On 12/11/2016 11:40 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 12/11/2016 12:24 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> ? So you're saying they're naturally dumb enough to eat
>>> something that's bad for them.
>>>
>>> The fastest flip flop in history.
>>
>> LOL! Ok...you win there.
>
>> I've never had any animal - dog, cat or ferret eat any forbidden
>> food/plant here. They seem to know.
>
> Dogs will eat chocolate without a question. A friend of
> mine told me her parents' dog died after it ate a whole
> bowl of kisses. She said At least it died happy.
>
> She really had no idea dogs weren't supposed to eat
> chocolate. Seems the dog didn't, either.

Heh, seems to me most 'domesticated' dogs eat anything 'human' they can
whether it's chocolate or other foods toxic to dogs. That's been my
experience with the many dogs my family, relatives and friends have had.
It's truly amazing what some pets will eat if given the chance(s).

Some years ago, one of my folks' large Australian shepherd dogs ate two
whole pounds of block chocolate all at once! Yes, my folks were
negligent when they left the chocolate exposed at the back of the
kitchen counter top, especially since said canine was already known to
be rather sneaky, was always quite food conscious, and was guilty of
snarfing other things off the counter, e.g., a stick of room-temp butter.

Another time when I was 'dogsitting', this same critter followed me into
the basement of their home and was to exposed dry, bright blue, vermin
poison pellets scattered all about underneath shelving and other
furniture. I was unsure if she'd eaten any of the poison, but knowing
the dog, I could not doubt that she had not. So, immediately off to the
vet this canine went for treatment.

Both times, I'm sure the vet bill was considerably expensive and more!
Sometimes a house should be pet-proofed, and one would think my folks
had learned that already (sigh). There's no doubt this lovely puppy-dog
was one expensive pet for my folks <g>, to say the least. Thankfully,
she survived both episodes above and lived a long, happy life.

Sky

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On 2016-12-11 12:14 PM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 12:01 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> LOL! Animals aren't stupid...they know what's good or not.
>>
>> So you're saying dogs won't eat chocolate or onions or grapes?
>>
>> nancy
>
> Only the dumbass dogs that YOU haven't trained properly.
>

My gawd. It looks like you are arguing with yourself. First you say that
animals aren't stupid and know what id good for them, and they you turn
around and say that they will eat those bad things because they haven't
been trained properly.

In article >, says...
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
> >
> > On 12/11/2016 12:01 PM, Gary wrote:
> >
> > > LOL! Animals aren't stupid...they know what's good or not.

Rubbish. Animals will eat anything tasty because they have no clue if
it will kill them. Ask any farmer or horse owner, about the dangers of
yew and rhododendron; or ragwort.

> > So you're saying dogs won't eat chocolate or onions or grapes?
> >
> > nancy
>
> Only the dumbass dogs that YOU haven't trained properly.

Even from your own litany of ignorance that's one of the dumbest
things you've ever posted , Gary.

According to you, "Animals aren't stupid...they know what's good or
not".. remember? If that was the case dogs would never eat anything
toxic or die of poisoning. The fact is they love sweet stuff, even
chocolate, mincepies, christmas cake and pudding, all of which can kill
them.

Janet UK

On 12/11/2016 5:22 PM, Sky wrote:
> On 12/11/2016 11:40 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> She really had no idea dogs weren't supposed to eat
>> chocolate. Seems the dog didn't, either.
>
> Heh, seems to me most 'domesticated' dogs eat anything 'human' they can
> whether it's chocolate or other foods toxic to dogs. That's been my
> experience with the many dogs my family, relatives and friends have had.
> It's truly amazing what some pets will eat if given the chance(s).

I like to watch some of those veterinarian shows. The things they
pull out of dog insides is mind boggling.

> Some years ago, one of my folks' large Australian shepherd dogs ate two
> whole pounds of block chocolate all at once! Yes, my folks were
> negligent when they left the chocolate exposed at the back of the
> kitchen counter top, especially since said canine was already known to
> be rather sneaky, was always quite food conscious, and was guilty of
> snarfing other things off the counter, e.g., a stick of room-temp butter.

Yikes, I'd be in trouble. I have never had a pet that would forage
food like that.

Leaving Cocoa's recent coffee cake attack out of it. heh

> Another time when I was 'dogsitting', this same critter followed me into
> the basement of their home and was to exposed dry, bright blue, vermin
> poison pellets scattered all about underneath shelving and other
> furniture. I was unsure if she'd eaten any of the poison, but knowing
> the dog, I could not doubt that she had not. So, immediately off to the
> vet this canine went for treatment.

