were a great idea.
>> I don't know why they haven't caught on in the U.S.
>>
> People like to have two loads going at the same time wash one while
> the other is drying. Of course that won't matter if you don't sort
> your laundry.
>
>
>
I guess that makes sense. I tend to do laundry in small loads and don't
worry much about sorting. I don't iron my clothes, either.

Jill