That would have scared the hell out of me.

> Both times, I'm sure the vet bill was considerably expensive and more!
> Sometimes a house should be pet-proofed, and one would think my folks
> had learned that already (sigh). There's no doubt this lovely puppy-dog
> was one expensive pet for my folks <g>, to say the least. Thankfully,
> she survived both episodes above and lived a long, happy life.

That's good to hear, even though the dog seemed to be trying to
commit dogicide.

nancy

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Gary" wrote in message ...
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> jmcquown wrote:
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>> I remember. Your poor dog was obviously mistreated. Thank you for
>> taking her in.
>
> Wondering now if Ophy has any dogmeat recipes lined up.
>
> =================
>
> No I don't Any tiny thing can upset her and she gets diarrheal! For
> her daily diet now I cook chicken and rice and I give her vitamins etc to
> keep her energy up.
>
> She isn't the easiest dog I've had ...

I make my dogs food too. Different meat and veggies with an occasional bit
of rice added, package them up and freeze them in individual servings. I
don't go to that much trouble for myself, but she is very healthy and happy.
;-)

Cheri

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You too huh <g> When she is ok I add some veg to the chicken and rice but
as she as she gets upset .. as she will, it's back to the plain chicken and
rice.



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>> On 12/11/2016 12:01 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> LOL! Animals aren't stupid...they know what's good or not.
>>
>> So you're saying dogs won't eat chocolate or onions or grapes?
>>
>> nancy
>
> We had a dog that loved grapes and ate them off the vine during season, he
> had a preference for Tokays, never hurt him at all. In the old days, we
> shared chocolate candy etc. with our various dogs and no problem for them
> at
> all either. The point is though, if there's a chance with what's known
> these
> days, no reason to let them have that stuff.
>
> Cheri
>
> ================
>
> I know what you mean. In the old days, our dogs had bones, cooked or
> not... not now ...
>
> I don't know whether to give them to her or not. Now, after reading all
> the warnings, I am afraid to allow her to have them
>
> How about you??

I don't give this dog bones but occasionally add some bone powder to her
food. My other dog did have a beef bone now and then, but she would usually
bury it instead of eating it. She did love turkey necks.

Cheri

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I haven't come across bone powder. I will have a look around.



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
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> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>> On 12/11/2016 12:01 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> LOL! Animals aren't stupid...they know what's good or not.
>>
>> So you're saying dogs won't eat chocolate or onions or grapes?
>>
>> nancy
>
> We had a dog that loved grapes and ate them off the vine during season, he
> had a preference for Tokays, never hurt him at all. In the old days, we
> shared chocolate candy etc. with our various dogs and no problem for them
> at
> all either. The point is though, if there's a chance with what's known
> these
> days, no reason to let them have that stuff.
>
> Cheri
>
> ================
>
> I know what you mean. In the old days, our dogs had bones, cooked or
> not... not now ...
>
> I don't know whether to give them to her or not. Now, after reading all
> the warnings, I am afraid to allow her to have them
>
> How about you??

I don't give this dog bones but occasionally add some bone powder to her
food. My other dog did have a beef bone now and then, but she would usually
bury it instead of eating it. She did love turkey necks.

Cheri

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I haven't come across bone powder. I will have a look around.

===

Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ... including
calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?



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On 12/12/2016 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
> Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ...
> including calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?
>
It should. I believe the benefit of bones/bone powder is calcium.

Jill

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On 12/12/2016 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
> Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ...
> including calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?
>
It should. I believe the benefit of bones/bone powder is calcium.

Jill

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Yes, that was what I thought.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
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>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>>> On 12/11/2016 12:01 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> LOL! Animals aren't stupid...they know what's good or not.
>>>
>>> So you're saying dogs won't eat chocolate or onions or grapes?
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> We had a dog that loved grapes and ate them off the vine during season,
>> he
>> had a preference for Tokays, never hurt him at all. In the old days, we
>> shared chocolate candy etc. with our various dogs and no problem for them
>> at
>> all either. The point is though, if there's a chance with what's known
>> these
>> days, no reason to let them have that stuff.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ================
>>
>> I know what you mean. In the old days, our dogs had bones, cooked or
>> not... not now ...
>>
>> I don't know whether to give them to her or not. Now, after reading all
>> the warnings, I am afraid to allow her to have them
>>
>> How about you??
>
> I don't give this dog bones but occasionally add some bone powder to her
> food. My other dog did have a beef bone now and then, but she would
> usually
> bury it instead of eating it. She did love turkey necks.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==================
>
> I haven't come across bone powder. I will have a look around.

Most pet stores carry it here.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/12/2016 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>> Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ...
>> including calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?
>>
> It should. I believe the benefit of bones/bone powder is calcium.
>
> Jill
>
> ====================
>
> Yes, that was what I thought.

That's the main purpose, so since your dog has vitamins and such, shouldn't
need it.

Cheri

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> "jmcquown" wrote in message news > On 12/12/2016 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>> Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ...
>> including calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?
>>
> It should. I believe the benefit of bones/bone powder is calcium.
>
> Jill
>
> ====================
>
> Yes, that was what I thought.

That's the main purpose, so since your dog has vitamins and such, shouldn't
need it.

Cheri

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Thanks, Cheri. I am keen that she gets a good range of vitamins and
supplements because the food she can eat is so limited.

She is being looked after also by a Dermatologist. She is having a course
of Immunotherapy injections atm so fingers crossed, they will help. She
suffers terribly with itching. She bites herself and badly damages her skin.
When she starts to bite, I usually stop her and scratch the site. It causes
less damage. As if she hasn't had enough problems in her life



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> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
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>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >> On 12/12/2016 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>>> Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ...
>>> including calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?
>>>
>> It should. I believe the benefit of bones/bone powder is calcium.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> ====================
>>
>> Yes, that was what I thought.
>
> That's the main purpose, so since your dog has vitamins and such,
> shouldn't
> need it.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===================
>
> Thanks, Cheri. I am keen that she gets a good range of vitamins and
> supplements because the food she can eat is so limited.
>
> She is being looked after also by a Dermatologist. She is having a course
> of Immunotherapy injections atm so fingers crossed, they will help. She
> suffers terribly with itching. She bites herself and badly damages her
> skin. When she starts to bite, I usually stop her and scratch the site.
> It causes less damage. As if she hasn't had enough problems in her life

My dog went through an allergy attack this past summer with horrible
itching, the vet gave her a prednisone shot, some antibiotics, and I rubber
her down with Witch Hazel a couple of times a day which seemed to relieve
the itching a bit. Sorry about her, and hope the injections help.

Cheri

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I haven't come across bone powder. I will have a look around.

A rawhide chewy fake bone from a pet store is popular with dogs. Last's
a long time too.

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>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >> On 12/12/2016 9:54 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>>> Actually the vitamins I give her have a variety of additions ...
>>> including calcium so I guess that will cover it, yes?
>>>
>> It should. I believe the benefit of bones/bone powder is calcium.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> ====================
>>
>> Yes, that was what I thought.
>
> That's the main purpose, so since your dog has vitamins and such,
> shouldn't
> need it.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===================
>
> Thanks, Cheri. I am keen that she gets a good range of vitamins and
> supplements because the food she can eat is so limited.
>
> She is being looked after also by a Dermatologist. She is having a course
> of Immunotherapy injections atm so fingers crossed, they will help. She
> suffers terribly with itching. She bites herself and badly damages her
> skin. When she starts to bite, I usually stop her and scratch the site. It
> causes less damage. As if she hasn't had enough problems in her life

My dog went through an allergy attack this past summer with horrible
itching, the vet gave her a prednisone shot, some antibiotics, and I rubber
her down with Witch Hazel a couple of times a day which seemed to relieve
the itching a bit. Sorry about her, and hope the injections help.

Cheri

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I hope so too. I hope your wee girl is ok now?


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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I haven't come across bone powder. I will have a look around.

A rawhide chewy fake bone from a pet store is popular with dogs. Last's
a long time too.

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Thanks, Gary. She won't chew anything like that Bones? No! Chews? No!
She just looks at me when if offer stuff like that ...

She eats what I cook for her... but any treats from our plates .. Oh yes!!!


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> My dog went through an allergy attack this past summer with horrible
> itching, the vet gave her a prednisone shot, some antibiotics, and I
> rubber
> her down with Witch Hazel a couple of times a day which seemed to relieve
> the itching a bit. Sorry about her, and hope the injections help.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===============================
>
> I hope so too. I hope your wee girl is ok now?

Yes, she is fine.

Cheri